RE: The future is here

[Glen Johnson]

I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a pretty nice 
resort.  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.
Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a 
couple of days.
They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
 



From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: The future is here



I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.

 

When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then 
checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an 
ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give me a 
very nice VPN back to HQ.

 

The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by the key 
card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the holder and I 
have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the room maid removes 
it when they service the room. Solution: There is a "hot" power outlet behind 
the minibar refrigerator. Get an extension cord and you can leave your notebook 
and router on while you leave your room.

 

This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these speeds at 
hotels in the US. What is your experience?

 

Leif

Admin by default

 

 

 



Leif T. Wahlberg
IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
Mob: +886-932-147 774
Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

RE: What Will You Do With Win7?

[Ray]

I think in our case it'll be a slow adoption.  We still have old printers,
we still have old access dbs, etc, in use, we even have some wordperfect in
use. Heck, until last month we were still using an app on NT4.  



-Original Message-
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What Will You Do With Win7?

Been there done that, but some of the options were incorrect.  We have
already deployed Win7 on approximately 10% of our computers, but then again
we are a small shop.  We will be at about 35% by the end of October if we
can get the one last software update from a vendor that we need for them to
even support Vista.  Well that is if their Vista update which just came out
September 23rd of 2009, will work with Win7.



-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: What Will You Do With Win7?
Importance: High

What Will You Do With Win7?

Microsoft will officially launch Windows 7 on October 22nd in NYC. Are
you excited or underwhelmed? Sunbelt Software and ITIC would like your
opinion. We've created a short survey - it's just eight (8) questions
and should take you only about one minute to complete. All responses are
kept confidential. And once again, anyone who completes the survey is
eligible to win one of two (2) free iPods, and two (2) VIPRE Unlimited
Home Site Licenses. To be eligible to win, you must leave your Email
address along with your comment in the Question 8 comment box. Here's
the link to the survey:
http://www.wservernews.com/091012-Survey 


Warm regards,



..

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

To All: Setback

[Daniel Rodriguez]

Update on my current conditon.

As some of you know I had a 5-1/2 heart bypass done at the end of July of
this year. I have been at home, and out of work, recuperating. Everything
has been going great. I have been doing cardio-rehab for the past three
weeks and had been looking forward to be release to go back to work.

But something happenend this past Monday.

I went to the cardiologist and he cleared me to go back to work on Monday
morning. That afternoon, I started to have some heart palpitations. I told
my wife about this. We both just concluded that I was just excited because I
was going back to work.

On Tuesday evening, I was going to make an apple pie, sugar free of course,
and was proceeding to slice some granny smith apples. In the process I cut
my middle finger on a mandolin slicer. It was pretty severe. So much so that
I went to the emergency room to get it looked at. Well, when I cut my finger
the palpitations came back, and more severe than on Monday afternoon.

When I got to the emergency room I told them that I had had heart bypass and
that I was currently having heart palpitations. They hooked me up to a heart
monitor and they did not look pleased. It was showing that my heart was
skipping a beat. They gave me three nitro tablets and that seemed to help.
About an hour later the palpitations started again. This time they gave me
nitro paste. They put this paste on a strip of tape and put it on my chest.
Again, it helped but for only an hour and a half. (They did sew up my finger
during this, got five stitches.) They finally gave me a nitro drip and that
helped. They told me that they would have to transfer me to Norton in
Louisville where I was admitted initially.

So, I got to ride in an abulance. Problem was I was strapped to a gurney
facing backwards and no siren. :( This was around 12:30am Wednesday morning.

We got to the hospital and they got me up to TCU. Now, when I was at
Harrison County Hospital they put two IV's in me, one in each arm. One of
the IV's was the nitro drip, When I got to Norton hospital the connectioms
on the IV's were different and they couldn't put in any other IV's It tooke
them two hours to decide what to do. During this tiem I was still having
heart palpitations and was coughing, even though there was notihng in my
lungs, and I was feeling awful. Once they got the nitro drip reconnected
they gave me about 2ml of morphine and I went to sleep.

When I woke up, I got to eat breakfast, but this was tgoing to be the last
meal for next 24 hours. After that mean I was NBO and couldn't even have ice
chips. My cardiologist came in and said that he was going to do an
examination in the cath lab that evening. If there were any serious issues
he would let me know. I got to the cath lab around 4pm and was wheeled into
the operating room around 6pm. I was awake during the whole process. I ened
up geting three stints put into my heart. The sad part of it was that all
three went into three of the grafts that were put into my heart during
bypass. I have pictures of the before and after of the stint operation and
there is noticable improvement of the vessels in my heart.

I was released from the hospital on Friday afternoon and now have more meds
to take than before. I will be out of work for another month, but I will
still get to go to cardio. I just have to start from the beginning.

So, this is an update on my stiuation. I do appreciate your concerns and
prayers.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: What Will You Do With Win7?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Just what I always wanted! My own little bunny rabbit! I will name him
George, and I will hug him, and pet him, and squeeze him.

;-)

--
ME2


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Stu Sjouwerman wrote:

> What Will You Do With Win7?

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: To All: Setback

[Orland, Kathleen]

Wishing you the best of luck and that you’ll feel better soon. I can understand 
your concerns. I’m sure you’ll do well, just take it easy and don’t rush 
anything. 

 

From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: To All: Setback

 

Update on my current conditon.

As some of you know I had a 5-1/2 heart bypass done at the end of July of this 
year. I have been at home, and out of work, recuperating. Everything has been 
going great. I have been doing cardio-rehab for the past three weeks and had 
been looking forward to be release to go back to work.

But something happenend this past Monday.

I went to the cardiologist and he cleared me to go back to work on Monday 
morning. That afternoon, I started to have some heart palpitations. I told my 
wife about this. We both just concluded that I was just excited because I was 
going back to work.

On Tuesday evening, I was going to make an apple pie, sugar free of course, and 
was proceeding to slice some granny smith apples. In the process I cut my 
middle finger on a mandolin slicer. It was pretty severe. So much so that I 
went to the emergency room to get it looked at. Well, when I cut my finger the 
palpitations came back, and more severe than on Monday afternoon.

When I got to the emergency room I told them that I had had heart bypass and 
that I was currently having heart palpitations. They hooked me up to a heart 
monitor and they did not look pleased. It was showing that my heart was 
skipping a beat. They gave me three nitro tablets and that seemed to help. 
About an hour later the palpitations started again. This time they gave me 
nitro paste. They put this paste on a strip of tape and put it on my chest. 
Again, it helped but for only an hour and a half. (They did sew up my finger 
during this, got five stitches.) They finally gave me a nitro drip and that 
helped. They told me that they would have to transfer me to Norton in 
Louisville where I was admitted initially.

So, I got to ride in an abulance. Problem was I was strapped to a gurney facing 
backwards and no siren. :( This was around 12:30am Wednesday morning.

We got to the hospital and they got me up to TCU. Now, when I was at Harrison 
County Hospital they put two IV's in me, one in each arm. One of the IV's was 
the nitro drip, When I got to Norton hospital the connectioms on the IV's were 
different and they couldn't put in any other IV's It tooke them two hours to 
decide what to do. During this tiem I was still having heart palpitations and 
was coughing, even though there was notihng in my lungs, and I was feeling 
awful. Once they got the nitro drip reconnected they gave me about 2ml of 
morphine and I went to sleep.

When I woke up, I got to eat breakfast, but this was tgoing to be the last meal 
for next 24 hours. After that mean I was NBO and couldn't even have ice chips. 
My cardiologist came in and said that he was going to do an examination in the 
cath lab that evening. If there were any serious issues he would let me know. I 
got to the cath lab around 4pm and was wheeled into the operating room around 
6pm. I was awake during the whole process. I ened up geting three stints put 
into my heart. The sad part of it was that all three went into three of the 
grafts that were put into my heart during bypass. I have pictures of the before 
and after of the stint operation and there is noticable improvement of the 
vessels in my heart.

I was released from the hospital on Friday afternoon and now have more meds to 
take than before. I will be out of work for another month, but I will still get 
to go to cardio. I just have to start from the beginning.

So, this is an update on my stiuation. I do appreciate your concerns and 
prayers.

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: To All: Setback

[Erik Goldoff]

wishing you a speedy recovery, and glad we were able to 'hear' this from you 
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

  _  

From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: To All: Setback


Update on my current conditon.

As some of you know I had a 5-1/2 heart bypass done at the end of July of this 
year. I have been at home, and out of work, recuperating. Everything has been 
going great. I have been doing cardio-rehab for the past three weeks and had 
been looking forward to be release to go back to work.

But something happenend this past Monday.

I went to the cardiologist and he cleared me to go back to work on Monday 
morning. That afternoon, I started to have some heart palpitations. I told my 
wife about this. We both just concluded that I was just excited because I was 
going back to work.

On Tuesday evening, I was going to make an apple pie, sugar free of course, and 
was proceeding to slice some granny smith apples. In the process I cut my 
middle finger on a mandolin slicer. It was pretty severe. So much so that I 
went to the emergency room to get it looked at. Well, when I cut my finger the 
palpitations came back, and more severe than on Monday afternoon.

When I got to the emergency room I told them that I had had heart bypass and 
that I was currently having heart palpitations. They hooked me up to a heart 
monitor and they did not look pleased. It was showing that my heart was 
skipping a beat. They gave me three nitro tablets and that seemed to help. 
About an hour later the palpitations started again. This time they gave me 
nitro paste. They put this paste on a strip of tape and put it on my chest. 
Again, it helped but for only an hour and a half. (They did sew up my finger 
during this, got five stitches.) They finally gave me a nitro drip and that 
helped. They told me that they would have to transfer me to Norton in 
Louisville where I was admitted initially.

So, I got to ride in an abulance. Problem was I was strapped to a gurney facing 
backwards and no siren. :( This was around 12:30am Wednesday morning.

We got to the hospital and they got me up to TCU. Now, when I was at Harrison 
County Hospital they put two IV's in me, one in each arm. One of the IV's was 
the nitro drip, When I got to Norton hospital the connectioms on the IV's were 
different and they couldn't put in any other IV's It tooke them two hours to 
decide what to do. During this tiem I was still having heart palpitations and 
was coughing, even though there was notihng in my lungs, and I was feeling 
awful. Once they got the nitro drip reconnected they gave me about 2ml of 
morphine and I went to sleep.

When I woke up, I got to eat breakfast, but this was tgoing to be the last meal 
for next 24 hours. After that mean I was NBO and couldn't even have ice chips. 
My cardiologist came in and said that he was going to do an examination in the 
cath lab that evening. If there were any serious issues he would let me know. I 
got to the cath lab around 4pm and was wheeled into the operating room around 
6pm. I was awake during the whole process. I ened up geting three stints put 
into my heart. The sad part of it was that all three went into three of the 
grafts that were put into my heart during bypass. I have pictures of the before 
and after of the stint operation and there is noticable improvement of the 
vessels in my heart.

I was released from the hospital on Friday afternoon and now have more meds to 
take than before. I will be out of work for another month, but I will still get 
to go to cardio. I just have to start from the beginning.

So, this is an update on my stiuation. I do appreciate your concerns and 
prayers.


 


 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: To All: Setback

[John Cook]

Hang in there, I'm sure you'll be back to the grind before the holidays!
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud


From: Daniel Rodriguez
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Sat Oct 10 12:05:24 2009
Subject: To All: Setback

Update on my current conditon.

As some of you know I had a 5-1/2 heart bypass done at the end of July of this 
year. I have been at home, and out of work, recuperating. Everything has been 
going great. I have been doing cardio-rehab for the past three weeks and had 
been looking forward to be release to go back to work.

But something happenend this past Monday.

I went to the cardiologist and he cleared me to go back to work on Monday 
morning. That afternoon, I started to have some heart palpitations. I told my 
wife about this. We both just concluded that I was just excited because I was 
going back to work.

On Tuesday evening, I was going to make an apple pie, sugar free of course, and 
was proceeding to slice some granny smith apples. In the process I cut my 
middle finger on a mandolin slicer. It was pretty severe. So much so that I 
went to the emergency room to get it looked at. Well, when I cut my finger the 
palpitations came back, and more severe than on Monday afternoon.

When I got to the emergency room I told them that I had had heart bypass and 
that I was currently having heart palpitations. They hooked me up to a heart 
monitor and they did not look pleased. It was showing that my heart was 
skipping a beat. They gave me three nitro tablets and that seemed to help. 
About an hour later the palpitations started again. This time they gave me 
nitro paste. They put this paste on a strip of tape and put it on my chest. 
Again, it helped but for only an hour and a half. (They did sew up my finger 
during this, got five stitches.) They finally gave me a nitro drip and that 
helped. They told me that they would have to transfer me to Norton in 
Louisville where I was admitted initially.

So, I got to ride in an abulance. Problem was I was strapped to a gurney facing 
backwards and no siren. :( This was around 12:30am Wednesday morning.

We got to the hospital and they got me up to TCU. Now, when I was at Harrison 
County Hospital they put two IV's in me, one in each arm. One of the IV's was 
the nitro drip, When I got to Norton hospital the connectioms on the IV's were 
different and they couldn't put in any other IV's It tooke them two hours to 
decide what to do. During this tiem I was still having heart palpitations and 
was coughing, even though there was notihng in my lungs, and I was feeling 
awful. Once they got the nitro drip reconnected they gave me about 2ml of 
morphine and I went to sleep.

When I woke up, I got to eat breakfast, but this was tgoing to be the last meal 
for next 24 hours. After that mean I was NBO and couldn't even have ice chips. 
My cardiologist came in and said that he was going to do an examination in the 
cath lab that evening. If there were any serious issues he would let me know. I 
got to the cath lab around 4pm and was wheeled into the operating room around 
6pm. I was awake during the whole process. I ened up geting three stints put 
into my heart. The sad part of it was that all three went into three of the 
grafts that were put into my heart during bypass. I have pictures of the before 
and after of the stint operation and there is noticable improvement of the 
vessels in my heart.

I was released from the hospital on Friday afternoon and now have more meds to 
take than before. I will be out of work for another month, but I will still get 
to go to cardio. I just have to start from the beginning.

So, this is an update on my stiuation. I do appreciate your concerns and 
prayers.






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RE: Patch management software question, again...

[Alex Eckelberry]

Sorry all, I had no idea that there was this bad taste on Shavlik
products.  They license our VIPRE SDK for their new version (for
antimalware) and I've gotten to know their team fairly well, and think
highly of them from an engineering standpoint.  However, as always, the
actual admin that has to run the product is always the better judge. 

Incidentally, I am seeing a LOT of attacks using PDF and Flash, etc.  I
really wouldn't just rely on WUS -- if you do, at the very least, stay
on top of vulnerable attack vectors on non-MSFT programs.  And/or run a
free or cheap VA product. 

Alex


-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

I like to think Alex spends his time making his awesome company more
awesome, other than reading every post on this list ;)



-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

>From Brian's post this Monday- "I couldn't stand Shavlik when I was
using it to patch 250 or so servers. Slower than anything and the UI was
awful over any sort of realistic RDP connection."

Also in the same thread, Joe said " Shavlik is what we're currently
using.  Looking to move away from it, possibly."

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

If you read one of Brian's recent posts to this list he created the tool
below because of his dislike for that particular product...

-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Check out shavlik 

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

http://briandesmond.com/tools/simplepatch/#PatchingWithSimplePatch could
get you there with a little work. It has a /NoReboot option available.

The price is right for your environment and the warranty is exquisite.


-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Patch management software question, again...

Anyone know of a patch management software that will allow you to check
a box to NOT have the software reboot your machine, AND will also give
you a report of servers that needed a reboot but weren't rebooted?

Joseph L. Heaton
Windows Server Support Group
Information Technology Branch
Department of Fish and Game
1807 13th Street, Suite 201
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk: (916) 323-1284
 
 



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: To All: Setback

[Ben Scott]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 5:45 PM, John Cook  wrote:
> Hang in there, I'm sure you'll be back to the grind before the holidays!

  Sheesh, you're supposed to be encouraging him...  ;-)  (I kid, I kid.)

  Take it easy, Dan, and concentrate on getting better.  Everything
else can and will wait.  Best of luck to you.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Patch management software question, again...

[Rod Trent]

Big exec shake-up at Shavlik a couple weeks ago.

-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Sorry all, I had no idea that there was this bad taste on Shavlik
products.  They license our VIPRE SDK for their new version (for
antimalware) and I've gotten to know their team fairly well, and think
highly of them from an engineering standpoint.  However, as always, the
actual admin that has to run the product is always the better judge. 

Incidentally, I am seeing a LOT of attacks using PDF and Flash, etc.  I
really wouldn't just rely on WUS -- if you do, at the very least, stay
on top of vulnerable attack vectors on non-MSFT programs.  And/or run a
free or cheap VA product. 

Alex


-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

I like to think Alex spends his time making his awesome company more
awesome, other than reading every post on this list ;)



-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

>From Brian's post this Monday- "I couldn't stand Shavlik when I was
using it to patch 250 or so servers. Slower than anything and the UI was
awful over any sort of realistic RDP connection."

Also in the same thread, Joe said " Shavlik is what we're currently
using.  Looking to move away from it, possibly."

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

If you read one of Brian's recent posts to this list he created the tool
below because of his dislike for that particular product...

-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Check out shavlik 

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

http://briandesmond.com/tools/simplepatch/#PatchingWithSimplePatch could
get you there with a little work. It has a /NoReboot option available.

The price is right for your environment and the warranty is exquisite.


-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Patch management software question, again...

Anyone know of a patch management software that will allow you to check
a box to NOT have the software reboot your machine, AND will also give
you a report of servers that needed a reboot but weren't rebooted?

Joseph L. Heaton
Windows Server Support Group
Information Technology Branch
Department of Fish and Game
1807 13th Street, Suite 201
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk: (916) 323-1284
 
 



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: The future is here

[Richard Stovall]

Sounds fantastic!

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:

>  I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a
> pretty nice resort.  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.
> Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a
> couple of days.
> They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>
>
> --
> *From:* Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* The future is here
>
>  I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
>
>
>
> When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then
> checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an
> ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give
> me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
>
>
>
> The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by the
> key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the holder
> and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the room
> maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is a “hot” power
> outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an extension cord and you can
> leave your notebook and router on while you leave your room.
>
>
>
> This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these speeds
> at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
>
>
>
> Leif
>
> Admin by default
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Leif T. Wahlberg*
> IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
> Mob: +886-932-147 774
> Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

Re: The future is here

[Don Ely]

You say this like it's a bad thing...

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:

>  I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a
> pretty nice resort.  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.
> Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a
> couple of days.
> They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>
>
> --
>  *From:* Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* The future is here
>
>   I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
>
>
>
> When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then
> checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an
> ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give
> me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
>
>
>
> The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by the
> key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the holder
> and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the room
> maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is a “hot” power
> outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an extension cord and you can
> leave your notebook and router on while you leave your room.
>
>
>
> This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these speeds
> at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
>
>
>
> Leif
>
> Admin by default
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Leif T. Wahlberg*
> IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
> Mob: +886-932-147 774
> Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
>
>
>
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

RE: The future is here

[Thomas W Shinder]

You bet it's a bad thing.

 

Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.

 

Didn't you get that memo? J

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The future is here

 

You say this like it's a bad thing...

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:

I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a
pretty nice resort.  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.

Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out
a couple of days.

They sure didn't put their money in internet access.

 

 



From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]

Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: The future is here

 

I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.

 

When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and
then checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when
I did an ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now
that will give me a very nice VPN back to HQ.

 

The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by
the key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in
the holder and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there,
but the room maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There
is a "hot" power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an
extension cord and you can leave your notebook and router on while you
leave your room.

 

This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these
speeds at hotels in the US. What is your experience?

 

Leif

Admin by default

 

 

 



Leif T. Wahlberg
IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
Mob: +886-932-147 774
Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

Re: The future is here

[Don Ely]

I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it didn't
exist...

Oh and Hi Tom!  Long time no see...

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder wrote:

>  You bet it’s a bad thing.
>
>
>
> Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
>
>
>
> Didn’t you get that memo? J
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: The future is here
>
>
>
> You say this like it's a bad thing...
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:
>
> I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a pretty
> nice resort.  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.
>
> Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a
> couple of days.
>
> They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
>
> *Sent:* Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* The future is here
>
>
>
> I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
>
>
>
> When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then
> checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an
> ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give
> me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
>
>
>
> The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by the
> key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the holder
> and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the room
> maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is a “hot” power
> outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an extension cord and you can
> leave your notebook and router on while you leave your room.
>
>
>
> This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these speeds
> at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
>
>
>
> Leif
>
> Admin by default
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Leif T. Wahlberg*
> IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
> Mob: +886-932-147 774
> Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
>
>
>
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

RE: The future is here

[Thomas W Shinder]

Some of us don't get vacations - we always work - so we always need the
Internet.

 

If the hotel advertises it - then it should be available. Otherwise,
they can really hurt those who don't have "paid vacations"

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The future is here

 

I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it didn't
exist...

 

Oh and Hi Tom!  Long time no see...

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
wrote:

You bet it's a bad thing.

 

Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.

 

Didn't you get that memo? J

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: The future is here 

 

You say this like it's a bad thing...

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:

I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a
pretty nice resort.  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.

Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out
a couple of days.

They sure didn't put their money in internet access.

 

 



From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]

Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: The future is here

 

I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.

 

When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and
then checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when
I did an ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now
that will give me a very nice VPN back to HQ.

 

The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by
the key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in
the holder and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there,
but the room maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There
is a "hot" power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an
extension cord and you can leave your notebook and router on while you
leave your room.

 

This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these
speeds at hotels in the US. What is your experience?

 

Leif

Admin by default

 

 

 



Leif T. Wahlberg
IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
Mob: +886-932-147 774
Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

Re: The future is here

[Kurt Buff]

All work and no play makes Tom a grave man

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder  wrote:
>
> Some of us don’t get vacations – we always work – so we always need the 
> Internet.
>
>
>
> If the hotel advertises it – then it should be available. Otherwise, they can 
> really hurt those who don’t have “paid vacations”
>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
>
>
> I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it didn't 
> exist...
>
>
>
> Oh and Hi Tom!  Long time no see...
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder  
> wrote:
>
> You bet it’s a bad thing.
>
>
>
> Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
>
>
>
> Didn’t you get that memo? J
>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
>
>
> You say this like it's a bad thing...
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:
>
> I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a pretty 
> nice resort.  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.
>
> Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a 
> couple of days.
>
> They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
>
> Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: The future is here
>
>
>
> I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
>
>
>
> When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then 
> checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an 
> ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give me 
> a very nice VPN back to HQ.
>
>
>
> The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by the 
> key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the holder 
> and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the room maid 
> removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is a “hot” power 
> outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an extension cord and you can 
> leave your notebook and router on while you leave your room.
>
>
>
> This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these speeds at 
> hotels in the US. What is your experience?
>
>
>
> Leif
>
> Admin by default
>
>
>
>
>
> Leif T. Wahlberg
> IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
> Mob: +886-932-147 774
> Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
>
>
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: The future is here

[Thomas W Shinder]

Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The future is here

All work and no play makes Tom a grave man

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder  wrote:
>
> Some of us don���t get vacations we always wor� so we always need the 
> Internet.
>
>
>
> If the hotel advertises i� then it should be available. Otherwise, they 
> can really hurt those who d�t have ���paid vacatio�
>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
>
>
> I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it didn't 
> exist...
>
>
>
> Oh and Hi To��  Long time no see...
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder  
> wrote:
>
> You bet is a bad thing.
>
>
>
> Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
>
>
>
> Didn���t you get that memo? J
>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
>
>
> You say this like it's a bad thing...
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:
>
> I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a pretty 
> nice resor��  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.
>
> Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a 
> couple of days.
>
> They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
>
> Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: The future is here
>
>
>
> I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
>
>
>
> When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then 
> checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an 
> ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give me 
> a very nice VPN back to HQ.
>
>
>
> The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by the 
> key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the holder 
> and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the room maid 
> removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is �h� power 
> outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an extension cord and you can 
> leave your notebook and router on while you leave your room.
>
>
>
> This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these speeds at 
> hotels in the US. What is your experience?
>
>
>
> Leif
>
> Admin by default
>
>
>
>
>
> Leif T. Wahlberg
> IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
> Mob: +886-932-147 774
> Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
>
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: The future is here

[Don Ely]

Neither am I and I'm much younger than you...  ;)  And Kurt for that
matter...  hehehehehe

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Thomas W Shinder wrote:

> Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
> All work and no play makes Tom a grave man
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder 
> wrote:
> >
> > Some of us donÿÿ™t get vacationsÿÿ€“ we always worÿÿâÿ“ so we always need
> the Internet.
> >
> >
> >
> > If the hotel advertises iÿÿâÿ“ then it should be available. Otherwise,
> they can really hurt those who dÿÿâÿ™t have ÿÿœpaid vacatioÿÿâÿ
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: The future is here
> >
> >
> >
> > I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it didn't
> exist...
> >
> >
> >
> > Oh and Hi ToÿÿÂ  Long time no see...
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
> wrote:
> >
> > You bet iÿÿ€™s a bad thing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
> >
> >
> >
> > Didnÿÿ™t you get that memo? J
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > Subject: Re: The future is here
> >
> >
> >
> > You say this like it's a bad thing...
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a
> pretty nice resorÿÿÂ  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.
> >
> > Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a
> couple of days.
> >
> > They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
> >
> > Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: The future is here
> >
> >
> >
> > I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
> >
> >
> >
> > When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then
> checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an
> ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give
> me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
> >
> >
> >
> > The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by
> the key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the
> holder and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the
> room maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is
> ÿÿâÿœhÿÿâÿ  power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an extension
> cord and you can leave your notebook and router on while you leave your
> room.
>  >
> >
> >
> > This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these
> speeds at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
> >
> >
> >
> > Leif
> >
> > Admin by default
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Leif T. Wahlberg
> > IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
> > Mob: +886-932-147 774
> > Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
> >
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> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: The future is here

[Thomas W Shinder]

Well, I didn���t inherit anything and I never won a lottery or a law suit. Like 
most people on this list J

 

If you have some secrets on how to make a million before age 70 (which is over 
20 years for me) with no 401K or SSI ��� let everyone else know ��� in 
fact,�d like to know your trick too! m rowing as fast as I can, so any 
help is appreciated.

 

Otherwise, I need my Internet in hotels so I can continue to make a buck, even 
o�vacatio J

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The future is here

 

Neither am I and I'm much younger than you...  ;)  And Kurt for that matter...  
hehehehehe

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Thomas W Shinder  wrote:

Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The future is here

All work and no play makes Tom a grave man

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder  wrote:
>

> Some of us dot get vacatio we always w� so we 
> always need the Internet.
>
>
>
> If the hotel advertises� then it should be available. Otherwise, 
> they can really hurt those who�t havpaid vacatÿ

>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
>
>
> I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it didn't 
> exist...
>
>
>

> Oh and Hi To��  Long time no see...

>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder  
> wrote:
>

> You bet ���s a bad thing.

>
>
>
> Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
>
>
>

> Di�t you get that memo? J

>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
>
>
> You say this like it's a bad thing...
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:
>

> I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a pretty 
> nice reso�  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.

>
> Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a 
> couple of days.
>
> They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
>
> Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: The future is here
>
>
>
> I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
>
>
>
> When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then 
> checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an 
> ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give me 
> a very nice VPN back to HQ.
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> The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by the 
> key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the holder 
> and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the room maid 
> removes it when they service the room. Solution: There i� 
>  power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an extension cord and you 
> can leave your notebook and router on while you leave your room.

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> This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these speeds at 
> hotels in the US. What is your experience?
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> Leif
>
> Admin by default
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> IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
> Mob: +886-932-147 774
> Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
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Re: The future is here

[Kurt Buff]

Nor am I. But I do take a few days off here and there, especially now
that I have a child on the ground. I figure I'll be around longer if I
do.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 20:18, Thomas W Shinder  wrote:
> Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
> All work and no play makes Tom a grave man
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder  wrote:
>>
>> Some of us donÿÿ™t get vacationsÿÿ€“ we always worÿÿâÿ“ so we always need 
>> the Internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the hotel advertises iÿÿâÿ“ then it should be available. Otherwise, they 
>> can really hurt those who dÿÿâÿ™t have ÿÿœpaid vacatioÿÿâÿ
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: The future is here
>>
>>
>>
>> I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it didn't 
>> exist...
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh and Hi Toÿÿ  Long time no see...
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder  
>> wrote:
>>
>> You bet iÿÿ€™s a bad thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
>>
>>
>>
>> Didnÿÿ™t you get that memo? J
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> Subject: Re: The future is here
>>
>>
>>
>> You say this like it's a bad thing...
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:
>>
>> I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a pretty 
>> nice resorÿÿ  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.
>>
>> Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a 
>> couple of days.
>>
>> They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
>>
>> Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: The future is here
>>
>>
>>
>> I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then 
>> checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an 
>> ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give 
>> me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
>>
>>
>>
>> The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by the 
>> key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the holder 
>> and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the room 
>> maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is ÿÿâÿœhÿÿâÿ  
>> power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an extension cord and you 
>> can leave your notebook and router on while you leave your room.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these speeds 
>> at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
>>
>>
>>
>> Leif
>>
>> Admin by default
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Leif T. Wahlberg
>> IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
>> Mob: +886-932-147 774
>> Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
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> ~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: The future is here

[Kurt Buff]

Just wait until I get out my walker and start chasing you, youngster.
I'll give you such a thrashing...

Heh.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 20:45, Don Ely  wrote:
> Neither am I and I'm much younger than you...  ;)  And Kurt for that
> matter...  hehehehehe
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: The future is here
>>
>> All work and no play makes Tom a grave man
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Some of us donÿÿ™t get vacationsÿÿ€“ we always worÿÿâÿ“ so we always
>> > need the Internet.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If the hotel advertises iÿÿâÿ“ then it should be available. Otherwise,
>> > they can really hurt those who dÿÿâÿ™t have ÿÿœpaid vacatioÿÿâÿ
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Re: The future is here
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it didn't
>> > exist...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Oh and Hi Toÿÿ  Long time no see...
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > You bet iÿÿ€™s a bad thing.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Didnÿÿ™t you get that memo? J
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
>> >
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: The future is here
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > You say this like it's a bad thing...
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:
>> >
>> > I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a
>> > pretty nice resorÿÿ  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.
>> >
>> > Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out
>> > a couple of days.
>> >
>> > They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
>> >
>> > Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
>> >
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: The future is here
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and
>> > then checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I
>> > did an ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that 
>> > will
>> > give me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by
>> > the key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the
>> > holder and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the
>> > room maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is
>> > ÿÿâÿœhÿÿâÿ  power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an extension
>> > cord and you can leave your notebook and router on while you leave your
>> > room.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these
>> > speeds at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Leif
>> >
>> > Admin by default
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Leif T. Wahlberg
>> > IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
>> > Mob: +886-932-147 774
>> > Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
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>> ~   ~
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Re: The future is here

[Don Ely]

Me neither, I gamble in the stock market...

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Thomas W Shinder wrote:

>  Well, I did  АЩt inherit anything and I never won a lottery or a law
> suit. Like most people on this list J
>
>
>
> If you have some secrets on how to make a million before age 70 (which is
> over 20 years for me) with no 401K or SS  т У let everyone else kno  т У in
> fact,  т Щd like to know your trick too!   АЩm rowing as fast as I can, so
> any help is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Otherwise, I need my Internet in hotels so I can continue to make a buck,
> even on   Ьvacati  т Э J
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:45 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: The future is here
>
>
>
> Neither am I and I'm much younger than you...  ;)  And Kurt for that
> matter...  hehehehehe
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
> wrote:
>
> Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
> All work and no play makes Tom a grave man
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder 
> wrote:
> >
>
> > Some of us do  ┐  т вt get vacatio  ├  ┐  м  Ь we always w  ├  ┐  ├  АЬ
> so we always need the Internet.
> >
> >
> >
> > If the hotel advertises   ┐  ├  ┐  Ь then it should be available.
> Otherwise, they can really hurt those who  ├  ┐  ├  Двt hav  ├  ┐ Уpaid
> vacat  ├  ┐  ├┐
>
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: The future is here
> >
> >
> >
> > I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it didn't
> exist...
> >
> >
> >
>
> > Oh and Hi   ├  ┐ В  Long time no see...
>
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
> wrote:
> >
>
> > You bet  ├  ┐  м  вs a bad thing.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
> >
> >
> >
>
> > Didn  ├  Двt you get that memo? J
>
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > Subject: Re: The future is here
> >
> >
> >
> > You say this like it's a bad thing...
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:
> >
>
> > I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a
> pretty nice reso  ┐  ├В  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.
>
> >
> > Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a
> couple of days.
> >
> > They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
> >
> > Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: The future is here
> >
> >
> >
> > I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
> >
> >
> >
> > When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then
> checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an
> ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give
> me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
> >
> >
> >
>
> > The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by
> the key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the
> holder and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the
> room maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is
>   ├  в  ┼  ├  ┐  ├┐  power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an
> extension cord and you can leave your notebook and router on while you leave
> your room.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these
> speeds at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
> >
> >
> >
> > Leif
> >
> > Admin by default
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Leif T. Wahlberg
> > IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
> > Mob: +886-932-147 774
> > Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
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> ~   ~
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Re: The future is here

[Don Ely]

hehehehehe, try and catch me...

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> Just wait until I get out my walker and start chasing you, youngster.
> I'll give you such a thrashing...
>
> Heh.
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 20:45, Don Ely  wrote:
> > Neither am I and I'm much younger than you...  ;)  And Kurt for that
> > matter...  hehehehehe
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
>  > wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Re: The future is here
> >>
> >> All work and no play makes Tom a grave man
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Some of us donÿÿ™t get vacationsÿÿ€“ we always worÿÿâÿ“ so we always
> >> > need the Internet.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If the hotel advertises iÿÿâÿ“ then it should be available. Otherwise,
> >> > they can really hurt those who dÿÿâÿ™t have ÿÿœpaid vacatioÿÿâÿ
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> > Subject: Re: The future is here
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it
> didn't
> >> > exist...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Oh and Hi ToÿÿÂ  Long time no see...
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder <
> tshin...@tacteam.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You bet iÿÿ€™s a bad thing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Didnÿÿ™t you get that memo? J
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
> >> >
> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> >
> >> > Subject: Re: The future is here
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > You say this like it's a bad thing...
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a
> >> > pretty nice resorÿÿÂ  No internet access in our room, wired or
> wireless.
> >> >
> >> > Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was
> out
> >> > a couple of days.
> >> >
> >> > They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> > From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
> >> >
> >> > Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
> >> >
> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> > Subject: The future is here
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and
> >> > then checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and
> when I
> >> > did an ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now
> that will
> >> > give me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled
> by
> >> > the key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in
> the
> >> > holder and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but
> the
> >> > room maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is
> >> > ÿÿâÿœhÿÿâÿ  power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an
> extension
> >> > cord and you can leave your notebook and router on while you leave
> your
> >> > room.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these
> >> > speeds at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Leif
> >> >
> >> > Admin by default
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Leif T. Wahlberg
> >> > IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
> >> > Mob: +886-932-147 774
> >> > Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
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> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> >> ~   ~
> >>
> >>
> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> >> ~   ~
> >
> >
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> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: The future is here

[Kurt Buff]

No secrets, but a Roth IRA is a good start. Living well below your
means and saving a lot is a better one. I have problems with the
latter, but am big into the former, as well has having a 401k. We'll
see what those are worth if and when the time comes.

Not only am I a couple of years older than you (I surmise, based on
your comment), I have a new child - just 7 weeks old on Monday. Scared
spitless in some ways, loving it in other ways. Definitely won't be
able to fund his college very well, though I'll do what I can.

Don't really expect to quit working, just like you...

Kurt

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 21:12, Thomas W Shinder  wrote:
> Well, I did  АЩt inherit anything and I never won a lottery or a law suit.
> Like most people on this list J
>
>
>
> If you have some secrets on how to make a million before age 70 (which is
> over 20 years for me) with no 401K or SS  т У let everyone else kno  т У in
> fact,  т Щd like to know your trick too!   АЩm rowing as fast as I can, so
> any help is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Otherwise, I need my Internet in hotels so I can continue to make a buck,
> even on   Ьvacati  т Э J
>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:45 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
>
>
> Neither am I and I'm much younger than you...  ;)  And Kurt for that
> matter...  hehehehehe
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
> wrote:
>
> Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
> All work and no play makes Tom a grave man
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder 
> wrote:
>>
>
>> Some of us do  ┐  т вt get vacatio  ├  ┐  м  Ь we always w  ├  ┐  ├  АЬ so
>> we always need the Internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the hotel advertises   ┐  ├  ┐  Ь then it should be available.
>> Otherwise, they can really hurt those who  ├  ┐  ├  Двt hav  ├  ┐ Уpaid
>> vacat  ├  ┐  ├┐
>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: The future is here
>>
>>
>>
>> I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it didn't
>> exist...
>>
>>
>>
>
>> Oh and Hi   ├  ┐ В  Long time no see...
>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
>> wrote:
>>
>
>> You bet  ├  ┐  м  вs a bad thing.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
>>
>>
>>
>
>> Didn  ├  Двt you get that memo? J
>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> Subject: Re: The future is here
>>
>>
>>
>> You say this like it's a bad thing...
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:
>>
>
>> I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a pretty
>> nice reso  ┐  ├В  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.
>
>>
>> Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a
>> couple of days.
>>
>> They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
>>
>> Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: The future is here
>>
>>
>>
>> I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then
>> checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an
>> ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give
>> me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
>>
>>
>>
>
>> The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by
>> the key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the
>> holder and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the
>> room maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is
>>   ├  в  ┼  ├  ┐  ├┐  power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an
>> extension cord and you can leave your notebook and router on while you leave
>> your room.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these speeds
>> at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
>>
>>
>>
>> Leif
>>
>> Admin by default
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Leif T. Wahlberg
>> IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
>> Mob: +886-932-147 774
>> Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, 

Re: The future is here

[Kurt Buff]

Well perhaps I won't chase you.

Perhaps I can lay a trap with a glass or two of Lagavulin...

Kurt

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 21:18, Don Ely  wrote:
> hehehehehe, try and catch me...
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>
>> Just wait until I get out my walker and start chasing you, youngster.
>> I'll give you such a thrashing...
>>
>> Heh.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 20:45, Don Ely  wrote:
>> > Neither am I and I'm much younger than you...  ;)  And Kurt for that
>> > matter...  hehehehehe
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >> Subject: Re: The future is here
>> >>
>> >> All work and no play makes Tom a grave man
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Some of us donÿÿ™t get vacationsÿÿ€“ we always worÿÿâÿ“ so we always
>> >> > need the Internet.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > If the hotel advertises iÿÿâÿ“ then it should be available.
>> >> > Otherwise,
>> >> > they can really hurt those who dÿÿâÿ™t have ÿÿœpaid vacatioÿÿâÿ
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
>> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >> > Subject: Re: The future is here
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it
>> >> > didn't
>> >> > exist...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh and Hi Toÿÿ  Long time no see...
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder
>> >> > 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > You bet iÿÿ€™s a bad thing.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Didnÿÿ™t you get that memo? J
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
>> >> >
>> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >> >
>> >> > Subject: Re: The future is here
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > You say this like it's a bad thing...
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a
>> >> > pretty nice resorÿÿ  No internet access in our room, wired or
>> >> > wireless.
>> >> >
>> >> > Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was
>> >> > out
>> >> > a couple of days.
>> >> >
>> >> > They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 
>> >> >
>> >> > From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
>> >> >
>> >> > Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
>> >> >
>> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >> > Subject: The future is here
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and
>> >> > then checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and
>> >> > when I
>> >> > did an ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now
>> >> > that will
>> >> > give me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled
>> >> > by
>> >> > the key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in
>> >> > the
>> >> > holder and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there,
>> >> > but the
>> >> > room maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is
>> >> > ÿÿâÿœhÿÿâÿ  power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an
>> >> > extension
>> >> > cord and you can leave your notebook and router on while you leave
>> >> > your
>> >> > room.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these
>> >> > speeds at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Leif
>> >> >
>> >> > Admin by default
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Leif T. Wahlberg
>> >> > IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
>> >> > Mob: +886-932-147 774
>> >> > Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> >> ~   ~
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> >> ~   ~
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

Re: The future is here

[Don Ely]

That would definitely keep me in one spot...  :)

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> Well perhaps I won't chase you.
>
> Perhaps I can lay a trap with a glass or two of Lagavulin...
>
> Kurt
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 21:18, Don Ely  wrote:
> > hehehehehe, try and catch me...
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> >>
> >> Just wait until I get out my walker and start chasing you, youngster.
> >> I'll give you such a thrashing...
> >>
> >> Heh.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 20:45, Don Ely  wrote:
> >> > Neither am I and I'm much younger than you...  ;)  And Kurt for that
> >> > matter...  hehehehehe
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Thomas W Shinder <
> tshin...@tacteam.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)
> >> >>
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
> >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> >> Subject: Re: The future is here
> >> >>
> >> >> All work and no play makes Tom a grave man
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder <
> tshin...@tacteam.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Some of us donÿÿ™t get vacationsÿÿ€“ we always worÿÿâÿ“ so we
> always
> >> >> > need the Internet.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If the hotel advertises iÿÿâÿ“ then it should be available.
> >> >> > Otherwise,
> >> >> > they can really hurt those who dÿÿâÿ™t have ÿÿœpaid vacatioÿÿâÿ
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
> >> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> >> > Subject: Re: The future is here
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it
> >> >> > didn't
> >> >> > exist...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Oh and Hi ToÿÿÂ  Long time no see...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You bet iÿÿ€™s a bad thing.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Didnÿÿ™t you get that memo? J
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
> >> >> >
> >> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Subject: Re: The future is here
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You say this like it's a bad thing...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson 
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a
> >> >> > pretty nice resorÿÿÂ  No internet access in our room, wired or
> >> >> > wireless.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was
> >> >> > out
> >> >> > a couple of days.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 
> >> >> >
> >> >> > From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
> >> >> >
> >> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> >> > Subject: The future is here
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo
> City.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk
> and
> >> >> > then checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and
> >> >> > when I
> >> >> > did an ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now
> >> >> > that will
> >> >> > give me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is
> controlled
> >> >> > by
> >> >> > the key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card
> in
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > holder and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there,
> >> >> > but the
> >> >> > room maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is
> >> >> > ÿÿâÿœhÿÿâÿ  power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an
>  >> >> > extension
> >> >> > cord and you can leave your notebook and router on while you leave
> >> >> > your
> >> >> > room.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these
> >> >> > speeds at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Leif
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Admin by default
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Leif T. Wahlberg
> >> >> > IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
> >> >> > Mob: +886-932-147 774
> >> >> > Mail: leif.wahlb...@swedenet.org
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>

Re: The future is here

[Kurt Buff]

Work smarter, not harder...

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 21:33, Don Ely  wrote:
> That would definitely keep me in one spot...  :)
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>
>> Well perhaps I won't chase you.
>>
>> Perhaps I can lay a trap with a glass or two of Lagavulin...
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 21:18, Don Ely  wrote:
>> > hehehehehe, try and catch me...
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just wait until I get out my walker and start chasing you, youngster.
>> >> I'll give you such a thrashing...
>> >>
>> >> Heh.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 20:45, Don Ely  wrote:
>> >> > Neither am I and I'm much younger than you...  ;)  And Kurt for that
>> >> > matter...  hehehehehe
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Thomas W Shinder
>> >> > 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Original Message-
>> >> >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
>> >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >> >> Subject: Re: The future is here
>> >> >>
>> >> >> All work and no play makes Tom a grave man
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Some of us donÿÿ™t get vacationsÿÿ€“ we always worÿÿâÿ“ so we
>> >> >> > always
>> >> >> > need the Internet.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If the hotel advertises iÿÿâÿ“ then it should be available.
>> >> >> > Otherwise,
>> >> >> > they can really hurt those who dÿÿâÿ™t have ÿÿœpaid vacatioÿÿâÿ
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
>> >> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: The future is here
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it
>> >> >> > didn't
>> >> >> > exist...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Oh and Hi Toÿÿ  Long time no see...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You bet iÿÿ€™s a bad thing.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Didnÿÿ™t you get that memo? J
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: The future is here
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You say this like it's a bad thing...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson 
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > pretty nice resorÿÿ  No internet access in our room, wired or
>> >> >> > wireless.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > out
>> >> >> > a couple of days.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >> >> > Subject: The future is here
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo
>> >> >> > City.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > then checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and
>> >> >> > when I
>> >> >> > did an ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now
>> >> >> > that will
>> >> >> > give me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is
>> >> >> > controlled
>> >> >> > by
>> >> >> > the key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > holder and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there,
>> >> >> > but the
>> >> >> > room maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > ÿÿâÿœhÿÿâÿ  power outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an
>> >> >> > extension
>> >> >> > cord and you can leave your notebook and router on while you leave
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > room.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen
>> >> >> > these
>> >> >> > speeds at hotels in the US. What is your experience?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Leif
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Admin by default
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Le

RE: The future is here

[Thomas W Shinder]

I think that's the ticket. Neither of us expect to quit working.

There's kids and grandkids to take care of -- and hope and change and socialism 
aren't going to make it any easier for us.

Work hard, play hard -- learn and love to learn. And teach the kids about the 
love of learning.

Actually, Debi and I always talk about this, and both of us get a smile about 
"offline vacations" and "retirement" - how can you ever disconnect? There's new 
stuff coming all the time, and that's where the fun is

That's why I can't deal with hotels who disconnect me with my livelihood and my 
learning. :)

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The future is here

No secrets, but a Roth IRA is a good start. Living well below your
means and saving a lot is a better one. I have problems with the
latter, but am big into the former, as well has having a 401k. We'll
see what those are worth if and when the time comes.

Not only am I a couple of years older than you (I surmise, based on
your comment), I have a new child - just 7 weeks old on Monday. Scared
spitless in some ways, loving it in other ways. Definitely won't be
able to fund his college very well, though I'll do what I can.

Don't really expect to quit working, just like you...

Kurt

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 21:12, Thomas W Shinder  wrote:
> Well, I didt inherit anything and I never won a lottery or a law suit.
> Like most people on this list J
>
>
>
> If you have some secrets on how to make a million before age 70 (which is
> over 20 years for me) with no 401K or S��� let everyone else 
> knoУ in
> fact���d like to know your trick too! m rowing as fast as I 
> can, so
> any help is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Otherwise, I need my Internet in hotels so I can continue to make a buck,
> even on�Ьvacat��� J
>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:45 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
>
>
> Neither am I and I'm much younger than you...�� ��  And Kurt for that
> matter.��  hehehehehe
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
> wrote:
>
> Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The future is here
>
> All work and no play makes Tom a grave man
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:48, Thomas W Shinder 
> wrote:
>>
>
>> Some of us �вt get vacat��Ь we 
>> always �� so
>> we always need the Internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the hotel advertise� then it should be 
>> available.
>> Otherwise, they can really hurt those w�вt 
>> hav��paid
>> vac��
>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:19 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: The future is here
>>
>>
>>
>> I depend on it when I am at work, when I'm on vacation I wish it didn't
>> exist...
>>
>>
>>
>
>> Oh and H  Long time no see...
>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Thomas W Shinder 
>> wrote:
>>
>
>> You bet��s a bad thing.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Many of us depend on the Internet to make a living.
>>
>>
>>
>
>> Didn���t you get that memo? J
>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:18 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> Subject: Re: The future is here
>>
>>
>>
>> You say this like it's a bad thing...
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:
>>
>
>> I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a pretty
>> nice re No internet access in our room, wired or 
>> wireless.
>
>>
>> Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a
>> couple of days.
>>
>> They sure didn't put their money in internet access.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
>>
>> Sent: Fri 10/9/2009 1:39 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: The future is here
>>
>>
>>
>> I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then
>> checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an
>> ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give
>> me a very nice VPN back to HQ.
>>
>>
>>
>
>> The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by
>> the key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the
>> holder and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the
>> room maid remove

RE: The future is here

[Miguel Gonzalez]

Socialism? Sorry but Canada has a public health care system and i don't think 
Canada is suspect of being a socialist country. Neither any of the Europeans 
countries.

I remember reading about the collapse of General Motors retirement system. It 
simply worked when lot of workers were working for the company and automation 
wasn't as spread as it it now. It collapsed when the rate of people actually 
paying and being paid was too small. 

Sorry but it's not a question of being socialist, it's a question of 
statistics, efficiency and getting more from your bucks. And sorry, the general 
idea that taxing in Europe is much bigger than in the US is completely wrong. 
Where I'm from, Spain, taxing is around 20-25% like it is in the US. We get in 
return public education system (college can be $1,500 a year) and public health 
care (one of the best systems - actually Obama came to visit Spain to learn how 
it worked) and more importantly with less litigation for medical errors as you 
guys do in the US. Why? Because the system is more efficient.

I know that the general American mindset is that paying more will get you a 
better service in return. It's an equation that is not always true. When it 
comes about hospitals, there are some articles on the internet which explain 
turn digital all medical records avoid lot of mistakes. I was impressed of 
learning how many medical errors were done just because the nurse didn't know 
the right dosis because it was hand written or swapped medications with some 
patients for not keeping the information right.

When I lived in the US, I had to admit that salaries were much higher than in 
my country (not true with other EU countries) but I was horrified to learn how 
much could cost to raise a kid. 

European welfare system is far of being perfect, but there are things that 
people shouldn't renounce (public education and public health care). It just 
makes your life easier, specially when you get retired and you have a few money 
and probably need more fixing than when you are young :)

Miguel


--- El dom, 11/10/09, Thomas W Shinder  escribió:

> De: Thomas W Shinder 
> Asunto: RE: The future is here
> Para: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Fecha: domingo, 11 octubre, 2009 2:10
> I think that's the ticket. Neither of
> us expect to quit working.
> 
> There's kids and grandkids to take care of -- and hope and
> change and socialism aren't going to make it any easier for
> us.
> 
> Work hard, play hard -- learn and love to learn. And teach
> the kids about the love of learning.
> 
> Actually, Debi and I always talk about this, and both of us
> get a smile about "offline vacations" and "retirement" - how
> can you ever disconnect? There's new stuff coming all the
> time, and that's where the fun is
> 
> That's why I can't deal with hotels who disconnect me with
> my livelihood and my learning. :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> 
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:20 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The future is here
> 
> No secrets, but a Roth IRA is a good start. Living well
> below your
> means and saving a lot is a better one. I have problems
> with the
> latter, but am big into the former, as well has having a
> 401k. We'll
> see what those are worth if and when the time comes.
> 
> Not only am I a couple of years older than you (I surmise,
> based on
> your comment), I have a new child - just 7 weeks old on
> Monday. Scared
> spitless in some ways, loving it in other ways. Definitely
> won't be
> able to fund his college very well, though I'll do what I
> can.
> 
> Don't really expect to quit working, just like you...
> 
> Kurt
> 
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 21:12, Thomas W Shinder 
> wrote:
> > Well, I didÿÿÂÿÿ�ÿ©t inherit anything and I
> never won a lottery or a law suit.
> > Like most people on this list J
> >
> >
> >
> > If you have some secrets on how to make a million
> before age 70 (which is
> > over 20 years for me) with no 401K or
> Sÿÿ ÿÿÑÿÿ ÿ£ let everyone else
> knoÿÿÂÿÿ‚ÿÿУ in
> > factÿÿ ÿÿÑÿÿ ÿ©d like to know your trick
> too! ÿÿÂÿÿ�ÿ©m rowing as fast as I can, so
> > any help is appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > Otherwise, I need my Internet in hotels so I can
> continue to make a buck,
> > even onÿÿ ÿÿЬvacatÿÿ ÿÿÑÿÿ ÿ­ J
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:45 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: The future is here
> >
> >
> >
> > Neither am I and I'm much younger than you...ÿ 
> ÿÿ  And Kurt for that
> > matter.ÿÿ  hehehehehe
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Thomas W Shinder
> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Yes, but I'm not depending on Social Security ;)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:11 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: The future is here
> >
> > All work and no play makes Tom a grave man
> >
> > On Sat, Oc