Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Alan Stone wrote: > Jonathan Kew's response... > > --- > You can't use \pdfminorversion in XeTeX, that's a pdfTeX-specific > command. I think you need to pass the -V command-line option to > xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt > scripts, but don't know any details), or else set it in the > dvipdfmx.cfg configuration file. AFAIK, the usual default is 4, but > you can set it higher if you need to embed other PDFs that use a > higher version. > > JK > --- > > >you need to pass the -V command-line option to > >xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt > >scripts, but don't know any details), > > Somebody knows the details ? On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Hans Hagen wrote > maybe it makes sense to support the \pdfminotversion primitive in xetex; > after all, its' determined by what trickery happens in the macro package At the moment the only reasonable answer is to edit tex.rb (every time when you update ConTeXt) I'm affraid. Hans doesn't provide any command line opton to change that, and apparently Jonathan didn't provide any primitive to change that either. You could create or edit a configuration file for dvipdfmx, but I'm affraid that passing an option to xdvipdfmx (which is done by default in ConTeXt already) would overwrite that setting anyway. You have two options if you really really need that: 1.) bribe Hans for command-line option and volunteer to write man pages for TeX Live (for ConTeXt they are still missing) 2.) bribe Jonathan to add a primitive (but have a good excuse for it :) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
Alan Stone wrote: > Jonathan Kew's response... > > --- > You can't use \pdfminorversion in XeTeX, that's a pdfTeX-specific > command. I think you need to pass the -V command-line option to > xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt > scripts, but don't know any details), or else set it in the > dvipdfmx.cfg configuration file. AFAIK, the usual default is 4, but > you can set it higher if you need to embed other PDFs that use a > higher version. maybe it makes sense to support the \pdfminotversion primitive in xetex; after all, its' determined by what trickery happens in the macro package Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
Jonathan Kew's response... --- You can't use \pdfminorversion in XeTeX, that's a pdfTeX-specific command. I think you need to pass the -V command-line option to xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt scripts, but don't know any details), or else set it in the dvipdfmx.cfg configuration file. AFAIK, the usual default is 4, but you can set it higher if you need to embed other PDFs that use a higher version. JK --- >you need to pass the -V command-line option to >xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt >scripts, but don't know any details), Somebody knows the details ? Alan At Saturday 28/06/2008 13:45, you wrote: >On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Alan Stone ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep Hans, that one. Ok I won't bother about it any longer. > > > > Any clues regarding the other issues, i.e. > > > > (1) the scrambled PDF headers ? > > > > (2) the inability to lower the \pdfminorversion setting ? > >For XeTeX it's set in tex.rb: > @@runoptions['xetex'] = ['--8bit','-output-driver="xdvipdfmx >-E -d 4 -V 5"'] >you can modify that one, but it will be replaced next time when you >update ConTeXt. > >Can you please ask on the XeTeX mailing list if there is some command >to specify PDF version with a command? Then, "-V 5" could go out of >tex.rb into the format. But I'm not sure if that functionality has >already been implemented (though it should probably be trivial to do). > >Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
Alan Stone wrote: > Ok Hans. Thanks for taking it into consideration. Take your time do to > whatever you intended to do first. It'll be worthwhile waiting for > sure. > > The more I dig into ConTeXt the more I like it ( compared to LaTeX ) - > although the font handling is quite a tough nut to crack. XeTeX makes > it a bit more comprehensible, though I don't have a clue what I'm > doing. I just try different things and keep what works. the context fonts system is geared to 'users combining fonts of different nature' and 'multiple such sets in parallel in one document' which is what happens a lot over here in principle font support can be made very simple: - add 500 extra files that we call a style - define a combination of fonts in such a file - expect users to know what file to load to get what they want (my guess is that latex is doing that) however, the downside would be ... - many, many useless files - inconsistent combinations (you really need to scale relatively) - still an additional system to defining your own it's a bit the same with setting up a page .. it takes one command (setuplayout) and putting that in a style would add a file and eventually users would use that same comman dto modify their page anyway Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
Ok Hans. Thanks for taking it into consideration. Take your time do to whatever you intended to do first. It'll be worthwhile waiting for sure. The more I dig into ConTeXt the more I like it ( compared to LaTeX ) - although the font handling is quite a tough nut to crack. XeTeX makes it a bit more comprehensible, though I don't have a clue what I'm doing. I just try different things and keep what works. Thanks for all that you do. Have a great weekend, Alan On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Stone wrote: >> Yep Hans, that one. Ok I won't bother about it any longer. >> >> Any clues regarding the other issues, i.e. >> >> (1) the scrambled PDF headers ? >> >> (2) the inability to lower the \pdfminorversion setting ? >> >> using >> >> - ConTeXt ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal) >> - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6) > > in pdf traditionally there was only pdf doc encoding; this is supported > by default > > when unicode encoding was added to the spec, i started supporting it too > and given that one enables it, traditional tex should work out ok (for > instance chinese bookmark were possible) > > i've now enabled it for luatex (context mkiv) and when that works ou ok > i'll see if i can support it for xet ex too (the problem is that i need > to rework some code in the spec drivers and that was not on my current > agenda) > > (it means that i need to replace defaults for pdftex/xetex/luatex and > since luatex is experimental anyway, let's start there) > > Hans ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
Alan Stone wrote: > Yep Hans, that one. Ok I won't bother about it any longer. > > Any clues regarding the other issues, i.e. > > (1) the scrambled PDF headers ? > > (2) the inability to lower the \pdfminorversion setting ? > > using > > - ConTeXt ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal) > - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6) in pdf traditionally there was only pdf doc encoding; this is supported by default when unicode encoding was added to the spec, i started supporting it too and given that one enables it, traditional tex should work out ok (for instance chinese bookmark were possible) i've now enabled it for luatex (context mkiv) and when that works ou ok i'll see if i can support it for xet ex too (the problem is that i need to rework some code in the spec drivers and that was not on my current agenda) (it means that i need to replace defaults for pdftex/xetex/luatex and since luatex is experimental anyway, let's start there) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
Yep Hans, that one. Ok I won't bother about it any longer. Any clues regarding the other issues, i.e. (1) the scrambled PDF headers ? (2) the inability to lower the \pdfminorversion setting ? using - ConTeXt ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal) - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6) Best, Alan On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Stone wrote: >> FYI, log file in attachment. There's a ( for me obscure ) warning message... > > you mean ... > > [1.1] > ** WARNING ** Could not open config file "dvipdfmx.cfg". > stdin -> minifr.pdf > [1] > 5366 bytes written > > probably harmless > > Hans ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
Alan Stone wrote: > FYI, log file in attachment. There's a ( for me obscure ) warning message... you mean ... [1.1] ** WARNING ** Could not open config file "dvipdfmx.cfg". stdin -> minifr.pdf [1] 5366 bytes written probably harmless Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
FYI, log file in attachment. There's a ( for me obscure ) warning message... Have a good weekend everybody, Alan minifr.log Description: Binary data ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
Thanks Khaled.
In the meantime found
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDF_Bookmarks_and_Headers#PDF_Headers
so...
--- begin code ---
\mainlanguage[fr]
\setupinteraction[
state=start,
title={ÀÂÆ ÇÉÈÊË ÎÏÔŒ ÙÜŸ},
subtitle={àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ},
author={àâæ ÀÂÆ},
keyword={àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ}]
\starttext
À Â Æ Ç É È Ê Ë Î Ï Ô Œ Ù Ü Ÿ
à â æ ç é è ê ë î ï ô œ ù û ü ÿ
\stoptext
--- end code ---
Still scramled pdf headers.
Looking for an enlightened and enlightening soul...
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
I'm getting a bunch of ��ï symbols.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 04:22:14PM +0200, Alan Stone wrote:
> Re (1)
>
> Would somebody please de so kind to compile this minimal example
> with XeTeX and inform me what you see in the pdf's document
> properties for: title, subject, author and keywords ?
>
> The good looking characters or the messed up ones ?
>
> --- begin code ---
>
> \mainlanguage[fr]
>
> \setupinteraction[
> title=Ԍ,
> subtitle= ,
> author= ,
> keyword= ]
>
> \starttext
>
>
>
>
>
> \stoptext
>
> --- end code ---
>
>
> Thanks on beforehand,
> Alan
>
>
> 2008/6/27 Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi,
>
> - ConTeXt ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
> - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)
>
> When using
>
> (1) \setupinteraction[state=start,
> title={ },
> subtitle={ },
> author={ },
> keyword={ }]
>
> the accented characters get al scrambled up in the pdf
> document properties fields while in the document itself
> all is ok.
>
> Qu passa ?
>
>
> (2) \pdfminorversion=5 (or whatever) gives
>
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> l.31 \pdfminorversion
> =5
> ?
> ! Emergency stop.
> l.31 \pdfminorversion
> =5
>
> What's the alternative ?
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
Re (1)
Would somebody please de so kind to compile this minimal example
with XeTeX and inform me what you see in the pdf's document
properties for: title, subject, author and keywords ?
The good looking characters or the messed up ones ?
--- begin code ---
\mainlanguage[fr]
\setupinteraction[
title=ÀÂÆ ÇÉÈÊË ÎÏÔŒ ÙÜŸ,
subtitle=àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ,
author=àâæ ÀÂÆ,
keyword=àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ]
\starttext
À Â Æ Ç É È Ê Ë Î Ï Ô Œ Ù Ü Ÿ
à â æ ç é è ê ë î ï ô œ ù û ü ÿ
\stoptext
--- end code ---
Thanks on beforehand,
Alan
2008/6/27 Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> - ConTeXt ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
> - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)
>
> When using
>
> (1) \setupinteraction[state=start,
> title={éèçàù},
> subtitle={éèçàù},
> author={éèçàù},
> keyword={éèçàù}]
>
> the accented characters get al scrambled up in the pdf
> document properties fields while in the document itself
> all is ok.
>
> Qué passa ?
>
>
> (2) \pdfminorversion=5 (or whatever) gives
>
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> l.31 \pdfminorversion
> =5
> ?
> ! Emergency stop.
> l.31 \pdfminorversion
> =5
>
> What's the alternative ?
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
In addition to question (1)...
Compiling
\setupinteraction[state=start,
title=éèçàù,
subtitle=éèçàù,
author=éèçàù,
keyword=éèçàù]
with xetex doesn't work either - still scrambled. :O(
With texexec --autopdf --pdf, accented characters
are displayed correctly. It seems to be something with
xetex...
2008/6/27 Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> - ConTeXt ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
> - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)
>
> When using
>
> (1) \setupinteraction[state=start,
> title={éèçàù},
> subtitle={éèçàù},
> author={éèçàù},
> keyword={éèçàù}]
>
> the accented characters get al scrambled up in the pdf
> document properties fields while in the document itself
> all is ok.
>
> Qué passa ?
>
>
> (2) \pdfminorversion=5 (or whatever) gives
>
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> l.31 \pdfminorversion
> =5
> ?
> ! Emergency stop.
> l.31 \pdfminorversion
> =5
>
> What's the alternative ?
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
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[NTG-context] pdf bizareness...
Hi,
- ConTeXt ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
- XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)
When using
(1) \setupinteraction[state=start,
title={éèçàù},
subtitle={éèçàù},
author={éèçàù},
keyword={éèçàù}]
the accented characters get al scrambled up in the pdf
document properties fields while in the document itself
all is ok.
Qué passa ?
(2) \pdfminorversion=5 (or whatever) gives
! Undefined control sequence.
l.31 \pdfminorversion
=5
?
! Emergency stop.
l.31 \pdfminorversion
=5
What's the alternative ?
Thanks,
Alan
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