Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts

2006-01-21 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2006-01-20 um 21:29 schrieb VnPenguin:

The Gentium typescript is already in the typescripts.zip for a long
time.



With curiosity, does your typescripts for Gentium support T5  
encoding ? :)

We use Gentium ok for Vietnamese utf-8 here (Openoffice, Abiword,)
and it will be nice if you could provide vietnamese support ... :)


My type scripts always use \defaultencoding - that's not always the  
best,

but mostly... (One could use a list of appropriate encodings instead.)

I don't yet provide support files for t5 encoding, only ex, texnansi  
and qx.
But it would be no problem to make them for Gentium (and other fonts  
that

contain the glyphs).

But I must think about a better structure of my fonts list before...
(http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-4)


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[NTG-context] palatino fonts

2006-01-20 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi,

In a previous post, sjoerd mentioned fonts from the tower of babel 
project (russia).


http://newstar.rinet.ru/downl.php?lan=en#dict

There you can also download fonts, like some palatino and a cjk font. To 
me it looks quite illegal: the palatino variant has indeed over 2500 
glyphs but also contains copyright notices (heidelberg/linotype as well 
as microsoft).  When fonts lack glyphs one normally may make companions, 
but that;s not the case here: same name, probably same glyphs as in the 
original. i wonder why they were not yet taken off line. Stealing fonts 
happens, but here they didn't even bother to disguise the original name 
and author. Ok, I may be wrong and it may be a donation to the project, 
but even then it should be mentioned in the copyryright. (Somehow I'm 
pretty sure that the designer of the Palatino (Hermann Zapf) is not 
aware or this rip-off.) LInotype now ships the Palatino Nova, but that 
does not mean that the old one is obsolete and free.


Technically you can configure the context unicode handler to take chars 
from multiple fonts, so my advise is to use another font or a 
combination of fonts. Maybe it's worth investigating which free fonts 
contain the glyphs you need.


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts

2006-01-20 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2006-01-20 um 10:23 schrieb Hans Hagen:

Technically you can configure the context unicode handler to take  
chars from multiple fonts, so my advise is to use another font or a  
combination of fonts. Maybe it's worth investigating which free  
fonts contain the glyphs you need.


Of course this one is illegal, but I can understand their intention  
to collect all the glyphs in one font (they don't normally use TeX, I  
guess).


I know no font that contains every kind of Latin/Greek based glyph  
(as this does); Gentium is aiming that target, but it lacks cyrillic  
at the moment (and it doesn't look like it would be further  
developed, even if they released the sources some months ago). And  
there isn't a bold variant either.

http://scripts.sil.org/Gentium
Other projects:
- Linux Libertine is just ugly (0 is only a circle!?)
http://linuxlibertine.sourceforge.net/
- Junicode is interesting, but also lacks Cyrillic
http://www.engl.virginia.edu/OE/junicode/junicode.html
- more?

And as far as I can see, the Babel folks even had to make up some  
glyphs for their project.
Sure, it would be far better if they had contributed to one of the  
above projects (or perhaps one of the GUST projects or just use TeX)  
instead stealing a commercial font.


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Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts

2006-01-20 Thread Hans Hagen

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:



Sure, it would be far better if they had contributed to one of the  
above projects (or perhaps one of the GUST projects or just use TeX)  
instead stealing a commercial font.


indeed, they could have made a companion font to the urw paladio 

Hans 


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Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts

2006-01-20 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz


On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Gentium is aiming that target, but it lacks cyrillic at the moment  
(and it doesn't look like it would be further developed, even if  
they released the sources some months ago).


What makes you say that? I heard that Victor Gaultney will release a  
new version soonish, and that it will have bold and bold italic. And  
the status part of the Gentium website looks like they are actively  
developing the font.


Best

Thomas

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Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts

2006-01-20 Thread Wolfgang Zillig

Hello all,

I just had a look the the Gentium fonts and I like them. Did anybody 
start to make them available in Context? And does anybody know if there 
will be a math font set available?


Kind regards

Wolfgang




Thomas A. Schmitz schrieb:


On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Gentium is aiming that target, but it lacks cyrillic at the moment 
(and it doesn't look like it would be further developed, even if they 
released the sources some months ago).


What makes you say that? I heard that Victor Gaultney will release a 
new version soonish, and that it will have bold and bold italic. And 
the status part of the Gentium website looks like they are actively 
developing the font.


Best

Thomas

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Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts

2006-01-20 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

I can send you typescript, map, and tfms off-list if you want.

Thomas

On Jan 20, 2006, at 3:02 PM, Wolfgang Zillig wrote:

I just had a look the the Gentium fonts and I like them. Did  
anybody start to make them available in Context?


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Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts

2006-01-20 Thread Steve Peter



indeed, they could have made a companion font to the urw paladio Hans


Then it would be a hans serif! 
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Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts

2006-01-20 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2006-01-20 um 16:39 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:


I can send you typescript, map, and tfms off-list if you want.


What about putting them to the modules section of contextgarden or to
Hraban's server (the first place where someone would search for
typescripts :)


The Gentium typescript is already in the typescripts.zip for a long  
time.
Since I read the I'm allowed to re-distribute the font, I'll prepare  
a package soon,

but I should rework my fonts page (or better the whole site)...


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Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts

2006-01-20 Thread VnPenguin
On 1/20/06, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Gentium typescript is already in the typescripts.zip for a long
 time.
 Since I read the I'm allowed to re-distribute the font, I'll prepare
 a package soon,
 but I should rework my fonts page (or better the whole site)...


With curiosity, does your typescripts for Gentium support T5 encoding ? :)
We use Gentium ok for Vietnamese utf-8 here (Openoffice, Abiword,)
and it will be nice if you could provide vietnamese support ... :)

Thank you,

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