[NTG-context] page numbering question

2008-04-09 Thread David C. Walden
Hi,

I have been searching contextgarden.net and the
manuals at the Pragma website for more than an hour
now, and I have yet to find a way to have ConTeXt
decide in two-sided mode that the last page
of a book chapter is a even numbered page without
anything on it and therefore will also not have
a page number.  I probably can manually effect
this by carefully inserting \setuppagenumber
commands which start and stop the state, but
that's not a very general solution.  Will
someone please point me to appropriate documentation
or an example.

Thanks, Dave


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Re: [NTG-context] page numbering question

2008-04-09 Thread Jörg Hagmann
\definepagebreak[chapter][yes,footer,right]

(or:  \definepagebreak[chapter][yes,header,right])

Jörg

David C. Walden wrote:
 Hi,

 I have been searching contextgarden.net and the
 manuals at the Pragma website for more than an hour
 now, and I have yet to find a way to have ConTeXt
 decide in two-sided mode that the last page
 of a book chapter is a even numbered page without
 anything on it and therefore will also not have
 a page number.  I probably can manually effect
 this by carefully inserting \setuppagenumber
 commands which start and stop the state, but
 that's not a very general solution.  Will
 someone please point me to appropriate documentation
 or an example.

 Thanks, Dave


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Re: [NTG-context] page numbering question

2008-04-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:29 PM, David C. Walden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have been searching contextgarden.net and the
 manuals at the Pragma website for more than an hour
 now, and I have yet to find a way to have ConTeXt
 decide in two-sided mode that the last page
 of a book chapter is a even numbered page without
 anything on it and therefore will also not have
 a page number.  I probably can manually effect
 this by carefully inserting \setuppagenumber
 commands which start and stop the state, but
 that's not a very general solution.  Will
 someone please point me to appropriate documentation
 or an example.

You could insert a empty page with \page[empty] or
\startstandardmakeup ... \stopsatndardmakeup.

Yould integrate this in the normal document structure.

\startcomponent test

\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

\startfrontmatter

\startstandardmakeup
Title Page
\stopstandardmakeup

\stopfrontmatter

\startbodymatter

.. document ...

\stopbodymatter

\startbackmatter

\startstandardmakeup
\stopstandardmakeup

\stopbackmatter

\stopcomponent

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] page numbering question

2008-04-09 Thread Aditya Mahajan
Hi David,

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, David C. Walden wrote:

 Hi,

 I have been searching contextgarden.net and the
 manuals at the Pragma website for more than an hour
 now, and I have yet to find a way to have ConTeXt
 decide in two-sided mode that the last page
 of a book chapter is a even numbered page without
 anything on it and therefore will also not have
 a page number.

I am not sure what you want. Do you want the last page of chapters to be 
numbered or do you want them to be completely empty?

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] page numbering question

2008-04-09 Thread David C. Walden

I am not sure what you want. Do you want the last page of chapters to be
numbered or do you want them to be completely empty?

I want even numbered last pages of chapters which have no text
or images on them to be completely empty.

I tried various versions of the code for Truly empty page
breaks at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles that
Jörg's message about \definepagebreak led me to, and I
tried various versions of the additional discussion
about Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?
from November 2003 in the NTG-context archives.  I couldn't
make any of that work within the last half hour or so.
Thus, I have now changed my macro which begins chapters
so it turns off page numbering before the \chapter call
and turns page numbering back on after some text has
been place on the first page of the chapter and that
now does what I want.  So, that's kind of a brute
force approach to getting these completely blank
pages automatically.  Thanks everyone for your
suggestions.   -Dave


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Re: [NTG-context] page numbering question

2008-04-09 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, David C. Walden wrote:




I am not sure what you want. Do you want the last page of chapters to be
numbered or do you want them to be completely empty?


I want even numbered last pages of chapters which have no text
or images on them to be completely empty.

I tried various versions of the code for Truly empty page
breaks at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles that
Jörg's message about \definepagebreak led me to, and I
tried various versions of the additional discussion


Does this do what you want (at least in this test case)

 \definepagebreak
[mychapterpagebreak]
 [yes,header,footer,right]

 \setuphead
   [chapter]
   [page=mychapterpagebreak]


 \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided,location={header,margin}]
 \setupheadertexts[{My special headertext}]
 \setupfootertexts[This is a text in the footer]

 \starttext
 \chapter {testA} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
 \chapter {testB} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
 \chapter {testC} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
 \stoptext

Notice that the pages at the end of the chapters are empty.



about Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?
from November 2003 in the NTG-context archives.  I couldn't
make any of that work within the last half hour or so.
Thus, I have now changed my macro which begins chapters
so it turns off page numbering before the \chapter call
and turns page numbering back on after some text has
been place on the first page of the chapter and that
now does what I want.  So, that's kind of a brute
force approach to getting these completely blank
pages automatically.  Thanks everyone for your
suggestions.   -Dave
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Re: [NTG-context] page numbering question

2008-04-09 Thread David C. Walden

Does this do what you want (at least in this test case)

  \definepagebreak
 [mychapterpagebreak]
  [yes,header,footer,right]

  \setuphead
[chapter]
[page=mychapterpagebreak]


  \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided,location={header,margin}]
  \setupheadertexts[{My special headertext}]
  \setupfootertexts[This is a text in the footer]

  \starttext
  \chapter {testA} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
  \chapter {testB} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
  \chapter {testC} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
  \stoptext


I thought I tried that on my book and it didn't work.
My actual situation is more complicated with declarations
of front matter, depositing of \completecontent, etc.
However, I have now done it with the test case expanded
to mimic my real situation and it does seem to work.
I'll try it in my real file (again?). 


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