RE: Security by obscurity?
Further comments from my SE's: The main difference is that if you go to: http://hostname.domain (which is all that script kiddies would find), there is no login prompt.No login prompt = no brute force attacks. Having the IP does nothing for you in this case. So Michael, what do you recommend for your clients? Dave From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Security by obscurity? you can manipulate these to whereever/whatever you want. they must be valid, insofar as DNS is concerned - but exchange doesn't care. From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Security by obscurity? And if you use autodiscovery, won't people be able to figure this out anyway? Unless Outlook Anywhere clients go to somewhere else other than where you are hosting OWA. Cheers Ken From: Tim Vander Kooi [tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 8:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Security by obscurity? This all begs the question of why mail.company.com/exchange would be considered any more obscure/secure than obscure.company.com? With the second being at least a shorter entry for users to type when accessing the site. TVK -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Security by obscurity? On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:42 PM, David Lumdavid@nwea.org wrote: I am having a discussion with some of my fellow SE's, they think having OWA's address be hostname.domain.com/exchange instead of mail.companyname.com for security by obscurity reasons. It's all about risk management. What specific threat does having a different name for OWA counter? How effective will that countermeasure be? What will it cost you? As Bill Songstad says, script kiddies scan for IP addresses, and a directed attacker will probabbly be able to do the research needed to figure things out. Worms and other undirected, automated threats also use IP addresses. The only thing I can think of that this might help would be to reduce noise from casual intrusion attempts. For example, if you're giantcompany.com, you might want your webmail on obscure.giantcompany.com instead of mail.giantcompany.com, just to reduce the log noise from random people trying the typical name. It's akin to turning down the vibration sensitivity in your car alarm because you don't want it waking you up in the night just because somebody tried the handle, found it locked, and moved on. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: TechNet Plus
OK - Im convined, 199 quid for what i want is nothing really. Ill create a new ID over the weekend and report back to let you know if it worked and what hurdles you now have to go through. Gavin. Len Hammond wrote: Do it - you won't regret it. Did the test earlier this year. There is a bit of a training session available to prepare you for the test. I didn't find the help until after I took the test the first time and missed one too many. Spent the hour with the training piece and aced the test the second time. Really not a bad way to qualify for the Action Pack. I went for the Action Pack because I need to support Vista and wanted to put Vista on my desk machine and by the time I got the Action Pack, Win 7RC was out, so I left XP on my desk machine and put W7 on the laptop. Len Hammond CSI:Hartland lenhamm...@gmail.com mailto:lenhamm...@gmail.com On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org mailto:david@nwea.org wrote: +1 Exactly. If you do consulting and charge money for it you are eligible. Nowadays you have to take a test first before you get the Action Pack, but I haven’t had to do that for my renewal yet so I can’t say how hard the test is… Dave *From:* David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:09 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: TechNet Plus That's true. But if you do any consulting or outside work at all, you are eligible. David On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Peter van Houten peter...@gmail.com mailto:peter...@gmail.com wrote: Action Pack software is not provided for personal use, for hosting customer applications, or for installation at a customer site. It cannot be used, for example, to host a commercial website; this is considered a production environment outside the scope of the software's intended purpose. From the end of this page: https://partner.microsoft.com/UK/program/managemembership/actionpack/mapslicensing -- Peter van Houten On the 16/07/2009 21:55, Gavin Wilby wrote the following: Is it easy enough to get for myself - bear in mind the company I work for also gets it... David Lum wrote: Microsoft Action Pack...worth every penny... Dave -Original Message- From: Gavin Wilby [mailto:gavin.wi...@gmail.com mailto:gavin.wi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: TechNet Plus Im struggling to find an easy/ cheap way to get a SBS2008 server for home use. If I go for TechNet Plus will that give me a full license of said product to use for personal use? Or is it all trialware? Gavin. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- David _ I've learned that you can tell a lot about a person by the way he/she handles four things: A rainy day, the elderly, lost luggage, and tangled Christmas tree lights. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Gimp 2009/7/16 Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. -- Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. http://raythestray.blogspot.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
LDAP Help
Hi all, my LDAP is poor so apologies if this is a relatively div questions. The network I am working on has an AD that has not been looked after properly over the years, servers and desktops were simply shut off, and not properly removed from AD, so there are over 5000 computer objects floating around in an environment that has under 2000 live hosts. I would like to construct an LDAP search that will display all the machines which have not talked to a domain controller in over say 3 months, and I have no idea how to syntax the query, or what attributes to reference in the query to ul,l the information out. Any help will be greatly appreciated (Windows 2003 domain) Many thanks in advance Clayton ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: LDAP Help
Happy to give you a query, but this tool does everything you need (AFAICT): http://www.joeware.net/freetools/tools/oldcmp/index.htm Cheers Ken From: Clayton Doige [clayton.do...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 7:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: LDAP Help Hi all, my LDAP is poor so apologies if this is a relatively div questions. The network I am working on has an AD that has not been looked after properly over the years, servers and desktops were simply shut off, and not properly removed from AD, so there are over 5000 computer objects floating around in an environment that has under 2000 live hosts. I would like to construct an LDAP search that will display all the machines which have not talked to a domain controller in over say 3 months, and I have no idea how to syntax the query, or what attributes to reference in the query to ul,l the information out. Any help will be greatly appreciated (Windows 2003 domain) Many thanks in advance Clayton ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: LDAP Help
+1 Oldcmp is the proverbial mutt's nuts for this problem 2009/7/17 Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com Happy to give you a query, but this tool does everything you need (AFAICT): http://www.joeware.net/freetools/tools/oldcmp/index.htm Cheers Ken -- *From:* Clayton Doige [clayton.do...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, 17 July 2009 7:42 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* LDAP Help Hi all, my LDAP is poor so apologies if this is a relatively div questions. The network I am working on has an AD that has not been looked after properly over the years, servers and desktops were simply shut off, and not properly removed from AD, so there are over 5000 computer objects floating around in an environment that has under 2000 live hosts. I would like to construct an LDAP search that will display all the machines which have not talked to a domain controller in over say 3 months, and I have no idea how to syntax the query, or what attributes to reference in the query to ul,l the information out. Any help will be greatly appreciated (Windows 2003 domain) Many thanks in advance Clayton -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. http://raythestray.blogspot.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: where in the GPO?
How long have you waited for the GPO to take effect? Have the computers been rebooted or have you performed a gpupdate /force? Do you have a slow network? Which group are you linking it to? Great utility for performing a gpupdate across the board: http://www.specopssoft.com/products/specopsgpupdate/ If you at some point set it then it will stay set. A Preference is just that your (as the administrator) preference. If you put it into the other one then it is no longer a Preference and it becomes part of the bible for that OS. Jon On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Weatherford, Chad cweatherf...@scvl.com wrote: I have it configured as you do and it is not making the change I do have Connection in 'preference mode' Chad Weatherford | Network/Security Administrator | Shoe Carnival, Inc. | 812.867.8314 | cweatherf...@scvl.com From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: where in the GPO? Do you mean you have that configured and it's not working , or you don't see it? This is what it should look like: Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From: Weatherford, Chad [mailto:cweatherf...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: where in the GPO? I have tried that.no dice Chad Weatherford | Network/Security Administrator | Shoe Carnival, Inc. | 812.867.8314 | cweatherf...@scvl.com From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: where in the GPO? User Configuration Windows Settings IE Maintenance Connection Settings Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From: Weatherford, Chad [mailto:cweatherf...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: where in the GPO? I am trying to find the location in the GPO to check the box in IE/internet settings/connections/LANsettings for Auto Configuration. Could someone please tell me where to find that? Thanks! Chad Weatherford | Network/Security Administrator | Shoe Carnival, Inc. | 812.867.8314 | cweatherf...@scvl.com This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: LDAP Help
cool, thanks, works a treat! 2009/7/17 James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com +1 Oldcmp is the proverbial mutt's nuts for this problem 2009/7/17 Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com Happy to give you a query, but this tool does everything you need (AFAICT): http://www.joeware.net/freetools/tools/oldcmp/index.htm Cheers Ken -- *From:* Clayton Doige [clayton.do...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, 17 July 2009 7:42 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* LDAP Help Hi all, my LDAP is poor so apologies if this is a relatively div questions. The network I am working on has an AD that has not been looked after properly over the years, servers and desktops were simply shut off, and not properly removed from AD, so there are over 5000 computer objects floating around in an environment that has under 2000 live hosts. I would like to construct an LDAP search that will display all the machines which have not talked to a domain controller in over say 3 months, and I have no idea how to syntax the query, or what attributes to reference in the query to ul,l the information out. Any help will be greatly appreciated (Windows 2003 domain) Many thanks in advance Clayton -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. http://raythestray.blogspot.com -- Regards, Clayton clay...@alsipius.com http://alsipius.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Security by obscurity?
+1, Security by Obscurity isn't a really sound security principle, proper design and risk mitigation strategies ( like using URLscan on your OWA and a firewall in front of that, and pentesting, fuzzing, and web scanning for any exploits) is a better way to go. Z Edward Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + ezi...@lifespan.org Phone:401-639-3505 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Security by obscurity? I'm with you. Make it easy for your users and use appropriate safeguards. -sc From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Security by obscurity? I am having a discussion with some of my fellow SE's, they think having OWA's address be hostname.domain.com/exchange instead of mail.companyname.com for security by obscurity reasons. I think it's more overhead/help tickets than it worth. Comments? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Nmap 5.00 Released!
TY, I just upgraded to 4.90RC1 like 1 week ago. Time to get V 5.0 and finish off Froydor's NMAP book which is awesome... So much I wasn't using in my day to day scanning and testing, that now I can use. Sending packets with your own combination of Flags, to see if you can crash hosts, or just identify them is awesome, that plus using IDLE scan and bounce it off printers, or other poorly implemented IP devices is cool. That and NSE, not much between NAMP NETCAT and HPING you can't do. Z Edward Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + ezi...@lifespan.org Phone:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Fwd: Nmap 5.00 Released! For those not subscribed to this alert. -- Peter van Houten Original Message Subject: Nmap 5.00 Released! Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:03:52 -0700 From: Fyodor fyo...@insecure.org To: nmap-hack...@insecure.org Hello everyone. I'm delighted to announce the release of Nmap 5.00! This is the first major release since 4.50 in 2007, and includes about 600 significant changes since then! We consider this the most important Nmap release since 1997, and we recommend that all current users upgrade. There are too many changes to list them all in this email, so here are the top 5 improvements in Nmap 5: 1) The new Ncat tool aims to be your Swiss Army Knife for data transfer, redirection, and debugging. We released a whole users' guide (http://nmap.org/ncat/guide/index.html) detailing security testing and network administration tasks it made easy with Ncat. Details: http://nmap.org/5/#changes-ncat 2) The addition of the Ndiff scan comparison tool completes Nmap's growth into a whole suite of applications which work together to serve network administrators and security practitioners. Ndiff makes it easy to automatically scan your network daily and report on any changes (systems coming up or going down or changes to the software services they are running). The other two tools now packaged with Nmap itself are Ncat and the much improved Zenmap GUI and results viewer. Details: http://nmap.org/5/#changes-ndiff 3) Nmap performance has improved dramatically. We spent last summer scanning much of the Internet and merging that data with internal enterprise scan logs to determine the most commonly open ports. This allows Nmap to scan fewer ports by default while finding more open ports. We also added a fixed-rate scan engine so you can bypass Nmap's congestion control algorithms and scan at exactly the rate (packets per second) you specify. Details: http://nmap.org/5/#changes-performance 4) We released Nmap Network Scanning, the official Nmap guide to network discovery and security scanning. From explaining port scanning basics for novices to detailing low-level packet crafting methods used by advanced hackers, this book suits all levels of security and networking professionals. A 42-page reference guide documents every Nmap feature and option, while the rest of the book demonstrates how to apply those features to quickly solve real-world tasks. More than half the book is available in the free online edition at http://nmap.org/book/toc.html. Details: http://nmap.org/5/#changes-book 5) The Nmap Scripting Engine (NSE) is one of Nmap's most powerful and flexible features. It allows users to write (and share) simple scripts to automate a wide variety of networking tasks. Those scripts are then executed in parallel with the speed and efficiency you expect from Nmap. All existing scripts have been improved, and 32 new ones added. New scripts include a whole bunch of MSRPC/NetBIOS attacks, queries, and vulnerability probes; open proxy detection; whois and AS number lookup queries; brute force attack scripts against the SNMP and POP3 protocols; and many more. All NSE scripts and modules are described in the new NSE documentation portal. Details: http://nmap.org/5/#changes-nse To learn about even more changes, see the full release notes here: http://nmap.org/5/ The Nmap 5.00 source code and Linux, Mac, and Windows packages are available for download at the usual place: http://nmap.org/download.html Go give it a try! And if you find any bugs, let us know on nmap-dev (http://nmap.org/book/man-bugs.html). As an open source project, we don't have a marketing budget. So please help spread the word about the new release! I encounter many folks at security conferences who have been using Nmap for more than a decade but just as a simple port scanner and never learned about the newer features. So this is our chance to spread the word about NSE, Ncat, Ndiff, Zenmap, and all the other great things Nmap has to offer! Enjoy the new release! -Fyodor
Re: Security by obscurity?
+1
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.orgwrote:
I’ve read many articles on this subject – security through obscurity = no
added security. It’s how I roll…
Sean Rector, MCSE
*From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
*Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Security by obscurity?
I am having a discussion with some of my fellow SE’s, they think having
OWA’s address be hostname.domain.com/exchange instead of
mail.companyname.com for “security by obscurity” reasons. I think it’s
more overhead/help tickets than it worth.
Comments?
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Information Technology Manager
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RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Double headers, like at Yankee Stadium? -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Doesn't anyone know how to look at their email headers any more? Email has headers? Like the chrome headers on a '57 Chevy? Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
ROFLMAO! I didn't even notice that! From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? You'll DIScourage them to NOT purchase? Sweet! A bunch-o-recommendations for Stu's stuff from ol' Boris here! -sc From: Boris Elieff [mailto:beli...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Security by obscurity?
I guess we approached the naming of the url to be used for OWA from a
different angle of the security by obscurity POV. We specifically
selected a name that had secure in it, not to thwart would be hackers, but
to give a not so subtle reminder to our users that this is a secure
site.we know our users ;)
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Candee Vaglica can...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.orgwrote:
I’ve read many articles on this subject – security through obscurity =
no added security. It’s how I roll…
Sean Rector, MCSE
*From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
*Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Security by obscurity?
I am having a discussion with some of my fellow SE’s, they think having
OWA’s address be hostname.domain.com/exchange instead of
mail.companyname.com for “security by obscurity” reasons. I think it’s
more overhead/help tickets than it worth.
Comments?
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RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
It isn't not funny! From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? ROFLMAO! I didn't even notice that! From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? You'll DIScourage them to NOT purchase? Sweet! A bunch-o-recommendations for Stu's stuff from ol' Boris here! -sc From: Boris Elieff [mailto:beli...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. -- Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
That's awesome research! On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.comwrote: On 17 Jul 2009 at 0:06, Michael B. Smith wrote: troll. From: Boris Elieff [beli...@hotmail.com] Indeed http://www.google.com/search?q=Boris+Elieff; First hit [grin]: O.C.'s top tax deadbeat said to owe state $2.7 million - OC ... --- Included Stuff Follows --- O.C.´s top tax deadbeat said to owe state $2.7 million - OC Business News - OCRegister.com Boris Z. Elieff of Irvine allegedly owes $2.7 million in personal income taxes to the state, more than anyone in Orange County, according to a list of the state´s top 250 tax delinquents released Monday by the Franchise Tax Board. Elieff, who ranks No. 7 among the state´s top tax deadbeats, could not be reached for comment, because his home phone number is not listed. - Included Stuff Ends - More here: http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/2008/04/07/ocs-top-tax-deadbeat-said-to-owe-state-27-million/ http://preview.tinyurl.com/kul9dc There are two hits for this name on LinkedIn, but both are the same guy: boris elieff: Directory http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/boris/elieff Boris Elieff Owner, BZE Computing Technologies, Inc Location: Greater Los Angeles Area Industry: Computer Network Security B Z E Computing Technologies http://bzetech.com/index.htm Not a very impressive website, although I shouldn't throw stones here ;-) Looks like this is the guy also: MySpace.com - Boris - 56 - Male - HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA - http://www.myspace.com/kamperken Male 56 years old HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA United States Looks like it, as BZEtech.com has phone numbers in Vegas and Huntington Beach. FWIW: B Z E Computer Technologies Phone: (800) 608-8774 Fax: (714) 536-7611 http://bzetech.com/contact.htm Strange, http://www.bzetech.com is different from http://bzetech.com/ [no title] 702-942-1769 714-475-5094 http://www.bzetech.com/ -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: TechNet Plus
Oh, and there's typically enough time to google for an answer if you think you do get stuck on one to many questions. This is a marketing test, not technical, so it can be confusing to us geeks. :-) On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Gavin Wilby gavin.wi...@gmail.com wrote: OK - Im convined, 199 quid for what i want is nothing really. Ill create a new ID over the weekend and report back to let you know if it worked and what hurdles you now have to go through. Gavin. Len Hammond wrote: Do it - you won't regret it. Did the test earlier this year. There is a bit of a training session available to prepare you for the test. I didn't find the help until after I took the test the first time and missed one too many. Spent the hour with the training piece and aced the test the second time. Really not a bad way to qualify for the Action Pack. I went for the Action Pack because I need to support Vista and wanted to put Vista on my desk machine and by the time I got the Action Pack, Win 7RC was out, so I left XP on my desk machine and put W7 on the laptop. Len Hammond CSI:Hartland lenhamm...@gmail.com mailto:lenhamm...@gmail.com On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org mailto: david@nwea.org wrote: +1 Exactly. If you do consulting and charge money for it you are eligible. Nowadays you have to take a test first before you get the Action Pack, but I haven’t had to do that for my renewal yet so I can’t say how hard the test is… Dave *From:* David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:09 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: TechNet Plus That's true. But if you do any consulting or outside work at all, you are eligible. David On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Peter van Houten peter...@gmail.com mailto:peter...@gmail.com wrote: Action Pack software is not provided for personal use, for hosting customer applications, or for installation at a customer site. It cannot be used, for example, to host a commercial website; this is considered a production environment outside the scope of the software's intended purpose. From the end of this page: https://partner.microsoft.com/UK/program/managemembership/actionpack/mapslicensing -- Peter van Houten On the 16/07/2009 21:55, Gavin Wilby wrote the following: Is it easy enough to get for myself - bear in mind the company I work for also gets it... David Lum wrote: Microsoft Action Pack...worth every penny... Dave -Original Message- From: Gavin Wilby [mailto:gavin.wi...@gmail.com mailto:gavin.wi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: TechNet Plus Im struggling to find an easy/ cheap way to get a SBS2008 server for home use. If I go for TechNet Plus will that give me a full license of said product to use for personal use? Or is it all trialware? Gavin. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --David _ I've learned that you can tell a lot about a person by the way he/she handles four things: A rainy day, the elderly, lost luggage, and tangled Christmas tree lights. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Any WebSense Gurus?
Oh, yeah... Been through all the docs... I manually added every server to the dc_config.txt file (even though that's not supposed to be necessary--DC Agent is supposed to automatically find all the DCs on the network). No dice. I, too, have refused to install DC Agent on my DCs. It's only installed on the WebSense server. -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? As I recall at the time it was set up several years ago, there were different configurations, we (the AD team) refused the one that required an agent on each DC running with high level privileges so it was setup with the DC Agent service running on the WebSense side. The agent needed to query each DC for session state to generate the username/IP mapping for its own internal db it uses for what they call Transparent Identification. If it couldn't obtain that information, you were popped for your credentials. So it needs a list of DCs in the domain for this session information. There is a service to get that information from the directory. I believe there are a number of different configurations for this product depending on its role and from glancing at a manual, the Transparent mode is an option. From a WebSense manual: WebSense DC Agent queries each domain controller for user logon sessions every 10 seconds by default, obtaining the user name and workstation name for each logon session. For each logon session identified, DC Agent performs DNS lookup to resolve the workstation name to an IP address, and records the resulting user name/IP address pair. In Websense v4.4, DC Agent (Domain Controller Agent) was the backbone of transparent user identification. In Websense Enterprise v5.x, DC Agent still plays the central role, but also works together with User Service to provide user logon information to the Websense servers. The DC Agent program is installed on a Windows NT 4 or 2000/2003 Server machine, and runs as a Windows service. DC Agent can be installed on one machine, and can discover domains outside of its own domain. Multiple DC Agents can also be used; this may benefit larger networks. For details, see Deployment of DC Agent and Related Components on page 17. DC Agent identifies available domains and domain controllers in the network, and then monitors the domain controllers and associated client machines (workstations) for user logon sessions. Filtering Service uses the information provided by DC Agent to apply Internet filtering policies to users logged on to the network. NetBIOS and Domain Discovery In order for automatic domain detection to occur, NetBIOS must be enabled on firewalls or routers connecting virtually or physically separate subnets or domains. In particular, TCP port 139 (used by NetBIOS) must be enabled. If NetBIOS is not enabled between domains and/or subnets, then Filtering Service and DC Agent cannot communicate with those domains or subnets by default. This can occasionally be true even if those domains or subnets are trusted by the domain where Filtering Service resides. If NetBIOS port 139 is not enabled, you may want to deploy additional DC Agents in virtually or physically remote domains. There is an option to disable NetBIOS usage, if you do not want to enable port 139. See the UseNetBIOS description under Initialization Parameters on page 85 for details. A program called XidDcAgent.exe is installed by default on the DC Agent machine, to the directory \Websense\bin\. This program runs as a Windows service, and initiates the processes that enable DC Agent to identify domains and monitor logon sessions. DC Agent stores domain information to the hard disk of the server where it is installed, in a file called dc_config.txt. New domain information is recorded to dc_config.txt upon startup, and every 24 hours thereafter by default. All that's configurable so he could have just been mad at me for the 24 hr period after I promoted the new DC or whatever interval he had configured for DC discovery (this was the first additional DC in that domain in many years) It also was the 1st x64 DC in a very busy site on, comparatively, pretty high end HW so it grabbed much of the authentication traffic for that site. Potentially thousands of folks could have been getting popped for creds that 1st day and it would have been escalated to him, perhaps that's all it was. -Original Message- From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? Agreed with the others. You should not have to specify a DC in the config. Specifying the domain, it should be able to find a DC. Just a thought is the DC that is working a GC? Are the other ones on the list not GCs? Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company
RE: Any WebSense Gurus?
Well, it's trying to! :-) It's identifying maybe 50% or even 75% of users, but not all. -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? Is it doing Transparent Identification? -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? The DC that works is a GC--but so are all the rest. This one's a head-scratcher. -Original Message- From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? Agreed with the others. You should not have to specify a DC in the config. Specifying the domain, it should be able to find a DC. Just a thought is the DC that is working a GC? Are the other ones on the list not GCs? Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 -Original Message- From: tvanderk...@expl.com [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? I was going to say that we use WebSense here and I have never had to do anything other than give it the name of our domain. I have never given it a name or IP address of any DC. I did have to go in with one of their support person's help and add a number of service accounts to a list of names to not record. Other than that it just works. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? The funny thing is, according to the WebSense docs you shouldn't have to point the agent to your DCs; it's supposed to automatically find them all. And I'm not sure exactly how DC Agent contacts the DCs. I read something in the documentation about TCP port 139. Would you be willing to put me in touch with your WebSense guy so I could pick his brain? -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? We have the DC Agent setup and it needs to be able to contact each DC to determine logon status of the users. I believe it's in how you configure the agent, our setup requires that a user be authenticated within x period of time to be authorized to get through. Don't know what x is as I'm the AD guy not the websense guy...I do know he wasn't too happy when I added a new DC and neglected (well, actually, forgot) to tell him so he could update his websense config. -Original Message- From: Klint Price [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? Do you have users on multiple domains? In my websense, for 500 users, I have them going through a single DC. Klint -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Any WebSense Gurus? We had a vendor come in and install WebSense on a server for us. However, the vendor is stumped by a problem and I figured I'd see if any of the pros here had a solution. I'm brand new to WebSense myself, so I can't help much. The vendor has been working with WebSense tech support, but apparently they're stumped, too. The issue seems to be that the DC Agent utility isn't correctly getting users' usernames. Not 100% of the time, though--just most of the time. As best I can tell, the utility isn't correctly polling all of the DCs in the network. Here's some sample output from the TestLogServer utility: = time=Wed Jul 15 15:43:53 2009 version=3 server=10.0.0.1 source=150.176.37.70 dest=66.165.70.6 protocol=http url= http://www.woot.com/salerss.aspx; port=80 category=17 (SHOPPING) disposition= 1026 (Category Not Blocked) app type= keyword= user= bytes sent=0 bytes received=0 duration=0 time=Wed Jul 15 15:43:53 2009 version=3 server=10.0.0.1 source=10.11.7.106 dest=150.176.95.205 protocol=https url= https://150.176.95.205/; port=443 category=97 (EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS) disposition= 1026 (Category Not Blocked) app type= keyword= user=LDAP://10.11.1.2 OU=Users,OU=PPS,DC=taylor,DC=k12,DC=fl,DC=us/George Clayton bytes sent=0 bytes received=0 duration=0 = Notice that in the first entry, there's no username. There is in the second entry, though. The common thread is that every time a user is correctly identified, it's from the same DC: 10.11.1.2. So it appears that DC
RE: Any WebSense Gurus?
Just for testing, we gave the account that runs the DC Agent service domain admin rights. It made no difference, though. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? Those are some REALLY old versions being referenced in that manual Bob. We're running v7.1 now and while the DC Agent still exists, all that is required for it to work is a service account used by the agent on the WebSense server with read permissions to AD. TVK -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? As I recall at the time it was set up several years ago, there were different configurations, we (the AD team) refused the one that required an agent on each DC running with high level privileges so it was setup with the DC Agent service running on the WebSense side. The agent needed to query each DC for session state to generate the username/IP mapping for its own internal db it uses for what they call Transparent Identification. If it couldn't obtain that information, you were popped for your credentials. So it needs a list of DCs in the domain for this session information. There is a service to get that information from the directory. I believe there are a number of different configurations for this product depending on its role and from glancing at a manual, the Transparent mode is an option. From a WebSense manual: WebSense DC Agent queries each domain controller for user logon sessions every 10 seconds by default, obtaining the user name and workstation name for each logon session. For each logon session identified, DC Agent performs DNS lookup to resolve the workstation name to an IP address, and records the resulting user name/IP address pair. In Websense v4.4, DC Agent (Domain Controller Agent) was the backbone of transparent user identification. In Websense Enterprise v5.x, DC Agent still plays the central role, but also works together with User Service to provide user logon information to the Websense servers. The DC Agent program is installed on a Windows NT 4 or 2000/2003 Server machine, and runs as a Windows service. DC Agent can be installed on one machine, and can discover domains outside of its own domain. Multiple DC Agents can also be used; this may benefit larger networks. For details, see Deployment of DC Agent and Related Components on page 17. DC Agent identifies available domains and domain controllers in the network, and then monitors the domain controllers and associated client machines (workstations) for user logon sessions. Filtering Service uses the information provided by DC Agent to apply Internet filtering policies to users logged on to the network. NetBIOS and Domain Discovery In order for automatic domain detection to occur, NetBIOS must be enabled on firewalls or routers connecting virtually or physically separate subnets or domains. In particular, TCP port 139 (used by NetBIOS) must be enabled. If NetBIOS is not enabled between domains and/or subnets, then Filtering Service and DC Agent cannot communicate with those domains or subnets by default. This can occasionally be true even if those domains or subnets are trusted by the domain where Filtering Service resides. If NetBIOS port 139 is not enabled, you may want to deploy additional DC Agents in virtually or physically remote domains. There is an option to disable NetBIOS usage, if you do not want to enable port 139. See the UseNetBIOS description under Initialization Parameters on page 85 for details. A program called XidDcAgent.exe is installed by default on the DC Agent machine, to the directory \Websense\bin\. This program runs as a Windows service, and initiates the processes that enable DC Agent to identify domains and monitor logon sessions. DC Agent stores domain information to the hard disk of the server where it is installed, in a file called dc_config.txt. New domain information is recorded to dc_config.txt upon startup, and every 24 hours thereafter by default. All that's configurable so he could have just been mad at me for the 24 hr period after I promoted the new DC or whatever interval he had configured for DC discovery (this was the first additional DC in that domain in many years) It also was the 1st x64 DC in a very busy site on, comparatively, pretty high end HW so it grabbed much of the authentication traffic for that site. Potentially thousands of folks could have been getting popped for creds that 1st day and it would have been escalated to him, perhaps that's all it was. -Original Message- From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? Agreed with the others. You should not have to specify a DC in the config. Specifying the domain, it should be
BB question
My company finally got me a BB Curve 8320 with ATT.Do I have to have BIS to get mail on this thing? I downloaded the BES Express but have not installed it yet. I signed up for a bb email addy but never get any emails sent. I installed the Desktop manager which sees the phone (and it's pin) but the desktop redirector just shows No PIN.The only email I've been able to get was via Gmail from Google's mobile app suite, which I must say is a great set of mobile apps. The outlook calendar does seem to be sync'ing but I'm getting access denied messages? Thanks, Jake Gardner Network Administrator 267-352-2020 Ext. 246 www.ttcdas.com http://www.ttcdas.com/ ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Mr. Elieff From the info listed below about you! It would seem you have a very good mind! If in the event you arent removed from the list as you ask? Please as you read over this paper. Say one sentence at a time as you beat your head up against a very hard wall. And just maybe? With all the brain power you may have? You will cause the servers at sunbelt to auto remove you from the list! May contains words not suited for ladies. And I do apologize for it. http://www.scs.stanford.edu/~dm/home/papers/remove.pdf Gene C. In Memory of my little brother http://genec-lori.com/ PackRat GarageSale http://genec-lori.biz/ Genes-Computers Inc. Yulee ,Fl Established 1981, Microsoft OEM Registered member, system builder Active registered Microsoft Partner Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators If you think you're beaten, Then you are! If you give up the fight, Accept it !! _ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? That's awesome research! On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: On 17 Jul 2009 at 0:06, Michael B. Smith wrote: troll. From: Boris Elieff [beli...@hotmail.com] Indeed http://www.google.com/search?q=Boris+Elieff; First hit [grin]: O.C.'s top tax deadbeat said to owe state $2.7 million - OC ... --- Included Stuff Follows --- O.C.´s top tax deadbeat said to owe state $2.7 million - OC Business News - OCRegister.com Boris Z. Elieff of Irvine allegedly owes $2.7 million in personal income taxes to the state, more than anyone in Orange County, according to a list of the state´s top 250 tax delinquents released Monday by the Franchise Tax Board. Elieff, who ranks No. 7 among the state´s top tax deadbeats, could not be reached for comment, because his home phone number is not listed. - Included Stuff Ends - More here: http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/2008/04/07/ocs-top-tax-deadbeat-said-to-owe -state-27-million/ http://preview.tinyurl.com/kul9dc There are two hits for this name on LinkedIn, but both are the same guy: boris elieff: Directory http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/boris/elieff Boris Elieff Owner, BZE Computing Technologies, Inc Location: Greater Los Angeles Area Industry: Computer Network Security B Z E Computing Technologies http://bzetech.com/index.htm Not a very impressive website, although I shouldn't throw stones here ;-) Looks like this is the guy also: MySpace.com - Boris - 56 - Male - HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA - http://www.myspace.com/kamperken Male 56 years old HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA United States Looks like it, as BZEtech.com has phone numbers in Vegas and Huntington Beach. FWIW: B Z E Computer Technologies Phone: (800) 608-8774 Fax: (714) 536-7611 http://bzetech.com/contact.htm Strange, http://www.bzetech.com http://www.bzetech.com/ is different from http://bzetech.com/ [no title] 702-942-1769 714-475-5094 http://www.bzetech.com/ -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Security by obscurity?
There is nothing wrong with obscurity - it's just that you can't rely on it.
An NTFS ACL is guaranteed by the OS to work a certain way always - if you set
an ACE on a sensitive file then you can rely on certain identities have access
to it, and others being denied
The same file, buried in a folder with tens of thousands of others, will also
be harder to attack. However you can't rely on this type of obscurity to
protect your file. An attacker might get lucky. Or they might know exactly what
to look for. Or they might just write a little app to try every possible file
in that folder.
Obscurity isn't bad. It just doesn't give you any guarantees about anything.
Cheers
Ken
From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:can...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 9:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security by obscurity?
+1
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Sean Rector
sean.rec...@vaopera.orgmailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org wrote:
I've read many articles on this subject - security through obscurity = no added
security. It's how I roll...
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security by obscurity?
I am having a discussion with some of my fellow SE's, they think having OWA's
address be hostname.domain.com/exchangehttp://hostname.domain.com/exchange
instead of mail.companyname.comhttp://mail.companyname.com/ for security by
obscurity reasons. I think it's more overhead/help tickets than it worth.
Comments?
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Re: BB question
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Jake Gardnerjgard...@ttcdas.com wrote: Do I have to have BIS to get mail on this thing? BIS is one way to enable wireless email on a BlackBerry. There are others. I downloaded the BES Express but have not installed it yet. BlackBerry Enterprise Server is another way. I signed up for a bb email addy but never get any emails sent. Who did you sign-up with? Contact them for assistance. I installed the Desktop manager which sees the phone (and it's pin) but the desktop redirector just shows No PIN. Desktop redirection will not work in that case. Unfortunately, we only use BES, so I don't know what the cause might be or how to fix it. There are some useful BlackBerry forums on the web. Google searches for error messages often find relevant advice. Example: http://www.google.com/search?q=blackberry+redirector+%22No+PIN%22 -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - *From:* Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM *Subject:* Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. -- Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
What a bore is Elieff! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? What a maroon. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.com wrote: Ah, you're kidding, right? From: Boris Elieff [mailto:beli...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 17:43 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Security by obscurity?
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:04 AM, David Lumdavid@nwea.org wrote: Further comments from my SE's: The main difference is that if you go to: http://hostname.domain (which is all that script kiddies would find), there is no login prompt. No login prompt = no brute force attacks. Having the IP does nothing for you in this case. If someone's doing untargeted IP scanning for OWA servers and running brute force attacks against any they find, then they're almost certainly going to be trying http://host/exchange as well as http://host/, since the former is the default. http://host/obscure would stop such blind attacks (but not anything more sophisticated). Again, this is more of a reduce the amount of log noise measure than a real security measure. As such, I would only implement it if there actually is a significant amount of log noise problem. If there are any links to your OWA URL anywhere on the Internet, web crawlers will find them. Some untargeted scanners use crawlers. So your obscure URL will not stay secret for long. Someone will eventually put it in an email or something that ends up harvested by a spam robot or something. The hallmark of security through obscurity is a feature which is expected to remain secret but is not intended to be easily/frequently changed to counter disclosure. So unless you plan on changing your http://host/obscure URL on a regular basis, it is security through obscurity. So, again, maybe worth it to reduce log noise (or maybe not), but otherwise not worth the user support burden. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.orgwrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - *From:* Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM *Subject:* Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.comwrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. -- Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Let ol' Boris alone... he isn't for certain not an idjit. -sc From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? It isn't not funny! From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? ROFLMAO! I didn't even notice that! From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? You'll DIScourage them to NOT purchase? Sweet! A bunch-o-recommendations for Stu's stuff from ol' Boris here! -sc From: Boris Elieff [mailto:beli...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Stop. I can't see my screen anymore. Eyes are watering from laughing so much. - Original Message - From: Kim Longenbaugh To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:07 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? What a bore is Elieff! -- From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? What a maroon. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.com wrote: Ah, you're kidding, right? -- From: Boris Elieff [mailto:beli...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 17:43 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. -- Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
How many list users. How many free versions of blat. They couldn't possibly blacklist all of our domains right??? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Let ol' Boris alone. he isn't for certain not an idjit. -sc From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? It isn't not funny! -- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? ROFLMAO! I didn't even notice that! -- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? You'll DIScourage them to NOT purchase? Sweet! A bunch-o-recommendations for Stu's stuff from ol' Boris here! -sc From: Boris Elieff [mailto:beli...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. -- Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
And it would also be wrong to wardial the 800 # listed on his website. No... really. That wouldn't be nice. -sc From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
OMG That. Is. Teh. R0x0rz! -sc From: c.e. gene connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Mr. Elieff From the info listed below about you! It would seem you have a very good mind! If in the event you aren't removed from the list as you ask? Please as you read over this paper. Say one sentence at a time as you beat your head up against a very hard wall. And just maybe? With all the brain power you may have? You will cause the servers at sunbelt to auto remove you from the list! May contains words not suited for ladies. And I do apologize for it. http://www.scs.stanford.edu/~dm/home/papers/remove.pdf Gene C. In Memory of my little brother http://genec-lori.com/ PackRat GarageSale http://genec-lori.biz/ Genes-Computers Inc. Yulee ,Fl Established 1981, Microsoft OEM Registered member, system builder Active registered Microsoft Partner Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators If you think you're beaten, Then you are! If you give up the fight, Accept it !! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? That's awesome research! On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: On 17 Jul 2009 at 0:06, Michael B. Smith wrote: troll. From: Boris Elieff [beli...@hotmail.com] Indeed http://www.google.com/search?q=Boris+Elieff; First hit [grin]: O.C.'s top tax deadbeat said to owe state $2.7 million - OC ... --- Included Stuff Follows --- O.C.´s top tax deadbeat said to owe state $2.7 million - OC Business News - OCRegister.com Boris Z. Elieff of Irvine allegedly owes $2.7 million in personal income taxes to the state, more than anyone in Orange County, according to a list of the state´s top 250 tax delinquents released Monday by the Franchise Tax Board. Elieff, who ranks No. 7 among the state´s top tax deadbeats, could not be reached for comment, because his home phone number is not listed. - Included Stuff Ends - More here: http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/2008/04/07/ocs-top-tax-deadbeat-said-to-owe-state-27-million/ http://preview.tinyurl.com/kul9dc There are two hits for this name on LinkedIn, but both are the same guy: boris elieff: Directory http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/boris/elieff Boris Elieff Owner, BZE Computing Technologies, Inc Location: Greater Los Angeles Area Industry: Computer Network Security B Z E Computing Technologies http://bzetech.com/index.htm Not a very impressive website, although I shouldn't throw stones here ;-) Looks like this is the guy also: MySpace.com - Boris - 56 - Male - HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA - http://www.myspace.com/kamperken Male 56 years old HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA United States Looks like it, as BZEtech.com has phone numbers in Vegas and Huntington Beach. FWIW: B Z E Computer Technologies Phone: (800) 608-8774 Fax: (714) 536-7611 http://bzetech.com/contact.htm Strange, http://www.bzetech.com http://www.bzetech.com/ is different from http://bzetech.com/ [no title] 702-942-1769 714-475-5094 http://www.bzetech.com/ -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Along with his PoA Natasha Daahhhling! -sc From: Lee Douglas [mailto:lee.doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
It's almost worth commandeering a botnet just for the effort. Or... mailstorm.exe from the Exchange 5.5 ResKit...[1] -sc [1] Hi Dean! From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? How many list users. How many free versions of blat. They couldn't possibly blacklist all of our domains right??? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare mailto:scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Let ol' Boris alone... he isn't for certain not an idjit. -sc From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? It isn't not funny! From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? ROFLMAO! I didn't even notice that! From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? You'll DIScourage them to NOT purchase? Sweet! A bunch-o-recommendations for Stu's stuff from ol' Boris here! -sc From: Boris Elieff [mailto:beli...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Well spotted Steven. Too many double negatives for a Friday. Where are these trolls educated; under a bridge? Reminds me of another popular phrase you don't know nothing. May apply here. -- Peter van Houten *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? You’ll DIScourage them to NOT purchase? Sweet! A bunch-o-recommendations for Stu’s stuff from ol’ Boris here! -sc *From:* Boris Elieff [mailto:beli...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:43 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* What does it take to get off this mailing list? I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: ot, Friday comments
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:04 AM, c.e. gene connorcege...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not posting this to upset anyone or to start a political war on this list Yet you take actions which you clearly recognize are likely to do so. 1. I learned a few things that I didn't know about...like them getting their full salary for the rest of their lives even when they serve only 1 term The reason you didn't know about it is because it isn't true. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hillary.htm http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=20 2. They didn't pay into the Soc. Security program. Prior to 1983, correct; they do now. See above. But I will bet you my last $$ that when they get 62 they will be drawing off of it! Do you reject benefits that were enacted after you entered the workforce? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA Mainly seems to be a rant against illegal aliens. While I don't believe taxpayers should be supporting illegal aliens, I also don't think it's currently the massive give-away this person seems to think it is. I don't support any amnesty that would qualify long-time illegal aliens for significant monetary benefits, unless said illegal aliens also have to pay their backtaxes first. But I also don't know of any proposed legislation *with significant support* that would create such a give-away. I'm also amused at his complaints about off-shoring. Last I knew, that was something done by companies, not by congress. To me, this video mainly demonstrates that an ill-informed jingoist can still dress up in period costume and make a video. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT] We Choose The Moon
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Kurt Buffkurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Best news of the week: NASA has found the lost tapes of the landing and walk, and will be restoring them. Finally found an authoritative source on this. Unfortunately, no original recordings have been found yet. NASA has derivative copies, and is having them touched up digitally. http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE56F5MK20090716 http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/jul/HQ_09_166_Apollo_11_Moonwalk_Video.html -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: ot, Friday comments
Dudes... you are harshing me out on a Friday... You can't expect me to read jingoist and still be in a good mood to get thru my midnite maintenance window, can you? Send me some lolcats or something. Geesh. sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ot, Friday comments On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:04 AM, c.e. gene connorcege...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not posting this to upset anyone or to start a political war on this list Yet you take actions which you clearly recognize are likely to do so. 1. I learned a few things that I didn't know about...like them getting their full salary for the rest of their lives even when they serve only 1 term The reason you didn't know about it is because it isn't true. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hillary.htm http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=20 2. They didn't pay into the Soc. Security program. Prior to 1983, correct; they do now. See above. But I will bet you my last $$ that when they get 62 they will be drawing off of it! Do you reject benefits that were enacted after you entered the workforce? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA Mainly seems to be a rant against illegal aliens. While I don't believe taxpayers should be supporting illegal aliens, I also don't think it's currently the massive give-away this person seems to think it is. I don't support any amnesty that would qualify long-time illegal aliens for significant monetary benefits, unless said illegal aliens also have to pay their backtaxes first. But I also don't know of any proposed legislation *with significant support* that would create such a give-away. I'm also amused at his complaints about off-shoring. Last I knew, that was something done by companies, not by congress. To me, this video mainly demonstrates that an ill-informed jingoist can still dress up in period costume and make a video. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] We Choose The Moon
Certainly bad taste on NASA's part to claim _THEY_ have the original moonwalk video so soon after Michael's death. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] We Choose The Moon On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Kurt Buffkurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Best news of the week: NASA has found the lost tapes of the landing and walk, and will be restoring them. Finally found an authoritative source on this. Unfortunately, no original recordings have been found yet. NASA has derivative copies, and is having them touched up digitally. http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE56F5MK20090716 http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/jul/HQ_09_166_Apollo_11_Moonwalk_V ideo.html -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: ot, Friday comments
Dude, you need to get your mellow on. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: Dudes... you are harshing me out on a Friday... You can't expect me to read jingoist and still be in a good mood to get thru my midnite maintenance window, can you? Send me some lolcats or something. Geesh. sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ot, Friday comments On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:04 AM, c.e. gene connorcege...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not posting this to upset anyone or to start a political war on this list Yet you take actions which you clearly recognize are likely to do so. 1. I learned a few things that I didn't know about...like them getting their full salary for the rest of their lives even when they serve only 1 term The reason you didn't know about it is because it isn't true. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hillary.htm http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=20 2. They didn't pay into the Soc. Security program. Prior to 1983, correct; they do now. See above. But I will bet you my last $$ that when they get 62 they will be drawing off of it! Do you reject benefits that were enacted after you entered the workforce? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA Mainly seems to be a rant against illegal aliens. While I don't believe taxpayers should be supporting illegal aliens, I also don't think it's currently the massive give-away this person seems to think it is. I don't support any amnesty that would qualify long-time illegal aliens for significant monetary benefits, unless said illegal aliens also have to pay their backtaxes first. But I also don't know of any proposed legislation *with significant support* that would create such a give-away. I'm also amused at his complaints about off-shoring. Last I knew, that was something done by companies, not by congress. To me, this video mainly demonstrates that an ill-informed jingoist can still dress up in period costume and make a video. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT] We Choose The Moon
Heh ~ degaussed the tapes to save money. What was the end to end project cost just for the Saturn V vehicles in 1960-1970 dollars? Something in the $6.5 billion range... -- Peter van Houten On the 17/07/2009 15:26, Ben Scott wrote the following: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Kurt Buffkurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Best news of the week: NASA has found the lost tapes of the landing and walk, and will be restoring them. Finally found an authoritative source on this. Unfortunately, no original recordings have been found yet. NASA has derivative copies, and is having them touched up digitally. http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE56F5MK20090716 http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/jul/HQ_09_166_Apollo_11_Moonwalk_Video.html -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Then he would know something, but apparently that something doesn't include how to unsubscribe to the list. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Peter van Houten peter...@gmail.comwrote: Well spotted Steven. Too many double negatives for a Friday. Where are these trolls educated; under a bridge? Reminds me of another popular phrase you don't know nothing. May apply here. -- Peter van Houten *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? You’ll DIScourage them to NOT purchase? Sweet! A bunch-o-recommendations for Stu’s stuff from ol’ Boris here! -sc *From:* Boris Elieff [mailto:beli...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:43 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* What does it take to get off this mailing list? I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Er...from the list. I don't know nothing. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: Then he would know something, but apparently that something doesn't include how to unsubscribe to the list. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Peter van Houten peter...@gmail.comwrote: Well spotted Steven. Too many double negatives for a Friday. Where are these trolls educated; under a bridge? Reminds me of another popular phrase you don't know nothing. May apply here. -- Peter van Houten *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? You’ll DIScourage them to NOT purchase? Sweet! A bunch-o-recommendations for Stu’s stuff from ol’ Boris here! -sc *From:* Boris Elieff [mailto:beli...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:43 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* What does it take to get off this mailing list? I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT] We Choose The Moon
My bet is NASA threw them out and an engineer saw them and picked them up to use at home or hoped to sell them later. If so then the retired engineer is now waiting or looking for a way to post them on Ebay to sell without getting the Fed's coming after him, or the engineer has died and the family does not have a clue that they have them. Jon On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Kurt Buffkurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Best news of the week: NASA has found the lost tapes of the landing and walk, and will be restoring them. Finally found an authoritative source on this. Unfortunately, no original recordings have been found yet. NASA has derivative copies, and is having them touched up digitally. http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE56F5MK20090716 http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/jul/HQ_09_166_Apollo_11_Moonwalk_Video.html -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: ot, Friday comments
Yer tellin' me... telnet:towel.blinkenlights.nl ah. -sc From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ot, Friday comments Dude, you need to get your mellow on. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Dudes... you are harshing me out on a Friday... You can't expect me to read jingoist and still be in a good mood to get thru my midnite maintenance window, can you? Send me some lolcats or something. Geesh. sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ot, Friday comments On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:04 AM, c.e. gene connorcege...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not posting this to upset anyone or to start a political war on this list Yet you take actions which you clearly recognize are likely to do so. 1. I learned a few things that I didn't know about...like them getting their full salary for the rest of their lives even when they serve only 1 term The reason you didn't know about it is because it isn't true. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hillary.htm http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=20 2. They didn't pay into the Soc. Security program. Prior to 1983, correct; they do now. See above. But I will bet you my last $$ that when they get 62 they will be drawing off of it! Do you reject benefits that were enacted after you entered the workforce? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA Mainly seems to be a rant against illegal aliens. While I don't believe taxpayers should be supporting illegal aliens, I also don't think it's currently the massive give-away this person seems to think it is. I don't support any amnesty that would qualify long-time illegal aliens for significant monetary benefits, unless said illegal aliens also have to pay their backtaxes first. But I also don't know of any proposed legislation *with significant support* that would create such a give-away. I'm also amused at his complaints about off-shoring. Last I knew, that was something done by companies, not by congress. To me, this video mainly demonstrates that an ill-informed jingoist can still dress up in period costume and make a video. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Exactly my point. He knew how to get us all to respond didn't he? -- Peter van Houten On the 17/07/2009 15:43, Jonathan Link wrote the following: Then he would know something, but apparently that something doesn't include how to unsubscribe to the list. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Peter van Houten peter...@gmail.com mailto:peter...@gmail.com wrote: Well spotted Steven. Too many double negatives for a Friday. Where are these trolls educated; under a bridge? Reminds me of another popular phrase you don't know nothing. May apply here. -- Peter van Houten *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? You�ll DIScourage them to NOT purchase? Sweet! A bunch-o-recommendations for Stu�s stuff from ol� Boris here! -sc *From:* Boris Elieff [mailto:beli...@hotmail.com mailto:beli...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:43 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* What does it take to get off this mailing list? I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Any WebSense Gurus?
Did you say DC's were at different sites? Was the Websense at the same site as the only DC it could find? No replication errors in the DC I'm assuming, either. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:32 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Just for testing, we gave the account that runs the DC Agent service domain admin rights. It made no difference, though. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? Those are some REALLY old versions being referenced in that manual Bob. We're running v7.1 now and while the DC Agent still exists, all that is required for it to work is a service account used by the agent on the WebSense server with read permissions to AD. TVK -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? As I recall at the time it was set up several years ago, there were different configurations, we (the AD team) refused the one that required an agent on each DC running with high level privileges so it was setup with the DC Agent service running on the WebSense side. The agent needed to query each DC for session state to generate the username/IP mapping for its own internal db it uses for what they call Transparent Identification. If it couldn't obtain that information, you were popped for your credentials. So it needs a list of DCs in the domain for this session information. There is a service to get that information from the directory. I believe there are a number of different configurations for this product depending on its role and from glancing at a manual, the Transparent mode is an option. From a WebSense manual: WebSense DC Agent queries each domain controller for user logon sessions every 10 seconds by default, obtaining the user name and workstation name for each logon session. For each logon session identified, DC Agent performs DNS lookup to resolve the workstation name to an IP address, and records the resulting user name/IP address pair. In Websense v4.4, DC Agent (Domain Controller Agent) was the backbone of transparent user identification. In Websense Enterprise v5.x, DC Agent still plays the central role, but also works together with User Service to provide user logon information to the Websense servers. The DC Agent program is installed on a Windows NT 4 or 2000/2003 Server machine, and runs as a Windows service. DC Agent can be installed on one machine, and can discover domains outside of its own domain. Multiple DC Agents can also be used; this may benefit larger networks. For details, see Deployment of DC Agent and Related Components on page 17. DC Agent identifies available domains and domain controllers in the network, and then monitors the domain controllers and associated client machines (workstations) for user logon sessions. Filtering Service uses the information provided by DC Agent to apply Internet filtering policies to users logged on to the network. NetBIOS and Domain Discovery In order for automatic domain detection to occur, NetBIOS must be enabled on firewalls or routers connecting virtually or physically separate subnets or domains. In particular, TCP port 139 (used by NetBIOS) must be enabled. If NetBIOS is not enabled between domains and/or subnets, then Filtering Service and DC Agent cannot communicate with those domains or subnets by default. This can occasionally be true even if those domains or subnets are trusted by the domain where Filtering Service resides. If NetBIOS port 139 is not enabled, you may want to deploy additional DC Agents in virtually or physically remote domains. There is an option to disable NetBIOS usage, if you do not want to enable port 139. See the UseNetBIOS description under Initialization Parameters on page 85 for details. A program called XidDcAgent.exe is installed by default on the DC Agent machine, to the directory \Websense\bin\. This program runs as a Windows service, and initiates the processes that enable DC Agent to identify domains and monitor logon sessions. DC Agent stores domain information to the hard disk of the server where it is installed, in a file called dc_config.txt. New domain information is recorded to dc_config.txt upon startup, and every 24 hours thereafter by default. All that's configurable so he could have just been mad at me for the 24 hr period after I promoted the new DC or whatever interval he had configured for DC discovery (this was the first additional DC in that domain in many years) It also was the 1st x64 DC in a very busy site on, comparatively, pretty high end HW so it grabbed much of the authentication traffic for that site. Potentially thousands of folks could have been getting popped for creds that 1st day and it would have been
OT: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart
Mr. Caesare, this is especially for you since you need a laugh or two to get you through the long day/night you have scheduled. Warning, some may find this politically, moraly or gender(ly) incorrect, but it's one of the funniest things I've read since the squirrel motorcycle story.(1, 3 12 are my personal favorites). BANNED FROM WAL-MART This is why women should not take men shopping against their will. After I retired, my wife insisted that I accompany her on her trips to Wal-Mart. Unfortunately, like most men, I found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunately, my wife is like most women - she loved to browse. Yesterday my dear wife received the following letter from the local Wal-Mart: Dear Mrs. Samsel, Over the past six months, your husband has been causing quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behavior and have been forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against Mr. Samsel are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras. 1. June 15: Took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people's carts when they weren't looking. 2 . July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in Housewares to go off at 5-minute intervals. 3. July 7: Made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the women's restroom. 4. July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, 'Code 3 in Housewares. Get on it right away. ' 5. August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of MM's on layaway. 6. August 14: Moved a 'CAUTION - WET FLOOR' sign to a carpeted area. 7. August 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told other shoppers he'd invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department. 8. August 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him, he began crying and screamed, 'Why can't you people just leave me alone?' 9. September 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose. 10. September 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were. 11. October 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the ' Mission Impossible' theme. 12. October 6: In the auto department, he practiced his 'Madonna look' by using different sizes of funnels. 13. October 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled 'PICK ME! PICK ME!' 14. October 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a fetal position and screamed 'OH NO! IT'S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!' And last, but not least . 15. October 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, 'Hey! There's no toilet paper in here!' -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
not getting emails again
For those that can see this message and have the sunbelt guy's email addy's please let them know the list is having issues again. Thanks, Jake Gardner Network Administrator 267-352-2020 Ext. 246 www.ttcdas.com http://www.ttcdas.com/ ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
workgroup clients managed by SCCM
Is it possible to manage a few workgroup systems via SCCM? Specifically interested in patch and driver management. If so, any references to tips/tricks? Off to google/bing it as well. Kevin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart
Precisely _BECAUSE_ this is politically incorrect, I forgive the Mister Caesare part. Those are hilarious! -sc From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart Mr. Caesare, this is especially for you since you need a laugh or two to get you through the long day/night you have scheduled. Warning, some may find this politically, moraly or gender(ly) incorrect, but it's one of the funniest things I've read since the squirrel motorcycle story. (1, 3 12 are my personal favorites). BANNED FROM WAL-MART This is why women should not take men shopping against their will. After I retired, my wife insisted that I accompany her on her trips to Wal-Mart. Unfortunately, like most men, I found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunately, my wife is like most women - she loved to browse. Yesterday my dear wife received the following letter from the local Wal-Mart: Dear Mrs. Samsel, Over the past six months, your husband has been causing quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behavior and have been forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against Mr. Samsel are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras. 1. June 15: Took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people's carts when they weren't looking. 2 . July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in Housewares to go off at 5-minute intervals. 3. July 7: Made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the women's restroom. 4. July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, 'Code 3 in Housewares. Get on it right away. ' 5. August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of MM's on layaway. 6. August 14: Moved a 'CAUTION - WET FLOOR' sign to a carpeted area. 7. August 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told other shoppers he'd invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department. 8. August 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him, he began crying and screamed, 'Why can't you people just leave me alone?' 9. September 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose. 10. September 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were. 11. October 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the ' Mission Impossible' theme. 12. October 6: In the auto department, he practiced his 'Madonna look' by using different sizes of funnels. 13. October 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled 'PICK ME! PICK ME!' 14. October 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a fetal position and screamed 'OH NO! IT'S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!' And last, but not least . 15. October 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, 'Hey! There's no toilet paper in here!' -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Security by obscurity?
I can see it either way. If you use the obscure name, then just tell your user base to friggin' bookmark the site. Shook From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Security by obscurity? I am having a discussion with some of my fellow SE's, they think having OWA's address be hostname.domain.com/exchange instead of mail.companyname.com for security by obscurity reasons. I think it's more overhead/help tickets than it worth. Comments? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: TechNet Plus
Idiot. :) Shook From: Gavin Wilby [mailto:gavin.wi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: TechNet Plus Hmm, If I log onto the site to apply for it, it shows me associated with the work account that already exists :( Gavin. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com wrote: The test is idiotproof. It's one of the ones where it doesn't let you click next until you pick the right answer IIRC. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: TechNet Plus +1 Exactly. If you do consulting and charge money for it you are eligible. Nowadays you have to take a test first before you get the Action Pack, but I haven't had to do that for my renewal yet so I can't say how hard the test is... Dave From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.commailto:blazer...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: TechNet Plus That's true. But if you do any consulting or outside work at all, you are eligible. David On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Peter van Houten peter...@gmail.commailto:peter...@gmail.com wrote: Action Pack software is not provided for personal use, for hosting customer applications, or for installation at a customer site. It cannot be used, for example, to host a commercial website; this is considered a production environment outside the scope of the software's intended purpose. From the end of this page: https://partner.microsoft.com/UK/program/managemembership/actionpack/mapslicensing -- Peter van Houten On the 16/07/2009 21:55, Gavin Wilby wrote the following: Is it easy enough to get for myself - bear in mind the company I work for also gets it... David Lum wrote: Microsoft Action Pack...worth every penny... Dave -Original Message- From: Gavin Wilby [mailto:gavin.wi...@gmail.commailto:gavin.wi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: TechNet Plus Im struggling to find an easy/ cheap way to get a SBS2008 server for home use. If I go for TechNet Plus will that give me a full license of said product to use for personal use? Or is it all trialware? Gavin. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- David _ I've learned that you can tell a lot about a person by the way he/she handles four things: A rainy day, the elderly, lost luggage, and tangled Christmas tree lights. -- Gavin Wilby, Twitter: http://twitter.com/gavin_wilby GSXR Blog: http://www.stoof.co.uk ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Server 2008 and Windows Updates
Has anyone had issues with Windows 2008 Server giving error when you try to manually check for windows updates? I have a fresh install, and it's doing it. After spending a day messing with it, I rebuilt it and same thing. Fresh install, nothing custom. The error code is 80072EE2. I've google it for several hours, and none of the suggestions I've found work. Weird thing is it will randomly work, but not consistantly. This is running inside a VMWare ESX box. That shouldn't matter I don't think. It's not part of the domain yet, so no GPOs are applied. Any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Things I've tried: - Rebuild - Add 8530 to windows firewall - Turn off windows firewall - Restart windows update service - Install Server 2008 SP2 - Delete the windows update temp directory - Turn off all the IE security settings that I could find Thanks in advance, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Any WebSense Gurus?
Any chance the WS server isn't getting good info from DNS? Pointing to the wrong DNS server, etc? Does a DNS query from that server return all the correct records? How about an LDAP query from the server independent of WS? Does that return all the correct info? *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? Oh, yeah... Been through all the docs... I manually added every server to the dc_config.txt file (even though that's not supposed to be necessary--DC Agent is supposed to automatically find all the DCs on the network). No dice. I, too, have refused to install DC Agent on my DCs. It's only installed on the WebSense server. -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? As I recall at the time it was set up several years ago, there were different configurations, we (the AD team) refused the one that required an agent on each DC running with high level privileges so it was setup with the DC Agent service running on the WebSense side. The agent needed to query each DC for session state to generate the username/IP mapping for its own internal db it uses for what they call Transparent Identification. If it couldn't obtain that information, you were popped for your credentials. So it needs a list of DCs in the domain for this session information. There is a service to get that information from the directory. I believe there are a number of different configurations for this product depending on its role and from glancing at a manual, the Transparent mode is an option. From a WebSense manual: WebSense DC Agent queries each domain controller for user logon sessions every 10 seconds by default, obtaining the user name and workstation name for each logon session. For each logon session identified, DC Agent performs DNS lookup to resolve the workstation name to an IP address, and records the resulting user name/IP address pair. In Websense v4.4, DC Agent (Domain Controller Agent) was the backbone of transparent user identification. In Websense Enterprise v5.x, DC Agent still plays the central role, but also works together with User Service to provide user logon information to the Websense servers. The DC Agent program is installed on a Windows NT 4 or 2000/2003 Server machine, and runs as a Windows service. DC Agent can be installed on one machine, and can discover domains outside of its own domain. Multiple DC Agents can also be used; this may benefit larger networks. For details, see Deployment of DC Agent and Related Components on page 17. DC Agent identifies available domains and domain controllers in the network, and then monitors the domain controllers and associated client machines (workstations) for user logon sessions. Filtering Service uses the information provided by DC Agent to apply Internet filtering policies to users logged on to the network. NetBIOS and Domain Discovery In order for automatic domain detection to occur, NetBIOS must be enabled on firewalls or routers connecting virtually or physically separate subnets or domains. In particular, TCP port 139 (used by NetBIOS) must be enabled. If NetBIOS is not enabled between domains and/or subnets, then Filtering Service and DC Agent cannot communicate with those domains or subnets by default. This can occasionally be true even if those domains or subnets are trusted by the domain where Filtering Service resides. If NetBIOS port 139 is not enabled, you may want to deploy additional DC Agents in virtually or physically remote domains. There is an option to disable NetBIOS usage, if you do not want to enable port 139. See the UseNetBIOS description under Initialization Parameters on page 85 for details. A program called XidDcAgent.exe is installed by default on the DC Agent machine, to the directory \Websense\bin\. This program runs as a Windows service, and initiates the processes that enable DC Agent to identify domains and monitor logon sessions. DC Agent stores domain information to the hard disk of the server where it is installed, in a file called dc_config.txt. New domain information is recorded to dc_config.txt upon startup, and every 24 hours thereafter by default. All that's configurable so he could have just been mad at me for the 24 hr period after I promoted the new DC or whatever interval he had configured for DC discovery (this was the first additional DC in that domain in many years) It also was the 1st x64 DC in a very busy site on, comparatively, pretty high end HW so it grabbed much of the authentication
RE: Security by obscurity?
We do exactly that, but STILL get support calls... From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Security by obscurity? I can see it either way. If you use the obscure name, then just tell your user base to friggin' bookmark the site. Shook From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Security by obscurity? I am having a discussion with some of my fellow SE's, they think having OWA's address be hostname.domain.com/exchange instead of mail.companyname.com for security by obscurity reasons. I think it's more overhead/help tickets than it worth. Comments? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Security by obscurity?
What's Ed Crowley's line; There are no technical solutions to behavioral problems? Or something like that... :-) *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Security by obscurity? We do exactly that, but STILL get support calls. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart
After seeing that maybe I can get my daughter to do that when my wife and her go shopping. Jon On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: Precisely _*BECAUSE*_ this is politically incorrect, I forgive the “Mister Caesare” part. Those are hilarious! -sc *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 10:06 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart Mr. Caesare, this is especially for you since you need a laugh or two to get you through the long day/night you have scheduled. Warning, some may find this politically, moraly or gender(ly) incorrect, but it's one of the funniest things I've read since the squirrel motorcycle story.(1, 3 12 are my personal favorites). BANNED FROM WAL-MART This is why women should not take men shopping against their will. After I retired, my wife insisted that I accompany her on her trips to Wal-Mart. Unfortunately, like most men, I found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunately, my wife is like most women - she loved to browse. Yesterday my dear wife received the following letter from the local Wal-Mart: Dear Mrs. Samsel, Over the past six months, your husband has been causing quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behavior and have been forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against Mr. Samsel are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras. 1. June 15: Took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people's carts when they weren't looking. 2 . July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in Housewares to go off at 5-minute intervals. 3. July 7: Made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the women's restroom. 4. July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, 'Code 3 in Housewares. Get on it right away. ' 5. August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of MM's on layaway. 6. August 14: Moved a 'CAUTION - WET FLOOR' sign to a carpeted area. 7. August 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told other shoppers he'd invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department. 8. August 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him, he began crying and screamed, 'Why can't you people just leave me alone?' 9. September 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose. 10. September 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were. 11. October 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the ' Mission Impossible' theme. 12. October 6: In the auto department, he practiced his 'Madonna look' by using different sizes of funnels. 13. October 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled 'PICK ME! PICK ME!' 14. October 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a fetal position and screamed 'OH NO! IT'S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!' And last, but not least . 15. October 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, 'Hey! There's no toilet paper in here!' -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Server 2008 and Windows Updates
Not specific to this error or anything.. but something I always try is downloading the latest Windows Update Agent and install it. That has resolved a lot of issues for me: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949104 -Original Message- From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2008 and Windows Updates Has anyone had issues with Windows 2008 Server giving error when you try to manually check for windows updates? I have a fresh install, and it's doing it. After spending a day messing with it, I rebuilt it and same thing. Fresh install, nothing custom. The error code is 80072EE2. I've google it for several hours, and none of the suggestions I've found work. Weird thing is it will randomly work, but not consistantly. This is running inside a VMWare ESX box. That shouldn't matter I don't think. It's not part of the domain yet, so no GPOs are applied. Any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Things I've tried: - Rebuild - Add 8530 to windows firewall - Turn off windows firewall - Restart windows update service - Install Server 2008 SP2 - Delete the windows update temp directory - Turn off all the IE security settings that I could find Thanks in advance, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Which one of the thousands of readers of this list would you like to respond? If you've been blocking this for years, you've had plenty of time to figure out how to contact Sunbelt and remove yourself from the Listserv. Years is plenty of time to manage some web site discovery on your own to figure this out. Complaining in order to get things done does not an IT professional make. -- ME2 On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Boris Elieffbeli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Any WebSense Gurus?
That's correct about the DCs being at different sites. And the WebSense server is in the same site as the DC it's talking to. No errors on that DC... I sure hope it's working right, since it holds the FSMO roles for our domain! :) From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Any WebSense Gurus? Did you say DC's were at different sites? Was the Websense at the same site as the only DC it could find? No replication errors in the DC I'm assuming, either. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:32 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Just for testing, we gave the account that runs the DC Agent service domain admin rights. It made no difference, though. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.commailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? Those are some REALLY old versions being referenced in that manual Bob. We're running v7.1 now and while the DC Agent still exists, all that is required for it to work is a service account used by the agent on the WebSense server with read permissions to AD. TVK -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? As I recall at the time it was set up several years ago, there were different configurations, we (the AD team) refused the one that required an agent on each DC running with high level privileges so it was setup with the DC Agent service running on the WebSense side. The agent needed to query each DC for session state to generate the username/IP mapping for its own internal db it uses for what they call Transparent Identification. If it couldn't obtain that information, you were popped for your credentials. So it needs a list of DCs in the domain for this session information. There is a service to get that information from the directory. I believe there are a number of different configurations for this product depending on its role and from glancing at a manual, the Transparent mode is an option. From a WebSense manual: WebSense DC Agent queries each domain controller for user logon sessions every 10 seconds by default, obtaining the user name and workstation name for each logon session. For each logon session identified, DC Agent performs DNS lookup to resolve the workstation name to an IP address, and records the resulting user name/IP address pair. In Websense v4.4, DC Agent (Domain Controller Agent) was the backbone of transparent user identification. In Websense Enterprise v5.x, DC Agent still plays the central role, but also works together with User Service to provide user logon information to the Websense servers. The DC Agent program is installed on a Windows NT 4 or 2000/2003 Server machine, and runs as a Windows service. DC Agent can be installed on one machine, and can discover domains outside of its own domain. Multiple DC Agents can also be used; this may benefit larger networks. For details, see Deployment of DC Agent and Related Components on page 17. DC Agent identifies available domains and domain controllers in the network, and then monitors the domain controllers and associated client machines (workstations) for user logon sessions. Filtering Service uses the information provided by DC Agent to apply Internet filtering policies to users logged on to the network. NetBIOS and Domain Discovery In order for automatic domain detection to occur, NetBIOS must be enabled on firewalls or routers connecting virtually or physically separate subnets or domains. In particular, TCP port 139 (used by NetBIOS) must be enabled. If NetBIOS is not enabled between domains and/or subnets, then Filtering Service and DC Agent cannot communicate with those domains or subnets by default. This can occasionally be true even if those domains or subnets are trusted by the domain where Filtering Service resides. If NetBIOS port 139 is not enabled, you may want to deploy additional DC Agents in virtually or physically remote domains. There is an option to disable NetBIOS usage, if you do not want to enable port 139. See the UseNetBIOS description under Initialization Parameters on page 85 for details. A program called XidDcAgent.exe is installed by default on the DC Agent machine, to the directory \Websense\bin\. This program runs as a Windows service, and initiates the processes that enable DC Agent to identify domains and monitor logon sessions. DC Agent stores domain information to the hard disk of the server where it is installed, in a file called dc_config.txt. New domain information is recorded to dc_config.txt upon startup, and every 24 hours thereafter by default. All that's configurable so he could have just been mad at me for the 24 hr period after I promoted the new
Re: OT: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart
What a riot. Thanks Sherry! BTW - if you liked the motorcycle and squirrel story, the story's author (and a fellow sysadmin) Daniel Mayer has lots more like it (as well as a published book series) on his website at www.lifeisaroad.com. Enjoy. Andrew On 7/17/09, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Mr. Caesare, this is especially for you since you need a laugh or two to get you through the long day/night you have scheduled. Warning, some may find this politically, moraly or gender(ly) incorrect, but it's one of the funniest things I've read since the squirrel motorcycle story.(1, 3 12 are my personal favorites). BANNED FROM WAL-MART This is why women should not take men shopping against their will. After I retired, my wife insisted that I accompany her on her trips to Wal-Mart. Unfortunately, like most men, I found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunately, my wife is like most women - she loved to browse. Yesterday my dear wife received the following letter from the local Wal-Mart: Dear Mrs. Samsel, Over the past six months, your husband has been causing quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behavior and have been forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against Mr. Samsel are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras. 1. June 15: Took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people's carts when they weren't looking. 2 . July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in Housewares to go off at 5-minute intervals. 3. July 7: Made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the women's restroom. 4. July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, 'Code 3 in Housewares. Get on it right away. ' 5. August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of MM's on layaway. 6. August 14: Moved a 'CAUTION - WET FLOOR' sign to a carpeted area. 7. August 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told other shoppers he'd invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department. 8. August 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him, he began crying and screamed, 'Why can't you people just leave me alone?' 9. September 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose. 10. September 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were. 11. October 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the ' Mission Impossible' theme. 12. October 6: In the auto department, he practiced his 'Madonna look' by using different sizes of funnels. 13. October 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled 'PICK ME! PICK ME!' 14. October 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a fetal position and screamed 'OH NO! IT'S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!' And last, but not least . 15. October 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, 'Hey! There's no toilet paper in here!' -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sent from my mobile device ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart
Isn't that what the M. stands for? From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart Precisely _BECAUSE_ this is politically incorrect, I forgive the Mister Caesare part. Those are hilarious! -sc From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart Mr. Caesare, this is especially for you since you need a laugh or two to get you through the long day/night you have scheduled. Warning, some may find this politically, moraly or gender(ly) incorrect, but it's one of the funniest things I've read since the squirrel motorcycle story. (1, 3 12 are my personal favorites). BANNED FROM WAL-MART This is why women should not take men shopping against their will. After I retired, my wife insisted that I accompany her on her trips to Wal-Mart. Unfortunately, like most men, I found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunately, my wife is like most women - she loved to browse. Yesterday my dear wife received the following letter from the local Wal-Mart: Dear Mrs. Samsel, Over the past six months, your husband has been causing quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behavior and have been forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against Mr. Samsel are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras. 1. June 15: Took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people's carts when they weren't looking. 2 . July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in Housewares to go off at 5-minute intervals. 3. July 7: Made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the women's restroom. 4. July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, 'Code 3 in Housewares. Get on it right away. ' 5. August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of MM's on layaway. 6. August 14: Moved a 'CAUTION - WET FLOOR' sign to a carpeted area. 7. August 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told other shoppers he'd invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department. 8. August 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him, he began crying and screamed, 'Why can't you people just leave me alone?' 9. September 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose. 10. September 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were. 11. October 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the ' Mission Impossible' theme. 12. October 6: In the auto department, he practiced his 'Madonna look' by using different sizes of funnels. 13. October 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled 'PICK ME! PICK ME!' 14. October 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a fetal position and screamed 'OH NO! IT'S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!' And last, but not least . 15. October 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, 'Hey! There's no toilet paper in here!' -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: not getting emails again
FYI, Sunbelt Software has a web site with a contact page. -- ME2 On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Jake Gardnerjgard...@ttcdas.com wrote: For those that can see this message and have the sunbelt guy's email addy's please let them know the list is having issues again. Thanks, Jake Gardner Network Administrator 267-352-2020 Ext. 246 www.ttcdas.com ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged.? If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies.? Thank you. *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Security by obscurity?
This is a part of my reasoning too. Not for obscurity sake (I dont
beleive in it), but for a central website to link to multiple services
we offer off of the same secure authenticated login.
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Sherry Abercrombiesaber...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess we approached the naming of the url to be used for OWA from a
different angle of the security by obscurity POV. We specifically
selected a name that had secure in it, not to thwart would be hackers, but
to give a not so subtle reminder to our users that this is a secure
site.we know our users ;)
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Candee Vaglica can...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.org
wrote:
I’ve read many articles on this subject – security through obscurity = no
added security. It’s how I roll…
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security by obscurity?
I am having a discussion with some of my fellow SE’s, they think having
OWA’s address be hostname.domain.com/exchange instead of
mail.companyname.com for “security by obscurity” reasons. I think it’s more
overhead/help tickets than it worth.
Comments?
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Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
I knew you knew Yoda. Where is he? When did you see him last? - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Which one of the thousands of readers of this list would you like to respond? If you've been blocking this for years, you've had plenty of time to figure out how to contact Sunbelt and remove yourself from the Listserv. Years is plenty of time to manage some web site discovery on your own to figure this out. Complaining in order to get things done does not an IT professional make. -- ME2 On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Boris Elieffbeli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart
Misfit. -sc From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart Isn't that what the M. stands for? From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart Precisely _BECAUSE_ this is politically incorrect, I forgive the Mister Caesare part. Those are hilarious! -sc From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart Mr. Caesare, this is especially for you since you need a laugh or two to get you through the long day/night you have scheduled. Warning, some may find this politically, moraly or gender(ly) incorrect, but it's one of the funniest things I've read since the squirrel motorcycle story. (1, 3 12 are my personal favorites). BANNED FROM WAL-MART This is why women should not take men shopping against their will. After I retired, my wife insisted that I accompany her on her trips to Wal-Mart. Unfortunately, like most men, I found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunately, my wife is like most women - she loved to browse. Yesterday my dear wife received the following letter from the local Wal-Mart: Dear Mrs. Samsel, Over the past six months, your husband has been causing quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behavior and have been forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against Mr. Samsel are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras. 1. June 15: Took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people's carts when they weren't looking. 2 . July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in Housewares to go off at 5-minute intervals. 3. July 7: Made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the women's restroom. 4. July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, 'Code 3 in Housewares. Get on it right away. ' 5. August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of MM's on layaway. 6. August 14: Moved a 'CAUTION - WET FLOOR' sign to a carpeted area. 7. August 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told other shoppers he'd invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department. 8. August 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him, he began crying and screamed, 'Why can't you people just leave me alone?' 9. September 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose. 10. September 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were. 11. October 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the ' Mission Impossible' theme. 12. October 6: In the auto department, he practiced his 'Madonna look' by using different sizes of funnels. 13. October 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled 'PICK ME! PICK ME!' 14. October 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a fetal position and screamed 'OH NO! IT'S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!' And last, but not least . 15. October 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, 'Hey! There's no toilet paper in here!' -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. -- Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
I believe those were Fractured Fairy Tails, or something like that. They were all part of the same 30 minute block I think. Along with the old dude with the pipe who would spin the globe and then regale us with some tale of hunting Burmese tigers or something like that... Good times. -sc From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare mailto:scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT - Time and Attendence Solutions
We are using www.qqest.com -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - Time and Attendence Solutions On 16 Jul 2009 at 11:42, James Kerr wrote: Sorry for the OT but I need to find a few differnent time and attendence solutions. I am looking for a solution for a company with just over 100 employees located in three different locations.I need the solutions to be priced less then $8k and it needs to support biometric clocks as well as the ability to punch though a computer interface. Oh, it also needs to be able to export the timesheet data so we can import it into our accounting software for payroll. I listed below what I've looked into so far but if anyone has any other suggestions I would appreciate it. Kronos - Too expensive WaspTime Pro - Seems pretty decent, fits budget Microsoft Dynamics - Too expensive Gatekeeper - Seems good, not sure yet about pricing. I have a client with similar needs (multiple time clocks scattered across 6 buildings, similar employee count). They used to use eTime but recently switched to TimeVue: Products - Time Tracking Software http://www.icontime.com/products/software/ System is set up to call the timeclocks using a modem, although they also have IP-based timeclocks. Data are formatted for import into Quickbooks payroll. HTH Angus -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Totally makes sense you would know something about fairy tales. You probably enjoyed that show followed Strawberry Shortcake every afternoon back in the day. Shook From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I believe those were Fractured Fairy Tails, or something like that. They were all part of the same 30 minute block I think. Along with the old dude with the pipe who would spin the globe and then regale us with some tale of hunting Burmese tigers or something like that... Good times. -sc From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesaremailto:scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.orgmailto:dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombiemailto:saber...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.commailto:beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out.http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out.http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
If you talk like that about My Little Pony again, I'm gonna let spill your summer camp experience involving the llama, the bar of hand soap, and that see-saw. So back off. -sc From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Totally makes sense you would know something about fairy tales. You probably enjoyed that show followed Strawberry Shortcake every afternoon back in the day. Shook From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I believe those were Fractured Fairy Tails, or something like that. They were all part of the same 30 minute block I think. Along with the old dude with the pipe who would spin the globe and then regale us with some tale of hunting Burmese tigers or something like that... Good times. -sc From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare mailto:scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States
Re: not getting emails again
And unless someone forwards this email to him, he'll never know what you wrote... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, Sunbelt Software has a web site with a contact page. -- ME2 On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Jake Gardnerjgard...@ttcdas.com wrote: For those that can see this message and have the sunbelt guy's email addy's please let them know the list is having issues again. Thanks, Jake Gardner Network Administrator 267-352-2020 Ext. 246 www.ttcdas.com ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged.? If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies.? Thank you. *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Any WebSense Gurus?
Looks like you might be getting some packets dropped. Might need to look to your firewalls. Using something other than port 389 for LDAP listening? On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:32 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: That’s correct about the DCs being at different sites. And the WebSense server is in the same site as the DC it’s talking to. No errors on that DC… I sure hope it’s working right, since it holds the FSMO roles for our domain! J *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 10:01 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Any WebSense Gurus? Did you say DC's were at different sites? Was the Websense at the same site as the only DC it could find? No replication errors in the DC I'm assuming, either. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:32 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Just for testing, we gave the account that runs the DC Agent service domain admin rights. It made no difference, though. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? Those are some REALLY old versions being referenced in that manual Bob. We're running v7.1 now and while the DC Agent still exists, all that is required for it to work is a service account used by the agent on the WebSense server with read permissions to AD. TVK -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Any WebSense Gurus? As I recall at the time it was set up several years ago, there were different configurations, we (the AD team) refused the one that required an agent on each DC running with high level privileges so it was setup with the DC Agent service running on the WebSense side. The agent needed to query each DC for session state to generate the username/IP mapping for its own internal db it uses for what they call Transparent Identification. If it couldn't obtain that information, you were popped for your credentials. So it needs a list of DCs in the domain for this session information. There is a service to get that information from the directory. I believe there are a number of different configurations for this product depending on its role and from glancing at a manual, the Transparent mode is an option. From a WebSense manual: WebSense DC Agent queries each domain controller for user logon sessions every 10 seconds by default, obtaining the user name and workstation name for each logon session. For each logon session identified, DC Agent performs DNS lookup to resolve the workstation name to an IP address, and records the resulting user name/IP address pair. In Websense v4.4, DC Agent (Domain Controller Agent) was the backbone of transparent user identification. In Websense Enterprise v5.x, DC Agent still plays the central role, but also works together with User Service to provide user logon information to the Websense servers. The DC Agent program is installed on a Windows NT 4 or 2000/2003 Server machine, and runs as a Windows service. DC Agent can be installed on one machine, and can discover domains outside of its own domain. Multiple DC Agents can also be used; this may benefit larger networks. For details, see Deployment of DC Agent and Related Components on page 17. DC Agent identifies available domains and domain controllers in the network, and then monitors the domain controllers and associated client machines (workstations) for user logon sessions. Filtering Service uses the information provided by DC Agent to apply Internet filtering policies to users logged on to the network. NetBIOS and Domain Discovery In order for automatic domain detection to occur, NetBIOS must be enabled on firewalls or routers connecting virtually or physically separate subnets or domains. In particular, TCP port 139 (used by NetBIOS) must be enabled. If NetBIOS is not enabled between domains and/or subnets, then Filtering Service and DC Agent cannot communicate with those domains or subnets by default. This can occasionally be true even if those domains or subnets are trusted by the domain where Filtering Service resides. If NetBIOS port 139 is not enabled, you may want to deploy additional DC Agents in virtually or physically remote domains. There is an option to disable NetBIOS usage, if you do not want to enable port 139. See the UseNetBIOS description under Initialization Parameters on page 85 for details. A program called XidDcAgent.exe is installed by default on the DC Agent machine, to the directory \Websense\bin\. This program runs as a Windows service, and initiates the processes that enable DC Agent to identify domains and monitor logon sessions. DC Agent stores domain information to the hard disk of the server
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Not until the Smurfs and ThunderCats were off, then strawberry shortcakes - Original Message - From: Andy Shook To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Totally makes sense you would know something about fairy tales. You probably enjoyed that show followed Strawberry Shortcake every afternoon back in the day. Shook From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I believe those were Fractured Fairy Tails, or something like that. They were all part of the same 30 minute block I think. Along with the old dude with the pipe who would spin the globe and then regale us with some tale of hunting Burmese tigers or something like that. Good times. -sc From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. -- Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
I thought it was an Alpaca On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: If you talk like that about My Little Pony again, I’m gonna let spill your summer camp experience involving the llama, the bar of hand soap, and that see-saw. So back off. -sc *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 11:02 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Totally makes sense you would know something about fairy tales. You probably enjoyed that show followed Strawberry Shortcake every afternoon back in the day. Shook *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 10:57 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I believe those were “Fractured Fairy Tails”, or something like that. They were all part of the same 30 minute block I think. Along with the old dude with the pipe who would spin the globe and then regale us with some tale of hunting Burmese tigers or something like that… Good times. -sc *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - *From:* Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM *Subject:* RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc *From:* paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. -- Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - *From:* Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM *Subject:* Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. -- Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
[OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts
Someone just sent me a link to a company that stocks those hard-to-find car parts. You know, those weird things that only your particular make of car seems to need, and the regular stores never seem to stock. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=2 -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Shook's site: http://www.ilovealpacas.com/ -sc From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I thought it was an Alpaca On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: If you talk like that about My Little Pony again, I'm gonna let spill your summer camp experience involving the llama, the bar of hand soap, and that see-saw. So back off. -sc From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Totally makes sense you would know something about fairy tales. You probably enjoyed that show followed Strawberry Shortcake every afternoon back in the day. Shook From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I believe those were Fractured Fairy Tails, or something like that. They were all part of the same 30 minute block I think. Along with the old dude with the pipe who would spin the globe and then regale us with some tale of hunting Burmese tigers or something like that... Good times. -sc From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare mailto:scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out.
RE: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts
Sweet... I'm low on blinker fluid. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts Someone just sent me a link to a company that stocks those hard-to-find car parts. You know, those weird things that only your particular make of car seems to need, and the regular stores never seem to stock. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=2 -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Friday Funny - Banned From Wal-Mart
Oh cool, I did not know that he was a sysadmin also. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Andrew Laya andrew.l...@gmail.com wrote: What a riot. Thanks Sherry! BTW - if you liked the motorcycle and squirrel story, the story's author (and a fellow sysadmin) Daniel Mayer has lots more like it (as well as a published book series) on his website at www.lifeisaroad.com. Enjoy. Andrew On 7/17/09, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Mr. Caesare, this is especially for you since you need a laugh or two to get you through the long day/night you have scheduled. Warning, some may find this politically, moraly or gender(ly) incorrect, but it's one of the funniest things I've read since the squirrel motorcycle story.(1, 3 12 are my personal favorites). BANNED FROM WAL-MART This is why women should not take men shopping against their will. After I retired, my wife insisted that I accompany her on her trips to Wal-Mart. Unfortunately, like most men, I found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunately, my wife is like most women - she loved to browse. Yesterday my dear wife received the following letter from the local Wal-Mart: Dear Mrs. Samsel, Over the past six months, your husband has been causing quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behavior and have been forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against Mr. Samsel are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras. 1. June 15: Took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in people's carts when they weren't looking. 2 . July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in Housewares to go off at 5-minute intervals. 3. July 7: Made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the women's restroom. 4. July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, 'Code 3 in Housewares. Get on it right away. ' 5. August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of MM's on layaway. 6. August 14: Moved a 'CAUTION - WET FLOOR' sign to a carpeted area. 7. August 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told other shoppers he'd invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department. 8. August 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him, he began crying and screamed, 'Why can't you people just leave me alone?' 9. September 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose. 10. September 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were. 11. October 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the ' Mission Impossible' theme. 12. October 6: In the auto department, he practiced his 'Madonna look' by using different sizes of funnels. 13. October 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled 'PICK ME! PICK ME!' 14. October 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a fetal position and screamed 'OH NO! IT'S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!' And last, but not least . 15. October 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, 'Hey! There's no toilet paper in here!' -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sent from my mobile device ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts
I knew it would turn up somewhere. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=6products_id=28 Thanks Ben! -- Peter van Houten On the 17/07/2009 17:12, Ben Scott wrote the following: Someone just sent me a link to a company that stocks those hard-to-find car parts. You know, those weird things that only your particular make of car seems to need, and the regular stores never seem to stock. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=2 -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Don't forget Thundercats, Voltron, Transformers, He-Man _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Not until the Smurfs and ThunderCats were off, then strawberry shortcakes - Original Message - From: Andy Shook mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Totally makes sense you would know something about fairy tales. You probably enjoyed that show followed Strawberry Shortcake every afternoon back in the day. Shook From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I believe those were Fractured Fairy Tails, or something like that. They were all part of the same 30 minute block I think. Along with the old dude with the pipe who would spin the globe and then regale us with some tale of hunting Burmese tigers or something like that... Good times. -sc From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare mailto:scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
RE: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts
Wonder if they have muffler belts too? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts Sweet... I'm low on blinker fluid. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts Someone just sent me a link to a company that stocks those hard-to-find car parts. You know, those weird things that only your particular make of car seems to need, and the regular stores never seem to stock. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=2 -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Server 2008 and Windows Updates
Try reentering the product key for the OS. I have a small memory of having the same/similar problem and this was the fix. -Original Message- From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2008 and Windows Updates Has anyone had issues with Windows 2008 Server giving error when you try to manually check for windows updates? I have a fresh install, and it's doing it. After spending a day messing with it, I rebuilt it and same thing. Fresh install, nothing custom. The error code is 80072EE2. I've google it for several hours, and none of the suggestions I've found work. Weird thing is it will randomly work, but not consistantly. This is running inside a VMWare ESX box. That shouldn't matter I don't think. It's not part of the domain yet, so no GPOs are applied. Any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Things I've tried: - Rebuild - Add 8530 to windows firewall - Turn off windows firewall - Restart windows update service - Install Server 2008 SP2 - Delete the windows update temp directory - Turn off all the IE security settings that I could find Thanks in advance, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts
If you are not 100% satisfied, you may return this product for a full refund, in no LESS than 30 days before you purchase it! -Original Message- From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts I knew it would turn up somewhere. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=6products_ id=28 Thanks Ben! -- Peter van Houten On the 17/07/2009 17:12, Ben Scott wrote the following: Someone just sent me a link to a company that stocks those hard-to-find car parts. You know, those weird things that only your particular make of car seems to need, and the regular stores never seem to stock. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=2 -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts
No, but they have the bearings http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=3products_id=10 Ronald Wulff Jr 412.288.3601 rwu...@reedsmith.com Reed Smith LLP 20 Stanwix St Suite 1200 Pittsburgh, PA 15222 -Original Message- From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts Wonder if they have muffler belts too? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts Sweet... I'm low on blinker fluid. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts Someone just sent me a link to a company that stocks those hard-to-find car parts. You know, those weird things that only your particular make of car seems to need, and the regular stores never seem to stock. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=2 -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ * * * This E-mail, along with any attachments, is considered confidential and may well be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your cooperation. * * * To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we inform you that, unless otherwise indicated in writing, any U.S. Federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (1) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state and local provisions or (2) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. Disclaimer Version RS.US.1.01.03 pdc1 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
He Man... I think he may have been gay. -sc From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Don't forget Thundercats, Voltron, Transformers, He-Man _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Not until the Smurfs and ThunderCats were off, then strawberry shortcakes - Original Message - From: Andy Shook mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Totally makes sense you would know something about fairy tales. You probably enjoyed that show followed Strawberry Shortcake every afternoon back in the day. Shook From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I believe those were Fractured Fairy Tails, or something like that. They were all part of the same 30 minute block I think. Along with the old dude with the pipe who would spin the globe and then regale us with some tale of hunting Burmese tigers or something like that... Good times. -sc From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare mailto:scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com To: NT System
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
That was the cat he rode... no wonder shook loved that show. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? He Man... I think he may have been gay. -sc From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Don't forget Thundercats, Voltron, Transformers, He-Man _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Not until the Smurfs and ThunderCats were off, then strawberry shortcakes - Original Message - From: Andy Shook mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Totally makes sense you would know something about fairy tales. You probably enjoyed that show followed Strawberry Shortcake every afternoon back in the day. Shook From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? I believe those were Fractured Fairy Tails, or something like that. They were all part of the same 30 minute block I think. Along with the old dude with the pipe who would spin the globe and then regale us with some tale of hunting Burmese tigers or something like that... Good times. -sc From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare mailto:scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out
RE: Server 2008 and Windows Updates
Yes, I've seen that here. I haven't spent the time to figure out what is going on, but I've found that you can click on Check online for updates from Windows Updates and it will work from there. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2008 and Windows Updates Has anyone had issues with Windows 2008 Server giving error when you try to manually check for windows updates? I have a fresh install, and it's doing it. After spending a day messing with it, I rebuilt it and same thing. Fresh install, nothing custom. The error code is 80072EE2. I've google it for several hours, and none of the suggestions I've found work. Weird thing is it will randomly work, but not consistantly. This is running inside a VMWare ESX box. That shouldn't matter I don't think. It's not part of the domain yet, so no GPOs are applied. Any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Things I've tried: - Rebuild - Add 8530 to windows firewall - Turn off windows firewall - Restart windows update service - Install Server 2008 SP2 - Delete the windows update temp directory - Turn off all the IE security settings that I could find Thanks in advance, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts
Entirely possible, as I shall be in 1955. -- Peter van Houten On the 17/07/2009 17:24, Richard Stovall wrote the following: If you are not 100% satisfied, you may return this product for a full refund, in no LESS than 30 days before you purchase it! -Original Message- From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT][HUMOR] Great supplier for those hard-to-find car parts I knew it would turn up somewhere. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=6products_ id=28 Thanks Ben! -- Peter van Houten On the 17/07/2009 17:12, Ben Scott wrote the following: Someone just sent me a link to a company that stocks those hard-to-find car parts. You know, those weird things that only your particular make of car seems to need, and the regular stores never seem to stock. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=2 -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Wasn't it Fractured Fairy Tales? - Original Message - From: David W. McSpadden To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. -- Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Server 2008 and Windows Updates
Ditto... -sc -Original Message- From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server 2008 and Windows Updates Yes, I've seen that here. I haven't spent the time to figure out what is going on, but I've found that you can click on Check online for updates from Windows Updates and it will work from there. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2008 and Windows Updates Has anyone had issues with Windows 2008 Server giving error when you try to manually check for windows updates? I have a fresh install, and it's doing it. After spending a day messing with it, I rebuilt it and same thing. Fresh install, nothing custom. The error code is 80072EE2. I've google it for several hours, and none of the suggestions I've found work. Weird thing is it will randomly work, but not consistantly. This is running inside a VMWare ESX box. That shouldn't matter I don't think. It's not part of the domain yet, so no GPOs are applied. Any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Things I've tried: - Rebuild - Add 8530 to windows firewall - Turn off windows firewall - Restart windows update service - Install Server 2008 SP2 - Delete the windows update temp directory - Turn off all the IE security settings that I could find Thanks in advance, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
I got there WY before you. Which seems to be a problem in another rather personal aspect of my life as well. *sigh* -sc From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Wasn't it Fractured Fairy Tales? - Original Message - From: David W. McSpadden mailto:dav...@imcu.org To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare mailto:scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States
RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
God, I so loved that show! I wish it they would rerun it. Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Wasn't it Fractured Fairy Tales? - Original Message - From: David W. McSpadden mailto:dav...@imcu.org To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare mailto:scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_06200 9 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States
Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list?
Buy it on DVD? - Original Message - From: Bill Lambert To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:31 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? God, I so loved that show! I wish it they would rerun it. Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Wasn't it Fractured Fairy Tales? - Original Message - From: David W. McSpadden To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? didn't they always show those two cartoons together one after another along with aesops fables? - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? Good pull. Did you have to hit The Wayback Machine with Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get that? -sc From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What does it take to get off this mailing list? iirc, I believe it was Boris Badenoff. -- Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? From: lee.doug...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Well, if you did it twice, you'd have 2 wrongs and 2 wrongs make a right - right? g Hey, wasn't there a character on Rocky Bullwinkle that was named Boris? Just asking. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, but David, he's been blocking this for years..and yes, I think he did really piss off a bunch of loyal list users with that threat. And that blat attack idea, well to quote a mega hit from the 70's It can't be wrong, when it feels so right... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote: So basically it looks like boris is a spambot albeit a kentuckian spambot. Sign on to a list such as this with a hotmail account. Then blast the sponsor instead of just creating a rule to delete all incoming email from nt sys admin or actually going to the website and sifting through the gui for 2 minutes to unsub. Now all the loyal list users get mad and start responding all the while he is harvesting the addresses. The old fashioned way grabing them out of the from field. Mostly i just want to set up a blat attack and leave it running all night to his email account. But that would be wrong - Original Message - From: Sherry Abercrombie To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? As if using a hotmail account is helping you with UCENOT. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Boris Elieff beli...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been blocking this for years. I would like this email address permanently removed. Until this happens, I will not only not purchase anything from sunbelt but I will discourage everyone else to not purchase either. Please respond. Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States -- Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
