Re: Slightly OT: carts for laptops

[Stefan Jafs]

That's what we make in our Accessories devision. Much better than Ergetron!

www.amico.com

SJ

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Burian, Matthew J. (mjb)
wrote:

> I would go with something from Ergotron (www.ergotron.com) or Anthro (
> www.anthro.com).  I have had several experiences with Anthro's products
> and they are all rock solid and very functional.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Tom Miller  wrote:
>
>>  Folks,
>>
>> I am looking for carts for laptops.  Staff will be using the laptops to
>> enter data in our medical system.  The carts will move from room to room
>> during the day and in storage at night.  Something where staff would be
>> standing, I think.  A built-in power strip would be nice.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Tom
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Re: Slightly OT: carts for laptops

[Burian, Matthew J. (mjb)]

I would go with something from Ergotron (www.ergotron.com) or Anthro (
www.anthro.com).  I have had several experiences with Anthro's products and
they are all rock solid and very functional.

Matt


On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Tom Miller  wrote:

>  Folks,
>
> I am looking for carts for laptops.  Staff will be using the laptops to
> enter data in our medical system.  The carts will move from room to room
> during the day and in storage at night.  Something where staff would be
> standing, I think.  A built-in power strip would be nice.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Tom
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Re: vSphere Networking

[Ben N]

I misunderstood. I thought he said vm host mgmt and not the. San mgmt.

On Dec 5, 2010 10:12 PM, "Anders Blomgren"  wrote:

As he wrote before, he needs to be able to manage the P4000 and cant
dedicate a management port for them.



-Anders

Sent from my iPhone



On 6 dec 2010, at 03:40, Ben N  wrote:

> I see. And why do you want your...

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RE: Hosted VoIP recommendations

[greg.sweers]

I have been told Velocity is top notch.  No personal experience though.  Most 
of the big telecom vendors have released IP/PBX solutions and most of pretty 
reasonably priced.

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: E. Peeters [mailto:ml2...@ibarras.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hosted VoIP recommendations

Hello gang,

We have a production facility with a small office that we are looking at hosted 
VoIP for. Voice/data contracts are up for renewal and the PBX is sufficiently 
outdated that it is no longer supported by the manufacturers (nor are the 
handsets) so an all-in-one VoIP solution seems like s good bet.

We'd probably end up with 10 handsets.

I'm partial to Speakeasy/Megapath because I have been a customer of both in the 
past and pretty happy with their data service, but I've also looked at 8x8, 
TelCentris and Velocity.

Am I missing a big fish? Any comment on the suppliers above (or any other we 
should look at) much appreciated.

Thanks,

Eric Peeters
Ibarra's

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Re: IPAD vs Android tablets

[Pete Howard]

Citrix receiver for droid  coming out 
http://community.citrix.com/display/ocb/2010/12/06/New+Citrix+Receiver+for+Android+Coming+to+a+Galaxy+Near+You








From: justino garcia 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 7:22:48 PM
Subject: Re: IPAD vs Android tablets

you can lock down the ipad, and plus if the ipad is being connected via cyrtix 
server client, or a ts client, I see no see issues in deploying.


Apple offer deployment tools for ipads.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/business/integration/

" Device policies, restrictions and strong encryption methods on iPad provide a 
layered approach to keeping your information secure. iPad uses hardware 
encryption to protect all data at rest. To further secure mail messages and 
attachments iPad uses Data Protection which leverages the unique device 
passcode 
to generate the encryption key. And, in the event of a lost or stolen iPad, all 
data and settings can be cleared by issuing a remote wipe command from Exchange 
or a Mobile Device Management server."
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/itap-rdp-remote-desktop-for/id317062064?mt=8 TS 
client 

OR


Also if your a doctor office, check this out made just for doctors offices.
http://www.macpractice.com/mp/ipad/ for the ipad


On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Silvio L. Nisgoski  wrote:

Just curious here . Seriously, I thing I didn´t  understand something about the 
network infrastructure.
> 
> 
>If they haven´t wi-fi, and use 3G, that means they  are accessing the hospital 
>servers ( that could be in the lower floor from them  ) through the internet, 
>because the hospital doesn´t have wi-fi network ? 
>
> 
>Thanks .
> 
> 
>- Original Message - 
>>From: Ziots,Edward 
>>To: NT System Admin Issues 
>>Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 9:16PM
>>Subject: RE: IPAD vs Android  tablets
>>
>>
>>Andrew, 
>> 
>>Trustme the DR’s are asking for the data to be available to them on their 
>>personaldevices whenever they need it. On top of this DR=GOD in the 
>>healthcaresetting, and MGMT isnt going to tell GOD no, especially not in 
>>this economicclimate, so its kinda a ticking timebomb in this realm. Soon 
>>its going to burnsomeone and big time. 
>>
>> 
>>Z
>> 
>>EdwardE. Ziots
>>CISSP,Network +, Security +
>>NetworkEngineer
>>LifespanOrganization
>>Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>>Cell:401-639-3505
>> 
>>From:Andrew S. Baker[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
>>Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 5:32PM
>>To: NT System Admin Issues
>>Subject: Re: IPAD vs Androidtablets
>> 
Itscost is just ridiculous and so many of my people are Android phones 
they 
don’twant to repurchase their apps.
>>
>>
>>Two points here.  Clearly, the fact that no one else can match your 
>>requirements at alower cost might refute your assertion of "ridiculous 
>>cost"
>>
>>Also, ifthese are for work, where do end-user applications come into 
>>play? 
>> Whywould you want them putting personal apps on a corporate device that 
>> is 
>>neededto integrate with sensitive work in the medical realm?
>>
>> 
>>ASB (My XeeSM Profile) 
>>Exploiting Technology for BusinessAdvantage...
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:58 AM, wrote:
>>Yeah the Archos looked pretty decent,but the 3G is required as most of 
>>the 
>>hospitals don’t provide Wifi access fordoctors making rounds.  And most 
>>of 
>>those that do don’t support usingVPN’s or are filtered etc..
>>Its real hard to find one that has thefluidness of the IPAD, battery 
>>life, 
>>etc…Its cost is just ridiculous and somany of my people are Android 
>>phones 
>>they don’t want to repurchase theirapps.
>> 
>>I am getting a demo of the Dell Duo,but I have been told its not as good 
>>as 
>>the videos out there show it tobe.  
>>
>> 
>>They are not wanting a Windows 7tablet, as they want the ease of use of 
>>Android, with just an RDP app to theirTS.   
>>
>> 
>>GregSweers
>>CEO
>>ACTS360.com
>>P.O. Box  1193
>>Brandon, FL 33509
>>813-657-0849Office
>>813-758-6850Cell
>>813-341-1270Fax
>> 
>>From:AndrewS. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
>>Sent: Sunday, December 05,2010 8:07 AM
>>
>>To: NT System Admin Issues
>>Subject: Re: IPAD vs Androidtablets
>> 
>>Have you lookedat the products from Archos?
>> 
>>http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en
>>No 3G, though.  Wifi only.
>> 
>>ASB (My XeeSM Profile) 
>>Exploiting Technology for BusinessAdvantage...
>> 
>> 
>>On Sat, Dec 4,2010 at 11:24 PM,  wrote:
>>We are beingasked to look for a tablet that is close to an IPAD.  10 inch 
>>screen, 6to 8 hours of battery, 3G/Wifi, decent speed, 2.2 OS, mainly 
>>being 
>>used forremote desktop to servers for Dr’s in hospitals and clinics.  The 
>>   
>>keyboard on the IPAD is really good, and the Bluetooth add on KB works pretty 
>>   
>>decent.  The D

RE: IPAD vs Android tablets

[greg.sweers]

Not to worry, my customers beat me up much harder Z.
You have very good points regarding the security.  A simple enough method to 
mitigate it is not install Email on the device and require them to use Outlook 
via the Terminal Server.  RDP would be the method, and yes if they stole the 
device, implanted a root kit, keylogger etc on it they could obtain the 
information.   We are looking at Authentication tokens required to TS into it, 
but the vendors are small.  Wyse has an app, but we have not tested two-factor 
yet.  Good thing its available on Droid or Ipad.  Doctors do get what they 
want, they drive the money to the practice, but for all their yelling and 
complaining when the Practice Admin says fine, this is what you now get paid, 
they start back pedaling.. :)  In the end we can simply as we always do define 
the risks/benefits, remind them of compliance and offer them software/hardware 
to meet that compliance..but in the end its their decision.  Not mine.
Some practices enforce those policies, others choose not too.  When it hits the 
fan it will hit them in the pocketbook and I will waive my signed document of 
disclosure and release of liability and help them clean up the mess.



Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPAD vs Android tablets

Is the traffic between the EMR site and the tablet encrypted? ( Proves 
Confidentiality of the information being transferred between the client and the 
EMR)? (IPSEC or TLS/SSLv3)

If emails get stored on the devices, then electronic communications within the 
non-encrypted emails, could contain PHI/PII or other sensitive company 
communications  that if divulged to the public or a malicious third party could 
bring about information disclosure, or breach notification laws.  Not trying to 
beat you up Greg, but just because you say the users aren't sending information 
with HIPAA related information anymore, doesn't mean they still aren't doing 
it. ( We all know folks are ignorant of policies, and/or circumvent them for 
various reasons)

Also, I am not sure there is any forensically sound data wiping utilities for 
the IPAD/Iphone/ ( Other mobile device) therefore if they obtain the device 
itself ( Physical Theft) its only a matter of time that all the information on 
the device will be obtained. Either that or a more sinister plot is to plant a 
rootkit on the device, or a backdoor as a legit application, and re-introduce 
it back to the users and monitor all the information crossing said device and 
gleam the information form afar, thus having complete control over the device 
and obtaining multiple different sets of information, credentials, to conduct 
more nefarious deeds.

There has been plenty of attacks against RDP accordingly ( MITM, namely) that 
could be brought to bear, but I would assume that's a low risk type of attack, 
if they got the network between you and the EMR, you basically toasty anyways.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPAD vs Android tablets

Heard and being addressed.  The main function is for RDP back into their server 
farm to access their EMR applications while on rounds in hospitals and doing 
clinics/on call.

Email would be the only thing to get stored on the devices and they do not send 
anything Hipaa within emails anymore.

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 4:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPAD vs Android tablets

Honestly the security features on a lot of things Tablets are lacking, and 
probably will not satisify MASS CMR 201.17 for data encryption of EPHI/PII, 
along with leaving you open for more issues within HIPAA and the HItech Act, 
therefore you might want to seriously reconsider using these to view store 
EPHI/PII. If they get lost without that data encrypted, you have a breach on 
your hands and all the nasties that come along with it.

So for those in the healthcare/medical areas, be very very careful,

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 3:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPAD vs Android tablets

iPad. It just works. "The cost is ridiculous"? That's subjective. Either accept 
it, or wait three to five years for market commoditizati

Really, really, really, early Friday Funny.

[Daniel Rodriguez]

Saw this and had to pass it along.

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/05/irate-cash4gold-lett.html

Really funny. Hope you all enjoy.

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RE: Exclaimer Signature Manager

[James Hill]

I've got a script that creates the signature.  Once it's created it leaves it 
alone so that the user can modify it if they wish.


From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2010 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Exclaimer Signature Manager

OK so before I go suggest we splunk the cash on this, is there anything out 
there that I'm overlooking that will allow similar control/granularity over 
signatures whilst keeping some degree of control with the end user?

I've looked at a couple of server side solutions but they all lose out the 
minute you want someone to have the option to insert their mobile number or 
remove it and so forth.

Thanks,
Paul

MIRA Ltd

Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England
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Hosted VoIP recommendations

[E. Peeters]

Hello gang,
 
We have a production facility with a small office that we are looking at
hosted VoIP for. Voice/data contracts are up for renewal and the PBX is
sufficiently outdated that it is no longer supported by the
manufacturers (nor are the handsets) so an all-in-one VoIP solution
seems like s good bet.
 
We'd probably end up with 10 handsets. 
 
I'm partial to Speakeasy/Megapath because I have been a customer of both
in the past and pretty happy with their data service, but I've also
looked at 8x8, TelCentris and Velocity.
 
Am I missing a big fish? Any comment on the suppliers above (or any
other we should look at) much appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Eric Peeters
Ibarra's

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Re: BES 5.0 not syncing Calendars

[Jim Majorowicz]

Simon,

I'm not sure re-registering the CDO is working, although I'm getting mixed
signals from my client.  I'll dig a little bit more, but do you know
anything else it might be?

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Simon Butler  wrote:

>  If everything else is working correctly, the permissions are almost
> certainly correct. If permissions were wrong, then nothing would sync.
>
> The times I have seen this happen before it has been down to the cdo.dll
> not being registered, or the wrong was registered.
>
>
>
> Re-register the cdo.dll that is un C:\Program Files(86)\ExchangeMapi.
>
> Then stop the Blackberry services in the following order:
>
>
>
> "Blackberry Controller"
>
> "Blackberry Dispatcher"
>
> "Blackberry Router"
>
> "Blackberry MDS Connection Service"
>
> "Blackberry Attachment Service"
>
> "Blackberry Alert"
>
> "BAS-NCC"
>
> "BAS-AS"
>
>
>
> Restart them in the following order:
>
>
>
> "Blackberry Router"
>
> "Blackberry Dispatcher"
>
> "Blackberry Controller"
>
> "Blackberry MDS Connection Service"
>
> "Blackberry Attachment Service"
>
> "Blackberry Alert"
>
> "BAS-AS"
>
>
>
> Simon.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> MVP: Exchange, MCSE
> Sembee Ltd.
>
> e: si...@sembee.co.uk
> w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/
> w: http://www.amset.info/
>
> w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/
>
> Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone?
> http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for 
> certificates from just $26.99.
> Need a domain for your certificate? 
> http://DomainsForExchange.net/
>
>
>
> Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 02 December 2010 17:38
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* BES 5.0 not syncing Calendars
>
>
>
> I've got a client that uses BESX 5.0.2 with SBS 2008 that isn't syncing
> calendars after the Swing Migration to SBS 2008.  Googling has me looking at
> the permissions of the BESAdmin account, but I can't tell if this is
> correct:
>
> [PS] C:\Windows\System32>get-mailboxserver ALLIANT01 | get-ADpermission
> -user BE
> SAdmin | Format-List
>
>
> User: AS2K3\BESAdmin
> Identity: ALLIANT01
> Deny: False
> AccessRights: {Self, WriteProperty, GenericRead}
> ExtendedRights  :
> IsInherited : False
> Properties  :
> ChildObjectTypes:
> InheritedObjectType :
> InheritanceType : All
>
> User: AS2K3\BESAdmin
> Identity: ALLIANT01
> Deny: False
> AccessRights: {ExtendedRight}
> ExtendedRights  : {ms-Exch-Store-Admin}
> IsInherited : False
> Properties  :
> ChildObjectTypes:
> InheritedObjectType :
> InheritanceType : All
>
> User: AS2K3\BESAdmin
> Identity: ALLIANT01
> Deny: False
> AccessRights: {ExtendedRight}
> ExtendedRights  : {Send-As}
> IsInherited : False
> Properties  :
> ChildObjectTypes:
> InheritedObjectType :
> InheritanceType : All
>
> Everything else is working correctly, so I'm thinking this isn't it, but I
> really can't tell.  Are the permissions correct for this user?  The other
> thing I'm noticing is that there is NO information about the Calendar listed
> anywhere in the BESX 5.0 Synchronization Component.  This is my only 5.0
> server at the moment, so I'm not sure if I'm missing anything or not, but I
> see:
>
> Component information
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
>
>
> Component name:
>
> Synchronization
>
> Component description:
>
> The Sync component.
>
> Component category:
>
> Synchronization
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
>
> error message info message
>
>
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
> Address book
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
> Synchronization turned on:
>
> Yes
>
> Synchronization type:
>
> Bidirectional
>
> Conflict resolution:
>
> Server wins
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
>
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
> Tasks
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
> Synchronization turned on:
>
> Yes
>
> Synchronization type:
>
> Bidirectional
>
> Conflict resolution:
>
> Server wins
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
>
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
> Memos
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
> Synchronization turned on:
>
> Yes
>
> Synchronization type:
>
> Bidirectional
>
> Conflict resolution:
>
> Server wins
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
>
>
> [image: Description: Image removed by sender.]
>
> Message filters
>
> [image: Descripti

RE: document sprawl

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

DING! DING! DING! Kurt wins the prize!

It was a silly and (hopefully) preposterous example, but you got the point. If 
it isn't one of the major players, how good will the support be when you need 
it most? Of the major players, who of them are doing block/byte level de-dupe?

(and notice that I didn't say that I downsized the Linux guy - I knew how 
valuable he was, but the accountant doing the downsizing didn't ask me until it 
was too late...) :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: document sprawl

1) He might have meant ZFS - it contains block level dedupe for
primary storage - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Deduplication

2) SANs are usually appliances, especially at the $10k/hour shops, so
if your SAN is down, call your vendor.

3) If you have built your own SAN with Linux, and you didn't get the
documentation done before you put it into production, you deserve your
fate. Ditto for downsizing your linux guy in a shop where a
mission-critical app is in the hands of one person.

But I take your meaning - it just makes 3) that much more important -
don't put anything into production for which you don't have support.

Kurt

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 13:32, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:
> Jack - All due respect to you and to Linux, as I know it is a solid OS, but
> how easy is it to find rock solid & trusted Linux support for shops that
> have only windoze skills? And I don't mean simple administration support. I
> mean, "My entire SAN just went down and it is costing me $10,000 an hour to
> be down, and I have no Linux skills in house because the last guy that knew
> Linux was just downsized last month by an accountant before we had a chance
> to cross-train and all of his documentation was stored on the SAN. HELP!"
>
>
>
> We'd love to expand our internal skill sets with Linux knowledge, but up
> until recently, we haven't had much time to breathe, let alone play around
> with Linux.
>
>
>
> As for Zettabyte, it looks like they are only a backup solution. Is this the
> right site? http://www.zettabytestorage.com/ Even if they do offer primary
> storage, 8 TB is their upper end. I (and many others on this list) are
> already beyond that; even fully de-duped, that would not last my
> organization much longer. Regardless, it appears that the Zettabyte product
> is geared toward backup.
>
>
>
> I'm talking about PRIMARY storage de-dupe, not backup de-dupe.
>
>
>
> Again, I'd like to know the names of "big time" players who are doing
> primary storage de-duplication at the byte or block level, EMC, Commvault,
> Hitachi Data Systems, etc. Is there anyone aside from NetApp?
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
> 
>
> From: Kramer, Jack [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:32 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: document sprawl
>
>
>
> Linux filesystems - SDFS - and Zettabyte stand out as good examples of dedup
> filesystems. There's also no reason a linux server can't act as a SMB host.
>
>
>
> 
> Jack Kramer
> Computer Systems Specialist
> University Relations, Michigan State University
> w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955
>
>
>
> From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
> Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:11:01 -0500
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: document sprawl
>
>
>
> That's a great idea in theory, but aside from NetApp, are there any big time
> players who are doing primary storage de-duplication at the byte or block
> level? Generally when people talk about de-dupe, they are talking about
> secondary storage and backup mechanisms. Sure there has been talk about
> sub-file dedupe in primary storage for years, but who is really doing it
> yet?
>
>
>
> Single Instance Store in Server 2003 and 2008 will help, but the files have
> to be identical in size and content (name and date/time stamp can be
> different). However, even then, it is (from my understanding) only really
> available in Storage Server 2003/2008 which I believe is only available
> bundled as an appliance from an OEM.
>
>
>
> Real (IMHO, anyway) deduplication happens at the byte or block level,
> keeping only unique bits and pieces of differing files. If I have 100 copies
> of a power point and only change one name on the last page, then I get 1
> copy of the power point, and only the blocks of data that comprise the name
> changes on the remaining 99 copies. SIS won't do that; in that example,
> you'd still have 100 copies of the file. De-dupe would do that, but like I
> said, aside from NetApp, who is really doing sub-file dedupe on primary
> storage right now?
>
>
>
> http://blogs.tec

Re: document sprawl

[Kurt Buff]

1) He might have meant ZFS - it contains block level dedupe for
primary storage - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Deduplication

2) SANs are usually appliances, especially at the $10k/hour shops, so
if your SAN is down, call your vendor.

3) If you have built your own SAN with Linux, and you didn't get the
documentation done before you put it into production, you deserve your
fate. Ditto for downsizing your linux guy in a shop where a
mission-critical app is in the hands of one person.

But I take your meaning - it just makes 3) that much more important -
don't put anything into production for which you don't have support.

Kurt

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 13:32, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:
> Jack - All due respect to you and to Linux, as I know it is a solid OS, but
> how easy is it to find rock solid & trusted Linux support for shops that
> have only windoze skills? And I don’t mean simple administration support. I
> mean, “My entire SAN just went down and it is costing me $10,000 an hour to
> be down, and I have no Linux skills in house because the last guy that knew
> Linux was just downsized last month by an accountant before we had a chance
> to cross-train and all of his documentation was stored on the SAN. HELP!”
>
>
>
> We’d love to expand our internal skill sets with Linux knowledge, but up
> until recently, we haven’t had much time to breathe, let alone play around
> with Linux.
>
>
>
> As for Zettabyte, it looks like they are only a backup solution. Is this the
> right site? http://www.zettabytestorage.com/ Even if they do offer primary
> storage, 8 TB is their upper end. I (and many others on this list) are
> already beyond that; even fully de-duped, that would not last my
> organization much longer. Regardless, it appears that the Zettabyte product
> is geared toward backup.
>
>
>
> I’m talking about PRIMARY storage de-dupe, not backup de-dupe.
>
>
>
> Again, I’d like to know the names of “big time” players who are doing
> primary storage de-duplication at the byte or block level, EMC, Commvault,
> Hitachi Data Systems, etc. Is there anyone aside from NetApp?
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
> 
>
> From: Kramer, Jack [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:32 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: document sprawl
>
>
>
> Linux filesystems – SDFS – and Zettabyte stand out as good examples of dedup
> filesystems. There's also no reason a linux server can't act as a SMB host.
>
>
>
> 
> Jack Kramer
> Computer Systems Specialist
> University Relations, Michigan State University
> w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955
>
>
>
> From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
> Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:11:01 -0500
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: document sprawl
>
>
>
> That’s a great idea in theory, but aside from NetApp, are there any big time
> players who are doing primary storage de-duplication at the byte or block
> level? Generally when people talk about de-dupe, they are talking about
> secondary storage and backup mechanisms. Sure there has been talk about
> sub-file dedupe in primary storage for years, but who is really doing it
> yet?
>
>
>
> Single Instance Store in Server 2003 and 2008 will help, but the files have
> to be identical in size and content (name and date/time stamp can be
> different). However, even then, it is (from my understanding) only really
> available in Storage Server 2003/2008 which I believe is only available
> bundled as an appliance from an OEM.
>
>
>
> Real (IMHO, anyway) deduplication happens at the byte or block level,
> keeping only unique bits and pieces of differing files. If I have 100 copies
> of a power point and only change one name on the last page, then I get 1
> copy of the power point, and only the blocks of data that comprise the name
> changes on the remaining 99 copies. SIS won’t do that; in that example,
> you’d still have 100 copies of the file. De-dupe would do that, but like I
> said, aside from NetApp, who is really doing sub-file dedupe on primary
> storage right now?
>
>
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/datacenter/?p=2913&tag=content;leftCol
>
>
>
> http://searchstorage.techtarget.co.uk/tip/0,289483,sid181_gci1518522,00.html
>
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
> 
>
> From: Kramer, Jack [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:55 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: document sprawl
>
>
>
> Why would the extra copies disappear on a dedup solution? The file markers
> would exist in multiple places but the common blocks would only be written
> to disk once, leaving just the individual blocks as extra usage. For a file
> duplicated many times you'd use

RE: document sprawl

[John Aldrich]

If you get RedHat, you can buy support contracts from them. Several other
distributions offer commercial support as well.



From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: document sprawl

Jack - All due respect to you and to Linux, as I know it is a solid OS, but
how easy is it to find rock solid & trusted Linux support for shops that
have only windoze skills? And I don’t mean simple administration support. I
mean, “My entire SAN just went down and it is costing me $10,000 an hour to
be down, and I have no Linux skills in house because the last guy that knew
Linux was just downsized last month by an accountant before we had a chance
to cross-train and all of his documentation was stored on the SAN. HELP!”

We’d love to expand our internal skill sets with Linux knowledge, but up
until recently, we haven’t had much time to breathe, let alone play around
with Linux. 

As for Zettabyte, it looks like they are only a backup solution. Is this the
right site? http://www.zettabytestorage.com/ Even if they do offer primary
storage, 8 TB is their upper end. I (and many others on this list) are
already beyond that; even fully de-duped, that would not last my
organization much longer. Regardless, it appears that the Zettabyte product
is geared toward backup.

I’m talking about PRIMARY storage de-dupe, not backup de-dupe.

Again, I’d like to know the names of “big time” players who are doing
primary storage de-duplication at the byte or block level, EMC, Commvault,
Hitachi Data Systems, etc. Is there anyone aside from NetApp?
Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 

From: Kramer, Jack [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: document sprawl

Linux filesystems – SDFS – and Zettabyte stand out as good examples of dedup
filesystems. There's also no reason a linux server can't act as a SMB host.


Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:11:01 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: document sprawl

That’s a great idea in theory, but aside from NetApp, are there any big time
players who are doing primary storage de-duplication at the byte or block
level? Generally when people talk about de-dupe, they are talking about
secondary storage and backup mechanisms. Sure there has been talk about
sub-file dedupe in primary storage for years, but who is really doing it
yet?
 
Single Instance Store in Server 2003 and 2008 will help, but the files have
to be identical in size and content (name and date/time stamp can be
different). However, even then, it is (from my understanding) only really
available in Storage Server 2003/2008 which I believe is only available
bundled as an appliance from an OEM.
 
Real (IMHO, anyway) deduplication happens at the byte or block level,
keeping only unique bits and pieces of differing files. If I have 100 copies
of a power point and only change one name on the last page, then I get 1
copy of the power point, and only the blocks of data that comprise the name
changes on the remaining 99 copies. SIS won’t do that; in that example,
you’d still have 100 copies of the file. De-dupe would do that, but like I
said, aside from NetApp, who is really doing sub-file dedupe on primary
storage right now?
 
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/datacenter/?p=2913&tag=content;leftCol
 
http://searchstorage.techtarget.co.uk/tip/0,289483,sid181_gci1518522,00.html
 
 
Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

From: Kramer, Jack [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: document sprawl
 
Why would the extra copies disappear on a dedup solution? The file markers
would exist in multiple places but the common blocks would only be written
to disk once, leaving just the individual blocks as extra usage. For a file
duplicated many times you'd use only (n-(n-1)+(small amount for
descriptors)) of space to host the duplicates. That sounds like it would
free quite a bit of disk for you while also allowing your users to continue
in their set ways.
 

Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, MichiganState University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955
 
From: S Powell 
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:24:12 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: document sprawl
 
that is a good thought.  We've discussed that, but we don't have projects
that end like that , tend to more have ongoing things.
 
i'd love to run a ded

RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[John Aldrich]

Well, Vipre has it's own SQL instance.




-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

I believe he was talking about the ICVerify service, not SQL.

If VIPRE depends on that SQL service it will cease to function.

On 12/6/2010 3:17 PM, John Aldrich wrote:
> Thanks... Again, since Vipre depends on SQL Express, I was afraid to do
> that, but I took a shot and it looks like I can disable that instance of
SQL
> Express without affecting Vipre any. :-) So, it's disabled, and I told SQL
> Express not to start that database on O/S startup.

-- 

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p...@optimumdata.com

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Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[Phil Brutsche]

I believe he was talking about the ICVerify service, not SQL.

If VIPRE depends on that SQL service it will cease to function.

On 12/6/2010 3:17 PM, John Aldrich wrote:
> Thanks... Again, since Vipre depends on SQL Express, I was afraid to do
> that, but I took a shot and it looks like I can disable that instance of SQL
> Express without affecting Vipre any. :-) So, it's disabled, and I told SQL
> Express not to start that database on O/S startup.

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RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[John Aldrich]

Thanks... Again, since Vipre depends on SQL Express, I was afraid to do
that, but I took a shot and it looks like I can disable that instance of SQL
Express without affecting Vipre any. :-) So, it's disabled, and I told SQL
Express not to start that database on O/S startup.




-Original Message-
From: VIPCS [mailto:vi...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Can you not just stop and disable the service for now, and uninstall it
later?

Sincerely,
 
Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
VIPCS
 
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Ok. Good to know. Yeah... ICVerify is pretty small... it would work on a
desktop, it just needs some shared space and really just needs a dedicated
machine. Problem is that the machine it's on is our primary
antivirus/DHCP/domain controller/file share/print server machine and to
remove ICVerify, I'll probably have to reboot the darn thing a couple
times...and I really don't want to do that. *sigh* Guess I'll have to,
though...



From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Stating the obvious.
Yank it.  If they decide they want it back, tell them that they need to
dedicate a server to the app, or be forced with these kind of periodic
disruptions in service and then install it accordingly when the time comes.
 
Note: SQL Express uninstaller is pretty smart, hopefully you have multiple
instances and it will uninstall the named instance you select.
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:27 PM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Mainly laziness. Also, I don't know but what they'll want to start using it
again. Plus I'm also concerned that if I remove it, since it also uses SQL
Express (or whatever Microsoft is calling it these days) that it'll mess up
my Vipre install, and I *really* don’t want to do that



From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Ok, ok. you guys got me.  I'll ask the stupid question of the day... 
 
"Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore"
 
If you don't use it anymore, WHY is it still on there
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Memory leaks. We were running ICVerify Network edition on there and
apparently it leaks like a sieve, so we were rebooting it like every night.
Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore.



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?
 
SJ
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.




-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Events on the other(s) DCs?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
*after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
from a power-cycle event.

Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.





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RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[VIPCS]

Can you not just stop and disable the service for now, and uninstall it
later?

Sincerely,
 
Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
VIPCS
 
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Ok. Good to know. Yeah... ICVerify is pretty small... it would work on a
desktop, it just needs some shared space and really just needs a dedicated
machine. Problem is that the machine it's on is our primary
antivirus/DHCP/domain controller/file share/print server machine and to
remove ICVerify, I'll probably have to reboot the darn thing a couple
times...and I really don't want to do that. *sigh* Guess I'll have to,
though...



From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Stating the obvious.
Yank it.  If they decide they want it back, tell them that they need to
dedicate a server to the app, or be forced with these kind of periodic
disruptions in service and then install it accordingly when the time comes.
 
Note: SQL Express uninstaller is pretty smart, hopefully you have multiple
instances and it will uninstall the named instance you select.
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:27 PM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Mainly laziness. Also, I don't know but what they'll want to start using it
again. Plus I'm also concerned that if I remove it, since it also uses SQL
Express (or whatever Microsoft is calling it these days) that it'll mess up
my Vipre install, and I *really* don’t want to do that



From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Ok, ok. you guys got me.  I'll ask the stupid question of the day... 
 
"Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore"
 
If you don't use it anymore, WHY is it still on there
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Memory leaks. We were running ICVerify Network edition on there and
apparently it leaks like a sieve, so we were rebooting it like every night.
Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore.



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?
 
SJ
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.




-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Events on the other(s) DCs?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
*after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
from a power-cycle event.

Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.





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Re: Exclaimer Signature Manager

[Roger Wright]

I would expect most server-side solutions to be all-or-nothing per policy.


Roger Wright
___

Life isn't like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapenos: what
you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.




On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Paul Hutchings wrote:

> OK so before I go suggest we splunk the cash on this, is there anything out
> there that I’m overlooking that will allow similar control/granularity over
> signatures whilst keeping some degree of control with the end user?
>
>
>
> I’ve looked at a couple of server side solutions but they all lose out the
> minute you want someone to have the option to insert their mobile number or
> remove it and so forth.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
> --
> *MIRA Ltd*
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Re: document sprawl

[Kramer, Jack]

Linux filesystems – SDFS – and Zettabyte stand out as good examples of dedup 
filesystems. There's also no reason a linux server can't act as a SMB host.


Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:11:01 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: document sprawl

That’s a great idea in theory, but aside from NetApp, are there any big time 
players who are doing primary storage de-duplication at the byte or block 
level? Generally when people talk about de-dupe, they are talking about 
secondary storage and backup mechanisms. Sure there has been talk about 
sub-file dedupe in primary storage for years, but who is really doing it yet?

Single Instance Store in Server 2003 and 2008 will help, but the files have to 
be identical in size and content (name and date/time stamp can be different). 
However, even then, it is (from my understanding) only really available in 
Storage Server 2003/2008 which I believe is only available bundled as an 
appliance from an OEM.

Real (IMHO, anyway) deduplication happens at the byte or block level, keeping 
only unique bits and pieces of differing files. If I have 100 copies of a power 
point and only change one name on the last page, then I get 1 copy of the power 
point, and only the blocks of data that comprise the name changes on the 
remaining 99 copies. SIS won’t do that; in that example, you’d still have 100 
copies of the file. De-dupe would do that, but like I said, aside from NetApp, 
who is really doing sub-file dedupe on primary storage right now?

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/datacenter/?p=2913&tag=content;leftCol

http://searchstorage.techtarget.co.uk/tip/0,289483,sid181_gci1518522,00.html



Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Kramer, Jack [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: document sprawl

Why would the extra copies disappear on a dedup solution? The file markers 
would exist in multiple places but the common blocks would only be written to 
disk once, leaving just the individual blocks as extra usage. For a file 
duplicated many times you'd use only (n-(n-1)+(small amount for descriptors)) 
of space to host the duplicates. That sounds like it would free quite a bit of 
disk for you while also allowing your users to continue in their set ways.


Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, MichiganState University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

From: S Powell mailto:powe...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:24:12 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: document sprawl

that is a good thought.  We've discussed that, but we don't have projects that 
end like that , tend to more have ongoing things.

i'd love to run a dedupe and and then pitch the extra copies, but then people 
wouldn't know where to find anything because they wouldn't remember where they 
put the originals.

welcome to the machine.


I 'm grateful for all the feedback on this topic and glad to know that I'm not 
the only one facing some of these challenges.
Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 21:54, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
A couple of things I could think of...

Implement a product that does disk de-dupe?

For project related work, incorporate document clean up into the project 
shutdown phase - make the manager responsible for putting the final versions of 
documents into whatever your master repository is

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Saturday, 4 December 2010 6:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: document sprawl
They ignore the warnings.  Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.  They would 
rather blame their inability to get work done on lack of storage rather than 
the fact they didn't clean up all of their old "stuff" to begin with.  This is 
an old battle.  One I'm weary of fighting.


-Original Message-
From: VIPCS [mailto:vi...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: document sprawl
We think you can automatically send them warnings when they are close to their 
quotas.

You also have leverage to negotiate with them at that point - an extra 10% 
increase in exchange for deleting old files, and you know what the quota was 

RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[John Aldrich]

Yes, I do need that. It's our primary file/print/dhcp/etc machine... one of
two. I hope, eventually, to virtualize the darn thing, but for now, I'm
stuck with a big old machine handling all that.



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Do you need this DC? You could also de-promo it and move dhcp to another
DC……

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Stating the obvious.
Yank it.  If they decide they want it back, tell them that they need to
dedicate a server to the app, or be forced with these kind of periodic
disruptions in service and then install it accordingly when the time comes.
 
Note: SQL Express uninstaller is pretty smart, hopefully you have multiple
instances and it will uninstall the named instance you select.
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:27 PM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Mainly laziness. Also, I don't know but what they'll want to start using it
again. Plus I'm also concerned that if I remove it, since it also uses SQL
Express (or whatever Microsoft is calling it these days) that it'll mess up
my Vipre install, and I *really* don’t want to do that



From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Ok, ok. you guys got me.  I'll ask the stupid question of the day... 
 
"Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore"
 
If you don't use it anymore, WHY is it still on there
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Memory leaks. We were running ICVerify Network edition on there and
apparently it leaks like a sieve, so we were rebooting it like every night.
Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore.



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?
 
SJ
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.




-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Events on the other(s) DCs?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
*after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
from a power-cycle event.

Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.





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RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[John Aldrich]

Ok. Good to know. Yeah... ICVerify is pretty small... it would work on a
desktop, it just needs some shared space and really just needs a dedicated
machine. Problem is that the machine it's on is our primary
antivirus/DHCP/domain controller/file share/print server machine and to
remove ICVerify, I'll probably have to reboot the darn thing a couple
times...and I really don't want to do that. *sigh* Guess I'll have to,
though...



From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Stating the obvious.
Yank it.  If they decide they want it back, tell them that they need to
dedicate a server to the app, or be forced with these kind of periodic
disruptions in service and then install it accordingly when the time comes.
 
Note: SQL Express uninstaller is pretty smart, hopefully you have multiple
instances and it will uninstall the named instance you select.
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:27 PM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Mainly laziness. Also, I don't know but what they'll want to start using it
again. Plus I'm also concerned that if I remove it, since it also uses SQL
Express (or whatever Microsoft is calling it these days) that it'll mess up
my Vipre install, and I *really* don’t want to do that



From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Ok, ok. you guys got me.  I'll ask the stupid question of the day... 
 
"Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore"
 
If you don't use it anymore, WHY is it still on there
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Memory leaks. We were running ICVerify Network edition on there and
apparently it leaks like a sieve, so we were rebooting it like every night.
Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore.



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?
 
SJ
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.




-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Events on the other(s) DCs?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
*after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
from a power-cycle event.

Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.





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RE: document sprawl

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

That's a great idea in theory, but aside from NetApp, are there any big time 
players who are doing primary storage de-duplication at the byte or block 
level? Generally when people talk about de-dupe, they are talking about 
secondary storage and backup mechanisms. Sure there has been talk about 
sub-file dedupe in primary storage for years, but who is really doing it yet?

Single Instance Store in Server 2003 and 2008 will help, but the files have to 
be identical in size and content (name and date/time stamp can be different). 
However, even then, it is (from my understanding) only really available in 
Storage Server 2003/2008 which I believe is only available bundled as an 
appliance from an OEM.

Real (IMHO, anyway) deduplication happens at the byte or block level, keeping 
only unique bits and pieces of differing files. If I have 100 copies of a power 
point and only change one name on the last page, then I get 1 copy of the power 
point, and only the blocks of data that comprise the name changes on the 
remaining 99 copies. SIS won't do that; in that example, you'd still have 100 
copies of the file. De-dupe would do that, but like I said, aside from NetApp, 
who is really doing sub-file dedupe on primary storage right now?

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/datacenter/?p=2913&tag=content;leftCol

http://searchstorage.techtarget.co.uk/tip/0,289483,sid181_gci1518522,00.html



Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Kramer, Jack [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: document sprawl

Why would the extra copies disappear on a dedup solution? The file markers 
would exist in multiple places but the common blocks would only be written to 
disk once, leaving just the individual blocks as extra usage. For a file 
duplicated many times you'd use only (n-(n-1)+(small amount for descriptors)) 
of space to host the duplicates. That sounds like it would free quite a bit of 
disk for you while also allowing your users to continue in their set ways.


Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

From: S Powell mailto:powe...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:24:12 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: document sprawl

that is a good thought.  We've discussed that, but we don't have projects that 
end like that , tend to more have ongoing things.

i'd love to run a dedupe and and then pitch the extra copies, but then people 
wouldn't know where to find anything because they wouldn't remember where they 
put the originals.

welcome to the machine.


I 'm grateful for all the feedback on this topic and glad to know that I'm not 
the only one facing some of these challenges.
Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 21:54, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
A couple of things I could think of...

Implement a product that does disk de-dupe?

For project related work, incorporate document clean up into the project 
shutdown phase - make the manager responsible for putting the final versions of 
documents into whatever your master repository is

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Saturday, 4 December 2010 6:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: document sprawl
They ignore the warnings.  Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.  They would 
rather blame their inability to get work done on lack of storage rather than 
the fact they didn't clean up all of their old "stuff" to begin with.  This is 
an old battle.  One I'm weary of fighting.


-Original Message-
From: VIPCS [mailto:vi...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: document sprawl
We think you can automatically send them warnings when they are close to their 
quotas.

You also have leverage to negotiate with them at that point - an extra 10% 
increase in exchange for deleting old files, and you know what the quota was 
before, and can tell whether they are fulfilling their end of the agreement.
Sincerely,

Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
VIPCS


-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 5:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: document sprawl
Doesn't work.  They let them fill up and then gripe that they can't save their 
files because the file system is full.
-Original Message-
From: VIPCS [mailto:vi...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 

RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[Kennedy, Jim]

Do you need this DC? You could also de-promo it and move dhcp to another 
DC..

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Stating the obvious.
Yank it.  If they decide they want it back, tell them that they need to 
dedicate a server to the app, or be forced with these kind of periodic 
disruptions in service and then install it accordingly when the time comes.

Note: SQL Express uninstaller is pretty smart, hopefully you have multiple 
instances and it will uninstall the named instance you select.
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:27 PM, John Aldrich 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
Mainly laziness. Also, I don't know but what they'll want to start using it
again. Plus I'm also concerned that if I remove it, since it also uses SQL
Express (or whatever Microsoft is calling it these days) that it'll mess up
my Vipre install, and I *really* don't want to do that



From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Ok, ok. you guys got me.  I'll ask the stupid question of the day...

"Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don't use it anymore"

If you don't use it anymore, WHY is it still on there
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM, John Aldrich 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>>
wrote:
Memory leaks. We were running ICVerify Network edition on there and
apparently it leaks like a sieve, so we were rebooting it like every night.
Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don't use it anymore.



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?

SJ
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>>
wrote:
Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.




-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Events on the other(s) DCs?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich 
[mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
*after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
from a power-cycle event.

Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.





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Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[Jonathan Link]

Stating the obvious.
Yank it.  If they decide they want it back, tell them that they need to
dedicate a server to the app, or be forced with these kind of periodic
disruptions in service and then install it accordingly when the time comes.

Note: SQL Express uninstaller is pretty smart, hopefully you have multiple
instances and it will uninstall the named instance you select.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:27 PM, John Aldrich
wrote:

> Mainly laziness. Also, I don't know but what they'll want to start using it
> again. Plus I'm also concerned that if I remove it, since it also uses SQL
> Express (or whatever Microsoft is calling it these days) that it'll mess up
> my Vipre install, and I *really* don’t want to do that
>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:23 PM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> Ok, ok. you guys got me.  I'll ask the stupid question of the day...
>
> "Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
> there, but we don’t use it anymore"
>
> If you don't use it anymore, WHY is it still on there
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM, John Aldrich  >
> wrote:
> Memory leaks. We were running ICVerify Network edition on there and
> apparently it leaks like a sieve, so we were rebooting it like every night.
> Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
> there, but we don’t use it anymore.
>
>
>
> From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?
>
> SJ
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>
> wrote:
> Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
> the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
> regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
> about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> Events on the other(s) DCs?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said
> she
> couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
> address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
> one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
> When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
> anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
> log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
> this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
> *after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
> from a power-cycle event.
>
> Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
> lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.
>
>
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Exclaimer Signature Manager

[Paul Hutchings]

OK so before I go suggest we splunk the cash on this, is there anything
out there that I'm overlooking that will allow similar
control/granularity over signatures whilst keeping some degree of
control with the end user?

 

I've looked at a couple of server side solutions but they all lose out
the minute you want someone to have the option to insert their mobile
number or remove it and so forth.

 

Thanks,

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RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[Steve Hanna]

I think what I just did is what the kids call a "facepalm"...

 John, it looks like you just listed yourself a to-do list. Have at it.

--Steve


> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
>
> Mainly laziness. Also, I don't know but what they'll want to
> start using it
> again. Plus I'm also concerned that if I remove it, since it also uses SQL
> Express (or whatever Microsoft is calling it these days) that
> it'll mess up
> my Vipre install, and I *really* don’t want to do that
>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:23 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> Ok, ok. you guys got me.  I'll ask the stupid question of the day... 
>  
> "Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
> there, but we don’t use it anymore"
>  
> If you don't use it anymore, WHY is it still on there
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM, John Aldrich
> 
> wrote:
> Memory leaks. We were running ICVerify Network edition on there and
> apparently it leaks like a sieve, so we were rebooting it like
> every night.
> Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
> there, but we don’t use it anymore.
>
>
>
> From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?
>  
> SJ
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich
> 
> wrote:
> Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
> the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
> regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were
> numerous errors
> about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> Events on the other(s) DCs?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called
> and said she
> couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
> address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
> one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
> When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it
> stopped logging
> anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
> log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
> this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
> *after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
> from a power-cycle event.
>
> Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
> lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.
>
>
>
>
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Re: document sprawl

[Kramer, Jack]

Why would the extra copies disappear on a dedup solution? The file markers 
would exist in multiple places but the common blocks would only be written to 
disk once, leaving just the individual blocks as extra usage. For a file 
duplicated many times you'd use only (n-(n-1)+(small amount for descriptors)) 
of space to host the duplicates. That sounds like it would free quite a bit of 
disk for you while also allowing your users to continue in their set ways.


Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

From: S Powell mailto:powe...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:24:12 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: document sprawl

that is a good thought.  We've discussed that, but we don't have projects that 
end like that , tend to more have ongoing things.

i'd love to run a dedupe and and then pitch the extra copies, but then people 
wouldn't know where to find anything because they wouldn't remember where they 
put the originals.

welcome to the machine.


I 'm grateful for all the feedback on this topic and glad to know that I'm not 
the only one facing some of these challenges.
Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.


On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 21:54, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
A couple of things I could think of...

Implement a product that does disk de-dupe?

For project related work, incorporate document clean up into the project 
shutdown phase - make the manager responsible for putting the final versions of 
documents into whatever your master repository is

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Saturday, 4 December 2010 6:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: document sprawl

They ignore the warnings.  Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.  They would 
rather blame their inability to get work done on lack of storage rather than 
the fact they didn't clean up all of their old "stuff" to begin with.  This is 
an old battle.  One I'm weary of fighting.



-Original Message-
From: VIPCS [mailto:vi...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: document sprawl

We think you can automatically send them warnings when they are close to their 
quotas.

You also have leverage to negotiate with them at that point - an extra 10% 
increase in exchange for deleting old files, and you know what the quota was 
before, and can tell whether they are fulfilling their end of the agreement.

Sincerely,

Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
VIPCS


-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 5:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: document sprawl

Doesn't work.  They let them fill up and then gripe that they can't save their 
files because the file system is full.

-Original Message-
From: VIPCS [mailto:vi...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: document sprawl

A bit simplistic, but have you considered disk quotas for server file storage?

Sincerely,

Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
VIPCS


-Original Message-
From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:swimbe...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: document sprawl

I have attempted to tackle this issue before, I like to call it "encourage 
spring cleaning!" but my words always seem to fall on deaf ears.

Lately every time I bring it up we end up buying more hard drives for the 
server!  I give up.  Maybe I'm just too cheap?



On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jeff Brown 
<2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In regards to email, we were able to establish a retention policy that
> messages in the Inbox, Sent Items, and Deleted Items folders are all
deleted
> after 90 days.  Exchange mailbox manager allowed to do that weekly.
> Don't manage other folders.  Not perfect, but it helped.
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Don Guyer 
> mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com>>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'd be interested in a solution to this. Been fighting it for years
>> to no avail, other than running a "data inventory" program (such as
>> TreeSize)
and
>> doing a manual compare.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't forget all of the email attachments saved along with the
>> original email.
>>
>>
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> Don Guyer
>>
>> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>>
>> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>>
>> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>>
>> Devon, PA 19333
>>
>> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>>
>> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>>
>> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: S Powell [mailto:powe

RE: vSphere Networking

[Paul Hutchings]

Anders has answered really, but as he said, ideally I want to be able to
manage the iSCSI from our LAN.

 

Also the iSCSI could do with connectivity to our LAN for things like
SMTP and NTP, though I could work around that I'm sure.

 

From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 06 December 2010 06:11
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vSphere Networking

 

As he wrote before, he needs to be able to manage the P4000 and cant
dedicate a management port for them.

 

-Anders

Sent from my iPhone


On 6 dec 2010, at 03:40, Ben N  wrote:

I see. And why do you want your iSCSI network to be accessible
in your LAN?
I was confused initally that you were out of NICs based on your
design and wanted your VM Mgmt in your iSCSI network.

On Dec 5, 2010 2:23 AM, "Paul Hutchings"
 wrote:

12 NICs is more than enough- I got 12 simply as it's
easier to have surplus from day one.

As for assignments, tbh I think there will be some trial
and error there, but I'm leaning towards something along the lines on
each host of:

vSwitch1
3 NICs (1 onboard and one on each quad card)
Port Group 1 - vMotion
Port Group 2 - Management/VM Network

vSwitch2
2 or 3 NICs
Port Group 1 - iSCSI (setup with multiple VMKernels and
multi-pathing)

The 10gbps link between switches will tag the vMotion
and iSCSI VLANs between the switches and the two locations.

Not sure whether to go to the lengths of having the
Management traffic on its own VLAN or not - I'm not convinced I need it
for performance reasons nor for additional security in our environment.



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Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[Steven Peck]

ummm.. I got to go with get rid of crappy software causing instability
on DC during a planned outage and have a pre-scheduled support case open on
vipre.  If you contact support for vipre I would imagine they could help
with what to backup etc ahead of time.

Then if some random entity demands you begin using crappy leaky sieve
software again you can request alleged patched/updated version of it.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org


On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:27 AM, John Aldrich
wrote:

> Mainly laziness. Also, I don't know but what they'll want to start using it
> again. Plus I'm also concerned that if I remove it, since it also uses SQL
> Express (or whatever Microsoft is calling it these days) that it'll mess up
> my Vipre install, and I *really* don’t want to do that
>
>
>
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:23 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> Ok, ok. you guys got me.  I'll ask the stupid question of the day...
>
> "Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
> there, but we don’t use it anymore"
>
> If you don't use it anymore, WHY is it still on there
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM, John Aldrich  >
> wrote:
> Memory leaks. We were running ICVerify Network edition on there and
> apparently it leaks like a sieve, so we were rebooting it like every night.
> Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
> there, but we don’t use it anymore.
>
>
>
> From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?
>
> SJ
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>
> wrote:
> Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
> the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
> regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
> about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> Events on the other(s) DCs?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said
> she
> couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
> address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
> one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
> When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
> anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
> log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
> this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
> *after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
> from a power-cycle event.
>
> Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
> lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.
>
>
>
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RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[John Aldrich]

Mainly laziness. Also, I don't know but what they'll want to start using it
again. Plus I'm also concerned that if I remove it, since it also uses SQL
Express (or whatever Microsoft is calling it these days) that it'll mess up
my Vipre install, and I *really* don’t want to do that



From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Ok, ok. you guys got me.  I'll ask the stupid question of the day...  
 
"Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore"
 
If you don't use it anymore, WHY is it still on there
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Memory leaks. We were running ICVerify Network edition on there and
apparently it leaks like a sieve, so we were rebooting it like every night.
Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore.



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?
 
SJ
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.




-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Events on the other(s) DCs?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
*after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
from a power-cycle event.

Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.





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wit

Re: document sprawl

[S Powell]

that is a good thought.  We've discussed that, but we don't have projects
that end like that , tend to more have ongoing things.

i'd love to run a dedupe and and then pitch the extra copies, but then
people wouldn't know where to find anything because they wouldn't remember
where they put the originals.

welcome to the machine.


I 'm grateful for all the feedback on this topic and glad to know that I'm
not the only one facing some of these challenges.
Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.


On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 21:54, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

> A couple of things I could think of...
>
> Implement a product that does disk de-dupe?
>
> For project related work, incorporate document clean up into the project
> shutdown phase - make the manager responsible for putting the final versions
> of documents into whatever your master repository is
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 4 December 2010 6:45 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: document sprawl
>
> They ignore the warnings.  Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.  They
> would rather blame their inability to get work done on lack of storage
> rather than the fact they didn't clean up all of their old "stuff" to begin
> with.  This is an old battle.  One I'm weary of fighting.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: VIPCS [mailto:vi...@stny.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:34 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: document sprawl
>
> We think you can automatically send them warnings when they are close to
> their quotas.
>
> You also have leverage to negotiate with them at that point - an extra 10%
> increase in exchange for deleting old files, and you know what the quota was
> before, and can tell whether they are fulfilling their end of the agreement.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
> VIPCS
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 5:26 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: document sprawl
>
> Doesn't work.  They let them fill up and then gripe that they can't save
> their files because the file system is full.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: VIPCS [mailto:vi...@stny.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:14 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: document sprawl
>
> A bit simplistic, but have you considered disk quotas for server file
> storage?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
> VIPCS
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:swimbe...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:17 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: document sprawl
>
> I have attempted to tackle this issue before, I like to call it "encourage
> spring cleaning!" but my words always seem to fall on deaf ears.
>
> Lately every time I bring it up we end up buying more hard drives for the
> server!  I give up.  Maybe I'm just too cheap?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In regards to email, we were able to establish a retention policy that
> > messages in the Inbox, Sent Items, and Deleted Items folders are all
> deleted
> > after 90 days.  Exchange mailbox manager allowed to do that weekly.
> > Don't manage other folders.  Not perfect, but it helped.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Don Guyer 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd be interested in a solution to this. Been fighting it for years
> >> to no avail, other than running a "data inventory" program (such as
> >> TreeSize)
> and
> >> doing a manual compare.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Don't forget all of the email attachments saved along with the
> >> original email.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> J
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Don Guyer
> >>
> >> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> >>
> >> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> >>
> >> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> >>
> >> Devon, PA 19333
> >>
> >> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> >>
> >> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> >>
> >> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:17 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: document sprawl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello Everybody 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd like to pick your brains about how you deal with document sprawl,
> >> I was reading in another thread about how users would use their
> >> "Recycle Bin" as their archive. 
> >>
> >> we have users that will keep tens of copies of the same document in
> >> various locations around their "My Documents"; as well as in tens of
> >> locations within  our "shared" folders on the network ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> User education only goes so far when it comes to "please don't do that"
> as
> >> they nod and then keep doing it.
> >>
> >>  I think we've moved beyond being nice and we've found ourselves
> >>
> >> mired in needing a sledgehammer.  I'd just like to wrap it in a bit
> >> of velvet.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thoughts, Po

Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[Don Ely]

Ok, ok. you guys got me.  I'll ask the stupid question of the day...

"Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore"

If you don't use it anymore, WHY is it still on there

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM, John Aldrich
wrote:

> Memory leaks. We were running ICVerify Network edition on there and
> apparently it leaks like a sieve, so we were rebooting it like every night.
> Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
> there, but we don’t use it anymore.
>
>
>
> From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?
>
> SJ
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>
> wrote:
> Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
> the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
> regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
> about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> Events on the other(s) DCs?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said
> she
> couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
> address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
> one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
> When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
> anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
> log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
> this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
> *after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
> from a power-cycle event.
>
> Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
> lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.
>
>
>
>
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Meru wireless?

[David Lum]

Anyone here have experience with Meru wireless controllers? I'm just in the 
first couple of hours of a 3 day class but it strikes me as more like a Cisco 
class than "some wireless AP". I'm guessing most enterprise class wireless 
controllers/systems are similar.

Good thing I had a Cisco class years ago as well as managed switch experience, 
so far it's almost like a networking review...

Dave


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RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[John Aldrich]

Memory leaks. We were running ICVerify Network edition on there and
apparently it leaks like a sieve, so we were rebooting it like every night.
Now we just reboot a couple times a week, because ICVerify is still on
there, but we don’t use it anymore.



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?
 
SJ
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:
Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.




-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Events on the other(s) DCs?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
*after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
from a power-cycle event.

Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.





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Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[Stefan Jafs]

And why do you re-boot your DC every weekend?

SJ

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich
wrote:

> Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
> the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
> regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
> about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> Events on the other(s) DCs?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness
>
> This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said
> she
> couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
> address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
> one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
> When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
> anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
> log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
> this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
> *after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
> from a power-cycle event.
>
> Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
> lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.
>
>
>
>
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RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[John Aldrich]

Well, after looking at the events on the other DC, it would *appear* that
the DC did not completely restart like it was supposed to after it's
regularly scheduled reboot over the weekend. :-( There were numerous errors
about being unable to sync the domain controllers, DFSR, etc.




-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

Events on the other(s) DCs?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
*after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
from a power-cycle event.

Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.





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Re: IPAD vs Android tablets

[Stefan Jafs]

I think $499

SJ

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> thinking that will be cheaper than an iPad?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Stefan Jafs wrote:
>
>> Alternatively wait for the BB Playbook, security will not be an issue
>> since all data is stored on the BB phone not the Playbook, however it's only
>> 7" for now.
>> http://us.blackberry.com/playbook-tablet/?IID=us:rim:homepage:PlayBook
>>
>> SJ
>>  On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:24 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>>  We are being asked to look for a tablet that is close to an IPAD.  10
>>> inch screen, 6 to 8 hours of battery, 3G/Wifi, decent speed, 2.2 OS, mainly
>>> being used for remote desktop to servers for Dr’s in hospitals and clinics.
>>> The keyboard on the IPAD is really good, and the Bluetooth add on KB works
>>> pretty decent.  The Doctors like the IPAD, but the practice does not want to
>>> spend 800 a device.Swappable battery would be HUGE!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone have comparisons or used alternatives that might meet this
>>> application.  The Verizon tablet may be a good fit, but the smaller screen
>>> is not high up there with the DOCS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Greg Sweers*
>>>
>>> CEO
>>>
>>> *ACTS360.com ***
>>>
>>> *P.O. Box 1193*
>>>
>>> *Brandon, FL  33509*
>>>
>>> *813-657-0849 Office*
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Re: IPAD vs Android tablets

[Jeff Brown]

thinking that will be cheaper than an iPad?

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Stefan Jafs  wrote:

> Alternatively wait for the BB Playbook, security will not be an issue since
> all data is stored on the BB phone not the Playbook, however it's only 7"
> for now.
> http://us.blackberry.com/playbook-tablet/?IID=us:rim:homepage:PlayBook
>
> SJ
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:24 PM,  wrote:
>
>>  We are being asked to look for a tablet that is close to an IPAD.  10
>> inch screen, 6 to 8 hours of battery, 3G/Wifi, decent speed, 2.2 OS, mainly
>> being used for remote desktop to servers for Dr’s in hospitals and clinics.
>> The keyboard on the IPAD is really good, and the Bluetooth add on KB works
>> pretty decent.  The Doctors like the IPAD, but the practice does not want to
>> spend 800 a device.Swappable battery would be HUGE!
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone have comparisons or used alternatives that might meet this
>> application.  The Verizon tablet may be a good fit, but the smaller screen
>> is not high up there with the DOCS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thx
>>
>>
>>
>> *Greg Sweers*
>>
>> CEO
>>
>> *ACTS360.com ***
>>
>> *P.O. Box 1193*
>>
>> *Brandon, FL  33509*
>>
>> *813-657-0849 Office*
>>
>> *813-758-6850 Cell*
>>
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>>
>>
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Slightly OT: carts for laptops

[Tom Miller]

Folks,
 
I am looking for carts for laptops.  Staff will be using the laptops to enter 
data in our medical system.  The carts will move from room to room during the 
day and in storage at night.  Something where staff would be standing, I think. 
 A built-in power strip would be nice.
 
Suggestions?
 
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Re: IPAD vs Android tablets

[Stefan Jafs]

Alternatively wait for the BB Playbook, security will not be an issue since
all data is stored on the BB phone not the Playbook, however it's only 7"
for now.
http://us.blackberry.com/playbook-tablet/?IID=us:rim:homepage:PlayBook

SJ
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:24 PM,  wrote:

>  We are being asked to look for a tablet that is close to an IPAD.  10
> inch screen, 6 to 8 hours of battery, 3G/Wifi, decent speed, 2.2 OS, mainly
> being used for remote desktop to servers for Dr’s in hospitals and clinics.
> The keyboard on the IPAD is really good, and the Bluetooth add on KB works
> pretty decent.  The Doctors like the IPAD, but the practice does not want to
> spend 800 a device.Swappable battery would be HUGE!
>
>
>
> Anyone have comparisons or used alternatives that might meet this
> application.  The Verizon tablet may be a good fit, but the smaller screen
> is not high up there with the DOCS.
>
>
>
> Thx
>
>
>
> *Greg Sweers*
>
> CEO
>
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>
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RE: IPAD vs Android tablets

[Ziots, Edward]

Is the traffic between the EMR site and the tablet encrypted? ( Proves
Confidentiality of the information being transferred between the client
and the EMR)? (IPSEC or TLS/SSLv3)

 

If emails get stored on the devices, then electronic communications
within the non-encrypted emails, could contain PHI/PII or other
sensitive company communications  that if divulged to the public or a
malicious third party could bring about information disclosure, or
breach notification laws.  Not trying to beat you up Greg, but just
because you say the users aren't sending information with HIPAA related
information anymore, doesn't mean they still aren't doing it. ( We all
know folks are ignorant of policies, and/or circumvent them for various
reasons)

 

Also, I am not sure there is any forensically sound data wiping
utilities for the IPAD/Iphone/ ( Other mobile device) therefore if they
obtain the device itself ( Physical Theft) its only a matter of time
that all the information on the device will be obtained. Either that or
a more sinister plot is to plant a rootkit on the device, or a backdoor
as a legit application, and re-introduce it back to the users and
monitor all the information crossing said device and gleam the
information form afar, thus having complete control over the device and
obtaining multiple different sets of information, credentials, to
conduct more nefarious deeds. 

 

There has been plenty of attacks against RDP accordingly ( MITM, namely)
that could be brought to bear, but I would assume that's a low risk type
of attack, if they got the network between you and the EMR, you
basically toasty anyways. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
[mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPAD vs Android tablets

 

Heard and being addressed.  The main function is for RDP back into their
server farm to access their EMR applications while on rounds in
hospitals and doing clinics/on call.

 

Email would be the only thing to get stored on the devices and they do
not send anything Hipaa within emails anymore.

 

Greg Sweers

CEO

ACTS360.com  

P.O. Box 1193

Brandon, FL  33509

813-657-0849 Office

813-758-6850 Cell

813-341-1270 Fax

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 4:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPAD vs Android tablets

 

Honestly the security features on a lot of things Tablets are lacking,
and probably will not satisify MASS CMR 201.17 for data encryption of
EPHI/PII, along with leaving you open for more issues within HIPAA and
the HItech Act, therefore you might want to seriously reconsider using
these to view store EPHI/PII. If they get lost without that data
encrypted, you have a breach on your hands and all the nasties that come
along with it. 

 

So for those in the healthcare/medical areas, be very very careful, 

 

Z 

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 3:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPAD vs Android tablets

 

iPad. It just works. "The cost is ridiculous"? That's subjective. Either
accept it, or wait three to five years for market commoditization.
There's no right or entitlement to the tech and service being available
now. 

Redefine the need, scope and phasing, and go with what works. 

(Not an Apple fan per se, btw. /all/ my "full" computing needs are
non-Apple. But 3G/Wifi tablet? Apple). 



From: "Mike Gill"  

Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 12:38:43 -0800

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: IPAD vs Android tablets

 

Really take a close look and spend some time with the Android devices.
As someone else mentioned, they may not have the official Android Market
Place available on that device. I purchase a smaller screen Cruz Micro
reader from Borders (Android 2.2) and it was a complete joke. Not even
Beta quality. The Cruz market only had hundreds of apps, and many that I
downloaded didn't work or told me they worked best using the roller ball
of the phone. Search of the market was non-functional, alarms could not
be unset once set, the resistive touch screen worked 2/3rd the time. I
could go on. At least they took it back.

 

This is a good read:

http://liliputing.com/2010/09/google-android-isnt-designed-for-tablets-y
et.html

 

So there are a couple tablets out there that may have potential, but my
guess is most will leave people shaking their heads.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
[mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:25 PM
To: NT System Admi

RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[Maglinger, Paul]

Events on the other(s) DCs?

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
*after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
from a power-cycle event.

Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.





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Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[Don Ely]

Ooops, sorry, I was testing something...

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:17 AM, John Aldrich
wrote:

> This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said
> she
> couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
> address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
> one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
> When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
> anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
> log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
> this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
> *after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
> from a power-cycle event.
>
> Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
> lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.
>
>
>
>
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RE: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[Carl Houseman]

Hard lockups are hardware related.  Generally speaking a single incident
doesn't imply a trend or serious problem unless there's a 2nd & 3rd incident
within a short time.  If the problem is infrequent, it may not be worth the
time to research or fix.  I have a hard lockup on my laptop about every 6
months which doesn't concern me.

If there's a 2nd incident, or if you don't want to wait for a 2nd incident,
move the DHCP function to another machine and run an overnight RAM test.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
*after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
from a power-cycle event.

Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.





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Re: Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[Kurt Buff]

You've already stated that there were some interesting messages in the
event log.

Pursue those.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 06:17, John Aldrich  wrote:
> This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
> couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
> address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
> one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
> When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
> anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
> log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
> this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
> *after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
> from a power-cycle event.
>
> Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
> lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: IPAD vs Android tablets

[greg.sweers]

Heard and being addressed.  The main function is for RDP back into their server 
farm to access their EMR applications while on rounds in hospitals and doing 
clinics/on call.

Email would be the only thing to get stored on the devices and they do not send 
anything Hipaa within emails anymore.

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 4:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPAD vs Android tablets

Honestly the security features on a lot of things Tablets are lacking, and 
probably will not satisify MASS CMR 201.17 for data encryption of EPHI/PII, 
along with leaving you open for more issues within HIPAA and the HItech Act, 
therefore you might want to seriously reconsider using these to view store 
EPHI/PII. If they get lost without that data encrypted, you have a breach on 
your hands and all the nasties that come along with it.

So for those in the healthcare/medical areas, be very very careful,

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 3:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPAD vs Android tablets

iPad. It just works. "The cost is ridiculous"? That's subjective. Either accept 
it, or wait three to five years for market commoditization. There's no right or 
entitlement to the tech and service being available now.

Redefine the need, scope and phasing, and go with what works.

(Not an Apple fan per se, btw. /all/ my "full" computing needs are non-Apple. 
But 3G/Wifi tablet? Apple).

From: "Mike Gill" 
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 12:38:43 -0800
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: IPAD vs Android tablets

Really take a close look and spend some time with the Android devices. As 
someone else mentioned, they may not have the official Android Market Place 
available on that device. I purchase a smaller screen Cruz Micro reader from 
Borders (Android 2.2) and it was a complete joke. Not even Beta quality. The 
Cruz market only had hundreds of apps, and many that I downloaded didn't work 
or told me they worked best using the roller ball of the phone. Search of the 
market was non-functional, alarms could not be unset once set, the resistive 
touch screen worked 2/3rd the time. I could go on. At least they took it back.

This is a good read:
http://liliputing.com/2010/09/google-android-isnt-designed-for-tablets-yet.html

So there are a couple tablets out there that may have potential, but my guess 
is most will leave people shaking their heads.

--
Mike Gill

From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IPAD vs Android tablets

We are being asked to look for a tablet that is close to an IPAD.  10 inch 
screen, 6 to 8 hours of battery, 3G/Wifi, decent speed, 2.2 OS, mainly being 
used for remote desktop to servers for Dr's in hospitals and clinics.  The 
keyboard on the IPAD is really good, and the Bluetooth add on KB works pretty 
decent.  The Doctors like the IPAD, but the practice does not want to spend 800 
a device.Swappable battery would be HUGE!

Anyone have comparisons or used alternatives that might meet this application.  
The Verizon tablet may be a good fit, but the smaller screen is not high up 
there with the DOCS.

Thx

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax


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Win 2003 R2 strangeness

[John Aldrich]

This morning, one of my users (Windows Vista user, FWIW) called and said she
couldn't get online. I checked and sure enough, she didn't have an IP
address. I finally figured out that our DC which handles the DHCP leases,
one DNS, etc was locked up. I couldn't even get a picture on the monitor.
When I rebooted the machine and logged in I noticed that it stopped logging
anything around 8:15 this morning, but there were no messages in the event
log from around 8:15 until the system came back up after I power-cycled it
this morning around 8:45, however, there were some interesting messages
*after* the system came back up that I chalked up to just having recovered
from a power-cycle event.

Any ideas where to look for the problem? Unfortunately, we let maintenance
lapse on the server. It's a Dell Poweredge 2900, if that matters any.





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Re: DC logon strangeness

[RS]

What's the strangeness?  Did I miss something?  It's early, so I definitely
could have missed something...

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Laurence
wrote:

> DNS is setup as follows
>
> 2 x head office DCs are DNS servers and point to the ISP servers for
> forwarding
>
> each remote office DC is also a DNS server for local clients and is set so
> that the HO DCs are their forwarders
>
> HO has DHCP setup to give out a IP address and DNS server settings for the
> local HO LAN
>
> firewall has a block all rule and the following exceptions (amongst
> others):
>
> IT Tech team - speak to everything
> DCs at remote offices speak to DCs at Head Office for DNS / Time / AD Synch
> DCs at Head Office speak to DCs at remote offices AD Synch
>
> reason being that head office to remote office comms is over MPLS VPN. HO
> is on 10MB pipe each of the 25 remote sites is on 512kb pipe
>
> regards
>
> Laurence
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