Re: [NTG-context] Arabic transliteration—ayn and alif (MKII)
Hi Alan,
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:21:31 -0700, Alan Bowen bowenala...@gmail.com
wrote:
What is the best way to produce ayn and alif in transliterated Arabic
using
MKII (Latin Modern)?
Why MkII? MkIV is much better for this.
Anyway, the old approaches are obsolete, since LM now has the glyphs for
02BE (hamzah) and 02BF (alif). OTOH, they may be needed for other fonts.
Let's start with something REALLY obsolete:
% ac-trans.tex
%%%=low-level
\def\SHIFT#1{\dimen0=.001ex
\multiply\dimen0 by\fontdimen1\font
\multiply\dimen0 by #1
\kern.0040\dimen0} % compensate for slant/italic in lower
accents
%\def\USHIFT#1{\dimen0=.00#1ex \multiply\dimen0 by\fontdimen1\font
% \kern.0040\dimen0} % compensate for slant/italic in upper
accents
%\def\USHIFTN#1{\dimen0=.00#1ex \multiply\dimen0 by\fontdimen1\font
% \kern-.0040\dimen0} % compensate for slant/italic in upper
accents
\def\buildtextbottombreve{\bottomaccent{.25ex}{0}{19}{\textbreve}}
%%%=ayn-hamzah
\def\CUPD#1#2{\leavevmode%
\SHIFT{#1}\rotate[rotation=180,location=high]{\txx c}%
\SHIFT{#2}}
%\definecharacter AYN {\leavevmode\raise.9ex\hbox{\txx \SHIFT{4}
c\SHIFT{-4}}{}}
%\definecharacter
HAMZAH{\leavevmode\kern.07em\raise.9ex\hbox{\CUPD{7}{-5}}{}}
\define[4]\AYN {\definecharacter Ayn
{\leavevmode\kern#1em\raise#2ex\hbox{\txx
\SHIFT{#3} c\SHIFT{#4}}{}}}
\define[4]\HAMZAH{\definecharacter Hamzah
{\leavevmode\kern#1em\raise#2ex\hbox{\CUPD{#3}{#4}}{}}}
\AYN{0}{0.9}{4}{-4} %
\HAMZAH{0.07}{0.9}{7}{-5}
\def\'{\Hamzah}
\def\`{\Ayn}
\endinput
% mkii-trans.tex
\starttext
\def\ISHA{\`i\v sha\'}
For Muslims, \ISHA{} is the last prayer of the day.
For Muslims, {\em \ISHA{}} is the last prayer of the day.
For Muslims, {\it \ISHA{}} is the last prayer of the day.
\stoptext
===
Brr... Or you have to have to define an encoding that includes the 02BE
02BF chars. I wrote an article on that, and I NEVER want to go back to
that again, ever :-)
Now we can do better, at least in LM. In MkIV, we simply:
\starttext
For Muslims, ʿišaʾ is the last prayer of the day.
For Muslims, {\em ʿišaʾ} is the last prayer of the day.
For Muslims, {\it ʿišaʾ} is the last prayer of the day.
\stoptext
The italics/slants look better, no need to fight with italic correction
etc. I use a transliteration keyboard on Windows that I can send you if
you like.
Anyway: It's time to switch to MkIV, my man :D
Best wishes
Idris
--
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shīʿī Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: [NTG-context] Arabic transliteration
On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:41:08 -0600, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For now, however, I will have to cobble a macro using hints that Mojca provided. By the way I am using Latin Modern (ec encoding). Have you checked the very latest Latin Modern? You should not need macros, since all Arabic transliteration chars are there now. If you really do need macros, I can send you my old Arabic transliteration macros and you can use/modify those for the effect you need. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Arabic transliteration
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: Many thanks, Idris and Mojca. If all goes well, I will move to luatex this summer---that really does seem to be the way to go---and then investigate XeTeX, which I gather is now functioning well with luatex. For now, however, I will have to cobble a macro using hints that Mojca provided. My hint(s) only work in XeTeX and LuaTeX. By the way I am using Latin Modern (ec encoding). With ec encoding you really need to do ugly things. You need to compose a character by more or less manually lowering the breve accent and take care for italic correction yourself. Not even accent primitive can be used for it. And you cannot use the combining accent after the character or the proper Unicode glyph (though the latter might be possible by patching some definition in ConTeXt core), you always need to use a macro. With XeTeX and LuaTeX all that comes (almost) for free. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Arabic transliteration
Ugly things indeed, Mojca. And even more so given my limited skills.
Here is what I have for “H” with a breve accent below.
\def\Hbrevebelow{H\smash{\lower1.9ex\hbox{\kern-3pt\llap{\char'010}}}
\kern3pt}
This only “works” in an italic environment by the way.
With apologies to the wizards on this list,
Alan
On May 14, 2008, at 13;17,49 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
Many thanks, Idris and Mojca.
If all goes well, I will move to luatex this summer---that really
does
seem to be the way to go---and then investigate XeTeX, which I gather
is now functioning well with luatex. For now, however, I will have to
cobble a macro using hints that Mojca provided.
My hint(s) only work in XeTeX and LuaTeX.
By the way I am using Latin Modern (ec encoding).
With ec encoding you really need to do ugly things. You need to
compose a character by more or less manually lowering the breve accent
and take care for italic correction yourself. Not even accent
primitive can be used for it. And you cannot use the combining accent
after the character or the proper Unicode glyph (though the latter
might be possible by patching some definition in ConTeXt core), you
always need to use a macro.
With XeTeX and LuaTeX all that comes (almost) for free.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Arabic transliteration
Hi, On Tue, 13 May 2008 15:53:17 -0600, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings! I am trying to typeset some transliterated Arabic and one of the diacritical marks is giving me a problem. How does one put what looks like a breve accent (a cup or concave arc) under an letter in ConTeXT? I used to use macros for that purpose, with the latest Latin Modern fonts you should have every Arabic transliteration character you need, including the arc under the h, ie, ḫ. In luatex you just type ḫ. Try it! Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Arabic transliteration
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: Greetings! I am trying to typeset some transliterated Arabic and one of the diacritical marks is giving me a problem. How does one put what looks like a breve accent (a cup or concave arc) under an letter in ConTeXT? Hello, First of all, it's nice if the font provides that character. Which fonts are you using for your document? I wanted to send you an example of how it can be done in different ways, but there seems to be in interesting problem with XeTeX at the moment, so I wasn't able to play with it. But in general: a) simply use character U+032E (combining breve below) It kind-of-works with LM, but not perfect (there has been some discussion about how to improve the behaviour of combining accents in LM) b) use character brevebelow from LM and use TeX to place the accent, see enco-ini.tex for examples Of course you can assign your own macro to either of the two options to access the accent more easily. Mojca brevebelow.tex Description: TeX document brevebelow.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Arabic transliteration
On Tue, 13 May 2008 16:24:02 -0600, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to send you an example of how it can be done in different ways, but there seems to be in interesting problem with XeTeX at the moment, so I wasn't able to play with it. But in general: a) simply use character U+032E (combining breve below) It kind-of-works with LM, but not perfect (there has been some discussion about how to improve the behaviour of combining accents in LM) The big problem with macros for this sort of thing is getting the italics right -- Arabic transliteration typically uses italics in running text. The macro will have to be adjusted (or an italic parameter changed) for every font. See [EMAIL PROTECTED] on page 356 of the TeXBook. Anyway, the Unicode 1E00--FF block has most of these problematic chars, and LM has incorporated the relevant ones. For other fonts, perhaps Hans could implement a combining command that gives an italics parameter option, though that will differ for regular, bold, etc... Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Arabic transliteration macros
Am 2005-10-15 um 22:11 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid: If there are any other suggestions or comments to improve or streamline this, please let me know. Please publish this in the wiki at Arabian or Arabian and Hebrew (as supposed) liked at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts (I don't know nothing about Arabian, but I'd like to see the list of non-latin scripts enhanced.) Grüßlis vom Hraban! --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
