Re: Vmware Design for XenApp 6.5 w/PVS

[kz20fl]

That one was right under the belt :-)


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-Original Message-
From: Webster 
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:26:37 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Vmware Design for XenApp 
6.5 w/PVS

Are you still looking in the mirror?

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Vmware Design for XenApp 6.5 w/PVS

No probs, feel free to hit me up for more info, I am currently involved in the 
worlds most boring project
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From: Sean Martin mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com>>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:57:50 -0900
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: Vmware Design for XenApp 6.5 w/PVS

Sorry for the delayed response. Thanks again James, this is fantastic 
information. I'm doing all I can to disseminate this amongst my team. I'm sure 
I'll have more follow ups as we start on the low level design and 
implementation of each technology.

- Sean
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:49 AM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
If you're using the Personalization Server feature (and it sounds like you 
are), you need to be aware that if you lose this area of the environment, not 
only do you get no customization of user profile, session or any of their 
applications, you take the risk of overwriting the Personalization data with 
default data and causing all sorts of problems for your user base.

With this in mind, you'll want heavy redundancy on both the SQL backend and in 
the web services that facilitate communication with the SQL backend. AppSense 
supports clustering, replication, mirroring and all the other usual SQL 
redundancy features. You will also probably want to configure some failover in 
the web services that provide the Management Server site and the 
Personalization Server site.

There are some non-default options within Personalization itself I'd recommend 
- Offline Resiliency ensures that in the event of a database outage, the client 
caches Personalization data and resyncs once the database is available. I'd 
also recommend enabling either the web portal and/or the self-service profile 
reset features, which again will dictate the sizing of your database depending 
on how many archives you keep. See this article for a discussion of AppSense 
database sizing - 
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/appsense-management-server-and_13.html

There are also a few gotchas around AppSense and PVS I'd want to bear in mind - 
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/using-appsense-with-citrix-provisioning.html
 and some AV considerations - 
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/antivirus-exclusions-for-appsense.html

I'd also recommend you seriously consider using the Performance Manager feature 
of AppSense. It can eke out up to 40% higher user density on XenApp platforms - 
a serious ROI if ever there was one.

On the XenApp side, I think Web has more than adequately covered what you need. 
I'll back him up on the fact that StoreFront (I dare speak the name) is not 
really fit for purpose yet.

If you need any more advice on the AppSense side of things feel free to shoot 
me an email offline, although at your current stage I don't think you need do 
much other than scope for the heavy redundancy in the SQL side of things.

Cheers,



JR

On 28 February 2013 17:29, Sean Martin 
mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We haven't gone through the low-level design process for each of the 
deliverables yet, so I am not sure if we're using that feature. Is that a part 
of the Environment Manager? Our implementation of AppSense is purely for a 
profile management solution because of the garbage that roaming profiles makes 
us deal with in our current environment.

- Sean

On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:03 AM, 
kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
Are you using the AppSense Personalization Server feature? That's going to have 
a big influence on your requirements if you are.
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RE: Vmware Design for XenApp 6.5 w/PVS

[Webster]

Are you still looking in the mirror?

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Vmware Design for XenApp 6.5 w/PVS

No probs, feel free to hit me up for more info, I am currently involved in the 
worlds most boring project
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From: Sean Martin mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com>>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:57:50 -0900
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: Vmware Design for XenApp 6.5 w/PVS

Sorry for the delayed response. Thanks again James, this is fantastic 
information. I'm doing all I can to disseminate this amongst my team. I'm sure 
I'll have more follow ups as we start on the low level design and 
implementation of each technology.

- Sean
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:49 AM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
If you're using the Personalization Server feature (and it sounds like you 
are), you need to be aware that if you lose this area of the environment, not 
only do you get no customization of user profile, session or any of their 
applications, you take the risk of overwriting the Personalization data with 
default data and causing all sorts of problems for your user base.

With this in mind, you'll want heavy redundancy on both the SQL backend and in 
the web services that facilitate communication with the SQL backend. AppSense 
supports clustering, replication, mirroring and all the other usual SQL 
redundancy features. You will also probably want to configure some failover in 
the web services that provide the Management Server site and the 
Personalization Server site.

There are some non-default options within Personalization itself I'd recommend 
- Offline Resiliency ensures that in the event of a database outage, the client 
caches Personalization data and resyncs once the database is available. I'd 
also recommend enabling either the web portal and/or the self-service profile 
reset features, which again will dictate the sizing of your database depending 
on how many archives you keep. See this article for a discussion of AppSense 
database sizing - 
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/appsense-management-server-and_13.html

There are also a few gotchas around AppSense and PVS I'd want to bear in mind - 
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/using-appsense-with-citrix-provisioning.html
 and some AV considerations - 
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/antivirus-exclusions-for-appsense.html

I'd also recommend you seriously consider using the Performance Manager feature 
of AppSense. It can eke out up to 40% higher user density on XenApp platforms - 
a serious ROI if ever there was one.

On the XenApp side, I think Web has more than adequately covered what you need. 
I'll back him up on the fact that StoreFront (I dare speak the name) is not 
really fit for purpose yet.

If you need any more advice on the AppSense side of things feel free to shoot 
me an email offline, although at your current stage I don't think you need do 
much other than scope for the heavy redundancy in the SQL side of things.

Cheers,



JR

On 28 February 2013 17:29, Sean Martin 
mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We haven't gone through the low-level design process for each of the 
deliverables yet, so I am not sure if we're using that feature. Is that a part 
of the Environment Manager? Our implementation of AppSense is purely for a 
profile management solution because of the garbage that roaming profiles makes 
us deal with in our current environment.

- Sean

On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:03 AM, 
kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
Are you using the AppSense Personalization Server feature? That's going to have 
a big influence on your requirements if you are.
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Re: Vmware Design for XenApp 6.5 w/PVS

[kz20fl]

No probs, feel free to hit me up for more info, I am currently involved in the 
worlds most boring project


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-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin 
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:57:50 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: Vmware Design for XenApp 
6.5 w/PVS

Sorry for the delayed response. Thanks again James, this is fantastic
information. I'm doing all I can to disseminate this amongst my team. I'm
sure I'll have more follow ups as we start on the low level design and
implementation of each technology.

- Sean

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:49 AM, James Rankin wrote:

> If you're using the Personalization Server feature (and it sounds like you
> are), you need to be aware that if you lose this area of the environment,
> not only do you get no customization of user profile, session or any of
> their applications, you take the risk of overwriting the Personalization
> data with default data and causing all sorts of problems for your user base.
>
> With this in mind, you'll want heavy redundancy on both the SQL backend
> and in the web services that facilitate communication with the SQL backend.
> AppSense supports clustering, replication, mirroring and all the other
> usual SQL redundancy features. You will also probably want to configure
> some failover in the web services that provide the Management Server site
> and the Personalization Server site.
>
> There are some non-default options within Personalization itself I'd
> recommend - Offline Resiliency ensures that in the event of a database
> outage, the client caches Personalization data and resyncs once the
> database is available. I'd also recommend enabling either the web portal
> and/or the self-service profile reset features, which again will dictate
> the sizing of your database depending on how many archives you keep. See
> this article for a discussion of AppSense database sizing -
> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/appsense-management-server-and_13.html
>
> There are also a few gotchas around AppSense and PVS I'd want to bear in
> mind -
> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/using-appsense-with-citrix-provisioning.htmland
>  some AV considerations -
> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/antivirus-exclusions-for-appsense.html
>
> I'd also recommend you seriously consider using the Performance Manager
> feature of AppSense. It can eke out up to 40% higher user density on XenApp
> platforms - a serious ROI if ever there was one.
>
> On the XenApp side, I think Web has more than adequately covered what you
> need. I'll back him up on the fact that StoreFront (I dare speak the name)
> is not really fit for purpose yet.
>
> If you need any more advice on the AppSense side of things feel free to
> shoot me an email offline, although at your current stage I don't think you
> need do much other than scope for the heavy redundancy in the SQL side of
> things.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> JR
>
>
>  On 28 February 2013 17:29, Sean Martin  wrote:
>
>>  We haven't gone through the low-level design process for each of the
>> deliverables yet, so I am not sure if we're using that feature. Is that a
>> part of the Environment Manager? Our implementation of AppSense is purely
>> for a profile management solution because of the garbage that roaming
>> profiles makes us deal with in our current environment.
>>
>> - Sean
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:03 AM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>>   Are you using the AppSense Personalization Server feature? That's
>> going to have a big influence on your requirements if you are.
>>
>> Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email
>> RELIABLY
>> --
>> *From: *Sean Martin 
>> *Date: *Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:58:09 -0900
>>  *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <
>> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>>   *Subject: *Vmware Design for XenApp 6.5 w/PVS
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Let me start first by apologize for the length of this message. In my
>> pursuit of providing all of the relevant information I fully expect for
>> this to be a bit long winded.
>>
>> We're in the final planning stages of a migration from a purely physical
>> XenApp 5 on Windows 2003 environment to a virtualized XenApp 6.5 with
>> Provisioning Services environment on ESXi 5.0. I was hoping I could toss
>> out our initial design and gather some feedback.
>>
>> Our current environment consists of a single farm, two sites, and just
>> under 200 physical servers. That includes the SQL server, data collectors,
>> existing Web Interface servers, licensing server and all of the
>> presentation servers. We currently support 12 application silos. The
>> purpose of each silo varies from application compatibility issues, business
>> unit requirements, performance requirements, etc. At our peak, we support
>> approximately 1400 concurrent sessions. This

Re: Vmware Design for XenApp 6.5 w/PVS

[Sean Martin]

Sorry for the delayed response. Thanks again James, this is fantastic
information. I'm doing all I can to disseminate this amongst my team. I'm
sure I'll have more follow ups as we start on the low level design and
implementation of each technology.

- Sean

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:49 AM, James Rankin wrote:

> If you're using the Personalization Server feature (and it sounds like you
> are), you need to be aware that if you lose this area of the environment,
> not only do you get no customization of user profile, session or any of
> their applications, you take the risk of overwriting the Personalization
> data with default data and causing all sorts of problems for your user base.
>
> With this in mind, you'll want heavy redundancy on both the SQL backend
> and in the web services that facilitate communication with the SQL backend.
> AppSense supports clustering, replication, mirroring and all the other
> usual SQL redundancy features. You will also probably want to configure
> some failover in the web services that provide the Management Server site
> and the Personalization Server site.
>
> There are some non-default options within Personalization itself I'd
> recommend - Offline Resiliency ensures that in the event of a database
> outage, the client caches Personalization data and resyncs once the
> database is available. I'd also recommend enabling either the web portal
> and/or the self-service profile reset features, which again will dictate
> the sizing of your database depending on how many archives you keep. See
> this article for a discussion of AppSense database sizing -
> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/appsense-management-server-and_13.html
>
> There are also a few gotchas around AppSense and PVS I'd want to bear in
> mind -
> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/using-appsense-with-citrix-provisioning.htmland
>  some AV considerations -
> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/antivirus-exclusions-for-appsense.html
>
> I'd also recommend you seriously consider using the Performance Manager
> feature of AppSense. It can eke out up to 40% higher user density on XenApp
> platforms - a serious ROI if ever there was one.
>
> On the XenApp side, I think Web has more than adequately covered what you
> need. I'll back him up on the fact that StoreFront (I dare speak the name)
> is not really fit for purpose yet.
>
> If you need any more advice on the AppSense side of things feel free to
> shoot me an email offline, although at your current stage I don't think you
> need do much other than scope for the heavy redundancy in the SQL side of
> things.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> JR
>
>
>  On 28 February 2013 17:29, Sean Martin  wrote:
>
>>  We haven't gone through the low-level design process for each of the
>> deliverables yet, so I am not sure if we're using that feature. Is that a
>> part of the Environment Manager? Our implementation of AppSense is purely
>> for a profile management solution because of the garbage that roaming
>> profiles makes us deal with in our current environment.
>>
>> - Sean
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:03 AM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>>   Are you using the AppSense Personalization Server feature? That's
>> going to have a big influence on your requirements if you are.
>>
>> Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email
>> RELIABLY
>> --
>> *From: *Sean Martin 
>> *Date: *Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:58:09 -0900
>>  *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <
>> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>>   *Subject: *Vmware Design for XenApp 6.5 w/PVS
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Let me start first by apologize for the length of this message. In my
>> pursuit of providing all of the relevant information I fully expect for
>> this to be a bit long winded.
>>
>> We're in the final planning stages of a migration from a purely physical
>> XenApp 5 on Windows 2003 environment to a virtualized XenApp 6.5 with
>> Provisioning Services environment on ESXi 5.0. I was hoping I could toss
>> out our initial design and gather some feedback.
>>
>> Our current environment consists of a single farm, two sites, and just
>> under 200 physical servers. That includes the SQL server, data collectors,
>> existing Web Interface servers, licensing server and all of the
>> presentation servers. We currently support 12 application silos. The
>> purpose of each silo varies from application compatibility issues, business
>> unit requirements, performance requirements, etc. At our peak, we support
>> approximately 1400 concurrent sessions. This is the number we've used to
>> design our future environment.
>>
>> The new environment will consist of a dedicated vSphere Cluster for the
>> XenApp servers (using provisioning services). Other supporting services
>> (SQL Server, zone data collectors, licensing server, etc.) will be
>> supported in a general vSphere cluster. Web Interface will be migrated to
>> NetScaler Ap

Re: Handy Java website.

[Robert Cato]

My favorite thing about this site is that it uses three digit counter. I
guess there are optimists everywhere.

Robert


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

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RE: RD Gateway creds

[Kennedy, Jim]

The plot thickens.

For initial testing I had RDG and RDS on the same box. Production will be a 
different vm RDS for different departments.  I just spun up the first of those 
vm's, one for my department. So now RDG and RDS are on two separate boxes...but 
SSO now works.

I mark this one as solved!


From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RD Gateway creds

SSO should work, but they will still have to enter their domain credentials 
somewhere if they are logging in from a non-domain-joined computer. I forget 
the exact combination I have now, but from my home PC I only need to enter my 
credentials once to get past the RDS server and access resources.

In my experience at %dayjob%, SSO is confused with "don't ever need to enter 
credentials".

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 6:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RD Gateway creds

Wooo, I bet it is because the public domain of the RD Gateway and the private 
domain of the Remote Desktop don't match.

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RD Gateway creds

Trying to set up a simple prepackaged RDP file for some users to hit our Remote 
Desktop Gateway.

On the setup page for the RD Gateway is an option to 'Use my RD Gateway 
credentials for the remote computer'. Logic tells me that would create a single 
sign on for the users, present creds for the Gateway and end up on the Remote 
Desktop logged in.

But that isn't happening. It stops at the logon screen for the remote desktop 
server.

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RE: RD Gateway creds

[David Lum]

SSO should work, but they will still have to enter their domain credentials 
somewhere if they are logging in from a non-domain-joined computer. I forget 
the exact combination I have now, but from my home PC I only need to enter my 
credentials once to get past the RDS server and access resources.

In my experience at %dayjob%, SSO is confused with "don't ever need to enter 
credentials".

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 6:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RD Gateway creds

Wooo, I bet it is because the public domain of the RD Gateway and the private 
domain of the Remote Desktop don't match.

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RD Gateway creds

Trying to set up a simple prepackaged RDP file for some users to hit our Remote 
Desktop Gateway.

On the setup page for the RD Gateway is an option to 'Use my RD Gateway 
credentials for the remote computer'. Logic tells me that would create a single 
sign on for the users, present creds for the Gateway and end up on the Remote 
Desktop logged in.

But that isn't happening. It stops at the logon screen for the remote desktop 
server.

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RE: RD Gateway creds

[Kennedy, Jim]

Wooo, I bet it is because the public domain of the RD Gateway and the private 
domain of the Remote Desktop don't match.

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RD Gateway creds

Trying to set up a simple prepackaged RDP file for some users to hit our Remote 
Desktop Gateway.

On the setup page for the RD Gateway is an option to 'Use my RD Gateway 
credentials for the remote computer'. Logic tells me that would create a single 
sign on for the users, present creds for the Gateway and end up on the Remote 
Desktop logged in.

But that isn't happening. It stops at the logon screen for the remote desktop 
server.

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RE: MS tools and resource communications - was: IIS reporting/monitoring free tool

[itli...@imcu.com]

Awesome responses guys.  I had a funeral to attend to so this morning
was my first chance to read through this stuff.  Will check some of the
links and see what I can get going.

I really appreciate you all and if credit is due, I am giving it ahead
of time because I will forget later.

Thanks again.

David

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Posted At: Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:13 PM
Posted To: itli...@imcu.com
Conversation: MS tools and resource communications - was: IIS
reporting/monitoring free tool
Subject: Re: MS tools and resource communications - was: IIS
reporting/monitoring free tool

 

Don't make me pull out my  tags!

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Ken Schaefer 
wrote:

Not sure if you're j/king re Hanselman. He definitely works for MS -
has a fairly senior role in the Web Tools and Platform team

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 1 March 2013 10:48 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: MS tools and resource communications - was: IIS
reporting/monitoring free tool

 

I've known about it for years and have mentioned it a time or two on
this list.  :)

I worked with some of the MS folks on some stuff they sponsored for in
the Open Source community and they just cannot get credit for the stuff
they do without angry people and rioters showing up to burn the place
down.

 

Of course for a while I heavily supported a web developer community
(Drupal) so was aware of a lot of web focused tools.  It was also
mentioned in various podcasts and videos are part of an overall tool set
from MS.  It was more mentioned when the Firebug tool came out years
ago.  However when that happened all the Firebug advocates could say was
'copy' or well but I don't use IE or something else and promptly dismiss
it.

 

Some random links regarding it just cause:   :)

 

TechNet

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/gg589507(v=vs.85).aspx

Scott Hanselman - I think he has something to do with MS, not sure...
small obscure role maybe.  I think he posts random stuff.

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheInternetIsNotABlackBoxLookInside.aspx

 

On the IE8 announcement page there is a mention of it. (Not digging up
IE9 :)

http://www.microsoft.com/web/platform/tools-ie.aspx?templang=fr-ch

 

-

 

MS just can't get buzz on some things when every time they try the
Internets jump on and devolve it into a giant bonfire of a comment fest.
It doesn't help that they are so large and have so many different voices
and outlets. 

 

They have been doing much better in the last few years trying to build
communities around interests and specialties and MVPs but they are so
large it's challenging and often from our perspective there are missteps
and so much over all noise that really cool or neat things get lost or
missed.

 

So, in the interests of communications, if you weren't aware here are
some additional sources of information.  :)

 

TechNet wiki is a nice place depending on the technology you support
lots of additional content there and the ability to add to it yourself
and edit.  Channel9 has tons of awesome resources and shows such as
Defrag Tools, Various Jump Start series, TechEd videos, BUILD conference
videos.

 

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/ - TechNet Wiki

http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools Each Defrag Tools show
focuses on a specific tool

http://channel9.msdn.com/coding4fun - tons of shows and JumpStart series
and random projects

http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build

http://channel9.msdn.com/Browse/Series

http://channel9.msdn.com/Browse/Shows

http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd

http://channel9.msdn.com/Browse/Events?sort=recent

 

 

I have a bunch of links to 'training type' video's, test lab guides,
virtual labs and resources linked here as well :
http://www.blkmtn.org/Microsoft_Private_Cloud_Training-Videos


Steven Peck

http://www.blkmtn.org


 

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:41 PM,  wrote:

I'm quite impressed with that too. Shows how good MS are at
publicizing good features they develop (i.e. not at all)

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From: "Maglinger, Paul" mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com> > 

Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:36:10 +

To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >

Subject: RE: IIS reporting/monitoring free tool

 

Damn.  You had to show me that.  Now I can't bad mouth IE quite
as much as I used to.

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com
 ] 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IIS reporting/monitoring free tool

 

For basic testing from a client machine you can also use F12 in
IE.  

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