RE: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I can agree with that,  I am in a  unique situation where I am deploying a 
completely new infrastructure and have decided  to deploy everything on Server 
2012.   All and all I have been very happy with 2012.

Cheers
Ryan


From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

No... doesn't even make good sense for them to do so.

Companies, at least those with some level of operational maturity, need to have 
a chance to begin testing a deployment of a new server OS and evaluating it 
before they begin the process of putting critical business applications on that 
new operating system.

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

I would of thought they would have had all the service packs ready when they 
released Server 2012 but maybe I am just trying to push the envelope  a bit too 
quickly.

From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
[mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

Yep.  Same with Config Mgr.

On a side note, Exchange 2010 SP3 is going to be coming out, which will allow 
Exchange 2013 boxes in your 2010 environment, and allow Exch 2010 on Server 
2012.  So, Exchange doesn't work on Server 2012 at the moment, either.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Enterprise Server Support

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:41 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

Am I correct that I cannot use System Center 2012 - DPM or OM with Server 2012 
until System Center 2012 SP1 is released?

Cheers
Ryan


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RE: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

[Michael B. Smith]

No... doesn't even make good sense for them to do so.

Companies, at least those with some level of operational maturity, need to have 
a chance to begin testing a deployment of a new server OS and evaluating it 
before they begin the process of putting critical business applications on that 
new operating system.

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

I would of thought they would have had all the service packs ready when they 
released Server 2012 but maybe I am just trying to push the envelope  a bit too 
quickly.

From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
[mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

Yep.  Same with Config Mgr.

On a side note, Exchange 2010 SP3 is going to be coming out, which will allow 
Exchange 2013 boxes in your 2010 environment, and allow Exch 2010 on Server 
2012.  So, Exchange doesn't work on Server 2012 at the moment, either.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Enterprise Server Support

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:41 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

Am I correct that I cannot use System Center 2012 - DPM or OM with Server 2012 
until System Center 2012 SP1 is released?

Cheers
Ryan


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RE: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I would of thought they would have had all the service packs ready when they 
released Server 2012 but maybe I am just trying to push the envelope  a bit too 
quickly.

From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

Yep.  Same with Config Mgr.

On a side note, Exchange 2010 SP3 is going to be coming out, which will allow 
Exchange 2013 boxes in your 2010 environment, and allow Exch 2010 on Server 
2012.  So, Exchange doesn't work on Server 2012 at the moment, either.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Enterprise Server Support

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:41 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server 2012 - System Center 2012?

Am I correct that I cannot use System Center 2012 - DPM or OM with Server 2012 
until System Center 2012 SP1 is released?

Cheers
Ryan


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Re: Side Job Pricing

[James Kerr]

He is just pulling cable but I imagine it will be inspected by an inspector
to make sure it installed to meet whatever the low voltage wiring code is.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> True enough. I didn't catch that.
>
> However, is he actually installing a structured cabling system, to a
> specific standard?
>
> Or is he just pulling cable?
>
> If the latter, then the CableIQ unit might be all you need.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:02 PM, James Kerr  wrote:
> > Ruh oh, that $1600 unit qualifies runs but doesn't certify. I can rent a
> > Fluke DSP-4300 for $700 for a month, that will work.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:47 PM, James Kerr 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> So then perhaps $50 per terminated and certified wire is fair? I could
> buy
> >> the tester at $1600 and still make out well for myself at 300
> terminations.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Kurt Buff 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Rent one, or if you're serious about doing this kind of work on the
> >>> side as a revenue-enhancer, buy one anyway and write it off on your
> >>> taxes as a professional expense. The Fluke CableIQ line is very nice,
> >>> and fairly reasonable on price - about $1600US at Provantage
> >>> :http://www.provantage.com/fluke-networks-ciq-kit~7FLUK0AA.htm
> >>>
> >>> Kurt
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:44 AM, James Kerr 
> wrote:
> >>> > I don't have the cash to buy the tester to certify. I just have the
> >>> > basic
> >>> > everything in the right place and connected tester.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Michael B. Smith
> >>> > 
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Are you going to certify them too?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Regardless, I have no idea how to price this, but I always want my
> >>> >> drops
> >>> >> certified…
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:14 AM
> >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> >> Subject: Side Job Pricing
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> So I have this side job that's being offer to me by an electrician I
> >>> >> know.
> >>> >> He is running some cabling CAT5 and CAT6. He wants me to terminate
> it
> >>> >> all
> >>> >> (patch panels and wall jacks). I assume he wants me to tone out and
> >>> >> label
> >>> >> the wall jacks. There is about 300 runs to terminate and he wants to
> >>> >> know
> >>> >> how much I would charge for each one. Anyone know what the going
> rate
> >>> >> is for
> >>> >> this? I know how much to charge for a full drop but not for part of
> >>> >> it.
> >>> >> Maybe I should just estimate how many I can do an hour and figure
> out
> >>> >> how
> >>> >> much I want to make an hour. It's a little tricky since I never
> timed
> >>> >> how
> >>> >> many I can do in an hour before.
> >>> >>
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RE: Pen test vendors

[Glen Johnson]

And he is really nice guy to boot.
He knows more cisco than I'd ever dream of trying to learn.
Hate that he left his previous gig as I could call him any time for advice.  I 
think now he'd have to charge for it.

From: Shane Mullins [mailto:tsmulli...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 8:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Pen test vendors

Sycom has an excellent pen tester.  CCIE Security, CISSP as well as pen certs.

Shane

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Kennedy, Jim 
mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org>> wrote:


My kid, he is famous. :)

https://www.trustedsec.com/



If he is too busy for you, or too expensive or not what you need let me know. 
He has a boatload of connections in that business that he/I can refer you to. 
He is REALLY busy this week. It's DerbyCon this week and he owns/runs that 
conference.


From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Pen test vendors

Anyone have recommendations for reputable external pen and vulnerability 
testing vendors?

Thanks,
Richard

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RE: (homedrive)

[Webster]

I know old thread but it is relevant to a project I am now.

> I've been discussing it offline with Brian D and he said he had reached out to
> someone, he has a pretty long reach so I expect some better answers are
> forthcoming. :-)

Did any "better answers" come forth?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: (homedrive)
> 
> The way it was explained to me was if the profile tab was used in ADUC to
> make the setting, that it is legacy NT. Makes sense when you think about
> other methods to do it that than the legacy ones, such as GPP or GPO login
> scripts. In our case we were only talking about the home directory and login
> script. Profiles or software installation are another case.
> 
> I've been discussing it offline with Brian D and he said he had reached out to
> someone, he has a pretty long reach so I expect some better answers are
> forthcoming. :-)
> 
> If you are struggling with slow logins, I'd strongly suggest getting familiar
> with xperf. It's an amazing tool.
> 
> The "Dude where's my PFE" blog  is a great resource for xperf.
> 
>  http://blogs.technet.com/b/jeff_stokes/archive/2011/12/05/xperf-o-
> rama.aspx
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: (homedrive)
> 
> I've been following this thread very closely as we've experienced extremely
> slow logins and yes we use the roaming profile and home directory settings
> on the profile tab in ADU&C.
> Does anyone know what the statement, "When a user has a roaming user
> profile or a home directory for logon purposes", actually means?
> Specifically the part, for logon purposes?
> Does it just mean that if the user has a home directory or profile defined or
> something totally different?
> Also, what is the recommended way to do home directory mapping and
> profiles, if not in the profile tab?
> From some of the links, I'm guessing a group policy preference, but not
> sure.


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Re: Side Job Pricing

[Kurt Buff]

True enough. I didn't catch that.

However, is he actually installing a structured cabling system, to a
specific standard?

Or is he just pulling cable?

If the latter, then the CableIQ unit might be all you need.

Kurt

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:02 PM, James Kerr  wrote:
> Ruh oh, that $1600 unit qualifies runs but doesn't certify. I can rent a
> Fluke DSP-4300 for $700 for a month, that will work.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:47 PM, James Kerr  wrote:
>>
>> So then perhaps $50 per terminated and certified wire is fair? I could buy
>> the tester at $1600 and still make out well for myself at 300 terminations.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>>
>>> Rent one, or if you're serious about doing this kind of work on the
>>> side as a revenue-enhancer, buy one anyway and write it off on your
>>> taxes as a professional expense. The Fluke CableIQ line is very nice,
>>> and fairly reasonable on price - about $1600US at Provantage
>>> :http://www.provantage.com/fluke-networks-ciq-kit~7FLUK0AA.htm
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:44 AM, James Kerr  wrote:
>>> > I don't have the cash to buy the tester to certify. I just have the
>>> > basic
>>> > everything in the right place and connected tester.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Michael B. Smith
>>> > 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Are you going to certify them too?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Regardless, I have no idea how to price this, but I always want my
>>> >> drops
>>> >> certified…
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:14 AM
>>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> >> Subject: Side Job Pricing
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> So I have this side job that's being offer to me by an electrician I
>>> >> know.
>>> >> He is running some cabling CAT5 and CAT6. He wants me to terminate it
>>> >> all
>>> >> (patch panels and wall jacks). I assume he wants me to tone out and
>>> >> label
>>> >> the wall jacks. There is about 300 runs to terminate and he wants to
>>> >> know
>>> >> how much I would charge for each one. Anyone know what the going rate
>>> >> is for
>>> >> this? I know how much to charge for a full drop but not for part of
>>> >> it.
>>> >> Maybe I should just estimate how many I can do an hour and figure out
>>> >> how
>>> >> much I want to make an hour. It's a little tricky since I never timed
>>> >> how
>>> >> many I can do in an hour before.
>>> >>
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RE: Pen test vendors

[Stu Sjouwerman]

Give him Kevin’s new book Ghost In The Wires and he’s be hooked for life…

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

My 19yr old is a computer geek wannabe (he has done misc. work for me and picks 
stuff up QUICK). Today I asked if he was serious about wanting to be an IT guy 
like me, to which he replied in the affirmative. I told him his first task is 
to “Tell me who Kevin Mitnik is, list some things he’s done, and why might an 
IT guy care about knowing this”. I figure I’ll get him on the security slant 
first. ☺

Dave

From: Stu Sjouwerman 
[mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

Hee hee!

He’s been a (very) successful security consultant since 2000,
and he’s a real business partner of mine in KnowBe4.  Great
guy to work with too. We wrote the Kevin Mitnick Security
Awareness Training together over an 8 month period.

Stu


From: Ziots, Edward 
[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: rich...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

LOL Stu,

You know Kevin is Banned from touching computers anymore… ☺

Z

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
ezi...@lifespan.org

From: Stu Sjouwerman 
[mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: 'rich...@gmail.com'
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

Richard,

If it’s a relatively straightforward outside-in vulnerability check that gives
you  the low-hanging fruit, combined with an hour of consulting by a white-hat
hacker, than I can do that for you here at KnowBe4 for a –very- low price.
http://www.knowbe4.com/products/vulnerability-scanning/

If you want a high-end pen test done, I can get you in touch with my business 
partner Kevin Mitnick.

Warm regards,
Stu


From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Pen test vendors

Anyone have recommendations for reputable external pen and vulnerability 
testing vendors?

Thanks,
Richard

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RE: Pen test vendors

[Maglinger, Paul]

Tell him to be an air traffic controller.  Less stress and the hours are 
better!  ☺

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

My 19yr old is a computer geek wannabe (he has done misc. work for me and picks 
stuff up QUICK). Today I asked if he was serious about wanting to be an IT guy 
like me, to which he replied in the affirmative. I told him his first task is 
to “Tell me who Kevin Mitnik is, list some things he’s done, and why might an 
IT guy care about knowing this”. I figure I’ll get him on the security slant 
first. ☺

Dave

From: Stu Sjouwerman 
[mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

Hee hee!

He’s been a (very) successful security consultant since 2000,
and he’s a real business partner of mine in KnowBe4.  Great
guy to work with too. We wrote the Kevin Mitnick Security
Awareness Training together over an 8 month period.

Stu


From: Ziots, Edward 
[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: rich...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

LOL Stu,

You know Kevin is Banned from touching computers anymore… ☺

Z

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
ezi...@lifespan.org

From: Stu Sjouwerman 
[mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: 'rich...@gmail.com'
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

Richard,

If it’s a relatively straightforward outside-in vulnerability check that gives
you  the low-hanging fruit, combined with an hour of consulting by a white-hat
hacker, than I can do that for you here at KnowBe4 for a –very- low price.
http://www.knowbe4.com/products/vulnerability-scanning/

If you want a high-end pen test done, I can get you in touch with my business 
partner Kevin Mitnick.

Warm regards,
Stu


From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Pen test vendors

Anyone have recommendations for reputable external pen and vulnerability 
testing vendors?

Thanks,
Richard

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Re: Pen test vendors

[Steven Peck]

Then he could be a 'personailty' and talk about random stuff and still make
money.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> The only danger there is that he might get pulled into Steve Gibson and
> Leo Laporte land...
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
>>  My 19yr old is a computer geek wannabe (he has done misc. work for me
>> and picks stuff up QUICK). Today I asked if he was serious about wanting to
>> be an IT guy like me, to which he replied in the affirmative. I told him
>> his first task is to “Tell me who Kevin Mitnik is, list some things he’s
>> done, and why might an IT guy care about knowing this”. I figure I’ll get
>> him on the security slant first. J
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:11 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Pen test vendors
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> Hee hee!
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> He’s been a (very) successful security consultant since 2000,
>>
>> and he’s a real business partner of mine in KnowBe4.  Great
>>
>> guy to work with too. We wrote the Kevin Mitnick Security
>>
>> Awareness Training together over an 8 month period.
>>
>>
>> Stu 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:55 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Cc:* rich...@gmail.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Pen test vendors
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> LOL Stu, 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> You know Kevin is Banned from touching computers anymore… J 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Z
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
>>
>> Security Engineer
>>
>> Lifespan Organization
>>
>> ezi...@lifespan.org
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:50 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Cc:* 'rich...@gmail.com'
>> *Subject:* RE: Pen test vendors
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> If it’s a relatively straightforward outside-in vulnerability check that
>> gives
>>
>> you  the low-hanging fruit, combined with an hour of consulting by a
>> white-hat
>>
>> hacker, than I can do that for you here at KnowBe4 for a –very- low price.
>> 
>>
>> http://www.knowbe4.com/products/vulnerability-scanning/
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> If you want a high-end pen test done, I can get you in touch with my
>> business partner Kevin Mitnick.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Stu 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com ]
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 11:20 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Pen test vendors
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Anyone have recommendations for reputable external pen and vulnerability
>> testing vendors?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>>
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Re: Pen test vendors

[Jonathan Link]

The only danger there is that he might get pulled into Steve Gibson and Leo
Laporte land...


On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM, David Lum  wrote:

>  My 19yr old is a computer geek wannabe (he has done misc. work for me
> and picks stuff up QUICK). Today I asked if he was serious about wanting to
> be an IT guy like me, to which he replied in the affirmative. I told him
> his first task is to “Tell me who Kevin Mitnik is, list some things he’s
> done, and why might an IT guy care about knowing this”. I figure I’ll get
> him on the security slant first. J
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:11 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Pen test vendors
>
>  ** **
>
> Hee hee!
>
> ** **
>
> He’s been a (very) successful security consultant since 2000,
>
> and he’s a real business partner of mine in KnowBe4.  Great
>
> guy to work with too. We wrote the Kevin Mitnick Security
>
> Awareness Training together over an 8 month period.
>
>
> Stu 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:55 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Cc:* rich...@gmail.com
> *Subject:* RE: Pen test vendors
>
> ** **
>
> LOL Stu, 
>
> ** **
>
> You know Kevin is Banned from touching computers anymore… J 
>
> ** **
>
> Z
>
> ** **
>
> Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
>
> Security Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:50 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Cc:* 'rich...@gmail.com'
> *Subject:* RE: Pen test vendors
>
> ** **
>
> Richard,
>
> ** **
>
> If it’s a relatively straightforward outside-in vulnerability check that
> gives
>
> you  the low-hanging fruit, combined with an hour of consulting by a
> white-hat
>
> hacker, than I can do that for you here at KnowBe4 for a –very- low price.
> 
>
> http://www.knowbe4.com/products/vulnerability-scanning/
>
> ** **
>
> If you want a high-end pen test done, I can get you in touch with my
> business partner Kevin Mitnick.
>
> ** **
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Stu 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com ]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 11:20 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Pen test vendors
>
> ** **
>
> Anyone have recommendations for reputable external pen and vulnerability
> testing vendors?
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
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RE: Pen test vendors

[David Lum]

My 19yr old is a computer geek wannabe (he has done misc. work for me and picks 
stuff up QUICK). Today I asked if he was serious about wanting to be an IT guy 
like me, to which he replied in the affirmative. I told him his first task is 
to “Tell me who Kevin Mitnik is, list some things he’s done, and why might an 
IT guy care about knowing this”. I figure I’ll get him on the security slant 
first. ☺

Dave

From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

Hee hee!

He’s been a (very) successful security consultant since 2000,
and he’s a real business partner of mine in KnowBe4.  Great
guy to work with too. We wrote the Kevin Mitnick Security
Awareness Training together over an 8 month period.

Stu


From: Ziots, Edward 
[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: rich...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

LOL Stu,

You know Kevin is Banned from touching computers anymore… ☺

Z

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
ezi...@lifespan.org

From: Stu Sjouwerman 
[mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: 'rich...@gmail.com'
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

Richard,

If it’s a relatively straightforward outside-in vulnerability check that gives
you  the low-hanging fruit, combined with an hour of consulting by a white-hat
hacker, than I can do that for you here at KnowBe4 for a –very- low price.
http://www.knowbe4.com/products/vulnerability-scanning/

If you want a high-end pen test done, I can get you in touch with my business 
partner Kevin Mitnick.

Warm regards,
Stu


From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Pen test vendors

Anyone have recommendations for reputable external pen and vulnerability 
testing vendors?

Thanks,
Richard

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RE: Pen test vendors

[Stu Sjouwerman]

Hee hee!

He’s been a (very) successful security consultant since 2000,
and he’s a real business partner of mine in KnowBe4.  Great
guy to work with too. We wrote the Kevin Mitnick Security
Awareness Training together over an 8 month period.

Stu


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: rich...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

LOL Stu,

You know Kevin is Banned from touching computers anymore… ☺

Z

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
ezi...@lifespan.org

From: Stu Sjouwerman 
[mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: 'rich...@gmail.com'
Subject: RE: Pen test vendors

Richard,

If it’s a relatively straightforward outside-in vulnerability check that gives
you  the low-hanging fruit, combined with an hour of consulting by a white-hat
hacker, than I can do that for you here at KnowBe4 for a –very- low price.
http://www.knowbe4.com/products/vulnerability-scanning/

If you want a high-end pen test done, I can get you in touch with my business 
partner Kevin Mitnick.

Warm regards,
Stu


From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Pen test vendors

Anyone have recommendations for reputable external pen and vulnerability 
testing vendors?

Thanks,
Richard

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Re: Powershell question - listing groups a user belongs to, and the notes/description of the group

[Michael Leone]

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:15 AM, KenM  wrote:
> With Quest
>
> get-qadmemberof  USERNAME | Select name, notes

Well, THAT was stunningly easy! LOL Thanks. That will make the report
a whole lot easier, I think ...

I will have to read up on these Quest addins 

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RE: .net 3.5 windows 8 failing

[itli...@imcu.com]

I had a domain user account added to local admin group.  Not good
enough.

I logged off and  back on as domain admin and the dism command worked.

Thanks all.

 

 

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Posted At: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:55 AM
Posted To: itli...@imcu.com
Conversation: .net 3.5 windows 8 failing
Subject: RE: .net 3.5 windows 8 failing

 

Yes, sorry I wasn't clear. In that case it automagically dl's the
installation archive and installs it. But if you've got the media, why
waste the bandwidth?

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .net 3.5 windows 8 failing

 

Can't it grab it from the Microsoft.com, assuming there's an active
internet connection?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012 11:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .net 3.5 windows 8 failing

 

You have to point it to sources\sxs on the DVD, or dl the installation
archive and install it.

 

From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: .net 3.5 windows 8 failing

 

Trying the DISM method of adding this feature and failing???

Says the module is not present on my DVD?

 

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Re: Powershell question - listing groups a user belongs to, and the notes/description of the group

[KenM]

With Quest

get-qadmemberof  USERNAME | Select name, notes

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Michael Leone  wrote:

> I have this request to list all the groups a specific set of users
> belong to. Since we use groups to control ACLs, this can (effectively)
> be a listing of all the shared folders the user has access to (we list
> the location of the shared folder in the notes of the group).  I'm
> still new to PS, and could use a bit of a pointer as to how to get to
> the description. To get the list of groups, I am planning on:
>
> import-module ActiveDirectory
> cd AD:
>
> and then loop through a text file of SAMAccountNames:
>
> Get-ADUser -Identity LeoneM -Properties memberof | select
> -ExpandProperty memberof | get-adgroup | select name
>
> This would give me the names of the groups (thank you, Google ...),
> but how do I get to the descriptions of the groups that are returned?
> I don't seem to see the notes property in the adgroup. How can I list
> that attribute of the returned group?
>
> If someone has a better idea, I'm all ears. :-)
>
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Re: Powershell question - listing groups a user belongs to, and the notes/description of the group

[Christopher Bodnar]

With the Quest CMDLets this works:

get-qaduser jdoe -properties memberof|select -expandProperty 
memberof|get-qadgroup|select name,notes



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From:   Michael Leone 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   09/26/2012 10:46 AM
Subject:Powershell question - listing groups a user belongs to, 
and the notes/description of the group



I have this request to list all the groups a specific set of users
belong to. Since we use groups to control ACLs, this can (effectively)
be a listing of all the shared folders the user has access to (we list
the location of the shared folder in the notes of the group).  I'm
still new to PS, and could use a bit of a pointer as to how to get to
the description. To get the list of groups, I am planning on:

import-module ActiveDirectory
cd AD:

and then loop through a text file of SAMAccountNames:

Get-ADUser -Identity LeoneM -Properties memberof | select
-ExpandProperty memberof | get-adgroup | select name

This would give me the names of the groups (thank you, Google ...),
but how do I get to the descriptions of the groups that are returned?
I don't seem to see the notes property in the adgroup. How can I list
that attribute of the returned group?

If someone has a better idea, I'm all ears. :-)

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Re: Side Job Pricing

[Kurt Buff]

Rent one, or if you're serious about doing this kind of work on the
side as a revenue-enhancer, buy one anyway and write it off on your
taxes as a professional expense. The Fluke CableIQ line is very nice,
and fairly reasonable on price - about $1600US at Provantage
:http://www.provantage.com/fluke-networks-ciq-kit~7FLUK0AA.htm

Kurt

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:44 AM, James Kerr  wrote:
> I don't have the cash to buy the tester to certify. I just have the basic
> everything in the right place and connected tester.
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>>
>> Are you going to certify them too?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regardless, I have no idea how to price this, but I always want my drops
>> certified…
>>
>>
>>
>> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:14 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Side Job Pricing
>>
>>
>>
>> So I have this side job that's being offer to me by an electrician I know.
>> He is running some cabling CAT5 and CAT6. He wants me to terminate it all
>> (patch panels and wall jacks). I assume he wants me to tone out and label
>> the wall jacks. There is about 300 runs to terminate and he wants to know
>> how much I would charge for each one. Anyone know what the going rate is for
>> this? I know how much to charge for a full drop but not for part of it.
>> Maybe I should just estimate how many I can do an hour and figure out how
>> much I want to make an hour. It's a little tricky since I never timed how
>> many I can do in an hour before.
>>
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Powershell question - listing groups a user belongs to, and the notes/description of the group

[Michael Leone]

I have this request to list all the groups a specific set of users
belong to. Since we use groups to control ACLs, this can (effectively)
be a listing of all the shared folders the user has access to (we list
the location of the shared folder in the notes of the group).  I'm
still new to PS, and could use a bit of a pointer as to how to get to
the description. To get the list of groups, I am planning on:

import-module ActiveDirectory
cd AD:

and then loop through a text file of SAMAccountNames:

Get-ADUser -Identity LeoneM -Properties memberof | select
-ExpandProperty memberof | get-adgroup | select name

This would give me the names of the groups (thank you, Google ...),
but how do I get to the descriptions of the groups that are returned?
I don't seem to see the notes property in the adgroup. How can I list
that attribute of the returned group?

If someone has a better idea, I'm all ears. :-)

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Re: Side Job Pricing

[Mike Sullivan]

You can rent the tester, just find out how much it will cost and add that
into your price. http://www.atecorp.com/Manufacturers/Fluke.asp

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:44 AM, James Kerr  wrote:

> I don't have the cash to buy the tester to certify. I just have the basic
> everything in the right place and connected tester.
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
>>  Are you going to certify them too?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Regardless, I have no idea how to price this, but I always want my drops
>> certified…
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:14 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Side Job Pricing
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> So I have this side job that's being offer to me by an electrician I
>> know. He is running some cabling CAT5 and CAT6. He wants me to terminate it
>> all (patch panels and wall jacks). I assume he wants me to tone out and
>> label the wall jacks. There is about 300 runs to terminate and he wants to
>> know how much I would charge for each one. Anyone know what the going rate
>> is for this? I know how much to charge for a full drop but not for part of
>> it. Maybe I should just estimate how many I can do an hour and figure out
>> how much I want to make an hour. It's a little tricky since I never timed
>> how many I can do in an hour before. 
>>
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-- 
Thank you,
Mike Sullivan

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RE: System/file monitoring

[Christopher Bodnar]

It isn't cheap. Usually not the best choice for a smaller company. As ASB 
mentioned there is Tripwire as well. I use both products and there is some 
overlap with functionality. I consider Tripwire more of a compliance tool, 
as where Varonis is more of an auditing tool. I think DataAdvantage would 
better fit your needs in this case. 

YMMV

Chris







From:   "Ray" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   09/25/2012 02:07 PM
Subject:RE: System/file monitoring



I couldn’t even find a price.  The demo says “in a couple hours our 
engineers will help get you up and running”. 
 
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: System/file monitoring
 
Varonis is a strong player here, but the price will probably be higher. 
OTOH, I did suggest TripWire which is not known for low prices in the 
enterprise space. :)

ASB
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Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Christopher Bodnar <
christopher_bod...@glic.com> wrote:
Have you looked at this? 

http://www.varonis.com/products/datadvantage/windows/index.html 




Chris 






From:"Ray"  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date:09/24/2012 05:45 PM 
Subject:RE: System/file monitoring 



Auditing has been enabled. The MS logfiles are just too "chatty". But
filesystemwatcher looks interesting. Thanks. 
-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [
mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: System/file monitoring

I have to be honest, I wouldn't pay for such a thing.
A quick look has me guessing windows can provide all this info natively.
Enabling auditing for example and use a query to mine the relevant info. 
If
you needed to act on a file system event, there is the file system watcher
class which you can leverage either yourself or through some opensource
implementations that allow you to run the watcher as a service.

Is what your after just logging for accountability?

jlc

From: Ray [rz...@qwest.net]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 2:09 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: System/file monitoring

I tried a trial version of this: 
http://www.poweradmin.com/file-sight/ =

which seems to do what I need.  I have a lot of users I can't necessarily
trust, not to mention just being careless. Anyway, what this does is just
keep an eye on the folders and files to see who's creating, deleting or
moving them.

Just curious if anyone's using something "better".

TIA
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RE: Side Job Pricing

[Michael B. Smith]

Then just don't do it.

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Side Job Pricing

I don't have the cash to buy the tester to certify. I just have the basic 
everything in the right place and connected tester.
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
Are you going to certify them too?

Regardless, I have no idea how to price this, but I always want my drops 
certified...

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Side Job Pricing

So I have this side job that's being offer to me by an electrician I know. He 
is running some cabling CAT5 and CAT6. He wants me to terminate it all (patch 
panels and wall jacks). I assume he wants me to tone out and label the wall 
jacks. There is about 300 runs to terminate and he wants to know how much I 
would charge for each one. Anyone know what the going rate is for this? I know 
how much to charge for a full drop but not for part of it. Maybe I should just 
estimate how many I can do an hour and figure out how much I want to make an 
hour. It's a little tricky since I never timed how many I can do in an hour 
before.

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RE: Side Job Pricing

[David Lum]

+1

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Side Job Pricing

I'd be very cautious of this scenario.
You're going to have 2 different parties involved (1 running the cable, 1 
terminating)
With 300 drops... when (not if) there is a problem later, there is the 
potential for a lot of finger-pointing.
Especially if the runs are not certified and signed off on at the time of 
completion.
Just my $.02 having been through this before.



From: James Kerr 
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Side Job Pricing

I don't have the cash to buy the tester to certify. I just have the basic 
everything in the right place and connected tester.
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
Are you going to certify them too?

Regardless, I have no idea how to price this, but I always want my drops 
certified...

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Side Job Pricing

So I have this side job that's being offer to me by an electrician I know. He 
is running some cabling CAT5 and CAT6. He wants me to terminate it all (patch 
panels and wall jacks). I assume he wants me to tone out and label the wall 
jacks. There is about 300 runs to terminate and he wants to know how much I 
would charge for each one. Anyone know what the going rate is for this? I know 
how much to charge for a full drop but not for part of it. Maybe I should just 
estimate how many I can do an hour and figure out how much I want to make an 
hour. It's a little tricky since I never timed how many I can do in an hour 
before.

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RE: Side Job Pricing

[David Mazzaccaro]

I'd be very cautious of this scenario.

You're going to have 2 different parties involved (1 running the cable,
1 terminating)

With 300 drops... when (not if) there is a problem later, there is the
potential for a lot of finger-pointing.  

Especially if the runs are not certified and signed off on at the time
of completion.

Just my $.02 having been through this before.

 

 

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Side Job Pricing

 

I don't have the cash to buy the tester to certify. I just have the
basic everything in the right place and connected tester.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:

Are you going to certify them too?

 

Regardless, I have no idea how to price this, but I always want my drops
certified...

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Side Job Pricing

 

So I have this side job that's being offer to me by an electrician I
know. He is running some cabling CAT5 and CAT6. He wants me to terminate
it all (patch panels and wall jacks). I assume he wants me to tone out
and label the wall jacks. There is about 300 runs to terminate and he
wants to know how much I would charge for each one. Anyone know what the
going rate is for this? I know how much to charge for a full drop but
not for part of it. Maybe I should just estimate how many I can do an
hour and figure out how much I want to make an hour. It's a little
tricky since I never timed how many I can do in an hour before. 

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