Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-14 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 
 Is it on windows?  It seems -- unless your tests too are on linux

Yes, it is on windows (Acrobat Reader 7.0.8 and 7.0.9)
I tried with ghostscript 8.53, and all is ok.
Don't know what with AcroRead 8.

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 
Hallo!

  % a lot of weird corners
  
  in core-rul ... 
 
 Hallo!
 
 I played a little with this and found some artefacts in the arc
 with
 rulethickness=2pt or 4pt (3pt is ok).
 
 \framed[corner=14,
 frame=on,
 framecolor=darkred,
 rulethickness=2pt]{\tttf TEST MORE~}
 

Can nobody else see, that the two strokes building the frame do not 
match at some pointsizes? 

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Taco Hoekwater 
Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
 Hallo!
 
 
% a lot of weird corners

in core-rul ... 

Hallo!

I played a little with this and found some artefacts in the arc
with
rulethickness=2pt or 4pt (3pt is ok).

\framed[corner=14,
frame=on,
framecolor=darkred,
rulethickness=2pt]{\tttf TEST MORE~}

 
 
 Can nobody else see, that the two strokes building the frame do not 
 match at some pointsizes? 

See where? Screen, print? Which program? Which version of the program?

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Peter Münster 
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:

  I played a little with this and found some artefacts in the arc
  with
  rulethickness=2pt or 4pt (3pt is ok).
  
  \framed[corner=14,
  frame=on,
  framecolor=darkred,
  rulethickness=2pt]{\tttf TEST MORE~}
  
 
 Can nobody else see, that the two strokes building the frame do not 
 match at some pointsizes? 

I don't see any artefacts, but I see the whole frame in the dvi file, and
only the right frame and the bottom in the pdf file.
Strange...

(context source date: 2007.01.12 15:56)

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Peter Rolf 
Hi Wolfgang,

Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
 Hallo!
 
 % a lot of weird corners

 in core-rul ... 
 Hallo!

 I played a little with this and found some artefacts in the arc
 with
 rulethickness=2pt or 4pt (3pt is ok).

 \framed[corner=14,
  

I haven't tested it, but if the interface hasn't changed, only
corner=round|retangular are allowed. So what is the meaning of this
magic number 14?

Greetings, Peter

 frame=on,
 framecolor=darkred,
 rulethickness=2pt]{\tttf TEST MORE~}

 
 Can nobody else see, that the two strokes building the frame do not 
 match at some pointsizes? 
 
 Wolfgang
 
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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan 
[call this test file q.tex]
 \starttext
 \framed[corner=14, frame=on, framecolor=darkred,
 rulethickness=2pt]{\tttf TEST MORE~}
 \stoptext

 I don't see any artefacts, but I see the whole frame in the dvi
 file, and only the right frame and the bottom in the pdf file.
 Strange...
 (context source date: 2007.01.12 15:56)

Agreed.  With the same ConTeXt and with pdftex 1.40.0 (i386 linux):

texexec q.tex   : 'xpdf q.pdf' shows only the right and bottom frames
texexec --dvi q.tex : 'xdvi q.dvi' and 'gv q.ps' show the whole frame

I added the file to the test repo as base/core-rul.tex/test-001.tex

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Willi Egger 
Tested with:

% TeXExec | pdfeTeX Version 3.141592-1.30.3-2.2 (Web2c 7.5.5)
% TeXExec | ConTeXt ver: 2006.12.20 23:52 MK II fmt: 2006.12.23 int: 
english/english
% This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2c 7.5.3)

% TeXExec | pdfTeX Version 3.141592-1.40.0 (Web2C 7.5.6)
% TeXExec | ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2007.1.13 int: 
english/english
% This is MetaPost, Version 0.992 (Web2C 7.5.5)

\setupbodyfont[ss,12pt]
\setupcolors[state=start]

\starttext
\dostepwiserecurse{8}{24}{2}{%
\switchtobodyfont[ss,\recurselevel pt]
\framed[corner=14,
frame=on,
framecolor=darkred,
rulethickness=2pt]{TEST MORE~}
\blank[big]}
\stoptext

On SCREEN viewed with Acrobat 7.0.9 on Windows XP I see different 
artefacts in the lower connection of the horizontal and rounded corner line:
- spikes directed outside the frame
- semicircular white spot
- semcircular white spot with spikes towards the inside of the spot

The artefacts occur in both versions of Context tested.

Willi


Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
   
 Hallo!


 
 % a lot of weird corners

 in core-rul ... 
 
 Hallo!

 I played a little with this and found some artefacts in the arc
 with
 rulethickness=2pt or 4pt (3pt is ok).

 \framed[corner=14,
frame=on,
framecolor=darkred,
rulethickness=2pt]{\tttf TEST MORE~}

   
 Can nobody else see, that the two strokes building the frame do not 
 match at some pointsizes? 
 

 See where? Screen, print? Which program? Which version of the program?

 Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan 
 I haven't tested it, but if the interface hasn't changed, only
 corner=round|rectangular are allowed. So what is the meaning of this
 magic number 14?

It says which of the many possible combinations of rounded/rectangular
corners, on/off frame lines to use.  Try this magic snippet from
core-rul.tex:

\starttext
\dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{13}{16}{1}{\framed
[corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}\quad}
\stoptext

and see also Aditya's wikified results:

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Framed#Rounded_Coreners

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Taco Hoekwater 
Willi Egger wrote:
 On SCREEN viewed with Acrobat 7.0.9 on Windows XP I see different 
 artefacts in the lower connection of the horizontal and rounded corner line:
 - spikes directed outside the frame
 - semicircular white spot
 - semcircular white spot with spikes towards the inside of the spot


I tried with this set of context/pdftex/metapost:

   pdfTeX Version 3.141592-1.40.0 (Web2C 7.5.6)
   ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2007.1.13 int: english/english
   MetaPost, Version 0.994 (Web2C 7.5.5)
   Adobe Reader 7.0.1, Linux

No artifacts whatsoever.

Best,
Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Peter Rolf 
Many thanks, Sanjoy!

Greetings, Peter

Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
 I haven't tested it, but if the interface hasn't changed, only
 corner=round|rectangular are allowed. So what is the meaning of this
 magic number 14?
 
 It says which of the many possible combinations of rounded/rectangular
 corners, on/off frame lines to use.  Try this magic snippet from
 core-rul.tex:
 
 \starttext
 \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{13}{16}{1}{\framed
 [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
 \twodigits\recurselevel}\quad}
 \stoptext
 
 and see also Aditya's wikified results:
 
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Framed#Rounded_Coreners
 
 -Sanjoy
 
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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Peter Münster 
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Willi Egger wrote:

 On SCREEN viewed with Acrobat 7.0.9 on Windows XP I see different 
 artefacts in the lower connection of the horizontal and rounded corner line:
 - spikes directed outside the frame
 - semicircular white spot
 - semcircular white spot with spikes towards the inside of the spot
 
 The artefacts occur in both versions of Context tested.

Nothing to see here:
TeXExec | pdfeTeX Version 3.141592-1.30.6-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
TeXExec | ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2007.1.12 int: english/english
acroread 7.0.1 on Linux

But I get these errors:
! Font \*16.7ptrmitss*=ec-lmri10 at 16.7pt not loaded: Not enough room left.
! Font \*24ptrmitss*=ec-lmri10 at 24.0pt not loaded: Not enough room left.
! Font \*16.7ptrmbsss*=ec-lmbxo10 at 16.7pt not loaded: Not enough room left.
! Font \*24ptrmbsss*=ec-lmbxo10 at 24.0pt not loaded: Not enough room left.
! Font \*16.7ptrmbiss*=ec-lmbxi10 at 16.7pt not loaded: Not enough room left.
! Font \*24ptrmbiss*=ec-lmbxi10 at 24.0pt not loaded: Not enough room left.
! Font \*16.7ptrmscss*=ec-lmcsc10 at 16.7pt not loaded: Not enough room left.
! Font \*24ptrmscss*=ec-lmcsc10 at 24.0pt not loaded: Not enough room left.

(I'll try it Monday on a recent TeX-live installation, here at home it's
only teTeX-3.0...)

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan 
Willi,

 The artefacts occur in both versions of Context tested.

I don't see those artifacts.  I'm using Ubuntu GNU/Linux and xpdf 3.0
as the viewer.  I tried two tests:

1. % pdfTeX  Version 3.141592-1.40.0 (Web2C 7.5.6)
   % ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII

and I downgraded the pdftex temporarily (and remade formats):

2. % pdfeTeX Version 3.141592-1.30.3-2.2 (Web2c 7.5.5)
   % ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII

Do you want to send me your PDF file and I can view it here with xpdf
to see whether the artifacts are specific to Windows acroread?
Actually I'll send you my pdf file (off-list) and you can try the same
experiment in reverse.

But I do get the same errors that Peter found:

! Font \*16.7ptrmitss*=ec-lmri10 at 16.7pt not loaded: Not enough room
left.

etc. (but if I type 'R', it runs without stopping and the pdf file
views fine).

Alas the dvi (and ps) file shows complete boxes, which is incorrect.

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 
 On SCREEN viewed with Acrobat 7.0.9 on Windows XP I see different 
 artefacts in the lower connection of the horizontal and rounded
 corner line:
 - spikes directed outside the frame
 - semicircular white spot
 - semcircular white spot with spikes towards the inside of the
 spot

Thank you Willi!

That's what I see with 
(Adobe Reader 7.0.8; ConTeXt 2007.01.02 13:44).

It depends on rulethickness and gets printed!!!

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-13 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan 
Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini writes:
 That's what I see with 
 (Adobe Reader 7.0.8; ConTeXt 2007.01.02 13:44).

Is it on windows?  It seems -- unless your tests too are on linux --
that windows is the common denominator for showing the artifacts.  The
linux viewers (whether xpdf, gv, or acroread) don't show it.

Your mail headers have this line:

  X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31, DE v4.31 R1)

So the chances that the problem is specific to windows are still high!

Whether it's a bug in windows acroread, I don't know.  Maybe windows
acroread is rendering it correctly, and the other viewers are
interpreting the PDF incorrectly?  But I suspect it's a windows
acroread problem.  Anyone try it with acroread 8 for windows?

-Sanjoy

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-10 Thread andrea valle 
Hi to all,

(thanks for pointing to the sources but I understand better 
proto-Indoeuropean than TeX...:)

In any case, I discovered that the secret lies in:

rulethickness=3pt

non rulethickness no rule at all

Best


-a-


On 10 Jan 2007, at 08:46, luigi scarso wrote:

 Inside last core-rule.tex
 (it doesn't appears in core-modu.pdf)
 % \startTEXpage
 % \dontleavehmode\framed
 % [corner=0,frame=on,framecolor=green,
 %  background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow]{\tttf TEST
 \twodigits\recurselevel}%
 % \vskip1em
 % \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {1} {4}{1}{\framed
 % [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green,
 %  background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow]{\tttf TEST
 \twodigits\recurselevel}%
 % \quad}
 % \vskip1em
 % \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {5} {8}{1}{\framed
 % [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green,
 %  background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow]{\tttf TEST
 \twodigits\recurselevel}%
 % \quad}
 % \vskip1em
 % \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {1} {4}{1}{\framed
 % [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
 \twodigits\recurselevel}%
 % \quad}
 % \vskip1em
 % \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {5} {8}{1}{\framed
 % [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
 \twodigits\recurselevel}%
 % \quad}
 % \vskip1em
 % \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {9}{12}{1}{\framed
 % [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
 \twodigits\recurselevel}%
 % \quad}
 % \vskip1em
 % \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{13}{16}{1}{\framed
 % [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
 \twodigits\recurselevel}%
 % \quad}
 % \vskip1em
 % \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{17}{20}{1}{\framed
 % [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
 \twodigits\recurselevel}%
 % \quad}
 % \vskip1em
 % \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{21}{24}{1}{\framed
 % [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
 \twodigits\recurselevel}%
 % \quad}
 % \vskip1em
 % \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{25}{28}{1}{\framed
 % [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
 \twodigits\recurselevel}%
 % \quad}
 % \stopTEXpage

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan 
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, luigi scarso wrote:

 Inside last core-rule.tex

Interesting wikified at 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Framed#Rounded_Coreners

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[NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread andrea valle 
Dear all,

Consider this minimal example:

\defineframedtext[container][width=local, corner=round, frame=off, 
rightframe=on ]


\starttext
\startcontainer
test
\stopcontainer
\stoptext


Substantially I copied it from cont-eni. It seems that it doesn't work. 
On my system I have no frame at all.
?

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread luigi scarso 
On 1/9/07, andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear all,

 Consider this minimal example:

 \defineframedtext[container][width=local, corner=round, frame=off,
 rightframe=on ]


Yes, I have already noticed that (but I don't consider it a bug; maybe is it ?)
 Substantially I copied it from cont-eni. It seems that it doesn't work.
hmm, cont-eni
I can't find it in my distro.
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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread andrea valle 
(Grazie Luigi.)

If it's not a bug in any case it doesn't work as described in the 
manual  cont-eni.pdf, pp. 261-262 (sorry, I wasn't meaning the source 
but the manual).

Best

-a-

On 9 Jan 2007, at 12:39, luigi scarso wrote:

 On 1/9/07, andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear all,

 Consider this minimal example:

 \defineframedtext[container][width=local, corner=round, frame=off,
 rightframe=on ]


 Yes, I have already noticed that (but I don't consider it a bug; maybe 
 is it ?)
 Substantially I copied it from cont-eni. It seems that it doesn't 
 work.
 hmm, cont-eni
 I can't find it in my distro.
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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread luigi scarso 
On 1/9/07, andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (Grazie Luigi.)

 If it's not a bug in any case it doesn't work as described in the
 manual  cont-eni.pdf, pp. 261-262 (sorry, I wasn't meaning the source
 but the manual).
ah yes, too much involved with modules.pdf 

This works as expected here (cfr pag 261-262 (real page 264-265)):
\setupcolors[state=start]
\setupframedtexts
  [background=screen,
   frame=off,
   rightframe=on,
   framecolor=darkgreen,
   rulethickness=3pt]

\starttext
\startframedtext
WWW
\stopframedtext
\stoptext
In my experience,  corner=round is only full-frame
Hints:
1) metapost
2)pgf
3) pdf-trans

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread Hans Hagen 
luigi scarso wrote:
 On 1/9/07, andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 (Grazie Luigi.)

 If it's not a bug in any case it doesn't work as described in the
 manual  cont-eni.pdf, pp. 261-262 (sorry, I wasn't meaning the source
 but the manual).
 
 ah yes, too much involved with modules.pdf 
   
 This works as expected here (cfr pag 261-262 (real page 264-265)):
 \setupcolors[state=start]
 \setupframedtexts
   [background=screen,
frame=off,
rightframe=on,
framecolor=darkgreen,
rulethickness=3pt]

 \starttext
 \startframedtext
 WWW
 \stopframedtext
 \stoptext
 In my experience,  corner=round is only full-frame
 Hints:
 1) metapost
 2)pgf
 3) pdf-trans
   

grep for

% a lot of weird corners

in core-rul ... 

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 
 grep for
 
 % a lot of weird corners
 
 in core-rul ... 

Hallo!

I played a little with this and found some artefacts in the arc with
rulethickness=2pt or 4pt (3pt is ok).

\framed[corner=14,
frame=on,
framecolor=darkred,
rulethickness=2pt]{\tttf TEST MORE~}

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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread luigi scarso 
Inside last core-rule.tex
(it doesn't appears in core-modu.pdf)
% \startTEXpage
% \dontleavehmode\framed
% [corner=0,frame=on,framecolor=green,
%  background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {1} {4}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green,
%  background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {5} {8}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green,
%  background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {1} {4}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {5} {8}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {9}{12}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{13}{16}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{17}{20}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
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luigi
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