Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-02-05 Thread luigi scarso
On 1/31/07, Johan Sandblom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I moved from pdftex-1.30.5-2.2 (from texlive-base-bin
 2005.dfsg.2-10 on debian) to pdftex-1.40.1 suddenly ligatures in

This seem to be fixed with 1.40.3 release of pdftex .

luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-02-05 Thread Martin Schröder
2007/2/5, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 This seem to be fixed with 1.40.3 release of pdftex .

This _is_ fixed and the only reason for 1.40.3. :-}

Best
   Martin
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Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-02-02 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Johan,

Johan Sandblom wrote:
 For the time being I simplified my design and removed the use of Zapf
 Chancery, and there is no problem.

I am trying to work this out, but I obviously miss the gentium
font files (metric and map files, as wel as the actual fonts).
I can get the ttfs from the sil site, but where did the tfms
and map files come from?

Best,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-02-02 Thread Johan Sandblom
Sorry, neglected to mention (it was long ago and I had forgotten), I
installed it with texfont

texfont --ma --in --ve=sil --co=gentium --fontroot=/usr/share/texmf
--afmpl [--en=ec]

hmm, can't remember if it was /usr/share on the end

Thank you for your efforts

Johan

2007/2/2, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Johan,

 Johan Sandblom wrote:
  For the time being I simplified my design and removed the use of Zapf
  Chancery, and there is no problem.

 I am trying to work this out, but I obviously miss the gentium
 font files (metric and map files, as wel as the actual fonts).
 I can get the ttfs from the sil site, but where did the tfms
 and map files come from?

 Best,
 Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-02-02 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

2007/2/2, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


I am trying to work this out, but I obviously miss the gentium
font files (metric and map files, as wel as the actual fonts).
I can get the ttfs from the sil site, but where did the tfms
and map files come from?



Take mine:
http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-4

Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-02-02 Thread Martin Schröder
2007/2/2, Johan Sandblom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Sorry, neglected to mention (it was long ago and I had forgotten), I
 installed it with texfont

Btw: The -recorder switch of pdftex/web2c (don't know how to use that
with texexec) will write a list of all files used by pdftex (including
fonts) to a file. And if you put all these files in the same directory
as your input file, pdftex will use those, so you don't have to fiddle
with texmf-*.

Best
   Martin
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Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-02-02 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
 The -recorder switch of pdftex/web2c (don't know how to use that
 with texexec) 

Like so:

  texexec --passon=-recorder file.tex

The --passon feature had lapsed in the transition from perl to ruby
texexec, but Hans and Taco fixed it in one of the recent ConTeXt
releases.  I now use it all the time to get compiler-like error msgs:

  texexec --passon=-file-line-error ...

filtering the output through

  egrep -i -A 4 '^([^ :]+:[0-9]+: |output written.*pages)'

to select the error lines and a bit of context, so to speak.

-Sanjoy

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Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures (pdftex bug)

2007-02-02 Thread Taco Hoekwater


See minimal example here:

http://sarovar.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=729group_id=106atid=493

Best, Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-02-01 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Johan,

If the only change is the pdftex version, than it sounds like this
is a pdftex bug. Any chance you can create a small standalone testfile?

Best, Taco

Johan Sandblom wrote:
 When I moved from pdftex-1.30.5-2.2 (from texlive-base-bin
 2005.dfsg.2-10 on debian) to pdftex-1.40.1 suddenly ligatures in
 gentium exhibited erratic behavior: they appeared correctly (or, more
 accurately, the letters appeared, they did not look like a proper
 ligature) on screen in xpdf and acroread but did not print (there were
 just empty spaces). On windows, the fi, fl, and ff combinations made
 blanks, just as on the printer. Reverting to pdftex-1.30.5-2.2
 corrected the problem. Gentium is from ttf-gentium 1.02-2 on debian
 and the typescript I use is below. Perhaps my poor typesetting
 knowledge has lead me wrong and the lack of true ligatures is the
 actual problem?
 
 Regards, Johan
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-02-01 Thread Johan Sandblom
It took a lot of searching for a minimal case, apparently there are
many levels of interaction here. The file below has blanks for fi fl
ff when compiled with pdftex-1.40.1 but not with pdftex-1.30.5. Do you
need some parts of my tex/font setup as well?

Johan

\usetypescriptfile[type-sil-gentium]
\usetypescript[my][sil-gentium]
\setupbodyfont[sil-gentium, 10pt]

\definetypeface
  [chance]
  [cg]
  [calligraphy]
  [chancery]
  [default]
  [encoding=texnansi]

\def\ChCmd#1#2{%
  \switchtobodyfont[14pt]
  \setupinterlinespace[small]
  \framed[width=15cm, align=normal, frame=off]
 {\framed[frame=off, align=middle, offset=2mm, width=.8\textwidth]{#2}
  \hfilll\switchtobodyfont[chance,30pt]
  \framed[background=color, backgroundcolor=black, width=3cm,
align=right]{\white\bf#1}}}

\setuphead
  [chapter]
  [command=\ChCmd,
header=empty,
page=right]

\starttext

\chapter[meth]{Methods for studying human brain function}

fill significantly flog flash floozy flagellation

\stoptext

2007/2/1, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Johan,

 If the only change is the pdftex version, than it sounds like this
 is a pdftex bug. Any chance you can create a small standalone testfile?

 Best, Taco

 Johan Sandblom wrote:
  When I moved from pdftex-1.30.5-2.2 (from texlive-base-bin
  2005.dfsg.2-10 on debian) to pdftex-1.40.1 suddenly ligatures in
  gentium exhibited erratic behavior: they appeared correctly (or, more
  accurately, the letters appeared, they did not look like a proper
  ligature) on screen in xpdf and acroread but did not print (there were
  just empty spaces). On windows, the fi, fl, and ff combinations made
  blanks, just as on the printer. Reverting to pdftex-1.30.5-2.2
  corrected the problem. Gentium is from ttf-gentium 1.02-2 on debian
  and the typescript I use is below. Perhaps my poor typesetting
  knowledge has lead me wrong and the lack of true ligatures is the
  actual problem?
 
  Regards, Johan
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-02-01 Thread Hans Hagen
Johan Sandblom wrote:
 It took a lot of searching for a minimal case, apparently there are
 many levels of interaction here. The file below has blanks for fi fl
 ff when compiled with pdftex-1.40.1 but not with pdftex-1.30.5. Do you
 need some parts of my tex/font setup as well?

 Johan

 \usetypescriptfile[type-sil-gentium]
 \usetypescript[my][sil-gentium]
 \setupbodyfont[sil-gentium, 10pt]

 \definetypeface
   [chance]
   [cg]
   [calligraphy]
   [chancery]
   [default]
   [encoding=texnansi]

 \def\ChCmd#1#2{%
   \switchtobodyfont[14pt]
   \setupinterlinespace[small]
   \framed[width=15cm, align=normal, frame=off]
  {\framed[frame=off, align=middle, offset=2mm, width=.8\textwidth]{#2}
   \hfilll\switchtobodyfont[chance,30pt]
   \framed[background=color, backgroundcolor=black, width=3cm,
 align=right]{\white\bf#1}}}

 \setuphead
   [chapter]
   [command=\ChCmd,
 header=empty,
 page=right]

 \starttext

 \chapter[meth]{Methods for studying human brain function}

 fill significantly flog flash floozy flagellation

 \stoptext

 2007/2/1, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Hi Johan,

 If the only change is the pdftex version, than it sounds like this
 is a pdftex bug. Any chance you can create a small standalone testfile?

 Best, Taco

 Johan Sandblom wrote:
 
 When I moved from pdftex-1.30.5-2.2 (from texlive-base-bin
 2005.dfsg.2-10 on debian) to pdftex-1.40.1 suddenly ligatures in
 gentium exhibited erratic behavior: they appeared correctly (or, more
 accurately, the letters appeared, they did not look like a proper
 ligature) on screen in xpdf and acroread but did not print (there were
 just empty spaces). On windows, the fi, fl, and ff combinations made
 blanks, just as on the printer. Reverting to pdftex-1.30.5-2.2
 corrected the problem. Gentium is from ttf-gentium 1.02-2 on debian
 and the typescript I use is below. Perhaps my poor typesetting
 knowledge has lead me wrong and the lack of true ligatures is the
 actual problem?
   

no, but it may be related to a bug in vf handling that has been resolved 
by now (new version of pdftex coming)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-02-01 Thread Johan Sandblom
For the time being I simplified my design and removed the use of Zapf
Chancery, and there is no problem.

Johan

2007/2/1, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Johan Sandblom wrote:
  It took a lot of searching for a minimal case, apparently there are
  many levels of interaction here. The file below has blanks for fi fl
  ff when compiled with pdftex-1.40.1 but not with pdftex-1.30.5. Do you
  need some parts of my tex/font setup as well?
 
  Johan
 
  \usetypescriptfile[type-sil-gentium]
  \usetypescript[my][sil-gentium]
  \setupbodyfont[sil-gentium, 10pt]
 
  \definetypeface
[chance]
[cg]
[calligraphy]
[chancery]
[default]
[encoding=texnansi]
 
  \def\ChCmd#1#2{%
\switchtobodyfont[14pt]
\setupinterlinespace[small]
\framed[width=15cm, align=normal, frame=off]
   {\framed[frame=off, align=middle, offset=2mm, 
  width=.8\textwidth]{#2}
\hfilll\switchtobodyfont[chance,30pt]
\framed[background=color, backgroundcolor=black, width=3cm,
  align=right]{\white\bf#1}}}
 
  \setuphead
[chapter]
[command=\ChCmd,
  header=empty,
  page=right]
 
  \starttext
 
  \chapter[meth]{Methods for studying human brain function}
 
  fill significantly flog flash floozy flagellation
 
  \stoptext
 
  2007/2/1, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Hi Johan,
 
  If the only change is the pdftex version, than it sounds like this
  is a pdftex bug. Any chance you can create a small standalone testfile?
 
  Best, Taco
 
  Johan Sandblom wrote:
 
  When I moved from pdftex-1.30.5-2.2 (from texlive-base-bin
  2005.dfsg.2-10 on debian) to pdftex-1.40.1 suddenly ligatures in
  gentium exhibited erratic behavior: they appeared correctly (or, more
  accurately, the letters appeared, they did not look like a proper
  ligature) on screen in xpdf and acroread but did not print (there were
  just empty spaces). On windows, the fi, fl, and ff combinations made
  blanks, just as on the printer. Reverting to pdftex-1.30.5-2.2
  corrected the problem. Gentium is from ttf-gentium 1.02-2 on debian
  and the typescript I use is below. Perhaps my poor typesetting
  knowledge has lead me wrong and the lack of true ligatures is the
  actual problem?
 

 no, but it may be related to a bug in vf handling that has been resolved
 by now (new version of pdftex coming)

 Hans

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[NTG-context] problem with pdftex-1.40.1 and Gentium ligatures

2007-01-31 Thread Johan Sandblom

When I moved from pdftex-1.30.5-2.2 (from texlive-base-bin
2005.dfsg.2-10 on debian) to pdftex-1.40.1 suddenly ligatures in
gentium exhibited erratic behavior: they appeared correctly (or, more
accurately, the letters appeared, they did not look like a proper
ligature) on screen in xpdf and acroread but did not print (there were
just empty spaces). On windows, the fi, fl, and ff combinations made
blanks, just as on the printer. Reverting to pdftex-1.30.5-2.2
corrected the problem. Gentium is from ttf-gentium 1.02-2 on debian
and the typescript I use is below. Perhaps my poor typesetting
knowledge has lead me wrong and the lack of true ligatures is the
actual problem?

Regards, Johan


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