Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

2010-09-01 Thread Steven Peck
Why would they be creating random shares?

We have a DFS root and shares we create now, but even before DFS, every
share has a _r and _m (read and modify) group
created.  Support Center and Security groups here add/remove people to or
from those groups to grant / remove access.  We do NOT grant shares below
shares.  The Description field of the share and the groups are populated
with an 'owner' and backup name from the business group.  When access or
audit questions arise, query them.

Now, there are 'non-standard' shares/groups out there.  We arbitrarily fix
them to standard when we find them.

No access to the servers needed.

Steven

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:

>  The only folks with full control on the folders, is the local
> administrators, the local administrators are highly restricted to about four
> people in this new arrangement, therefore the helpdesk folks wouldn’t even
> have full control on the underlying NTFS structure because even then they
> could basically delete or destroy the existing file structure accordingly,
> which is what we don’t want.
>
>
>
> Again when I use the MMC snapin Shared Folders and point it to the Windows
> 2008 R2 server in question, as a Power user, I can’t see the folders on the
> server ( Because power users don’t have access to the root shares C$, D$,
> etc etc) therefore they can create the directory structure, before they
> create the share which creates a problem for them. I can grant them RDP
> access to the server as Power users and they can create the share from there
> accordingly, with the Shared Folders Snap-in without an issue.
>
>
>
> If they are administrators, they can do it remotely and on the server, but
> again, due to all the problems and misconfiguration in the past, and issues
> we have had to clean up, might as well take the reigns back, limit the
> access and manage it accordingly, so its done right and audited accordingly.
>
>
>
>
> Hopefully that clears stuff up.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:54 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,
>
>
>
> I never used a snapin to apply NTFS permissions, I might be missing
> something.  Does it give you something that the right click security
> doesn't?
>
> I apply ntfs permissions through windows shares.  My daily user account
> has full control over a select group of folders on our file server.  I can
> access a folder through the share and modify permissions.  In a previous job
> I ran as DA as my regular user account, because I was young and dumb, I
> adjusted permissions regularly through the shares.  Yes, it might not be
> what they are used to, and they can't create shares this way, but there's no
> reason that they can't change NTFS permissions.
>
>
>
> I may not understand your needs, either.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:
>
> I am not sure, I can tell you if I login to the server as a Power user, I
> can create the share, and permissions accordingly as needed. If I try this
> via shared folders snapin remotely, I can’t see the drives accordingly, nor
> create a folder, etc etc, as a power user of the system. Compmgmt.as msc
> snapin same deal.
>
>
>
> Actually Creator Owner has, Full Control on the directory that is created,
> but I will see if that translates to having access at the share/NTFS when I
> create it and grant them the appropriate rights as compared to them creating
> it, via power user rights.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,
>
>
>
> Reread the initial email.
>
>
>
> If someone from the server group creates the share, and the helpdesk group
> has full control on the NTFS permissions they can change permissions from
> the share, no?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
>
> As in file permissions?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:
>
> Yep,
>
>
>
> Looks like we are going to have to go that way, problem is they field a lot
> of calls about permissions and directories and not gaining access, etc etc,
> which is just going to now fall on the Server Engineering group, more pain…
> more pain, because things aren’t done right in the first place.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* Crawford, Sc

RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

2010-09-01 Thread Ziots, Edward
The only folks with full control on the folders, is the local
administrators, the local administrators are highly restricted to about
four people in this new arrangement, therefore the helpdesk folks
wouldn't even have full control on the underlying NTFS structure because
even then they could basically delete or destroy the existing file
structure accordingly, which is what we don't want. 

 

Again when I use the MMC snapin Shared Folders and point it to the
Windows 2008 R2 server in question, as a Power user, I can't see the
folders on the server ( Because power users don't have access to the
root shares C$, D$, etc etc) therefore they can create the directory
structure, before they create the share which creates a problem for
them. I can grant them RDP access to the server as Power users and they
can create the share from there accordingly, with the Shared Folders
Snap-in without an issue. 

 

If they are administrators, they can do it remotely and on the server,
but again, due to all the problems and misconfiguration in the past, and
issues we have had to clean up, might as well take the reigns back,
limit the access and manage it accordingly, so its done right and
audited accordingly. 

 

Hopefully that clears stuff up. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

 

I never used a snapin to apply NTFS permissions, I might be missing
something.  Does it give you something that the right click security
doesn't?

I apply ntfs permissions through windows shares.  My daily user account
has full control over a select group of folders on our file server.  I
can access a folder through the share and modify permissions.  In a
previous job I ran as DA as my regular user account, because I was young
and dumb, I adjusted permissions regularly through the shares.  Yes, it
might not be what they are used to, and they can't create shares this
way, but there's no reason that they can't change NTFS permissions.

 

I may not understand your needs, either.


 

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Ziots, Edward 
wrote:

I am not sure, I can tell you if I login to the server as a Power user,
I can create the share, and permissions accordingly as needed. If I try
this via shared folders snapin remotely, I can't see the drives
accordingly, nor create a folder, etc etc, as a power user of the
system. Compmgmt.as msc snapin same deal. 

 

Actually Creator Owner has, Full Control on the directory that is
created, but I will see if that translates to having access at the
share/NTFS when I create it and grant them the appropriate rights as
compared to them creating it, via power user rights. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org  

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights, 

 

Reread the initial email.

 

If someone from the server group creates the share, and the helpdesk
group has full control on the NTFS permissions they can change
permissions from the share, no?



 

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Jonathan Link 
wrote:

As in file permissions?


 

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Ziots, Edward 
wrote:

Yep, 

 

Looks like we are going to have to go that way, problem is they field a
lot of calls about permissions and directories and not gaining access,
etc etc, which is just going to now fall on the Server Engineering
group, more pain... more pain, because things aren't done right in the
first place. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org  

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:38 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights, 

 

I would manage the permissions myself. If you don't want them to be
admins, you shouldn't be making them power users either.

 

Power Users are Admins who have not made themselves admins yet

http://blogs.technet.com/b/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/03/12/421870.as
px

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

 

I am trying as a method of locking down my Win2k8 and below servers is
removing administrative rights wherever I can to the minimal level, I
have setup my helpdesk folks to be Power users on one of my Windows 2008
R2 boxes, and i

Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

2010-09-01 Thread Jonathan Link
I never used a snapin to apply NTFS permissions, I might be missing
something.  Does it give you something that the right click security
doesn't?
I apply ntfs permissions through windows shares.  My daily user account
has full control over a select group of folders on our file server.  I can
access a folder through the share and modify permissions.  In a previous job
I ran as DA as my regular user account, because I was young and dumb, I
adjusted permissions regularly through the shares.  Yes, it might not be
what they are used to, and they can't create shares this way, but there's no
reason that they can't change NTFS permissions.

I may not understand your needs, either.


On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:

>  I am not sure, I can tell you if I login to the server as a Power user, I
> can create the share, and permissions accordingly as needed. If I try this
> via shared folders snapin remotely, I can’t see the drives accordingly, nor
> create a folder, etc etc, as a power user of the system. Compmgmt.as msc
> snapin same deal.
>
>
>
> Actually Creator Owner has, Full Control on the directory that is created,
> but I will see if that translates to having access at the share/NTFS when I
> create it and grant them the appropriate rights as compared to them creating
> it, via power user rights.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,
>
>
>
> Reread the initial email.
>
>
>
> If someone from the server group creates the share, and the helpdesk group
> has full control on the NTFS permissions they can change permissions from
> the share, no?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
>
> As in file permissions?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:
>
> Yep,
>
>
>
> Looks like we are going to have to go that way, problem is they field a lot
> of calls about permissions and directories and not gaining access, etc etc,
> which is just going to now fall on the Server Engineering group, more pain…
> more pain, because things aren’t done right in the first place.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:38 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,
>
>
>
> I would manage the permissions myself. If you don’t want them to be admins,
> you shouldn’t be making them power users either.
>
>
>
> Power Users are Admins who have not made themselves admins yet
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/03/12/421870.aspx
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:02 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,
>
>
>
> I am trying as a method of locking down my Win2k8 and below servers is
> removing administrative rights wherever I can to the minimal level, I have
> setup my helpdesk folks to be Power users on one of my Windows 2008 R2
> boxes, and if they login local to the box, they can create a directory and
> share local on the server, using MMC etc etc, ( I tested as a domain user as
> a power user) but if I run the MMC Shared folders snapin as the Power User
> from my XP System ( I made the account full admin on the workstation) when I
> try and take a look at the drives, via the snapin it doesn’t allow it when
> it’s a Power user on the server,  I know if I was to make the group or the
> test user a local administrator ( which I don’t want to do, because the keep
> screwing up permissions right and left) then they will see the drives and
> create folder etc etc accordingly.
>
>
>
> Any ideas, How I can get this working with Power User only rights
> accordingly?  Maybe using additional share on the root of the drives to get
> them access accordingly? Either that or take care of all the permissions
> myself.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
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RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

2010-09-01 Thread Ziots, Edward
I am not sure, I can tell you if I login to the server as a Power user,
I can create the share, and permissions accordingly as needed. If I try
this via shared folders snapin remotely, I can't see the drives
accordingly, nor create a folder, etc etc, as a power user of the
system. Compmgmt.as msc snapin same deal. 

 

Actually Creator Owner has, Full Control on the directory that is
created, but I will see if that translates to having access at the
share/NTFS when I create it and grant them the appropriate rights as
compared to them creating it, via power user rights. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

 

Reread the initial email.

 

If someone from the server group creates the share, and the helpdesk
group has full control on the NTFS permissions they can change
permissions from the share, no?



 

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Jonathan Link 
wrote:

As in file permissions?


 

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Ziots, Edward 
wrote:

Yep, 

 

Looks like we are going to have to go that way, problem is they field a
lot of calls about permissions and directories and not gaining access,
etc etc, which is just going to now fall on the Server Engineering
group, more pain... more pain, because things aren't done right in the
first place. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org  

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:38 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights, 

 

I would manage the permissions myself. If you don't want them to be
admins, you shouldn't be making them power users either.

 

Power Users are Admins who have not made themselves admins yet

http://blogs.technet.com/b/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/03/12/421870.as
px

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

 

I am trying as a method of locking down my Win2k8 and below servers is
removing administrative rights wherever I can to the minimal level, I
have setup my helpdesk folks to be Power users on one of my Windows 2008
R2 boxes, and if they login local to the box, they can create a
directory and share local on the server, using MMC etc etc, ( I tested
as a domain user as a power user) but if I run the MMC Shared folders
snapin as the Power User from my XP System ( I made the account full
admin on the workstation) when I try and take a look at the drives, via
the snapin it doesn't allow it when it's a Power user on the server,  I
know if I was to make the group or the test user a local administrator (
which I don't want to do, because the keep screwing up permissions right
and left) then they will see the drives and create folder etc etc
accordingly. 

 

Any ideas, How I can get this working with Power User only rights
accordingly?  Maybe using additional share on the root of the drives to
get them access accordingly? Either that or take care of all the
permissions myself. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org  

Cell:401-639-3505

 

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Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

2010-09-01 Thread Jonathan Link
As in file permissions?


On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:

>  Yep,
>
>
>
> Looks like we are going to have to go that way, problem is they field a lot
> of calls about permissions and directories and not gaining access, etc etc,
> which is just going to now fall on the Server Engineering group, more pain…
> more pain, because things aren’t done right in the first place.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:38 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,
>
>
>
> I would manage the permissions myself. If you don’t want them to be admins,
> you shouldn’t be making them power users either.
>
>
>
> Power Users are Admins who have not made themselves admins yet
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/03/12/421870.aspx
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:02 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,
>
>
>
> I am trying as a method of locking down my Win2k8 and below servers is
> removing administrative rights wherever I can to the minimal level, I have
> setup my helpdesk folks to be Power users on one of my Windows 2008 R2
> boxes, and if they login local to the box, they can create a directory and
> share local on the server, using MMC etc etc, ( I tested as a domain user as
> a power user) but if I run the MMC Shared folders snapin as the Power User
> from my XP System ( I made the account full admin on the workstation) when I
> try and take a look at the drives, via the snapin it doesn’t allow it when
> it’s a Power user on the server,  I know if I was to make the group or the
> test user a local administrator ( which I don’t want to do, because the keep
> screwing up permissions right and left) then they will see the drives and
> create folder etc etc accordingly.
>
>
>
> Any ideas, How I can get this working with Power User only rights
> accordingly?  Maybe using additional share on the root of the drives to get
> them access accordingly? Either that or take care of all the permissions
> myself.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
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RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

2010-09-01 Thread Ziots, Edward
Share permissions and file permissions, they usually access both through
Shared folders snapin, but I just ripped Admin rights away from them in
Windows 2008 R2 systems accordingly, and they can't do it that way
anymore which means retraining, they claim on their part. Its been all a
mess for a while and its time to just fix the issue, and do ABE or
manage the permissions ourselves, so as to keep to the standards. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

 

As in file permissions?


 

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Ziots, Edward 
wrote:

Yep, 

 

Looks like we are going to have to go that way, problem is they field a
lot of calls about permissions and directories and not gaining access,
etc etc, which is just going to now fall on the Server Engineering
group, more pain... more pain, because things aren't done right in the
first place. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org  

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:38 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights, 

 

I would manage the permissions myself. If you don't want them to be
admins, you shouldn't be making them power users either.

 

Power Users are Admins who have not made themselves admins yet

http://blogs.technet.com/b/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/03/12/421870.as
px

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

 

I am trying as a method of locking down my Win2k8 and below servers is
removing administrative rights wherever I can to the minimal level, I
have setup my helpdesk folks to be Power users on one of my Windows 2008
R2 boxes, and if they login local to the box, they can create a
directory and share local on the server, using MMC etc etc, ( I tested
as a domain user as a power user) but if I run the MMC Shared folders
snapin as the Power User from my XP System ( I made the account full
admin on the workstation) when I try and take a look at the drives, via
the snapin it doesn't allow it when it's a Power user on the server,  I
know if I was to make the group or the test user a local administrator (
which I don't want to do, because the keep screwing up permissions right
and left) then they will see the drives and create folder etc etc
accordingly. 

 

Any ideas, How I can get this working with Power User only rights
accordingly?  Maybe using additional share on the root of the drives to
get them access accordingly? Either that or take care of all the
permissions myself. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org  

Cell:401-639-3505

 

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Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

2010-09-01 Thread Jonathan Link
Reread the initial email.

If someone from the server group creates the share, and the helpdesk group
has full control on the NTFS permissions they can change permissions from
the share, no?



On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> As in file permissions?
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:
>
>>  Yep,
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks like we are going to have to go that way, problem is they field a
>> lot of calls about permissions and directories and not gaining access, etc
>> etc, which is just going to now fall on the Server Engineering group, more
>> pain… more pain, because things aren’t done right in the first place.
>>
>>
>>
>> Z
>>
>>
>>
>> Edward E. Ziots
>>
>> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>>
>> Network Engineer
>>
>> Lifespan Organization
>>
>> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>>
>> Cell:401-639-3505
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:38 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would manage the permissions myself. If you don’t want them to be
>> admins, you shouldn’t be making them power users either.
>>
>>
>>
>> Power Users are Admins who have not made themselves admins yet
>>
>> http://blogs.technet.com/b/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/03/12/421870.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:02 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am trying as a method of locking down my Win2k8 and below servers is
>> removing administrative rights wherever I can to the minimal level, I have
>> setup my helpdesk folks to be Power users on one of my Windows 2008 R2
>> boxes, and if they login local to the box, they can create a directory and
>> share local on the server, using MMC etc etc, ( I tested as a domain user as
>> a power user) but if I run the MMC Shared folders snapin as the Power User
>> from my XP System ( I made the account full admin on the workstation) when I
>> try and take a look at the drives, via the snapin it doesn’t allow it when
>> it’s a Power user on the server,  I know if I was to make the group or the
>> test user a local administrator ( which I don’t want to do, because the keep
>> screwing up permissions right and left) then they will see the drives and
>> create folder etc etc accordingly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas, How I can get this working with Power User only rights
>> accordingly?  Maybe using additional share on the root of the drives to get
>> them access accordingly? Either that or take care of all the permissions
>> myself.
>>
>>
>>
>> Z
>>
>>
>>
>> Edward E. Ziots
>>
>> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>>
>> Network Engineer
>>
>> Lifespan Organization
>>
>> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>>
>> Cell:401-639-3505
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

2010-09-01 Thread Jonathan Link
As in file permissions?


On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:

>  Yep,
>
>
>
> Looks like we are going to have to go that way, problem is they field a lot
> of calls about permissions and directories and not gaining access, etc etc,
> which is just going to now fall on the Server Engineering group, more pain…
> more pain, because things aren’t done right in the first place.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:38 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,
>
>
>
> I would manage the permissions myself. If you don’t want them to be admins,
> you shouldn’t be making them power users either.
>
>
>
> Power Users are Admins who have not made themselves admins yet
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/03/12/421870.aspx
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:02 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,
>
>
>
> I am trying as a method of locking down my Win2k8 and below servers is
> removing administrative rights wherever I can to the minimal level, I have
> setup my helpdesk folks to be Power users on one of my Windows 2008 R2
> boxes, and if they login local to the box, they can create a directory and
> share local on the server, using MMC etc etc, ( I tested as a domain user as
> a power user) but if I run the MMC Shared folders snapin as the Power User
> from my XP System ( I made the account full admin on the workstation) when I
> try and take a look at the drives, via the snapin it doesn’t allow it when
> it’s a Power user on the server,  I know if I was to make the group or the
> test user a local administrator ( which I don’t want to do, because the keep
> screwing up permissions right and left) then they will see the drives and
> create folder etc etc accordingly.
>
>
>
> Any ideas, How I can get this working with Power User only rights
> accordingly?  Maybe using additional share on the root of the drives to get
> them access accordingly? Either that or take care of all the permissions
> myself.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org 
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

2010-09-01 Thread Ziots, Edward
Yep, 

 

Looks like we are going to have to go that way, problem is they field a
lot of calls about permissions and directories and not gaining access,
etc etc, which is just going to now fall on the Server Engineering
group, more pain... more pain, because things aren't done right in the
first place. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

 

I would manage the permissions myself. If you don't want them to be
admins, you shouldn't be making them power users either.

 

Power Users are Admins who have not made themselves admins yet

http://blogs.technet.com/b/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/03/12/421870.as
px

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

 

I am trying as a method of locking down my Win2k8 and below servers is
removing administrative rights wherever I can to the minimal level, I
have setup my helpdesk folks to be Power users on one of my Windows 2008
R2 boxes, and if they login local to the box, they can create a
directory and share local on the server, using MMC etc etc, ( I tested
as a domain user as a power user) but if I run the MMC Shared folders
snapin as the Power User from my XP System ( I made the account full
admin on the workstation) when I try and take a look at the drives, via
the snapin it doesn't allow it when it's a Power user on the server,  I
know if I was to make the group or the test user a local administrator (
which I don't want to do, because the keep screwing up permissions right
and left) then they will see the drives and create folder etc etc
accordingly. 

 

Any ideas, How I can get this working with Power User only rights
accordingly?  Maybe using additional share on the root of the drives to
get them access accordingly? Either that or take care of all the
permissions myself. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

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RE: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

2010-09-01 Thread Crawford, Scott
I would manage the permissions myself. If you don't want them to be admins, you 
shouldn't be making them power users either.

Power Users are Admins who have not made themselves admins yet
http://blogs.technet.com/b/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/03/12/421870.aspx


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

I am trying as a method of locking down my Win2k8 and below servers is removing 
administrative rights wherever I can to the minimal level, I have setup my 
helpdesk folks to be Power users on one of my Windows 2008 R2 boxes, and if 
they login local to the box, they can create a directory and share local on the 
server, using MMC etc etc, ( I tested as a domain user as a power user) but if 
I run the MMC Shared folders snapin as the Power User from my XP System ( I 
made the account full admin on the workstation) when I try and take a look at 
the drives, via the snapin it doesn't allow it when it's a Power user on the 
server,  I know if I was to make the group or the test user a local 
administrator ( which I don't want to do, because the keep screwing up 
permissions right and left) then they will see the drives and create folder etc 
etc accordingly.

Any ideas, How I can get this working with Power User only rights accordingly?  
Maybe using additional share on the root of the drives to get them access 
accordingly? Either that or take care of all the permissions myself.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


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Windows 7 and unidentified networks

2010-09-01 Thread Tom Miller
Folks,
 
We are using XenDesktop here for Windows 7.  We have the PC images one two 
neworks:  one is private and one is our internal network.  The issue I am 
seeing is that Windows 7 keeps calling these networks "unidentified" and won't 
let me connect to any of the resources.
 
What's the solution for this?  I need to have these networks trusted and my 
users not constantly peppered by Windows 7 questions from the Action/Network 
center.  Possible to control via GPO?
 
 
Thanks!
 
 
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528
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RE: I hate peer-to peer so much... (was RE: Cant Browse workgroup)

2010-09-01 Thread David Lum
Simple: Draw boundaries and stick to them - that's EXACTLY what I did. The 
place I just dropped? My wife's employer (and she's the office manager), I 
basically told them the same thing I said here - "I have tried but it's just 
not going to jive with my current business model and capabilities". I would 
rather sever the tie ahead of time instead of underperform and give the 
impression my business doesn't know its trade.

Dave

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: I hate peer-to peer so much... (was RE: Cant Browse workgroup)

Ugh, I feel your pain. I'm too busy, overworked, and underpaid, at %dayjob% 
where I am requested to handle duties at a very smalltime autoshop (trust me, 
not something I want to be doing), and its all P2P.  Sure I would love to 
deliver them a full domain environment, but these are gearheads that just want 
to be working on a car.  And I am too damn busy to implement that, let alone 
train them.   I keep the sh!t afloat with calibrated hosts files.  Ugly, sure, 
but I don't have the time to dick with it.  Oh forgot to mention this is a 
favor for a member of management.  I don't see an extra dollar for douching 
around at this joint.  It's enough to make me want to just walk out the door 
for good.


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107


From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: I hate peer-to peer so much... (was RE: Cant Browse workgroup)

Not to hijack this thread - but I will - I just dropped the only client with a 
peer-to-peer network because the difference in managing 6 systems with no 
server is enough that I do not find it time-effective to figure out the "peer 
to peer" equivalents because none of my other clients nor %DAYJOB% require that 
skill. Have a server? Give me a call. Peer-to-peer? Call a skilled home user or 
some college dude.

I remember the first time I tried to clean a virus from XP Home OS - had never 
used that OS as I'd always seen the Pro versions "hey, how can I get to 
\\machine\c$"?  WTF?

Dave

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cant Browse workgroup

His mess = your profit.  Having said that, I hate peer to peer networks.

-Jeff Steward
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:13 PM, James Kerr 
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ive been telling the guy forever to get a server for less then 2 grand, so at 
the very least he can centralize his data and back it up. Practically all his 
printers have Ethernet ports and could be managed by the server, login scripts 
for shares etc etc, the list goes on and I know I'm preaching the choir here 
just getting frustrated dealing with his mess.


- Original Message - From: "Ben Scott" 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:02 PM

Subject: Re: Cant Browse workgroup
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jeff Steward 
mailto:jstew...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This thread brings back memories from the bad old days.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188305
"Remember that name resolution among all browsers is critical and that the
first thing to do is to establish a robust name resolution infrastructure
with WINS. A lot of time can be wasted trying to track down browser issues,
which are really caused by name resolution problems."

 He mentioned he can ping the other computers by name, which suggests
it probabbly isn't a name resolution issue.

 Also, AFAIK, you can't run a WINS server on Windows unless you have
one of the "Server" flavors of Windows, and he doesn't.  If he had a
Windows Server it would automatically get preferential treatment in
browser elections, so he prolly wouldn't be dealing with browser wars
in the first place.

 (Linux/Samba can also act as a WINS server.   You also get explict
control over all the NetBIOS name resolution and browse and election
parameters, which can come in handy.)

-- Ben

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Re: I hate peer-to peer so much... (was RE: Cant Browse workgroup)

2010-09-01 Thread Jonathan Link
Couple of points.
The world is always smaller than you percieve it to be.
Rants on an essentially public list are not a good idea.  I have googled
myself and seen posts I've made to this list appear elsewhere.
Favors to management may not be known by all members of management.  Misuse
of company resources is typically seen as a serious offense.  My guess is
this MoM has some financial interest at some level.

-Jonathan
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Phillip Partipilo  wrote:

>  Ugh, I feel your pain. I’m too busy, overworked, and underpaid, at
> %dayjob% where I am requested to handle duties at a very smalltime autoshop
> (trust me, not something I want to be doing), and its all P2P.  Sure I would
> love to deliver them a full domain environment, but these are gearheads that
> just want to be working on a car.  And I am too damn busy to implement that,
> let alone train them.   I keep the sh!t afloat with calibrated hosts files.
> Ugly, sure, but I don’t have the time to dick with it.  Oh forgot to mention
> this is a favor for a member of management.  I don’t see an extra dollar for
> douching around at this joint.  It’s enough to make me want to just walk out
> the door for good.
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:25 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* I hate peer-to peer so much... (was RE: Cant Browse workgroup)
>
>
>
> Not to hijack this thread – but I will - I just dropped the only client
> with a peer-to-peer network because the difference in managing 6 systems
> with no server is enough that I do not find it time-effective to figure out
> the “peer to peer” equivalents because none of my other clients nor %DAYJOB%
> require that skill. Have a server? Give me a call. Peer-to-peer? Call a
> skilled home user or some college dude.
>
>
>
> I remember the first time I tried to clean a virus from XP Home OS – had
> never used that OS as I’d always seen the Pro versions “hey, how can I get
> to \\machine\c$”?  WTF?
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:19 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Cant Browse workgroup
>
>
>
> His mess = your profit.  Having said that, I hate peer to peer networks.
>
>
>
> -Jeff Steward
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:13 PM, James Kerr  wrote:
>
> Ive been telling the guy forever to get a server for less then 2 grand, so
> at the very least he can centralize his data and back it up. Practically all
> his printers have Ethernet ports and could be managed by the server, login
> scripts for shares etc etc, the list goes on and I know I'm preaching the
> choir here just getting frustrated dealing with his mess.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Ben Scott" 
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:02 PM
>
>
> Subject: Re: Cant Browse workgroup
>
>   On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jeff Steward 
> wrote:
>
> This thread brings back memories from the bad old days.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188305
> "Remember that name resolution among all browsers is critical and that the
> first thing to do is to establish a robust name resolution infrastructure
> with WINS. A lot of time can be wasted trying to track down browser issues,
> which are really caused by name resolution problems."
>
>
>  He mentioned he can ping the other computers by name, which suggests
> it probabbly isn't a name resolution issue.
>
>  Also, AFAIK, you can't run a WINS server on Windows unless you have
> one of the "Server" flavors of Windows, and he doesn't.  If he had a
> Windows Server it would automatically get preferential treatment in
> browser elections, so he prolly wouldn't be dealing with browser wars
> in the first place.
>
>  (Linux/Samba can also act as a WINS server.   You also get explict
> control over all the NetBIOS name resolution and browse and election
> parameters, which can come in handy.)
>
>  -- Ben
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Trying to limit my helpdesk to Power User rights,

2010-09-01 Thread Ziots, Edward
I am trying as a method of locking down my Win2k8 and below servers is
removing administrative rights wherever I can to the minimal level, I
have setup my helpdesk folks to be Power users on one of my Windows 2008
R2 boxes, and if they login local to the box, they can create a
directory and share local on the server, using MMC etc etc, ( I tested
as a domain user as a power user) but if I run the MMC Shared folders
snapin as the Power User from my XP System ( I made the account full
admin on the workstation) when I try and take a look at the drives, via
the snapin it doesn't allow it when it's a Power user on the server,  I
know if I was to make the group or the test user a local administrator (
which I don't want to do, because the keep screwing up permissions right
and left) then they will see the drives and create folder etc etc
accordingly. 

 

Any ideas, How I can get this working with Power User only rights
accordingly?  Maybe using additional share on the root of the drives to
get them access accordingly? Either that or take care of all the
permissions myself. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 


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RE: I hate peer-to peer so much... (was RE: Cant Browse workgroup)

2010-09-01 Thread Phillip Partipilo
Ugh, I feel your pain. I'm too busy, overworked, and underpaid, at %dayjob% 
where I am requested to handle duties at a very smalltime autoshop (trust me, 
not something I want to be doing), and its all P2P.  Sure I would love to 
deliver them a full domain environment, but these are gearheads that just want 
to be working on a car.  And I am too damn busy to implement that, let alone 
train them.   I keep the sh!t afloat with calibrated hosts files.  Ugly, sure, 
but I don't have the time to dick with it.  Oh forgot to mention this is a 
favor for a member of management.  I don't see an extra dollar for douching 
around at this joint.  It's enough to make me want to just walk out the door 
for good.


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107


From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: I hate peer-to peer so much... (was RE: Cant Browse workgroup)

Not to hijack this thread - but I will - I just dropped the only client with a 
peer-to-peer network because the difference in managing 6 systems with no 
server is enough that I do not find it time-effective to figure out the "peer 
to peer" equivalents because none of my other clients nor %DAYJOB% require that 
skill. Have a server? Give me a call. Peer-to-peer? Call a skilled home user or 
some college dude.

I remember the first time I tried to clean a virus from XP Home OS - had never 
used that OS as I'd always seen the Pro versions "hey, how can I get to 
\\machine\c$"?  WTF?

Dave

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cant Browse workgroup

His mess = your profit.  Having said that, I hate peer to peer networks.

-Jeff Steward
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:13 PM, James Kerr 
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ive been telling the guy forever to get a server for less then 2 grand, so at 
the very least he can centralize his data and back it up. Practically all his 
printers have Ethernet ports and could be managed by the server, login scripts 
for shares etc etc, the list goes on and I know I'm preaching the choir here 
just getting frustrated dealing with his mess.


- Original Message - From: "Ben Scott" 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:02 PM

Subject: Re: Cant Browse workgroup
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jeff Steward 
mailto:jstew...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This thread brings back memories from the bad old days.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188305
"Remember that name resolution among all browsers is critical and that the
first thing to do is to establish a robust name resolution infrastructure
with WINS. A lot of time can be wasted trying to track down browser issues,
which are really caused by name resolution problems."

 He mentioned he can ping the other computers by name, which suggests
it probabbly isn't a name resolution issue.

 Also, AFAIK, you can't run a WINS server on Windows unless you have
one of the "Server" flavors of Windows, and he doesn't.  If he had a
Windows Server it would automatically get preferential treatment in
browser elections, so he prolly wouldn't be dealing with browser wars
in the first place.

 (Linux/Samba can also act as a WINS server.   You also get explict
control over all the NetBIOS name resolution and browse and election
parameters, which can come in handy.)

-- Ben

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RE: Citrix XenAppPrep

2010-09-01 Thread Ken Cornetet
I use the cloning tool from citrixtools.net

Here's the steps that I do:

Create template by shutting down an app server and cloning to template. The 
only thing I do special at this point is to delete the SMS (Config Manager) 
certifificates. Not applicable unless you use Config Manager.

Deploy template using a customization configuration.

Power up new virtual and let customization do its thing (sysprep).

Log in after reboot. At this point there is no network connectivity. Run the 
Citrix.net cloning tool and tell it to not automatically start services, and 
tell it to prepare for normal cloning.

Verify that the cloning tool fixed the DSN files in C:\program 
files\Citrix\Independent Management Architecture (it usually does) and that it 
changes the MAC address in the C:\program files\Citrix\System32\ctxsta.config 
file (it usually doesn't)

Join virtual to domain, do patching, etc.

Run Citrix.net cloning tool and tell it to start the services.

Reboot. New server should show up in AMC.

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Citrix XenAppPrep

Anyone using the XenAppPrep tool to deploy Citrix XenApp servers from VMWare 4 
templates? Does it seem to work OK in this configuration, or is it purely for 
use with the Citrix Provisioning Services?

TIA,



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RE: Network Graphing

2010-09-01 Thread Sam Cayze
Cacti on a JumpBox is another option too, to throw one out there.

 

From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Network Graphing

 

Take a look @ this http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/ you should be up and
running with a Cacti install and graphing the network in like 30 minutes

 

From: helpdesk UK [mailto:uk.helpd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Network Graphing

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I have been asked to setup detail graphing of the ESX host and the core
switches.

 

I am not monitoring expert by any means so please bare with me on
this

 

What I am looking for is a pre configured vm all I would have to do is
import it in the virtual enviroment and than point it to monitor all the
interfaces of the HP 82xxzl switch 

 

Of course the solution needs to be free as well  :)

 

I have been told by the customer that you get pre configured Cacti VM's
which all you would have to do is run quick start wizard and you are up
and running in minutes ?

 

Any recomendations ?

 

Thank you in advance for all your help

 

cheers

Peter

 

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RE: Win2K8 remote-EFS Constrained Delegation

2010-09-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Ah... perhaps that explains what I just wrote to Brian regarding the
need to access DC/cifs then...

 

-sc

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win2K8 remote-EFS Constrained Delegation

 

Hi,

 

We're implementing that here. I'll get a list of SPNs you need.

 

You're actually configuring the ability of the file server to
impersonate the end user to the DC. Part of this is to be able to find
out what the user's settings are (e.g. where is their roaming profile,
so that the file server can then go load the EFS cert)

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2010 3:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win2K8 remote-EFS Constrained Delegation

 

EFS of remote shares requires the file server be trusted for delegation
(along with the user being allowed for delegation as well). And you need
to have a PKI in place.

 

Simply delegating the entire fileserver works, but can be a security
issue.

 

Constrained delegation is available in Win2K3 and above to deal with
this, but there is a dearth of info that I can find that indicates what
SPN's would need to specifically be delegated to get this to work.

 

I found one post where the following was suggested:

 

On the file server-

cifs; ldap; protectedstorage (add for each DC)

HOST (add for your cert authority)

 

 

Now, this SEEMS to work for me, but I'm not sure if this is only because
I had previously delegated the entire fileserver and there's a setting
"left over". (I've gpupdate'd my file server and client test machine).

 

I guess I'm somewhat surprised at this recommendation, because even
though I'm performing these delegations on the file-server AD object,
I'm actually specifying services on other machines

 

Thoughts or pointers to where this might be explained more fully?

 

Thanks.

 

-sc

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RE: Old .Net App Broken

2010-09-01 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Actually, it turns out the app broke somewhere a few weeks without .Net4, I 
don't know what broke it specifically, but a reference wkst with only 2.0sp2 is 
working, I can add updates until I see what breaks, but I would rather just fix 
the app so avoid this reoccurring.
jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Old .Net App Broken

Well, you very well may be confusing yourself.

If the app broke when you installed .NET 4, just remove .NET 4. Lots of things 
seem to be breaking after .NET 4 gets installed...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Old .Net App Broken

Dunno yet, it works with .Net 2sp2 but anything past that it breaks?
I had hoped recompiling it under 4 would at least enumerate any errors in code 
that were no longer valid as some stuff does change with newer frameworks as 
per an MS doc...

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Old .Net App Broken

How is recompiling the app going to fix your problem? What actually is broken?

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132


From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Old .Net App Broken

I have an old >net 2.0sp2 'ish era app that finally stopped working. I have the 
source from the original dev.
As I don't know sh!t about programming, looking at the files in vi I guess they 
are VB.NET, I don't have a compiler, shall I just tell the big wigs I need 
Visual Studio Pro (I think that's the cheapest version) and open, then build it 
and touch wood? Someone I know mentioned a compiler I can get free from MS to 
simply build this, true?

Thanks guys:)
jlc

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Re: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread Sean Martin
Although I haven't used it yet, we use MoveIT DMZ.

- Sean

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Paul Hutchings wrote:

>  You could have a look at allardsoft as well.
>
>
>
> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> *Sent:* 01 September 2010 15:50
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: sending large files
>
>
>
> JPG files… L
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
> *From:* tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:08 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: sending large files
>
>
>
> What about if they zip the files?
>
> I did up a document a couple of years ago on how to zip up files, reduced
> the sample from about 15Mb to about 400k.
> That was using 7-Zip at max compression.
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> Regards
>
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>
> From:"John Aldrich" 
> To:"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> Date:01/09/2010 15:02
> Subject:RE: sending large files
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> Yeah… FTP isn’t really good for us..most of the people who would need it
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> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com ] *
> Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:51 AM*
> To:* NT System Admin Issues*
> Subject:* Re: sending large files
>
> DropBox, Box.net and Pando are all options.
>
> Then there's FTP, but that depends on the audience.
>
>
> *
> ASB *(My XeeSM Profile)  *
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> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:28 AM, John Aldrich 
> wrote:
> What solution do y’all use when you absolutely have to send large files?
> One of my regional sales managers sent out two 15 meg pictures yesterday,
> clogging up at least one mailbox. I’m aware of YouSendIt, but what other
> options are there along those lines?
>
> Thanks!
>
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RE: Citrix XenAppPrep

2010-09-01 Thread Webster
It can be used without PVS.  I am not a VMware person so can offer no
insight there.

 

 

 

Carl Webster

Citrix Technology Professional

http://dabcc.com/Webster

 

 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Subject: Citrix XenAppPrep

 

Anyone using the XenAppPrep tool to deploy Citrix XenApp servers from VMWare
4 templates? Does it seem to work OK in this configuration, or is it purely
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Citrix XenAppPrep

2010-09-01 Thread James Rankin
Anyone using the XenAppPrep tool to deploy Citrix XenApp servers from VMWare
4 templates? Does it seem to work OK in this configuration, or is it purely
for use with the Citrix Provisioning Services?

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re: Does Windows 2008 R2 Server Core support running applications in Compatibility Mode?

2010-09-01 Thread Christopher Bodnar
If any one is interested: 

I opened a case for this with MS, to get an official answer. Here is their 
reply:
***
Issue Definition:

Does W2k8 R2 Server Core support running applications in Compatibility mode?

Answer:

Application server is not one of the intended/supported roles. Here is a list 
of roles that windows 2008 R2 core supports. 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/r2-compare-core-installation.aspx

If you have any further questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to contact 
me.

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I'm a little disappointed in this. So it's inferred that it's not a supported 
feature since Application server is not a supported "role"? 

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RE: Old .Net App Broken

2010-09-01 Thread Michael B. Smith
Well, you very well may be confusing yourself.

If the app broke when you installed .NET 4, just remove .NET 4. Lots of things 
seem to be breaking after .NET 4 gets installed...

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From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Old .Net App Broken

Dunno yet, it works with .Net 2sp2 but anything past that it breaks?
I had hoped recompiling it under 4 would at least enumerate any errors in code 
that were no longer valid as some stuff does change with newer frameworks as 
per an MS doc...

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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Old .Net App Broken

How is recompiling the app going to fix your problem? What actually is broken?

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From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Old .Net App Broken

I have an old >net 2.0sp2 'ish era app that finally stopped working. I have the 
source from the original dev.
As I don't know sh!t about programming, looking at the files in vi I guess they 
are VB.NET, I don't have a compiler, shall I just tell the big wigs I need 
Visual Studio Pro (I think that's the cheapest version) and open, then build it 
and touch wood? Someone I know mentioned a compiler I can get free from MS to 
simply build this, true?

Thanks guys:)
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RE: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread John Aldrich
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. We're going to try DropBox as you
get up to 2 gigs free. J

 

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: sending large files

 

You could have a look at allardsoft as well.

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: 01 September 2010 15:50
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: sending large files

 

JPG files. L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: sending large files

 

What about if they zip the files? 

I did up a document a couple of years ago on how to zip up files, reduced
the sample from about 15Mb to about 400k. 
That was using 7-Zip at max compression. 

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From:"John Aldrich"  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date:01/09/2010 15:02 
Subject:RE: sending large files 

  _  




Yeah. FTP isn't really good for us..most of the people who would need it are
not highly computer literate like us. J Give 'em a link they can click on
and they're good. Tell 'em to go to   ftp.whatever
And they're lost. J 
  
John-AldrichTile-Tools
  
From: Andrew S. Baker [  mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: sending large files 
  
DropBox, Box.net and Pando are all options. 
  
Then there's FTP, but that depends on the audience. 



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RE: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread Paul Hutchings
You could have a look at allardsoft as well.

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: 01 September 2010 15:50
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: sending large files

 

JPG files... L

 

  

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: sending large files

 

What about if they zip the files? 

I did up a document a couple of years ago on how to zip up files,
reduced the sample from about 15Mb to about 400k. 
That was using 7-Zip at max compression. 

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Date:01/09/2010 15:02 
Subject:RE: sending large files 






Yeah... FTP isn't really good for us..most of the people who would need
it are not highly computer literate like us. J Give 'em a link they can
click on and they're good. Tell 'em to go to ftp.whatever
  And they're lost. J 
  

  
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 ] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:51 AM
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Subject: Re: sending large files 
  
DropBox, Box.net and Pando are all options. 
  
Then there's FTP, but that depends on the audience. 



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One of my regional sales managers sent out two 15 meg pictures
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what other options are there along those lines? 
  
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RE: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread John Aldrich
JPG files. L

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
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What about if they zip the files? 

I did up a document a couple of years ago on how to zip up files, reduced
the sample from about 15Mb to about 400k. 
That was using 7-Zip at max compression. 

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From:"John Aldrich"  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date:01/09/2010 15:02 
Subject:RE: sending large files 

  _  




Yeah. FTP isn't really good for us..most of the people who would need it are
not highly computer literate like us. J Give 'em a link they can click on
and they're good. Tell 'em to go to   ftp.whatever
And they're lost. J 
  
John-AldrichTile-Tools
  
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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: sending large files 
  
DropBox, Box.net and Pando are all options. 
  
Then there's FTP, but that depends on the audience. 



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Re: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread IS Technical
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 09:28:59 -0400, John Aldrich wrote:

>What solution do y'all use when you absolutely have to 
send large files? One
>of my regional sales managers sent out two 15 meg 
pictures yesterday,
>clogging up at least one mailbox. I'm aware of 
YouSendIt, but what other
>options are there along those lines?

I like Gygan.




> 

>Thanks!

> 

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Re: MS Access 2003 Issues

2010-09-01 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Robert Jackson  wrote:
> We are having an issue currently where we try to open an Access 2000
> database with MS Access 2003 – it just crashes. We’ve tried converting said
> database direct to 2003.

  Explain "just crashes".  Error message?

  Have you tried doing a "Repair and compact" on the database?  I
would expect a conversion to do the same, but maybe not.

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Re: MS Access 2003 Issues

2010-09-01 Thread tony patton
Any time I've come across this, it usually turned out to be one of the 
following:

1. Corrupt database
2. Security settings in Macro Security
3. User profile issue

Can you restore from the backup and see if that opens?

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Subject:MS Access 2003 Issues



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Re: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread Jeff Steward
I will add Trueshare into the mix as well.

-Jeff Steward

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> DropBox, Box.net and Pando are all options.
>
> Then there's FTP, but that depends on the audience.
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>> One of my regional sales managers sent out two 15 meg pictures yesterday,
>> clogging up at least one mailbox. I’m aware of YouSendIt, but what other
>> options are there along those lines?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
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Re: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread Jeff Steward
I will add Trueshare into the mix as well.

-Jeff Steward

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> DropBox, Box.net and Pando are all options.
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>>  What solution do y’all use when you absolutely have to send large files?
>> One of my regional sales managers sent out two 15 meg pictures yesterday,
>> clogging up at least one mailbox. I’m aware of YouSendIt, but what other
>> options are there along those lines?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
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RE: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread John Aldrich
Yeah. FTP isn't really good for us..most of the people who would need it are
not highly computer literate like us. J Give 'em a link they can click on
and they're good. Tell 'em to go to ftp.whatever And they're lost. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: sending large files

 

DropBox, Box.net and Pando are all options.

 

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Re: I hate peer-to peer so much... (was RE: Cant Browse workgroup)

2010-09-01 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:25 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> I just dropped the only client with a peer-to-peer network because
> the difference in managing 6 systems with no server is enough
> that I do not find it time-effective to figure out the “peer to peer”
> equivalents ...

  You just need a surcharge for non-server environments.  Either they
see the light, they quit on you, or they make it worth your while.  :)

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MS Access 2003 Issues

2010-09-01 Thread Robert Jackson
We are having an issue currently where we try to open an Access 2000
database with MS Access 2003 - it just crashes. We've tried converting
said database direct to 2003. Again when we attempt to open, it crashes.
The databases uses forms and embedded VB. The O/S of the server is
Windows 2003 R2 Std Server running Terminal Services.

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Re: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread Andrew S. Baker
DropBox, Box.net and Pando are all options.

Then there's FTP, but that depends on the audience.



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On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:28 AM, John Aldrich
wrote:

>  What solution do y’all use when you absolutely have to send large files?
> One of my regional sales managers sent out two 15 meg pictures yesterday,
> clogging up at least one mailbox. I’m aware of YouSendIt, but what other
> options are there along those lines?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
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RE: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread John Aldrich
Nice! Up to 2 Gig is free! J 15 or 20 meg shouldn’t be a problem… have to look 
into how the sharing works there, though… J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: sending large files

 

Dropbox comes to mind.

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:28 AM, John Aldrich  
wrote:

What solution do y’all use when you absolutely have to send large files? One of 
my regional sales managers sent out two 15 meg pictures yesterday, clogging up 
at least one mailbox. I’m aware of YouSendIt, but what other options are there 
along those lines?

 

Thanks!

 

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Re: I hate peer-to peer so much... (was RE: Cant Browse workgroup)

2010-09-01 Thread Jonathan Link
I can usually convince a business to get a server.  Usually telling a
business that they will experience more downtime (individually or
collectively) and have increased support costs due to extra time required to
diagnose issues like the one that kicked this discussion off.

Note, you didn't hijack the thread, if you rename it, it's not a hijack.



On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:25 AM, David Lum  wrote:

>  Not to hijack this thread – but I will - I just dropped the only client
> with a peer-to-peer network because the difference in managing 6 systems
> with no server is enough that I do not find it time-effective to figure out
> the “peer to peer” equivalents because none of my other clients nor %DAYJOB%
> require that skill. Have a server? Give me a call. Peer-to-peer? Call a
> skilled home user or some college dude.
>
>
>
> I remember the first time I tried to clean a virus from XP Home OS – had
> never used that OS as I’d always seen the Pro versions “hey, how can I get
> to \\machine\c$”?  WTF?
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:19 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Cant Browse workgroup
>
>
>
> His mess = your profit.  Having said that, I hate peer to peer networks.
>
>
>
> -Jeff Steward
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:13 PM, James Kerr  wrote:
>
> Ive been telling the guy forever to get a server for less then 2 grand, so
> at the very least he can centralize his data and back it up. Practically all
> his printers have Ethernet ports and could be managed by the server, login
> scripts for shares etc etc, the list goes on and I know I'm preaching the
> choir here just getting frustrated dealing with his mess.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Ben Scott" 
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:02 PM
>
>
> Subject: Re: Cant Browse workgroup
>
>   On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jeff Steward 
> wrote:
>
> This thread brings back memories from the bad old days.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188305
> "Remember that name resolution among all browsers is critical and that the
> first thing to do is to establish a robust name resolution infrastructure
> with WINS. A lot of time can be wasted trying to track down browser issues,
> which are really caused by name resolution problems."
>
>
>  He mentioned he can ping the other computers by name, which suggests
> it probabbly isn't a name resolution issue.
>
>  Also, AFAIK, you can't run a WINS server on Windows unless you have
> one of the "Server" flavors of Windows, and he doesn't.  If he had a
> Windows Server it would automatically get preferential treatment in
> browser elections, so he prolly wouldn't be dealing with browser wars
> in the first place.
>
>  (Linux/Samba can also act as a WINS server.   You also get explict
> control over all the NetBIOS name resolution and browse and election
> parameters, which can come in handy.)
>
> -- Ben
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RE: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread Paul Hutchings
Accellion are very good.

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: 01 September 2010 14:29
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: sending large files

 

What solution do y'all use when you absolutely have to send large files?
One of my regional sales managers sent out two 15 meg pictures
yesterday, clogging up at least one mailbox. I'm aware of YouSendIt, but
what other options are there along those lines?

 

Thanks!

 

  

 

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Re: sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread Daniel Rodriguez
Dropbox comes to mind.

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:28 AM, John Aldrich
wrote:

>  What solution do y’all use when you absolutely have to send large files?
> One of my regional sales managers sent out two 15 meg pictures yesterday,
> clogging up at least one mailbox. I’m aware of YouSendIt, but what other
> options are there along those lines?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
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RE: Cant Browse workgroup

2010-09-01 Thread David Lum
Whoa...thanks for that link!

Dave

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cant Browse workgroup

Well, then hope you can get him to budget for Aurora when it comes out.
http://www.winsupersite.com/server/aurora.asp

Have a good weekend.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:00 PM, James Kerr 
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
He has about 20 workstations. I went ahead and made one machine the browser and 
disabled on all the others browser service and its all good now, through the 
miracle of technology and the ntsysadmin list, the XP machine can now browse 
the network and the other machines can now see the XP box. Thanks for the help 
guys, I was getting nowhere on google and getting frustrated.

James (Who can now spend time with his wife and kids instead of rebuilding a 
box tonight)



On 8/31/2010 5:33 PM, Steven Peck wrote:
If he has less then 10 systems get a Windows Home Server (or Vail when it comes 
out) and centralize data shares there + printers.  Added benefits of it pops up 
and complains when someones AV is out of date.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:13 PM, James Kerr 
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ive been telling the guy forever to get a server for less then 2 grand, so at 
the very least he can centralize his data and back it up. Practically all his 
printers have Ethernet ports and could be managed by the server, login scripts 
for shares etc etc, the list goes on and I know I'm preaching the choir here 
just getting frustrated dealing with his mess.


- Original Message - From: "Ben Scott" 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:02 PM

Subject: Re: Cant Browse workgroup

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jeff Steward 
mailto:jstew...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This thread brings back memories from the bad old days.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188305
"Remember that name resolution among all browsers is critical and that the
first thing to do is to establish a robust name resolution infrastructure
with WINS. A lot of time can be wasted trying to track down browser issues,
which are really caused by name resolution problems."

 He mentioned he can ping the other computers by name, which suggests
it probabbly isn't a name resolution issue.

 Also, AFAIK, you can't run a WINS server on Windows unless you have
one of the "Server" flavors of Windows, and he doesn't.  If he had a
Windows Server it would automatically get preferential treatment in
browser elections, so he prolly wouldn't be dealing with browser wars
in the first place.

 (Linux/Samba can also act as a WINS server.   You also get explict
control over all the NetBIOS name resolution and browse and election
parameters, which can come in handy.)

-- Ben

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sending large files

2010-09-01 Thread John Aldrich
What solution do y'all use when you absolutely have to send large files? One
of my regional sales managers sent out two 15 meg pictures yesterday,
clogging up at least one mailbox. I'm aware of YouSendIt, but what other
options are there along those lines?

 

Thanks!

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 


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I hate peer-to peer so much... (was RE: Cant Browse workgroup)

2010-09-01 Thread David Lum
Not to hijack this thread - but I will - I just dropped the only client with a 
peer-to-peer network because the difference in managing 6 systems with no 
server is enough that I do not find it time-effective to figure out the "peer 
to peer" equivalents because none of my other clients nor %DAYJOB% require that 
skill. Have a server? Give me a call. Peer-to-peer? Call a skilled home user or 
some college dude.

I remember the first time I tried to clean a virus from XP Home OS - had never 
used that OS as I'd always seen the Pro versions "hey, how can I get to 
\\machine\c$"?  WTF?

Dave

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cant Browse workgroup

His mess = your profit.  Having said that, I hate peer to peer networks.

-Jeff Steward
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:13 PM, James Kerr 
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ive been telling the guy forever to get a server for less then 2 grand, so at 
the very least he can centralize his data and back it up. Practically all his 
printers have Ethernet ports and could be managed by the server, login scripts 
for shares etc etc, the list goes on and I know I'm preaching the choir here 
just getting frustrated dealing with his mess.


- Original Message - From: "Ben Scott" 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:02 PM

Subject: Re: Cant Browse workgroup

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jeff Steward 
mailto:jstew...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This thread brings back memories from the bad old days.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188305
"Remember that name resolution among all browsers is critical and that the
first thing to do is to establish a robust name resolution infrastructure
with WINS. A lot of time can be wasted trying to track down browser issues,
which are really caused by name resolution problems."

 He mentioned he can ping the other computers by name, which suggests
it probabbly isn't a name resolution issue.

 Also, AFAIK, you can't run a WINS server on Windows unless you have
one of the "Server" flavors of Windows, and he doesn't.  If he had a
Windows Server it would automatically get preferential treatment in
browser elections, so he prolly wouldn't be dealing with browser wars
in the first place.

 (Linux/Samba can also act as a WINS server.   You also get explict
control over all the NetBIOS name resolution and browse and election
parameters, which can come in handy.)

-- Ben

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RE: OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home

2010-09-01 Thread Don Guyer
LOL...she's pretty much on point!

 

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From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 3:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home

 

The shows we make a point of watching are True Blood, Spartacus, Cougar
Town & The Good Wife. 
She has renamed the first 2 vampire p0rn and gladiator p0rn :) 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 



From:"Don Guyer"  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"
 
Date:31/08/2010 16:49 
Subject:RE: OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home 






Actually, most of the shows she watches, I watch as well. True Blood,
Rescue Me, Entourage, and a lot of comedies, etc, etc. I can't stand the
talent and ER-type shows that she watches. 
  
Don Guyer 
Systems Engineer - Information Services 
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group 
431 W. Lancaster Avenue 
Devon, PA 19333 
Direct: (610) 993-3299 
Fax: (610) 650-5306 
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com   
  
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 ] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home 
  
I hate EastEnders. It is possibly the most depressing program on the
face of the Earth. At least Coronation Street gives you the odd laugh
(and no, I don't watch them, I just can hear them when I'm playing
Football Manager in the next room) 
On 31 August 2010 16:17, tony patton 
wrote: 
+1 

At least I get to miss Emmerdale, Coronation St & Eastenders. 

I don't know if you lot on the other side of the Atlantic from here have
similar crap[1] or even if you know what the programs are, but about
99.9% of women-folk in Ireland and the UK watch them. 

Regards

Tony Patton
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Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
  

[1] Knowing you yanks, you probably have a hell of a lot worse :) 



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To:"NT System Admin Issues"
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Date:31/08/2010 15:41 
Subject:OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home 

 







Mine's quite the opposite. When I get on the PC at night, I relinquish
control of the TV remote to her and she gets to watch what she wants.

:)

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RE: Another reason why VM's are grrrrrreat!

2010-09-01 Thread N Parr
In this case it was ok since it was a stand alone DC.  Just my home
network with exchange and few pc's.



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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Another reason why VM's are grreat!


Yeah, not sure I would ever restore a DC to a backup, unless it was the
last one, otherwise, I Would myself prefer to just rebuild it 

Nice recovery though on the chkdsk



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To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

Date:   09/01/2010 08:31 AM 
Subject:Another reason why VM's are grreat!






So I shut down a DC VM yesterday and go to turn it back on and get a
hosed ntoskrnl.exe upon boot.  Great, another learning experience
brought to you by Tuesday, the new Monday.  Restore the VM Backup from
day before and still have the error.  So the virtual disk has been
fragged for a while.  I try booting off install iso and restoring the
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assume your backups are good.  Even if you can restore them, if you
haven't booted them then you can't be sure, what a pain. 

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Re: Another reason why VM's are grrrrrreat!

2010-09-01 Thread Ron . Wulff
Yeah, not sure I would ever restore a DC to a backup, unless it was the 
last one, otherwise, I Would myself prefer to just rebuild it

Nice recovery though on the chkdsk


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Another reason why VM's are grreat!



So I shut down a DC VM yesterday and go to turn it back on and get a hosed 
ntoskrnl.exe upon boot.  Great, another learning experience brought to you 
by Tuesday, the new Monday.  Restore the VM Backup from day before and 
still have the error.  So the virtual disk has been fragged for a while. I 
try booting off install iso and restoring the file and get errors trying 
to restore the corrupt file, so the disk is really in bad shape.  Last 
ditch effort I attach the virtual disk to another server and run chkdsk on 
it.  Viola, It finds a ton of file and index errors and fixes them. 
Detach, power on DC and it boots up with no problem.  So if I would have 
done that in the first place it would have taken me an whole five minutes. 
 So the moral of the story is don't assume your backups are good.  Even if 
you can restore them, if you haven't booted them then you can't be sure, 
what a pain.
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Another reason why VM's are grrrrrreat!

2010-09-01 Thread N Parr
So I shut down a DC VM yesterday and go to turn it back on and get a
hosed ntoskrnl.exe upon boot.  Great, another learning experience
brought to you by Tuesday, the new Monday.  Restore the VM Backup from
day before and still have the error.  So the virtual disk has been
fragged for a while.  I try booting off install iso and restoring the
file and get errors trying to restore the corrupt file, so the disk is
really in bad shape.  Last ditch effort I attach the virtual disk to
another server and run chkdsk on it.  Viola, It finds a ton of file and
index errors and fixes them.  Detach, power on DC and it boots up with
no problem.  So if I would have done that in the first place it would
have taken me an whole five minutes.  So the moral of the story is don't
assume your backups are good.  Even if you can restore them, if you
haven't booted them then you can't be sure, what a pain.

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RE: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS shares...

2010-09-01 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
No kidding. I'm sorry, but done, should mean. DONE.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS 
shares...

Ouch. Have to remember that one. Not that my cifs services get restarted any 
time other than a DART upgrade.

-Anders
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Anders Blomgren 
mailto:chanks...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Which is exactly what it's supposed to say since it's in standby.
Have you asked or searched on powerlink? I remember seeing something like this 
quite a while ago. There's also the procedure for renaming a cifs server which 
might just help if it's a secure channel issue.

-Anders
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
For server2 it says what it should - it lists our two DCs and their respective 
IP Addresses. For server3, which is presently in standby, it says:

[nasad...@nas_control dump]$ server_cifs server_3
server_3 :
Cifs NOT started
Security mode = NT
Max protocol = NT1
I18N mode = ASCII
Home Directory Shares DISABLED

Enabled interfaces: (All interfaces are enabled)

Disabled interfaces: (No interface disabled)

[nasad...@nas_control dump]$


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS 
shares...

What does server_cifs  (or ALL) say? The celerra tends to do WINS 
lookups as well if it can. It'll also cache until a name dies, is stuffed and 
mounted.

-Anders
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Hoping perhaps someone on the list has run into this. At the moment I'm about 
to fall asleep in front of my laptop...

Situation...had a NAS checkup post a warning that it couldn't ping a DC with an 
APIPA address named *SMBSERVER. The APIPA address was 169.254.2.238.

Discovered that one of my DCs had a NIC enabled but not connected, and guess 
what? DHCP was enabled on the NIC and it had the address of 169.254.2.238...

So, disabled the NIC, ran a nas_checkup on my NS-20 Celerra, and still had the 
error. I stopped and restarted the CIFS services (per EMC support) and the 
nas_checkup came back clean. (YAY!) Then tried to connect to CIFS and no 
dice... (BOO!)

I've checked every service I can think of to check, even restarted a few. 
Re-enabled the NIC to no avail... I do know that the APIPA address for the 
disabled NIC is still in the registry, but at this point I don't think that 
matters, because the Celerra theroretically doesn't know about it anymore. The 
Celerra can ping both of my DCs just fine, and I can ping my NetBIOS CIFS share 
server names no problem. However when I try to connect to \\servername or 
\\IP-address, I get:


"No network provider accepted the given network path."

Going on 5 hours with no CIFS shares, and this is from both windows 2003 DCs, 
and two different member servers, one Windows 2003 and one Windows 2000.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks,

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com



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RE: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS shares...

2010-09-01 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Exactly...

As for searching or asking on powerlink...Considering that I was thinking that 
somehow this might end up being a Windoze issue outside of the Celerra, and 
knowing how active this list was, combined with already having Level 1 support 
from EMC on the phone and being classified as "data Unavailable" with a Sev1 
case, I figured I was better off posting on this list instead of Powerlink. ;-)


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From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS 
shares...

Which is exactly what it's supposed to say since it's in standby.
Have you asked or searched on powerlink? I remember seeing something like this 
quite a while ago. There's also the procedure for renaming a cifs server which 
might just help if it's a secure channel issue.

-Anders
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
For server2 it says what it should - it lists our two DCs and their respective 
IP Addresses. For server3, which is presently in standby, it says:

[nasad...@nas_control dump]$ server_cifs server_3
server_3 :
Cifs NOT started
Security mode = NT
Max protocol = NT1
I18N mode = ASCII
Home Directory Shares DISABLED

Enabled interfaces: (All interfaces are enabled)

Disabled interfaces: (No interface disabled)

[nasad...@nas_control dump]$


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS 
shares...

What does server_cifs  (or ALL) say? The celerra tends to do WINS 
lookups as well if it can. It'll also cache until a name dies, is stuffed and 
mounted.

-Anders
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Hoping perhaps someone on the list has run into this. At the moment I'm about 
to fall asleep in front of my laptop...

Situation...had a NAS checkup post a warning that it couldn't ping a DC with an 
APIPA address named *SMBSERVER. The APIPA address was 169.254.2.238.

Discovered that one of my DCs had a NIC enabled but not connected, and guess 
what? DHCP was enabled on the NIC and it had the address of 169.254.2.238...

So, disabled the NIC, ran a nas_checkup on my NS-20 Celerra, and still had the 
error. I stopped and restarted the CIFS services (per EMC support) and the 
nas_checkup came back clean. (YAY!) Then tried to connect to CIFS and no 
dice... (BOO!)

I've checked every service I can think of to check, even restarted a few. 
Re-enabled the NIC to no avail... I do know that the APIPA address for the 
disabled NIC is still in the registry, but at this point I don't think that 
matters, because the Celerra theroretically doesn't know about it anymore. The 
Celerra can ping both of my DCs just fine, and I can ping my NetBIOS CIFS share 
server names no problem. However when I try to connect to \\servername or 
\\IP-address, I get:


"No network provider accepted the given network path."

Going on 5 hours with no CIFS shares, and this is from both windows 2003 DCs, 
and two different member servers, one Windows 2003 and one Windows 2000.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks,

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com



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Re: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS shares...

2010-09-01 Thread Anders Blomgren
Ouch. Have to remember that one. Not that my cifs services get restarted any
time other than a DART upgrade.

-Anders

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Anders Blomgren  wrote:

> Which is exactly what it's supposed to say since it's in standby.
> Have you asked or searched on powerlink? I remember seeing something like
> this quite a while ago. There's also the procedure for renaming a cifs
> server which might just help if it's a secure channel issue.
>
> -Anders
>
>   On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
>>  For server2 it says what it should – it lists our two DCs and their
>> respective IP Addresses. For server3, which is presently in standby, it
>> says:
>>
>>
>>
>> [nasad...@nas_control dump]$ server_cifs server_3
>>
>> server_3 :
>>
>> Cifs NOT started
>>
>> Security mode = NT
>>
>> Max protocol = NT1
>>
>> I18N mode = ASCII
>>
>> Home Directory Shares DISABLED
>>
>>
>>
>> Enabled interfaces: (All interfaces are enabled)
>>
>>
>>
>> Disabled interfaces: (No interface disabled)
>>
>>
>>
>> [nasad...@nas_control dump]$
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>> Technology Coordinator
>> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
>> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
>> *www.eaglemds.com
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:05 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my
>> CIFS shares...
>>
>>
>>
>> What does server_cifs  (or ALL) say? The celerra tends to do
>> WINS lookups as well if it can. It'll also cache until a name dies, is
>> stuffed and mounted.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Anders
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
>> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hoping perhaps someone on the list has run into this. At the moment I’m
>> about to fall asleep in front of my laptop…
>>
>>
>>
>> Situation…had a NAS checkup post a warning that it couldn’t ping a DC with
>> an APIPA address named *SMBSERVER. The APIPA address was 169.254.2.238.
>>
>>
>>
>> Discovered that one of my DCs had a NIC enabled but not connected, and
>> guess what? DHCP was enabled on the NIC and it had the address of
>> 169.254.2.238…
>>
>>
>>
>> So, disabled the NIC, ran a nas_checkup on my NS-20 Celerra, and still had
>> the error. I stopped and restarted the CIFS services (per EMC support) and
>> the nas_checkup came back clean. (YAY!) Then tried to connect to CIFS and no
>> dice… (BOO!)
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve checked every service I can think of to check, even restarted a few.
>> Re-enabled the NIC to no avail… I do know that the APIPA address for the
>> disabled NIC is still in the registry, but at this point I don’t think that
>> matters, because the Celerra theroretically doesn’t know about it anymore.
>> The Celerra can ping both of my DCs just fine, and I can ping my NetBIOS
>> CIFS share server names no problem. However when I try to connect to
>> \\servername or \\IP-address, I get:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> “No network provider accepted the given network path.”
>>
>>
>>
>> Going on 5 hours with no CIFS shares, and this is from both windows 2003
>> DCs, and two different member servers, one Windows 2003 and one Windows
>> 2000.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>> Technology Coordinator
>> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
>> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
>> *www.eaglemds.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS shares...

2010-09-01 Thread Anders Blomgren
Which is exactly what it's supposed to say since it's in standby.
Have you asked or searched on powerlink? I remember seeing something like
this quite a while ago. There's also the procedure for renaming a cifs
server which might just help if it's a secure channel issue.

-Anders

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  For server2 it says what it should – it lists our two DCs and their
> respective IP Addresses. For server3, which is presently in standby, it
> says:
>
>
>
> [nasad...@nas_control dump]$ server_cifs server_3
>
> server_3 :
>
> Cifs NOT started
>
> Security mode = NT
>
> Max protocol = NT1
>
> I18N mode = ASCII
>
> Home Directory Shares DISABLED
>
>
>
> Enabled interfaces: (All interfaces are enabled)
>
>
>
> Disabled interfaces: (No interface disabled)
>
>
>
> [nasad...@nas_control dump]$
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>  --
>
> *From:* Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:05 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my
> CIFS shares...
>
>
>
> What does server_cifs  (or ALL) say? The celerra tends to do
> WINS lookups as well if it can. It'll also cache until a name dies, is
> stuffed and mounted.
>
>
>
> -Anders
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
> Hoping perhaps someone on the list has run into this. At the moment I’m
> about to fall asleep in front of my laptop…
>
>
>
> Situation…had a NAS checkup post a warning that it couldn’t ping a DC with
> an APIPA address named *SMBSERVER. The APIPA address was 169.254.2.238.
>
>
>
> Discovered that one of my DCs had a NIC enabled but not connected, and
> guess what? DHCP was enabled on the NIC and it had the address of
> 169.254.2.238…
>
>
>
> So, disabled the NIC, ran a nas_checkup on my NS-20 Celerra, and still had
> the error. I stopped and restarted the CIFS services (per EMC support) and
> the nas_checkup came back clean. (YAY!) Then tried to connect to CIFS and no
> dice… (BOO!)
>
>
>
> I’ve checked every service I can think of to check, even restarted a few.
> Re-enabled the NIC to no avail… I do know that the APIPA address for the
> disabled NIC is still in the registry, but at this point I don’t think that
> matters, because the Celerra theroretically doesn’t know about it anymore.
> The Celerra can ping both of my DCs just fine, and I can ping my NetBIOS
> CIFS share server names no problem. However when I try to connect to
> \\servername or \\IP-address, I get:
>
>
>
>
>
> “No network provider accepted the given network path.”
>
>
>
> Going on 5 hours with no CIFS shares, and this is from both windows 2003
> DCs, and two different member servers, one Windows 2003 and one Windows
> 2000.
>
>
>
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>
>
>
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RE: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS shares...

2010-09-01 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Looks like we have it figured out... apparently even though the Celerra states, 
"done" when you stop the CIFS services, it isn't really... you have to *WAIT* a 
little while before starting them again...

*SIGH*


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From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS 
shares...

What does server_cifs  (or ALL) say? The celerra tends to do WINS 
lookups as well if it can. It'll also cache until a name dies, is stuffed and 
mounted.

-Anders
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Hoping perhaps someone on the list has run into this. At the moment I'm about 
to fall asleep in front of my laptop...

Situation...had a NAS checkup post a warning that it couldn't ping a DC with an 
APIPA address named *SMBSERVER. The APIPA address was 169.254.2.238.

Discovered that one of my DCs had a NIC enabled but not connected, and guess 
what? DHCP was enabled on the NIC and it had the address of 169.254.2.238...

So, disabled the NIC, ran a nas_checkup on my NS-20 Celerra, and still had the 
error. I stopped and restarted the CIFS services (per EMC support) and the 
nas_checkup came back clean. (YAY!) Then tried to connect to CIFS and no 
dice... (BOO!)

I've checked every service I can think of to check, even restarted a few. 
Re-enabled the NIC to no avail... I do know that the APIPA address for the 
disabled NIC is still in the registry, but at this point I don't think that 
matters, because the Celerra theroretically doesn't know about it anymore. The 
Celerra can ping both of my DCs just fine, and I can ping my NetBIOS CIFS share 
server names no problem. However when I try to connect to \\servername or 
\\IP-address, I get:


"No network provider accepted the given network path."

Going on 5 hours with no CIFS shares, and this is from both windows 2003 DCs, 
and two different member servers, one Windows 2003 and one Windows 2000.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks,

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
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RE: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS shares...

2010-09-01 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
For server2 it says what it should - it lists our two DCs and their respective 
IP Addresses. For server3, which is presently in standby, it says:

[nasad...@nas_control dump]$ server_cifs server_3
server_3 :
Cifs NOT started
Security mode = NT
Max protocol = NT1
I18N mode = ASCII
Home Directory Shares DISABLED

Enabled interfaces: (All interfaces are enabled)

Disabled interfaces: (No interface disabled)

[nasad...@nas_control dump]$


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From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS 
shares...

What does server_cifs  (or ALL) say? The celerra tends to do WINS 
lookups as well if it can. It'll also cache until a name dies, is stuffed and 
mounted.

-Anders
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Hoping perhaps someone on the list has run into this. At the moment I'm about 
to fall asleep in front of my laptop...

Situation...had a NAS checkup post a warning that it couldn't ping a DC with an 
APIPA address named *SMBSERVER. The APIPA address was 169.254.2.238.

Discovered that one of my DCs had a NIC enabled but not connected, and guess 
what? DHCP was enabled on the NIC and it had the address of 169.254.2.238...

So, disabled the NIC, ran a nas_checkup on my NS-20 Celerra, and still had the 
error. I stopped and restarted the CIFS services (per EMC support) and the 
nas_checkup came back clean. (YAY!) Then tried to connect to CIFS and no 
dice... (BOO!)

I've checked every service I can think of to check, even restarted a few. 
Re-enabled the NIC to no avail... I do know that the APIPA address for the 
disabled NIC is still in the registry, but at this point I don't think that 
matters, because the Celerra theroretically doesn't know about it anymore. The 
Celerra can ping both of my DCs just fine, and I can ping my NetBIOS CIFS share 
server names no problem. However when I try to connect to \\servername or 
\\IP-address, I get:


"No network provider accepted the given network path."

Going on 5 hours with no CIFS shares, and this is from both windows 2003 DCs, 
and two different member servers, one Windows 2003 and one Windows 2000.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks,

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
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www.eaglemds.com



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Re: Old .Net App Broken

2010-09-01 Thread Jonathan Link
I think I see where the error is.
Apps compiled under a paricular version of the Famework continue to need
that version of the framework.  One of our mainline business apps requires
.Net 1, .Net 2 and .Net 3.5 to function.  You app may not compile under .Net
4 if the libraries it is using don't exist in that framework.  It's a
feature, not a bug, this is the way .Net is supposed to function.



On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Joseph L. Casale <
jcas...@activenetwerx.com> wrote:

>  Dunno yet, it works with .Net 2sp2 but anything past that it breaks?
> I had hoped recompiling it under 4 would at least enumerate any errors in
> code that were no longer valid as some stuff does change with newer
> frameworks as per an MS doc…
>
>
>
> *From:* Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:32 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Old .Net App Broken
>
>
>
> *How is recompiling the app going to fix your problem? What actually is
> broken?*
>
> * *
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *Brian Desmond*
>
> *br...@briandesmond.com*
>
> * *
>
> *c - 312.731.3132*
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:13 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Old .Net App Broken
>
>
>
> I have an old >net 2.0sp2 ‘ish era app that finally stopped working. I have
> the source from the original dev.
> As I don’t know sh!t about programming, looking at the files in vi I guess
> they are VB.NET , I don’t have a compiler, shall I just
> tell the big wigs I need Visual Studio Pro (I think that’s the cheapest
> version) and open, then build it and touch wood? Someone I know mentioned a
> compiler I can get free from MS to simply build this, true?
>
>
>
> Thanks guysJ
> jlc
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Re: OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home

2010-09-01 Thread James Rankin
I've got version 4.0. No plans for an upgrade. Performance of this version
has been a vast improvement over previous incarnations. Requires much less
attention and expenditure.

On 31 August 2010 18:50, Daniel Rodriguez  wrote:

> You're on Wife 2.0?!?
>
> Shs, I upgraded to Wife 3.0 five years ago. :) Version 1.0 was a bit
> quirky. Version 2.0 required daily patches of Prozac, and if you missed an
> update the system would go haywire. When those episodes would happen, I
> would have to reboot the system, constantly. I then found out that Wife 2.0
> was taking on different users, even though the license was for 'single use -
> only', and I was supposed to have exclusive use of the system.
>
> So I removed Wife 2.0 and installed Wife 3.0 and have been very happy,
> since. :)
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Kim Longenbaugh <
> k...@colonialsavings.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe for you, but for me, Wife 2.0 replaced Wife 1.0 as the primary
>> entertainment device.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:35 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home
>>
>> You gotta love it when a couple emails each other. Can you feel the love?
>>
>> Seriously,  does anyone else notice that the computer is replacing the TV
>> as a primary entertainment device?
>>
>> Rick Gasper
>> IT Security guy...
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:28 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home
>>
>> We have 4 computers in our computer room, with the TV behind us on a
>> shelf.
>>
>> >>> John Aldrich  8/31/2010 8:21 AM >>>
>> Sometimes we'll email each other.
>>
>> Oh, Lord! That’s too precious… sitting in the same room and you EMAIL each
>> other??? J
>>
>>
>>
>> We have two computers as well, but only one keyboard/mouse/monitor… and
>> I’m running Fedora 13, while she’s running XP Pro SP3. J
>>
>>
>>
>> John-AldrichTile-Tools
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:53 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home
>>
>>
>>
>> We solved the issue by setting up two computer systems in the room with a
>> small TV in the middle.  That way she can do her eBay stuff while I work and
>> surf, and both of us sneak peaks at reruns of 'Forensic Files'
>> or 'AFV'.  Sometimes we'll email each other.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS shares...

2010-09-01 Thread Anders Blomgren
What does server_cifs  (or ALL) say? The celerra tends to do WINS
lookups as well if it can. It'll also cache until a name dies, is stuffed
and mounted.

-Anders

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  Hoping perhaps someone on the list has run into this. At the moment I’m
> about to fall asleep in front of my laptop…
>
>
>
> Situation…had a NAS checkup post a warning that it couldn’t ping a DC with
> an APIPA address named *SMBSERVER. The APIPA address was 169.254.2.238.
>
>
>
> Discovered that one of my DCs had a NIC enabled but not connected, and
> guess what? DHCP was enabled on the NIC and it had the address of
> 169.254.2.238…
>
>
>
> So, disabled the NIC, ran a nas_checkup on my NS-20 Celerra, and still had
> the error. I stopped and restarted the CIFS services (per EMC support) and
> the nas_checkup came back clean. (YAY!) Then tried to connect to CIFS and no
> dice… (BOO!)
>
>
>
> I’ve checked every service I can think of to check, even restarted a few.
> Re-enabled the NIC to no avail… I do know that the APIPA address for the
> disabled NIC is still in the registry, but at this point I don’t think that
> matters, because the Celerra theroretically doesn’t know about it anymore.
> The Celerra can ping both of my DCs just fine, and I can ping my NetBIOS
> CIFS share server names no problem. However when I try to connect to
> \\servername or \\IP-address, I get:
>
>
>
>
>
> “No network provider accepted the given network path.”
>
>
>
> Going on 5 hours with no CIFS shares, and this is from both windows 2003
> DCs, and two different member servers, one Windows 2003 and one Windows
> 2000.
>
>
>
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>
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I've got EMC stumped for the moment and can't access my CIFS shares...

2010-09-01 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Hoping perhaps someone on the list has run into this. At the moment I'm about 
to fall asleep in front of my laptop...

Situation...had a NAS checkup post a warning that it couldn't ping a DC with an 
APIPA address named *SMBSERVER. The APIPA address was 169.254.2.238.

Discovered that one of my DCs had a NIC enabled but not connected, and guess 
what? DHCP was enabled on the NIC and it had the address of 169.254.2.238...

So, disabled the NIC, ran a nas_checkup on my NS-20 Celerra, and still had the 
error. I stopped and restarted the CIFS services (per EMC support) and the 
nas_checkup came back clean. (YAY!) Then tried to connect to CIFS and no 
dice... (BOO!)

I've checked every service I can think of to check, even restarted a few. 
Re-enabled the NIC to no avail... I do know that the APIPA address for the 
disabled NIC is still in the registry, but at this point I don't think that 
matters, because the Celerra theroretically doesn't know about it anymore. The 
Celerra can ping both of my DCs just fine, and I can ping my NetBIOS CIFS share 
server names no problem. However when I try to connect to 
\\servername or \\IP-address, I get:


"No network provider accepted the given network path."

Going on 5 hours with no CIFS shares, and this is from both windows 2003 DCs, 
and two different member servers, one Windows 2003 and one Windows 2000.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks,

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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RE: OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home

2010-09-01 Thread tony patton
The shows we make a point of watching are True Blood, Spartacus, Cougar 
Town & The Good Wife.
She has renamed the first 2 vampire p0rn and gladiator p0rn :)

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
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From:   "Don Guyer" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   31/08/2010 16:49
Subject:RE: OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home



Actually, most of the shows she watches, I watch as well. True Blood, 
Rescue Me, Entourage, and a lot of comedies, etc, etc. I can?t stand the 
talent and ER-type shows that she watches. 
 
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Devon, PA 19333
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From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home
 
I hate EastEnders. It is possibly the most depressing program on the face 
of the Earth. At least Coronation Street gives you the odd laugh (and no, 
I don't watch them, I just can hear them when I'm playing Football Manager 
in the next room)
On 31 August 2010 16:17, tony patton  
wrote:
+1 

At least I get to miss Emmerdale, Coronation St & Eastenders. 

I don't know if you lot on the other side of the Atlantic from here have 
similar crap[1] or even if you know what the programs are, but about 99.9% 
of women-folk in Ireland and the UK watch them. 

Regards

Tony Patton
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Ext 8078
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email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 

[1] Knowing you yanks, you probably have a hell of a lot worse :) 



From:"Don Guyer"  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date:31/08/2010 15:41 
Subject:OT: RE: Probablems upgrading Vipre Home 




Mine's quite the opposite. When I get on the PC at night, I relinquish 
control of the TV remote to her and she gets to watch what she wants.

:)

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the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able 
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke 
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