Re: [NTG-context] two problems for bib module

2010-07-22 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi Yanrui,

I'm afraid I can't really help you with your problems; I have just a thought on 
# 2.: at it's core, bibtex is still a 7-bit application. Development on 
replacements has begun - there's bibtexu, which is in TL2010, there's biber; 
none of them is quite mature yet. If memory serves right, Hans said that in the 
future, he wants to bypass bibtex altogether and develop something of his own. 
So, long story short: if you use Chinese characters in a .bib file, it's 
hit-or-miss; it's unreliable and may or may not work. There's nothing ConTeXt 
can do about that as things stand now.

All best

Thomas

On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have the following problems when I use the bib module.
 
 1. For the cite of 'authoryear', how to make it being clickable link?
 
 This is a minimum example:
 
 %%%
 %% filename: test.tex
 \setupinteraction[state=start]
 \setupbibtex[database=ref]
 
 \setupcite[authoryear]
 \setuppublications[refcommand=authoryear]
 
 \starttext
 
 A: \cite[zixuwuyou].
 
 \title{References}
 \placepublications[criterium=all]
 
 \stoptext
 
 %%%
 
 %% filename: ref.bib
 @article{zixuwuyou,
  title={{Several problems for bib module}},
  author={Zhou, Y. and Suri, S. and Yanry, L.},
  journal={Journal of Bala bala},
  volume={46},
  number={6},
  pages={833--857},
  year={1999},
  publisher={Bala Bala}
 }
 
 2. In .bib file for Chinese (maybe cjk more exact) references, because
 the 'and' separator can not work, we have to use some Chinese
 punctuations as separator, such as Chinese comma. In this case, the
 cite of author's et.al. can not work.
 
 The following is an example (needed AdobeSongStd-Light.otf).
 
 
 %% filename: test.tex
 
 \starttypescript[serif][zhfont]
 \definefontsynonym[western][name:latinmodernromanregular]
 \definefontfallback[song][name:adobesongstd][0x00400-0x2FA1F]
 \definefontsynonym[fbsong][western][fallbacks=song]
 \definefontsynonym[Serif][fbsong]
 \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][fbsong]
 \stoptypescript
 
 \starttypescript[myfonts]
 \definetypeface[myfonts][rm][serif][zhfont]
 \stoptypescript
 
 \usetypescript[myfonts]
 \setupbodyfont[myfonts,rm,11pt]
 
 \setupinteraction[state=start]
 \setupbibtex[database=ref]
 
 \setupcite[authoryear][andtext={,}]
 \setuppublications[refcommand=authoryear,sorttype=bbl]
 
 \starttext
 
 A: \cite[谢2008]
 
 \title{References}
 \placepublications[criterium=all]
 
 \stoptext
 
 
 %% filename: ref.bib
 
 @article{谢2008,
  title={中国工业生产率的增长与收敛},
  author={谢千里,罗斯基,张轶凡},
  journal={经济学(季刊)},
  volume={7},
  number={3},
  pages={809--826},
  year={2008}
 }
 
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 
 Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
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Re: [NTG-context] two problems for bib module

2010-07-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-7-2010 2:27, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


I'm afraid I can't really help you with your problems; I have just a thought on 
# 2.: at it's core, bibtex is still a 7-bit application. Development on 
replacements has begun - there's bibtexu, which is in TL2010, there's biber; 
none of them is quite mature yet. If memory serves right, Hans said that in the 
future, he wants to bypass bibtex altogether and develop something of his own. 
So, long story short: if you use Chinese characters in a .bib file, it's 
hit-or-miss; it's unreliable and may or may not work. There's nothing ConTeXt 
can do about that as things stand now.


in principle it is possible but i need testers etc etc etc as i never 
use this feature myself


the attached example does not use bibtex at all, the bib file is read 
into mem (could also be an xml file) and it never sees bibtex


there is a bxml-apa.mkiv file that you'l probably recognize ..

\settrue \tracebibtexformat

can be fun too

Hans


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\setuplayout[backspace=1cm,topspace=.5cm,header=.5cm,footer=0cm,width=middle,height=middle]

\setuppapersize[S8][S8]

\starttypescript[serif][zhfont]
\definefontsynonym[western][name:latinmodernromanregular]
\definefontfallback[song][name:adobesongstd][0x00400-0x2FA1F]
\definefontsynonym[fbsong][western][fallbacks=song]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][fbsong]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][fbsong]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[myfonts]
\definetypeface[myfonts][rm][serif][zhfont]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[myfonts]
\setupbodyfont[myfonts,rm,11pt]

\starttext

\definebibtexsession  [somebibtex]
\registerbibtexfile   [somebibtex] [cjk.bib]
\preparebibtexsession [somebibtex] [convert,strip]

% \setuplist[somebibtex][before={\blank[medium]},after={\blank[medium]}] % hm

% \settrue \tracebibtexformat

\setupbibtexpublications[somebibtex][before={\blank[small]},after={\blank[small]}]

\startxmlsetups bibtex:bibtex
\xmlfilter{#1}{/entry/command(bibtex:format)}
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups bibtex:show
\xmlshow{#1}
\stopxmlsetups

\applytobibtexsession[somebibtex][bibtex:list]

cite: \bibtexcitation[somebibtex][test-entry] (中国工业生产率的增长与收敛)

% \applytobibtexsession[somebibtex][bibtex:show]

\blank dataref: \bibtexdataref   [somebibtex][test-entry]\blank
\blank typeref: \bibtextyperef   [somebibtex][test-entry]\blank
\blank key ref: \bibtexkeyref[somebibtex][test-entry]\blank
\blank serial  ref: \bibtexserialref [somebibtex][test-entry]\blank
\blank url ref: \bibtexurlref[somebibtex][test-entry]\blank
\blank doi ref: \bibtexdoiref[somebibtex][test-entry]\blank
\blank short   ref: \bibtexshortref  [somebibtex][test-entry]\blank
\blank yearref: \bibtexyearref   [somebibtex][test-entry]\blank
\blank author  ref: \bibtexauthorref [somebibtex][test-entry]\blank
\blank authoryear  ref: \bibtexauthoryearref [somebibtex][test-entry]\blank
\blank authoryears ref: \bibtexauthoryearsref[somebibtex][test-entry]\blank

\placebibtexpublications[somebibtex]

\stoptext


progressive-005.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
@article{ test-entry,
  title   = {中国工业生产率的增长与收敛},
  author  = {谢千里,罗斯基,张轶凡},
  journal = {经济学(季刊)},
  volume  = {7},
  number  = {3},
  pages   = {809--826},
  year= {2008}
}

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[NTG-context] two problems for bib module

2010-07-19 Thread 李延瑞
Hi all,

I have the following problems when I use the bib module.

1. For the cite of 'authoryear', how to make it being clickable link?

This is a minimum example:

%%%
%% filename: test.tex
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setupbibtex[database=ref]

\setupcite[authoryear]
\setuppublications[refcommand=authoryear]

\starttext

A: \cite[zixuwuyou].

\title{References}
\placepublications[criterium=all]

\stoptext

%%%

%% filename: ref.bib
@article{zixuwuyou,
  title={{Several problems for bib module}},
  author={Zhou, Y. and Suri, S. and Yanry, L.},
  journal={Journal of Bala bala},
  volume={46},
  number={6},
  pages={833--857},
  year={1999},
  publisher={Bala Bala}
}

2. In .bib file for Chinese (maybe cjk more exact) references, because
the 'and' separator can not work, we have to use some Chinese
punctuations as separator, such as Chinese comma. In this case, the
cite of author's et.al. can not work.

The following is an example (needed AdobeSongStd-Light.otf).


%% filename: test.tex

\starttypescript[serif][zhfont]
\definefontsynonym[western][name:latinmodernromanregular]
\definefontfallback[song][name:adobesongstd][0x00400-0x2FA1F]
\definefontsynonym[fbsong][western][fallbacks=song]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][fbsong]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][fbsong]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[myfonts]
\definetypeface[myfonts][rm][serif][zhfont]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[myfonts]
\setupbodyfont[myfonts,rm,11pt]

\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setupbibtex[database=ref]

\setupcite[authoryear][andtext={,}]
\setuppublications[refcommand=authoryear,sorttype=bbl]

\starttext

A: \cite[谢2008]

\title{References}
\placepublications[criterium=all]

\stoptext


%% filename: ref.bib

@article{谢2008,
  title={中国工业生产率的增长与收敛},
  author={谢千里,罗斯基,张轶凡},
  journal={经济学(季刊)},
  volume={7},
  number={3},
  pages={809--826},
  year={2008}
}


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Best regards,

Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
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