Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
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I expect from users who want to use mkiv to have always a recent context
version on their system, in mkii i try to be compatible with older
versions
but this is not always possible.
Wolfgang
Am 16.05.2009 um 18:23 schrieb Mohamed Bana:
Hi Wolfgang,
Sorry to hassle you again, but I have a quick question. I'm using
Creator:ConTeXt - 2008.10.31 13:58
Producer: luaTeX-0.30.3
as a few things don't work with a recent release, and I get the
following errors;
! Undefined control sequence.
l.50 \setinterfacemessage
{simplefonts}{title}{simplefonts}
?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.51 \setinterfacemessage
{simplefonts}{1}{font -- not found}
?
Are they important? If not I'll simply ignore them with --batchmode.
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Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
Mohamed Bana wrote: Creator:ConTeXt - 2008.10.31 13:58 way too old for this - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
Hi Wolfgang,
Sorry to hassle you again, but I have a quick question. I'm using
Creator:ConTeXt - 2008.10.31 13:58
Producer: luaTeX-0.30.3
as a few things don't work with a recent release, and I get the
following errors;
! Undefined control sequence.
l.50 \setinterfacemessage
{simplefonts}{title}{simplefonts}
?
! Undefined control sequence.
l.51 \setinterfacemessage
{simplefonts}{1}{font -- not found}
?
Are they important? If not I'll simply ignore them with --batchmode.
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Hi all,
I wrote a new module to load fonts without the need to write typescripts
for them -> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/simplefonts/
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
Am 15.05.2009 um 21:36 schrieb Mohamed Bana: I got a chance to try it out; it's great. What I don't understand is that I need to use \starttext ... \stoptext, normally omitting these work. In your module's case I have to use it or it just typesets with L. Modern. \startcomponent first \productproject \environmentmy.env \starttext % I don't normally use this ... \stoptext \stopcomponent You don't need \starttext/\stoptext in your document, it would haven been enough to load the module and set the fonts before \startcomponent (have you noticed it works when you compile the project?) but this was expected and I fixed it. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
I got a chance to try it out; it's great. What I don't understand is that I need to use \starttext ... \stoptext, normally omitting these work. In your module's case I have to use it or it just typesets with L. Modern. \startcomponent first \productproject \environmentmy.env \starttext % I don't normally use this ... \stoptext \stopcomponent Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, I wrote a new module to load fonts without the need to write typescripts for them -> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/simplefonts/ Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
Am 11.05.2009 um 14:41 schrieb Yue Wang:
Hi Wolfgang:
nice script.
Can the module meet my needs discussed in
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/040831.html ?
or is it possible to extend the support to xetex?
When you take care about font switching in your module it's easy,
large part of the code can be left out because XeTeX can find the
regular/italic/... styles itself.
\unprotect
\def\setmainfont[#1]{\definetypeface[simplefonts][rm][Xserif][#1]
[default]}
\def\setsansfont[#1]{\definetypeface[simplefonts][ss][Xsans] [#1]
[default]}
\def\setmonofont[#1]{\definetypeface[simplefonts][tt][Xmono] [#1]
[default]}
\appendtoks\setupbodyfont[simplefonts]\to\everystarttext
\protect
\setmainfont[Times New Roman]
\setsansfont[Arial]
\setmonofont[Courier New]
\starttext
\rm\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic
\ss\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic
\tt\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
Am 11.05.2009 um 15:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: possible yes but it's a lot of work because the complete fallback mechanism needs to be written for XeTeX which is available for MkIV since a while. this is unlikely to happen (unless we add lots of optional code to mkii to deal with xetex which then probably results in a lot of other code hooked into other mechanisms as well) as mkii is kind of frozen Sorry Hans but my answer above has nothing to do with your code, I provided in my module a mechanism to set fonts in a similar way as the fontspec and xeCJK/zhspacing packages for LaTeX provide but *I* won't add extra code to use my module with XeTeX. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Yue Wang wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>
>>> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>>
possible yes but it's a lot of work because the complete fallback
mechanism
needs to be written for XeTeX which is available for MkIV since a while.
>>>
>>> this is unlikely to happen (unless we add lots of optional code to mkii
>>> to
>>> deal with xetex which then probably results in a lot of other code hooked
>>> into other mechanisms as well) as mkii is kind of frozen
>>>
>>> if we have to port all sophisticated (upcoming) mkiv features back to
>>> mkiv
>>> we might wonder why we started with mkiv in the first place; the whole
>>> idea
>>> is to have less (complex) code
>>
>>
>> not like that complicated (we do not need font fallback).
>>
>> it is only something about:
>>
>> save the current font style (like \ss, \it ,10pt) to a macro . then
>> apply the macro to a group.
>> for example
>>
>> aa { \anotherfont bb}
>> we should save the style for aa when \anotherfont is called, and apply
>> that style to bb.
>>
>> that should be enough. but we don't know how to get the font style.
>
> see \pushcurrentfont
Thank you, I will look into that.
Many thanks:)
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Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
Yue Wang wrote:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
possible yes but it's a lot of work because the complete fallback
mechanism
needs to be written for XeTeX which is available for MkIV since a while.
this is unlikely to happen (unless we add lots of optional code to mkii to
deal with xetex which then probably results in a lot of other code hooked
into other mechanisms as well) as mkii is kind of frozen
if we have to port all sophisticated (upcoming) mkiv features back to mkiv
we might wonder why we started with mkiv in the first place; the whole idea
is to have less (complex) code
not like that complicated (we do not need font fallback).
it is only something about:
save the current font style (like \ss, \it ,10pt) to a macro . then
apply the macro to a group.
for example
aa { \anotherfont bb}
we should save the style for aa when \anotherfont is called, and apply
that style to bb.
that should be enough. but we don't know how to get the font style.
see \pushcurrentfont
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Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> possible yes but it's a lot of work because the complete fallback
>> mechanism
>> needs to be written for XeTeX which is available for MkIV since a while.
>
> this is unlikely to happen (unless we add lots of optional code to mkii to
> deal with xetex which then probably results in a lot of other code hooked
> into other mechanisms as well) as mkii is kind of frozen
>
> if we have to port all sophisticated (upcoming) mkiv features back to mkiv
> we might wonder why we started with mkiv in the first place; the whole idea
> is to have less (complex) code
not like that complicated (we do not need font fallback).
it is only something about:
save the current font style (like \ss, \it ,10pt) to a macro . then
apply the macro to a group.
for example
aa { \anotherfont bb}
we should save the style for aa when \anotherfont is called, and apply
that style to bb.
that should be enough. but we don't know how to get the font style.
>
> Hans
>
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Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: possible yes but it's a lot of work because the complete fallback mechanism needs to be written for XeTeX which is available for MkIV since a while. this is unlikely to happen (unless we add lots of optional code to mkii to deal with xetex which then probably results in a lot of other code hooked into other mechanisms as well) as mkii is kind of frozen if we have to port all sophisticated (upcoming) mkiv features back to mkiv we might wonder why we started with mkiv in the first place; the whole idea is to have less (complex) code Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
wrote:
>
> Am 11.05.2009 um 14:41 schrieb Yue Wang:
>
>> Hi Wolfgang:
>>
>> nice script.
>>
>> Can the module meet my needs discussed in
>> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/040831.html ?
>
> dunno, i have to see more from your code
>
The code is already in http://code.google.com/p/ctex-kit/
It's located in /trunk/zhspacing/ directory. Thanks for reviewing.
The key idea is to group chinese words in {\zhfonts } automatically
using XeTeX's interchartok mechanism.
In LaTeX, It saves the current latin nfss style state in a macro, then
apply to the zhfonts group.
related code is in zhspacing/tex/latex/zhfont.sty. But I don't know
how to do that in ConTeXt.
>> or is it possible to extend the support to xetex?
>
> possible yes but it's a lot of work because the complete fallback mechanism
> needs to be written for XeTeX which is available for MkIV since a while.
>
> Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
Am 11.05.2009 um 15:18 schrieb Mohamed Bana: great! thanks Wolfgang. is this working with the latest minimals? Hopefully I'll get to try it later. Yes, it works with the last version but you have to install by hand. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Mohamed Bana wrote: > great! thanks Wolfgang. > > is this working with the latest minimals? Hopefully I'll get to try it > later. > Yes, I used it with latest beta for a whole afternoon. -- Best wishes, Li Yanrui ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
great! thanks Wolfgang. is this working with the latest minimals? Hopefully I'll get to try it later. Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, I wrote a new module to load fonts without the need to write typescripts for them -> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/simplefonts/ Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
Am 11.05.2009 um 14:41 schrieb Yue Wang: Hi Wolfgang: nice script. Can the module meet my needs discussed in http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/040831.html ? dunno, i have to see more from your code or is it possible to extend the support to xetex? possible yes but it's a lot of work because the complete fallback mechanism needs to be written for XeTeX which is available for MkIV since a while. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] New module - mkiv font loading
Hi Wolfgang: nice script. Can the module meet my needs discussed in http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/040831.html ? or is it possible to extend the support to xetex? Yue Wang On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > Hi all, > > I wrote a new module to load fonts without the need to write typescripts > for them -> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/simplefonts/ > > Wolfgang > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
