Re: [NTG-context] xml parsing

2008-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 Hi all, Hans,
 
 this is a terribly inaccurate bug report, and I apologize for its  
 form, but it's something you and other people might want to look at.  
 Or maybe I should change my files, I don't know. Here comes:

in such cases you run into lookahead of macros; adding a \relax helps

\startxmlsetups xml:sln
\sln\relax
\stopxmlsetups

of so; let me know if this solves the problem


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Re: [NTG-context] xml parsing

2008-11-28 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Nov 28, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

 in such cases you run into lookahead of macros; adding a \relax helps

 \startxmlsetups xml:sln
   \sln\relax
 \stopxmlsetups

 of so; let me know if this solves the problem

Hi Hans,

thanks for answering this inaccurate report. No, adding \relax to the  
xmlsetup did not solve the problem. Maybe I should try grouping or  
sprinkling around \relax in other places of my definitions?


Just btw: I reported a similar problem this spring: 
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080324.212853.4a4abc6c.en.html

and realized later that again linebreaks are the culprit. From what I  
have understood, this is basically impossible: mkiv xml parsing uses  
the LPEG mechanism which doesn't see linebreaks as anything special.  
Nevertheless, I have these cases where introducing a linebreak makes  
elements from the xml tree disappear, removing it makes everything  
work. I'll keep an eye on it (and am aware that there may not be an  
immediate solution).

Best

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] xml parsing

2008-11-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi Thomas,

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all, Hans,

 this is a terribly inaccurate bug report, and I apologize for its
 form, but it's something you and other people might want to look at.
 Or maybe I should change my files, I don't know. Here comes:

 SUMMARY

 The new mkiv xml parser sometimes eats parts of my xml files when
 they are typeset. It appears to skip parts of text between two tags.

 DESCRIPTION

 I have no minimal example, just a description: for my lectures, I have
 defined a counter to tell me when I  want to show the next slide:

 \definelabel[SlideNumber][headstyle=normal,way=bytext]

 \define\sln{\color[red]{ [\nextSlideNumber]}}

 For my xml files, I have wrapped this into a xml command:

 \startxmlsetups xml:sln
\sln
 \stopxmlsetups

 This works wonderfully in most cases. To make my source file more
 readable, I usually code

 foo
 sln/
 bar

 In this case, the xml parser SOMETIMES (not reproducibly,
 unfortunately) skips the bar part up to the next paragraph p tag.
 When I take away the line break and write

 foo sln/ bar

 the bar part appears normally.

 ANECDOTE

 I write my lectures in xml so I can put them on a website for my
 students, and I deliver them from typeset notes. This happened to me
 last Tuesday. I had typeset and printed my notes, and then while
 lecturing realized that an entire paragraph was missing. I could ad-
 lib it, but this is not something you want to happen at an important
 job-talk...

I don't if this will help you but you can try the following three changes.


1. Change the defintion of \sln

\define\sln{\startcolor[red][\nextSlideNumber]\stopcolor}


2. Put a \relax after the xml setup for \sln

\startxmlsetups xml:sln
   \sln\relax
\stopxmlsetups


3. define \SlideNumber as TeX counter

\newcount\SlideNumber

\def\resetSlideNumber
  {\global\SlideNumber\zerocount\relax}

\def\incrementSlideNumber
  {\global\advance\SlideNumber\plusone\relax}

\def\currentSlideNumber
  {\number\SlideNumber\relax}

\def\nextSlideNumber
  {\incrementSlideNumber
   \currentSlideNumber}


(4. Switch the system or TeX installation, helped on my former
Windows installation with font problems)


Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] xml parsing

2008-11-28 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Nov 28, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 I don't if this will help you but you can try the following three  
 changes.


 1. Change the defintion of \sln

 \define\sln{\startcolor[red][\nextSlideNumber]\stopcolor}


 2. Put a \relax after the xml setup for \sln

 \startxmlsetups xml:sln
   \sln\relax
 \stopxmlsetups


 3. define \SlideNumber as TeX counter

 \newcount\SlideNumber

 \def\resetSlideNumber
  {\global\SlideNumber\zerocount\relax}

 \def\incrementSlideNumber
  {\global\advance\SlideNumber\plusone\relax}

 \def\currentSlideNumber
  {\number\SlideNumber\relax}

 \def\nextSlideNumber
  {\incrementSlideNumber
   \currentSlideNumber}


 (4. Switch the system or TeX installation, helped on my former
 Windows installation with font problems)


 Wolfgang

Hi Wolfgang,

thanks for your suggestions! I tried solutions 1-3, but I still get  
the same result; the paragraph is skipped (hey, what about #3: are you  
leading me into temptation to use low-level code?!). #4: I have tried  
both the minimals and a fully updated TeXLive on OS X; I will tomorrow  
check if the same thing happens on my linux installation.  
Unfortunately, the file is pretty long and contains some additional  
modules and fonts, or I'd send it to you to see if it compiles OK on  
your installation (though: could I imagine switching to Windows? No, I  
couldn't...)

All best, and thanks a lot

Thomas

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Re: [NTG-context] xml parsing

2008-11-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Nov 28, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 I don't if this will help you but you can try the following three
 changes.


 1. Change the defintion of \sln

 \define\sln{\startcolor[red][\nextSlideNumber]\stopcolor}


 2. Put a \relax after the xml setup for \sln

 \startxmlsetups xml:sln
   \sln\relax
 \stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups xml:sln
  \sln\space\ignorespaces
\stopxmlsetups

 3. define \SlideNumber as TeX counter

 \newcount\SlideNumber

 \def\resetSlideNumber
  {\global\SlideNumber\zerocount\relax}

 \def\incrementSlideNumber
  {\global\advance\SlideNumber\plusone\relax}

 \def\currentSlideNumber
  {\number\SlideNumber\relax}

 \def\nextSlideNumber
  {\incrementSlideNumber
   \currentSlideNumber}


 (4. Switch the system or TeX installation, helped on my former
 Windows installation with font problems)


 Wolfgang

 Hi Wolfgang,

 thanks for your suggestions! I tried solutions 1-3, but I still get
 the same result; the paragraph is skipped (hey, what about #3: are you
 leading me into temptation to use low-level code?!).

There is nothing wrong with low level code if you know what you do
*and* counters are faster (but you won't notice the difference here :)

 #4: I have tried
 both the minimals and a fully updated TeXLive on OS X; I will tomorrow
 check if the same thing happens on my linux installation.
 Unfortunately, the file is pretty long and contains some additional
 modules and fonts, or I'd send it to you to see if it compiles OK on
 your installation (though: could I imagine switching to Windows? No, I
 couldn't...)

You could send me your files. I switched from windows to Mac
and most of my problems disappeared.

Wolfgang
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