Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-09-06 Thread Hans Hagen

On 9/6/2013 7:04 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi Hans,

Thanks for this new feature for passing optional flags to the mkiv engine: I 
tested it on TeXShop and from a Terminal command line, and evrything works as 
expected.
I wikified your instructions,
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/purge_aux_files


thanks


but I wonder whether I chose the right title for that page (purge aux files).


sietse keeps an eye on such matters so unless he complains it's ok

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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-09-06 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Hans,

Thanks for this new feature for passing optional flags to the mkiv engine: I 
tested it on TeXShop and from a Terminal command line, and evrything works as 
expected.
I wikified your instructions,
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/purge_aux_files
but I wonder whether I chose the right title for that page (purge aux files).

Best regards: OK

On 4 sept. 2013, at 10:36, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 […]
 as an experiment i now also check the preamble for a ctxfile specification
 
 make a file preferences.ctx, put it someplace in the tree and run mtxrun 
 --generate:
 
 ?xml version='1.0' standalone='yes'?
 
 ctx:job
ctx:messagedefault flags/ctx:message
ctx:flags
ctx:flagpurge/ctx:flag
ctx:flagsynctex=zipped/ctx:flag
/ctx:flags
 /ctx:job
 
 then you can say:
 
 % ctxfile=preferences
 
 \starttext
  whatever
 \stoptext
 
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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-09-04 Thread Otared Kavian

On 3 sept. 2013, at 19:14, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:

 […]
 the synctex.gz file is not anymore deleted (however a utility file 
 [file-name].tuc remains).
 
 That (not deleting tuc file) is delebrate (as it saves time in successive 
 runs). If you want to delete the tuc file, you can use --purgeall instead of 
 --purge.

Thanks Aditya: actually that utility file .tuc can be deleted for some 
situations (for instance when one does a small test) and kept for others.
Maybe for those who do not use ConTeXt from a Terminal, but rather from editors 
like TeXShop or TeXWorks, one could have a feature to pass typesetting options 
to mkiv, for instance like a \setuptypesetting command, to be put in the first 
five lines of a document, which accepts various parameters such as for example
\setuptypesetting[purge=yes,synctex={yes,zipped},engine=mkiv]

to pass options to mkiv. But this is probably too complicated.

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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-09-04 Thread Hans Hagen

On 9/4/2013 9:05 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:


On 3 sept. 2013, at 19:14, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:


[…]
the synctex.gz file is not anymore deleted (however a utility file 
[file-name].tuc remains).


That (not deleting tuc file) is delebrate (as it saves time in successive 
runs). If you want to delete the tuc file, you can use --purgeall instead of 
--purge.


Thanks Aditya: actually that utility file .tuc can be deleted for some 
situations (for instance when one does a small test) and kept for others.
Maybe for those who do not use ConTeXt from a Terminal, but rather from editors 
like TeXShop or TeXWorks, one could have a feature to pass typesetting options 
to mkiv, for instance like a \setuptypesetting command, to be put in the first 
five lines of a document, which accepts various parameters such as for example
\setuptypesetting[purge=yes,synctex={yes,zipped},engine=mkiv]

to pass options to mkiv. But this is probably too complicated.


the job is already running and one needs tex to parse such commands

there are two ways (rather old features btw) to control a job:

- some directives can be given on the first line of a file

- you can make a jobname.ctx file (there are a few examples in the 
distribution)


the last one is the most flexible as there can be a file per job or a 
shared one


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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-09-04 Thread Hans Hagen

On 9/4/2013 9:05 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:


On 3 sept. 2013, at 19:14, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:


[…]
the synctex.gz file is not anymore deleted (however a utility file 
[file-name].tuc remains).


That (not deleting tuc file) is delebrate (as it saves time in successive 
runs). If you want to delete the tuc file, you can use --purgeall instead of 
--purge.


Thanks Aditya: actually that utility file .tuc can be deleted for some 
situations (for instance when one does a small test) and kept for others.
Maybe for those who do not use ConTeXt from a Terminal, but rather from editors 
like TeXShop or TeXWorks, one could have a feature to pass typesetting options 
to mkiv, for instance like a \setuptypesetting command, to be put in the first 
five lines of a document, which accepts various parameters such as for example
\setuptypesetting[purge=yes,synctex={yes,zipped},engine=mkiv]

to pass options to mkiv. But this is probably too complicated.


as an experiment i now also check the preamble for a ctxfile specification

make a file preferences.ctx, put it someplace in the tree and run 
mtxrun --generate:


?xml version='1.0' standalone='yes'?

ctx:job
ctx:messagedefault flags/ctx:message
ctx:flags
ctx:flagpurge/ctx:flag
ctx:flagsynctex=zipped/ctx:flag
/ctx:flags
/ctx:job

then you can say:

% ctxfile=preferences

\starttext
  whatever
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-09-03 Thread Otared Kavian

On 2 sept. 2013, at 23:44, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 9/2/2013 6:14 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 
(personnaly I add also
 rm -f *.tui *.log *.tuo *.xdv *.mp *.tmp *.top *-mpgraph.*
*-mpgraph-temp.dvi *.tuc
at the end of each of the files to remove auxiliary files, but you
must be careful with removing such files as *.mp…).
 
 --purge

Thanks Hans for your attention, but saying
texexec --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1 --purge

or
context --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1 --purge

removes also the synctex.gz file and one loses the synctex functionality which 
is essential for me.

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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-09-03 Thread Hans Hagen

On 9/3/2013 9:31 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:


On 2 sept. 2013, at 23:44, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


On 9/2/2013 6:14 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:


(personnaly I add also
 rm -f *.tui *.log *.tuo *.xdv *.mp *.tmp *.top *-mpgraph.*
*-mpgraph-temp.dvi *.tuc
at the end of each of the files to remove auxiliary files, but you
must be careful with removing such files as *.mp…).


--purge


Thanks Hans for your attention, but saying
texexec --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1 --purge

or
context --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1 --purge

removes also the synctex.gz file and one loses the synctex functionality which 
is essential for me.


i've added a test: if --synctex is given or the first line has

% synctex=zipped|unzipped|1|-1|yes

then the synctex file is not deleted

(not really tested as i never use synctex but it looks like it works ok)

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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-09-03 Thread Otared Kavian

On 3 sept. 2013, at 10:50, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 9/3/2013 9:31 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:
 […]
 Thanks Hans for your attention, but saying
  texexec --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1 --purge
 
 or
  context --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1 --purge
 
 removes also the synctex.gz file and one loses the synctex functionality 
 which is essential for me.
 
 i've added a test: if --synctex is given or the first line has
 
 % synctex=zipped|unzipped|1|-1|yes
 
 then the synctex file is not deleted

Hi Hans,

Thanks for the quick modification…
I tested the new beta, and indeed using mkiv and 
context --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1 --purge

the synctex.gz file is not anymore deleted (however a utility file 
[file-name].tuc remains).

I noticed also that using mkii and
texexec --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1 --purge

does delete the synctex.gz file, but this is expected since mkii is frozen and 
no change has effect ont it.

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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-09-02 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Alan,

Using TeXShop on MacOS X you can create two files named « mkiv-stable.engine » 
and « mkiv-testing.engine » and put them in the folder

Library/TeXShop/Engines

The first file « mkiv-stable.engine » contains the following:
#!/bin/bash

source [path-to-your-context-minimal-stable-folder]/tex/setuptex 
context --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1

and the second file « mkiv-testing.engine » contains
#!/bin/bash

source [path-to-your-context-minimal-testing-folder]/tex/setuptex 
context --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1

(personnaly I add also 
rm -f *.tui *.log *.tuo *.xdv *.mp *.tmp *.top *-mpgraph.* 
*-mpgraph-temp.dvi *.tuc
at the end of each of the files to remove auxiliary files, but you must be 
careful with removing such files as *.mp…).

Then when you open anew TeXShop, you'll see in a small menu on top of each of 
your TeX file where you can choose to typeset your file with either mkiv-stable 
or mkiv-testing.
Or you can add at the top of your TeX file the following line:
%!TEX TS-program = mkiv-stable
or
%!TEX TS-program = mkiv-testing

In case you would like to use mkii you should replace the line 
context --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1
with
texexec --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1
and create an engine file named « mkii.engine »
That's it.
I hope this would be useful to you.
Best regards: OK

On 31 août 2013, at 14:12, Alan Bowen bowenala...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would like to install two ConTeXt trees on my laptop, one for work in 
 progress and another for testing, and to run them using TeXShop (if that is 
 feasible).
 
 Are there any instructions for this? I have searched the wiki and TeXShop 
 help files but have not seen anything that indicates how to do this.
 
 I currently have a system-wide installation of the ConTeXt standalone.
 
 Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-09-02 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Otared! That is very helpful indeed. I now have access to each of
the ConTeXt trees via TeXShop—and a sensible way to explore why the ConTeXt
betas since August 5 have not worked so well with my files.

All best, Alan


On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alan,

 Using TeXShop on MacOS X you can create two files named «
 mkiv-stable.engine » and « mkiv-testing.engine » and put them in the folder

 Library/TeXShop/Engines

 The first file « mkiv-stable.engine » contains the following:
 #!/bin/bash

 source [path-to-your-context-minimal-stable-folder]/tex/setuptex
 context --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1

 and the second file « mkiv-testing.engine » contains
 #!/bin/bash

 source [path-to-your-context-minimal-testing-folder]/tex/setuptex
 context --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1

 (personnaly I add also
 rm -f *.tui *.log *.tuo *.xdv *.mp *.tmp *.top *-mpgraph.*
 *-mpgraph-temp.dvi *.tuc
 at the end of each of the files to remove auxiliary files, but you must be
 careful with removing such files as *.mp…).

 Then when you open anew TeXShop, you'll see in a small menu on top of each
 of your TeX file where you can choose to typeset your file with either
 mkiv-stable or mkiv-testing.
 Or you can add at the top of your TeX file the following line:
 %!TEX TS-program = mkiv-stable
 or
 %!TEX TS-program = mkiv-testing

 In case you would like to use mkii you should replace the line
 context --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1
 with
 texexec --autogenerate --synctex=1 $1
 and create an engine file named « mkii.engine »
 That's it.
 I hope this would be useful to you.
 Best regards: OK

 On 31 août 2013, at 14:12, Alan Bowen bowenala...@gmail.com wrote:

  I would like to install two ConTeXt trees on my laptop, one for work in
 progress and another for testing, and to run them using TeXShop (if that is
 feasible).
 
  Are there any instructions for this? I have searched the wiki and
 TeXShop help files but have not seen anything that indicates how to do this.
 
  I currently have a system-wide installation of the ConTeXt standalone.
 
  Alan
 
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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-09-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 9/2/2013 6:14 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:


(personnaly I add also
 rm -f *.tui *.log *.tuo *.xdv *.mp *.tmp *.top *-mpgraph.*
*-mpgraph-temp.dvi *.tuc
at the end of each of the files to remove auxiliary files, but you
must be careful with removing such files as *.mp…).


--purge

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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-08-31 Thread Hans Hagen

On 8/31/2013 2:12 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:

I would like to install two ConTeXt trees on my laptop, one for work in
progress and another for testing, and to run them using TeXShop (if that
is feasible).

Are there any instructions for this? I have searched the wiki and
TeXShop help files but have not seen anything that indicates how to do this.

I currently have a system-wide installation of the ConTeXt standalone.


assuming that mtxrun is not fundamentally changed you can try this:

mtxrun --tree=/data/context/tex  --script context yourfile.tex
mtxrun --tree=/data/context-beta/tex --script context yourfile.tex

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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-08-31 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Hans. That works from the command line as it should and will be a
great help.

Now to see if these trees can be accessed easily from TeXShop.

All best, Alan


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 8/31/2013 2:12 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:

 I would like to install two ConTeXt trees on my laptop, one for work in
 progress and another for testing, and to run them using TeXShop (if that
 is feasible).

 Are there any instructions for this? I have searched the wiki and
 TeXShop help files but have not seen anything that indicates how to do
 this.

 I currently have a system-wide installation of the ConTeXt standalone.


 assuming that mtxrun is not fundamentally changed you can try this:

 mtxrun --tree=/data/context/tex  --script context yourfile.tex
 mtxrun --tree=/data/context-beta/tex --script context yourfile.tex

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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-08-31 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013, Alan Bowen wrote:


I would like to install two ConTeXt trees on my laptop, one for work in
progress and another for testing, and to run them using TeXShop (if that is
feasible).

Are there any instructions for this? I have searched the wiki and TeXShop
help files but have not seen anything that indicates how to do this.


I routinely do this. Lets say you want to install two version of context, 
context-beta and context-stable. Then, download and copy first-setup.sh in 
both directories, and run:


   cd context-beta  first-setup
   cd context-stable  first-setup --context=current

Now, you can run

   source path-to-context-beta/tex/setuptex  context filename

to compile a file using context beta and

   source path-to-context-stable/tex/setptex  context filename

to compile a file using context stable.

Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-08-31 Thread Aditya Mahajan

Now to see if these trees can be accessed easily from TeXShop.


I don't use texshop, but does it allow you to change the command that is 
called when ConTeXt is clicked? If so, you can just create two new menu 
items with the appropriate commands.


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Re: [NTG-context] installing two ConTeXt trees

2013-08-31 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Aditya. This is very helpful.

Alan


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:

 On Sat, 31 Aug 2013, Alan Bowen wrote:

  I would like to install two ConTeXt trees on my laptop, one for work in
 progress and another for testing, and to run them using TeXShop (if that
 is
 feasible).

 Are there any instructions for this? I have searched the wiki and TeXShop
 help files but have not seen anything that indicates how to do this.


 I routinely do this. Lets say you want to install two version of context,
 context-beta and context-stable. Then, download and copy first-setup.sh in
 both directories, and run:

cd context-beta  first-setup
cd context-stable  first-setup --context=current

 Now, you can run

source path-to-context-beta/tex/**setuptex  context filename

 to compile a file using context beta and

source path-to-context-stable/tex/**setptex  context filename

 to compile a file using context stable.

 Aditya


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