Re: [NTG-context] tilde character

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 14.03.22 um 18:45 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2022, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:


Hi, I’ve a stupid question: How do I get the default tilde character
from a font?

~ is a fixed space
\texttilde gives a tilde accent
\utfchar{0x007E} yields a space (probably the same as ~)


\textasciitilde


Thank you!

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Re: [NTG-context] tilde character

[Marco Patzer via ntg-context]

On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 18:36:08 +0100
Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context  wrote:

> How do I get the default tilde character from a font?

\starttext
  \startasciimode
a~b
  \stopasciimode

  a\textasciitilde b
\stoptext

Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] tilde character

[Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context]

Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context schrieb am 14.03.2022 um 18:36:
Hi, I’ve a stupid question: How do I get the default tilde character 
from a font?


~ is a fixed space
\texttilde gives a tilde accent
\utfchar{0x007E} yields a space (probably the same as ~)


\lettertilde

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] tilde character

[Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context]

On Mon, 14 Mar 2022, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

> Hi, I’ve a stupid question: How do I get the default tilde character 
> from a font?
> 
> ~ is a fixed space
> \texttilde gives a tilde accent
> \utfchar{0x007E} yields a space (probably the same as ~)

\textasciitilde 

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[NTG-context] tilde character

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Hi, I’ve a stupid question: How do I get the default tilde character 
from a font?


~ is a fixed space
\texttilde gives a tilde accent
\utfchar{0x007E} yields a space (probably the same as ~)


Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] tilde in math

[Hans Hagen]

On 8/11/2017 7:45 PM, Alan Braslau wrote:

On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 16:15:06 +0200
Hans Hagen  wrote:


Question: does anyone rely on ~ being active and a nbsp in math mode?


Hi Hans,

This is quite common practice in the TeX world.

I have configured my text editor to highlight the utf-8 nbsp, and I use
it largely in text mode. However, it is often my practice to still use
the tilde in math mode, as its explicit presence is always there for a
reason, in order to achieve some effect. So I am accustomed to
interpreting the tilde in math mode in this way.

The question as to whether or not this use within ConTeXt should be
promoted/encouraged is another one. Let me simply suggest that many
users simply copy equations from one source to another, and so it may
be valuable to remain compatible with (La)TeX usage.
it can become an option some day then ... because it permits 
auto-resolving ~= to the proper symbol (as we do with := and such)


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] tilde in math

[Alan Braslau]

On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 16:15:06 +0200
Hans Hagen  wrote:

> Question: does anyone rely on ~ being active and a nbsp in math mode?

Hi Hans,

This is quite common practice in the TeX world.

I have configured my text editor to highlight the utf-8 nbsp, and I use
it largely in text mode. However, it is often my practice to still use
the tilde in math mode, as its explicit presence is always there for a
reason, in order to achieve some effect. So I am accustomed to
interpreting the tilde in math mode in this way.

The question as to whether or not this use within ConTeXt should be
promoted/encouraged is another one. Let me simply suggest that many
users simply copy equations from one source to another, and so it may
be valuable to remain compatible with (La)TeX usage.

Alan
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[NTG-context] tilde in math

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

Question: does anyone rely on ~ being active and a nbsp in math mode?

Hans

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[NTG-context] tilde

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

Hallo,

if I want a non-breaking-space I use a tilde '~' sign.

For example in: bakerstreet~13

This has worked in my old context. But now, after my update,
I get an very long space. 

Minimal example:

\starttext
\framed[align=flushright,width=broad]{Hello~World!}
\stoptext

Is this a bug? What else kann I use for a non-breaking-space?

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] tilde

[Marco]

On 2011-10-25 Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini w...@musensturm.de wrote:

 if I want a non-breaking-space I use a tilde '~' sign.
 
 For example in: bakerstreet~13
 
 This has worked in my old context. But now, after my update,
 I get an very long space. 
 
 Minimal example:
 
 \starttext
 \framed[align=flushright,width=broad]{Hello~World!}
 \stoptext
 
 Is this a bug?

Confirmed. Works here with 2011.06.11 16:45 and fails with 2011.10.24 21:26.

 What else kann I use for a non-breaking-space?

Use a 'NO-BREAK SPACE' (U+00A0). But the behaviour
persists.

Maybe a better minimal example:

\starttext
\framed[align=flushright,width=broad]{Hello~World!}
\framed[align=flushright,width=broad]{Hello World!}
\stoptext


Marco


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[NTG-context] Tilde in page numbers

[Kip Warner]

Hey list,

I have my page numbers setup as follows so that page numbers are flanked
with tildes.

\setuppagenumbering
  [location=right,
   way=bytext,
   left={\~},right={\~},
   color=colour_page_number,
   style=bold]

ConTeXt chokes on the parameters to left and right:
! Undefined control sequence.

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Re: [NTG-context] Tilde in page numbers

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote:
 Hey list,

 I have my page numbers setup as follows so that page numbers are flanked
 with tildes.

 \setuppagenumbering
  [location=right,
   way=bytext,
   left={\~},right={\~},
   color=colour_page_number,
   style=bold]

 ConTeXt chokes on the parameters to left and right:
 ! Undefined control sequence.
(untested)
what about \lettertilde instead of \~ ?

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Re: [NTG-context] Tilde in page numbers

[Kip Warner]

On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 08:08 +0200, luigi scarso wrote:
 (untested)
 what about \lettertilde instead of \~ ?

Thanks Luigi. That did it. Although, I think if I was using it properly
as an escape sequence, then perhaps we have found a bug.

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Re: [NTG-context] Tilde in page numbers

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Kip Warner wrote:


On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 08:08 +0200, luigi scarso wrote:

(untested)
what about \lettertilde instead of \~ ?


Thanks Luigi. That did it. Although, I think if I was using it properly
as an escape sequence,


\~ is the plain TeX macro for placing the ~ accent. Try \~a etc. The 
correct way to access a tilde is \lettertilde and \texttilde (or 
\textasciitilde) depending on what glyph you want.


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Tilde in page numbers

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 08:08 +0200, luigi scarso wrote:
 (untested)
 what about \lettertilde instead of \~ ?

 Thanks Luigi. That did it. Although, I think if I was using it properly
 as an escape sequence, then perhaps we have found a bug.
As Aditya said \~ is a plain TeX macro.
As general rule it doesn't hurt to know about plain TeX, at least for mkii
(and yes, it's not like laTeX.)


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Re: [NTG-context] Tilde in page numbers

[Kip Warner]

On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 02:23 -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 \~ is the plain TeX macro for placing the ~ accent. Try \~a etc. The 
 correct way to access a tilde is \lettertilde and \texttilde (or 
 \textasciitilde) depending on what glyph you want.
 
 Aditya

Thanks Aditya. If I had more time, I'd be updating the wiki and pdfs
with all the answers to these questions.

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