RE: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

2017-05-27 Thread Charles F Sullivan
Sounds like you are referring to the issue where RSS Scaling is enabled,
which by default is disabled on individual Windows NICs. I believe all the
problem does is make the performance the same as if didn't have RSS
Scaling enabled. In any case, VMware just came out with a new version of
the Tools that resolves the issue.

Even if your VM is not being affected, you may want to get the new version
of the Tools, install them and set RSS Scaling on the NIC. It's supposed
to make a big performance difference, though obviously any other issues
you have may override that. Still probably worth trying.

I've just begun to do that on servers where app owners say they need
better network performance and so far I've only been able to do 2 or 3 due
to the required reboot.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jack Kramer
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:53 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

VMXNET3 adapter? There's a bug I'm halfway remembering with the
paravirtualized driver, 10.x tools branch, and multi-core guest VMs.
Perhaps you're running into that?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
> I'm on the phone with MSFT now.
>
> I'll update y'all once I know more.
>
> Kurt
>
>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:
>> Time for netmon/wireshark.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:09 PM
>> To: ntsysadm
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs.
>> write
>>
>> Multiple workstations. I've migrated the file server to different hosts
(5 in the cluster), and it doesn't seem to make a difference.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:17 PM, elsalvoz  wrote:
>>> One, multiple or all workstations? How about server on different
>>> host or physicals?
>>>
>>> Cesar A.
>>>
>>>> On May 26, 2017 2:10 PM, "Michael B. Smith" 
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Without a trace I can't be sure. But it seems likely.
>>>>
>>>> Have you also verified that the link is negotiating to the highest
>>>> speed available and that it is error free?
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>>>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:04 PM
>>>> To: ntsysadm
>>>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs.
>>>> write
>>>>
>>>> No, we have not. It's required for some older machines.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, the client's I'm testing with are Win10 1607.
>>>>
>>>> I presume that your implication is that turning it off would speed
>>>> things up?
>>>>
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Michael B. Smith
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Have you disabled smb1?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>>>>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:20 PM
>>>>> To: ntsysadm
>>>>> Subject: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs.
>>>>> write
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a 2012R2 file server running as a VM on vSphere 6.0.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what I'm seeing:
>>>>>
>>>>> Copy large file (win7 ISO) from file server to workstation, I get
>>>>> roughly 12-13Mbytes/second, wired or wireless.
>>>>>
>>>>> Copy that file from workstation to server over a wireless
>>>>> connection, same speed - 12-13Mbytes/second
>>>>>
>>>>> Copy that file from workstation to server over wired connection,
>>>>> speed degrades to 1Mbyte/second or less
>>>>>
>>>>> Copy that file to another 2012R2 VM on the same host on the same
>>>>> SAN volume (our print server), and speeds are 12-13Mbytes/second
>>>>> for both wired and wireless.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've made sure that the following are disabled: RSS, atime, 8.3
>>>>> filename generation, TCP Chimney.
>>>>>
>>>>> RAM and CPU utilization on this machine are well within limits.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thoroughly stumped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have pointers for me? I'm about to raise a case with MSFT.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

2017-05-26 Thread Jack Kramer
VMXNET3 adapter? There's a bug I'm halfway remembering with the paravirtualized 
driver, 10.x tools branch, and multi-core guest VMs. Perhaps you're running 
into that?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> 
> I'm on the phone with MSFT now.
> 
> I'll update y'all once I know more.
> 
> Kurt
> 
>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Michael B. Smith  
>> wrote:
>> Time for netmon/wireshark.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:09 PM
>> To: ntsysadm
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write
>> 
>> Multiple workstations. I've migrated the file server to different hosts (5 
>> in the cluster), and it doesn't seem to make a difference.
>> 
>> Kurt
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:17 PM, elsalvoz  wrote:
>>> One, multiple or all workstations? How about server on different host
>>> or physicals?
>>> 
>>> Cesar A.
>>> 
>>>> On May 26, 2017 2:10 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Without a trace I can't be sure. But it seems likely.
>>>> 
>>>> Have you also verified that the link is negotiating to the highest
>>>> speed available and that it is error free?
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>>>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:04 PM
>>>> To: ntsysadm
>>>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs.
>>>> write
>>>> 
>>>> No, we have not. It's required for some older machines.
>>>> 
>>>> FWIW, the client's I'm testing with are Win10 1607.
>>>> 
>>>> I presume that your implication is that turning it off would speed
>>>> things up?
>>>> 
>>>> Kurt
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Michael B. Smith
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Have you disabled smb1?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>>>>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:20 PM
>>>>> To: ntsysadm
>>>>> Subject: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs.
>>>>> write
>>>>> 
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a 2012R2 file server running as a VM on vSphere 6.0.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's what I'm seeing:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Copy large file (win7 ISO) from file server to workstation, I get
>>>>> roughly 12-13Mbytes/second, wired or wireless.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Copy that file from workstation to server over a wireless
>>>>> connection, same speed - 12-13Mbytes/second
>>>>> 
>>>>> Copy that file from workstation to server over wired connection,
>>>>> speed degrades to 1Mbyte/second or less
>>>>> 
>>>>> Copy that file to another 2012R2 VM on the same host on the same
>>>>> SAN volume (our print server), and speeds are 12-13Mbytes/second
>>>>> for both wired and wireless.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've made sure that the following are disabled: RSS, atime, 8.3
>>>>> filename generation, TCP Chimney.
>>>>> 
>>>>> RAM and CPU utilization on this machine are well within limits.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm thoroughly stumped.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone have pointers for me? I'm about to raise a case with MSFT.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kurt
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 




Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

2017-05-26 Thread elsalvoz
Please, that's a good one.

Cesar A.

On May 26, 2017 4:10 PM, "Kurt Buff"  wrote:

> I'm on the phone with MSFT now.
>
> I'll update y'all once I know more.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
> > Time for netmon/wireshark.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:09 PM
> > To: ntsysadm
> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write
> >
> > Multiple workstations. I've migrated the file server to different hosts
> (5 in the cluster), and it doesn't seem to make a difference.
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:17 PM, elsalvoz  wrote:
> >> One, multiple or all workstations? How about server on different host
> >> or physicals?
> >>
> >> Cesar A.
> >>
> >> On May 26, 2017 2:10 PM, "Michael B. Smith" 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Without a trace I can't be sure. But it seems likely.
> >>>
> >>> Have you also verified that the link is negotiating to the highest
> >>> speed available and that it is error free?
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
> >>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:04 PM
> >>> To: ntsysadm
> >>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs.
> >>> write
> >>>
> >>> No, we have not. It's required for some older machines.
> >>>
> >>> FWIW, the client's I'm testing with are Win10 1607.
> >>>
> >>> I presume that your implication is that turning it off would speed
> >>> things up?
> >>>
> >>> Kurt
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Michael B. Smith
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Have you disabled smb1?
> >>> >
> >>> > -Original Message-
> >>> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
> >>> > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> >>> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:20 PM
> >>> > To: ntsysadm
> >>> > Subject: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs.
> >>> > write
> >>> >
> >>> > All,
> >>> >
> >>> > I have a 2012R2 file server running as a VM on vSphere 6.0.
> >>> >
> >>> > Here's what I'm seeing:
> >>> >
> >>> > Copy large file (win7 ISO) from file server to workstation, I get
> >>> > roughly 12-13Mbytes/second, wired or wireless.
> >>> >
> >>> > Copy that file from workstation to server over a wireless
> >>> > connection, same speed - 12-13Mbytes/second
> >>> >
> >>> > Copy that file from workstation to server over wired connection,
> >>> > speed degrades to 1Mbyte/second or less
> >>> >
> >>> > Copy that file to another 2012R2 VM on the same host on the same
> >>> > SAN volume (our print server), and speeds are 12-13Mbytes/second
> >>> > for both wired and wireless.
> >>> >
> >>> > I've made sure that the following are disabled: RSS, atime, 8.3
> >>> > filename generation, TCP Chimney.
> >>> >
> >>> > RAM and CPU utilization on this machine are well within limits.
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm thoroughly stumped.
> >>> >
> >>> > Anyone have pointers for me? I'm about to raise a case with MSFT.
> >>> >
> >>> > Kurt
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>



Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

2017-05-26 Thread Kurt Buff
I'm on the phone with MSFT now.

I'll update y'all once I know more.

Kurt

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
> Time for netmon/wireshark.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:09 PM
> To: ntsysadm
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write
>
> Multiple workstations. I've migrated the file server to different hosts (5 in 
> the cluster), and it doesn't seem to make a difference.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:17 PM, elsalvoz  wrote:
>> One, multiple or all workstations? How about server on different host
>> or physicals?
>>
>> Cesar A.
>>
>> On May 26, 2017 2:10 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Without a trace I can't be sure. But it seems likely.
>>>
>>> Have you also verified that the link is negotiating to the highest
>>> speed available and that it is error free?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:04 PM
>>> To: ntsysadm
>>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs.
>>> write
>>>
>>> No, we have not. It's required for some older machines.
>>>
>>> FWIW, the client's I'm testing with are Win10 1607.
>>>
>>> I presume that your implication is that turning it off would speed
>>> things up?
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Michael B. Smith
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Have you disabled smb1?
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>>> > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:20 PM
>>> > To: ntsysadm
>>> > Subject: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs.
>>> > write
>>> >
>>> > All,
>>> >
>>> > I have a 2012R2 file server running as a VM on vSphere 6.0.
>>> >
>>> > Here's what I'm seeing:
>>> >
>>> > Copy large file (win7 ISO) from file server to workstation, I get
>>> > roughly 12-13Mbytes/second, wired or wireless.
>>> >
>>> > Copy that file from workstation to server over a wireless
>>> > connection, same speed - 12-13Mbytes/second
>>> >
>>> > Copy that file from workstation to server over wired connection,
>>> > speed degrades to 1Mbyte/second or less
>>> >
>>> > Copy that file to another 2012R2 VM on the same host on the same
>>> > SAN volume (our print server), and speeds are 12-13Mbytes/second
>>> > for both wired and wireless.
>>> >
>>> > I've made sure that the following are disabled: RSS, atime, 8.3
>>> > filename generation, TCP Chimney.
>>> >
>>> > RAM and CPU utilization on this machine are well within limits.
>>> >
>>> > I'm thoroughly stumped.
>>> >
>>> > Anyone have pointers for me? I'm about to raise a case with MSFT.
>>> >
>>> > Kurt
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>




RE: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

2017-05-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
Time for netmon/wireshark.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:09 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

Multiple workstations. I've migrated the file server to different hosts (5 in 
the cluster), and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

Kurt

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:17 PM, elsalvoz  wrote:
> One, multiple or all workstations? How about server on different host 
> or physicals?
>
> Cesar A.
>
> On May 26, 2017 2:10 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:
>>
>> Without a trace I can't be sure. But it seems likely.
>>
>> Have you also verified that the link is negotiating to the highest 
>> speed available and that it is error free?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:04 PM
>> To: ntsysadm
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. 
>> write
>>
>> No, we have not. It's required for some older machines.
>>
>> FWIW, the client's I'm testing with are Win10 1607.
>>
>> I presume that your implication is that turning it off would speed 
>> things up?
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Michael B. Smith 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> > Have you disabled smb1?
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
>> > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:20 PM
>> > To: ntsysadm
>> > Subject: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. 
>> > write
>> >
>> > All,
>> >
>> > I have a 2012R2 file server running as a VM on vSphere 6.0.
>> >
>> > Here's what I'm seeing:
>> >
>> > Copy large file (win7 ISO) from file server to workstation, I get 
>> > roughly 12-13Mbytes/second, wired or wireless.
>> >
>> > Copy that file from workstation to server over a wireless 
>> > connection, same speed - 12-13Mbytes/second
>> >
>> > Copy that file from workstation to server over wired connection, 
>> > speed degrades to 1Mbyte/second or less
>> >
>> > Copy that file to another 2012R2 VM on the same host on the same 
>> > SAN volume (our print server), and speeds are 12-13Mbytes/second 
>> > for both wired and wireless.
>> >
>> > I've made sure that the following are disabled: RSS, atime, 8.3 
>> > filename generation, TCP Chimney.
>> >
>> > RAM and CPU utilization on this machine are well within limits.
>> >
>> > I'm thoroughly stumped.
>> >
>> > Anyone have pointers for me? I'm about to raise a case with MSFT.
>> >
>> > Kurt
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>




Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

2017-05-26 Thread Kurt Buff
Multiple workstations. I've migrated the file server to different
hosts (5 in the cluster), and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

Kurt

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:17 PM, elsalvoz  wrote:
> One, multiple or all workstations? How about server on different host or
> physicals?
>
> Cesar A.
>
> On May 26, 2017 2:10 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:
>>
>> Without a trace I can't be sure. But it seems likely.
>>
>> Have you also verified that the link is negotiating to the highest speed
>> available and that it is error free?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:04 PM
>> To: ntsysadm
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write
>>
>> No, we have not. It's required for some older machines.
>>
>> FWIW, the client's I'm testing with are Win10 1607.
>>
>> I presume that your implication is that turning it off would speed things
>> up?
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Michael B. Smith 
>> wrote:
>> > Have you disabled smb1?
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>> > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:20 PM
>> > To: ntsysadm
>> > Subject: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write
>> >
>> > All,
>> >
>> > I have a 2012R2 file server running as a VM on vSphere 6.0.
>> >
>> > Here's what I'm seeing:
>> >
>> > Copy large file (win7 ISO) from file server to workstation, I get
>> > roughly 12-13Mbytes/second, wired or wireless.
>> >
>> > Copy that file from workstation to server over a wireless connection,
>> > same speed - 12-13Mbytes/second
>> >
>> > Copy that file from workstation to server over wired connection, speed
>> > degrades to 1Mbyte/second or less
>> >
>> > Copy that file to another 2012R2 VM on the same host on the same SAN
>> > volume (our print server), and speeds are 12-13Mbytes/second for both wired
>> > and wireless.
>> >
>> > I've made sure that the following are disabled: RSS, atime, 8.3 filename
>> > generation, TCP Chimney.
>> >
>> > RAM and CPU utilization on this machine are well within limits.
>> >
>> > I'm thoroughly stumped.
>> >
>> > Anyone have pointers for me? I'm about to raise a case with MSFT.
>> >
>> > Kurt
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>




Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

2017-05-26 Thread Kurt Buff
Indirectly, yes...

I've tried this against our print server, on the same host, and the
speeds are very acceptable, both wired and wireless.

It's just the file server that is giving me this problem.

One of the machines I've tried this from is a laptop that sits outside
our firewall, on the same switch, - it's consuming one of our public
IPs, getting internal access via DirectAccess. Same behavior - slow
writes to file server, acceptable writes to print server.

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
> Without a trace I can't be sure. But it seems likely.
>
> Have you also verified that the link is negotiating to the highest speed 
> available and that it is error free?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:04 PM
> To: ntsysadm
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write
>
> No, we have not. It's required for some older machines.
>
> FWIW, the client's I'm testing with are Win10 1607.
>
> I presume that your implication is that turning it off would speed things up?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Michael B. Smith  
> wrote:
>> Have you disabled smb1?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:20 PM
>> To: ntsysadm
>> Subject: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I have a 2012R2 file server running as a VM on vSphere 6.0.
>>
>> Here's what I'm seeing:
>>
>> Copy large file (win7 ISO) from file server to workstation, I get roughly 
>> 12-13Mbytes/second, wired or wireless.
>>
>> Copy that file from workstation to server over a wireless connection,
>> same speed - 12-13Mbytes/second
>>
>> Copy that file from workstation to server over wired connection, speed
>> degrades to 1Mbyte/second or less
>>
>> Copy that file to another 2012R2 VM on the same host on the same SAN volume 
>> (our print server), and speeds are 12-13Mbytes/second for both wired and 
>> wireless.
>>
>> I've made sure that the following are disabled: RSS, atime, 8.3 filename 
>> generation, TCP Chimney.
>>
>> RAM and CPU utilization on this machine are well within limits.
>>
>> I'm thoroughly stumped.
>>
>> Anyone have pointers for me? I'm about to raise a case with MSFT.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>
>




RE: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

2017-05-26 Thread elsalvoz
One, multiple or all workstations? How about server on different host or
physicals?

Cesar A.

On May 26, 2017 2:10 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:

> Without a trace I can't be sure. But it seems likely.
>
> Have you also verified that the link is negotiating to the highest speed
> available and that it is error free?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:04 PM
> To: ntsysadm
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write
>
> No, we have not. It's required for some older machines.
>
> FWIW, the client's I'm testing with are Win10 1607.
>
> I presume that your implication is that turning it off would speed things
> up?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
> > Have you disabled smb1?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
> > [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:20 PM
> > To: ntsysadm
> > Subject: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I have a 2012R2 file server running as a VM on vSphere 6.0.
> >
> > Here's what I'm seeing:
> >
> > Copy large file (win7 ISO) from file server to workstation, I get
> roughly 12-13Mbytes/second, wired or wireless.
> >
> > Copy that file from workstation to server over a wireless connection,
> > same speed - 12-13Mbytes/second
> >
> > Copy that file from workstation to server over wired connection, speed
> > degrades to 1Mbyte/second or less
> >
> > Copy that file to another 2012R2 VM on the same host on the same SAN
> volume (our print server), and speeds are 12-13Mbytes/second for both wired
> and wireless.
> >
> > I've made sure that the following are disabled: RSS, atime, 8.3 filename
> generation, TCP Chimney.
> >
> > RAM and CPU utilization on this machine are well within limits.
> >
> > I'm thoroughly stumped.
> >
> > Anyone have pointers for me? I'm about to raise a case with MSFT.
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> >
>
>
>



RE: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

2017-05-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
Without a trace I can't be sure. But it seems likely.

Have you also verified that the link is negotiating to the highest speed 
available and that it is error free?

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:04 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

No, we have not. It's required for some older machines.

FWIW, the client's I'm testing with are Win10 1607.

I presume that your implication is that turning it off would speed things up?

Kurt

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Michael B. Smith  
wrote:
> Have you disabled smb1?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:20 PM
> To: ntsysadm
> Subject: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write
>
> All,
>
> I have a 2012R2 file server running as a VM on vSphere 6.0.
>
> Here's what I'm seeing:
>
> Copy large file (win7 ISO) from file server to workstation, I get roughly 
> 12-13Mbytes/second, wired or wireless.
>
> Copy that file from workstation to server over a wireless connection, 
> same speed - 12-13Mbytes/second
>
> Copy that file from workstation to server over wired connection, speed 
> degrades to 1Mbyte/second or less
>
> Copy that file to another 2012R2 VM on the same host on the same SAN volume 
> (our print server), and speeds are 12-13Mbytes/second for both wired and 
> wireless.
>
> I've made sure that the following are disabled: RSS, atime, 8.3 filename 
> generation, TCP Chimney.
>
> RAM and CPU utilization on this machine are well within limits.
>
> I'm thoroughly stumped.
>
> Anyone have pointers for me? I'm about to raise a case with MSFT.
>
> Kurt
>
>




Re: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

2017-05-26 Thread Kurt Buff
No, we have not. It's required for some older machines.

FWIW, the client's I'm testing with are Win10 1607.

I presume that your implication is that turning it off would speed things up?

Kurt

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:
> Have you disabled smb1?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:20 PM
> To: ntsysadm
> Subject: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write
>
> All,
>
> I have a 2012R2 file server running as a VM on vSphere 6.0.
>
> Here's what I'm seeing:
>
> Copy large file (win7 ISO) from file server to workstation, I get roughly 
> 12-13Mbytes/second, wired or wireless.
>
> Copy that file from workstation to server over a wireless connection, same 
> speed - 12-13Mbytes/second
>
> Copy that file from workstation to server over wired connection, speed 
> degrades to 1Mbyte/second or less
>
> Copy that file to another 2012R2 VM on the same host on the same SAN volume 
> (our print server), and speeds are 12-13Mbytes/second for both wired and 
> wireless.
>
> I've made sure that the following are disabled: RSS, atime, 8.3 filename 
> generation, TCP Chimney.
>
> RAM and CPU utilization on this machine are well within limits.
>
> I'm thoroughly stumped.
>
> Anyone have pointers for me? I'm about to raise a case with MSFT.
>
> Kurt
>
>




RE: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

2017-05-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
Have you disabled smb1?

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:20 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: [NTSysADM] Very strange problem file server - read vs. write

All,

I have a 2012R2 file server running as a VM on vSphere 6.0.

Here's what I'm seeing:

Copy large file (win7 ISO) from file server to workstation, I get roughly 
12-13Mbytes/second, wired or wireless.

Copy that file from workstation to server over a wireless connection, same 
speed - 12-13Mbytes/second

Copy that file from workstation to server over wired connection, speed degrades 
to 1Mbyte/second or less

Copy that file to another 2012R2 VM on the same host on the same SAN volume 
(our print server), and speeds are 12-13Mbytes/second for both wired and 
wireless.

I've made sure that the following are disabled: RSS, atime, 8.3 filename 
generation, TCP Chimney.

RAM and CPU utilization on this machine are well within limits.

I'm thoroughly stumped.

Anyone have pointers for me? I'm about to raise a case with MSFT.

Kurt