RE: Workstation Naming Standards
Wow, never thought of that. Yeah, that seems pretty obvious. ;) Upside, we could lock the ports down where a certain workstation only worked at a certain port, so midnight moves stopped. Also, finding a workstation name meant we had it's location also. Downside, more admin time, but it proved itself often. Just so you'll know, the order that I listed them is the order of the ways that I have done it. Therefore the PC001 is the way that we do it currently because now CA tracks it for us. You look on the spreadsheet and see that PC1046 is in my office and you come beat me. I personally think that if you have a small environment and time for admin, you are a fool to not put something that locates a PC for you in the name (extension, room number, something). If you have a large environment or too little headcount, you are a fool for trying. :) Get a tool and just name them generically. To try and say that one way is always right is pretty silly. That is why I listed the 3 ways that I have done it. Just as an FYI though, the first way (with the room number) worked for me when I managed the group that supported 1,400+ users. Of course I has almost 20 headcount also. :) JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/27/01 07:22PM And a machine gets moved to another room and you have to rename it! Greg -Original Message- From: Jay Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Workstation Naming Standards I have been through 3 different changes so far. The first one was something like W0F01492. The W was for Workstation (servers got A-F), multiple workstations got G,H, etc. 0F0 was a location code and all of our sites had one (or more).1 was the floor. 492 was the room. Second place was MTMEMA. MT was the OS (MT-NT, M5-95, and so on). MEM is the city (Memphis). is the extension. A is the number of the workstation (A-1, B-2, and so on). Third place just did PC001, PC002, etc. and let CA track it for them. Guess it depends. :) JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/27/01 01:18PM Hi, I don't use user names in the computer name as you would need to change it with every hire/fire/quit. I won't go over my naming convention for this company on the net for obvious reasons, however in previous locales I used a combination of the street name and address of the various offices, DT, LT, MS, or DC (to denote the machine type - laptop, desktop, member server, domain controller) along with a two or three digit computer number. For example, a desktop at a building located a 17 Austin Friars London, I would call it 17AFDT001, and for a laptop at 212 Houndsditch in London, I would use 212HDLT001. In both cases I would then just increment the 001 to 002 and so forth. In the AD, I would then put the machines and user accounts in org units called Austin Friars, or Houndsditch. If you use multiple sites or domains, then the last bit becomes less relevant. Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I Gameday International N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537 C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Osama S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 27, 2001 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Workstation Naming Standards hi, we will be deploying Win2K from scratch on the user's machines (around 700) replacing NT 4. SO I was reviewing our machine naming convention. Our Offices are located in two cities, one single domain. So far we would use something like CityName-Department-User Real Name (where city name and department are abbrevations) to name workstations. Usually the NT Names are the users Company ID, which is unique. I was wondering how you guys/girls are naming your workstations and users. regards Uso Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: Workstation Naming Standards
I have been through 3 different changes so far. The first one was something like W0F01492. The W was for Workstation (servers got A-F), multiple workstations got G,H, etc. 0F0 was a location code and all of our sites had one (or more).1 was the floor. 492 was the room. Second place was MTMEMA. MT was the OS (MT-NT, M5-95, and so on). MEM is the city (Memphis). is the extension. A is the number of the workstation (A-1, B-2, and so on). Third place just did PC001, PC002, etc. and let CA track it for them. Guess it depends. :) JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/27/01 01:18PM Hi, I don't use user names in the computer name as you would need to change it with every hire/fire/quit. I won't go over my naming convention for this company on the net for obvious reasons, however in previous locales I used a combination of the street name and address of the various offices, DT, LT, MS, or DC (to denote the machine type - laptop, desktop, member server, domain controller) along with a two or three digit computer number. For example, a desktop at a building located a 17 Austin Friars London, I would call it 17AFDT001, and for a laptop at 212 Houndsditch in London, I would use 212HDLT001. In both cases I would then just increment the 001 to 002 and so forth. In the AD, I would then put the machines and user accounts in org units called Austin Friars, or Houndsditch. If you use multiple sites or domains, then the last bit becomes less relevant. Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I Gameday International N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537 C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Osama S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 27, 2001 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Workstation Naming Standards hi, we will be deploying Win2K from scratch on the user's machines (around 700) replacing NT 4. SO I was reviewing our machine naming convention. Our Offices are located in two cities, one single domain. So far we would use something like CityName-Department-User Real Name (where city name and department are abbrevations) to name workstations. Usually the NT Names are the users Company ID, which is unique. I was wondering how you guys/girls are naming your workstations and users. regards Uso Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: ERD Scripts
Maybe in the mail for the last couple of days. I assume you checked the archive right? JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/26/01 03:30PM Where might one find this script? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: ERD Scripts Hey Guys, Steve Clark's (the genius - if I'm ever in the same city as him, I'll buy him a beer) script for putting computers ERD's onto a different server has made me wonder if anyone has some idea of how to do this for Win2K? What I'm talking about is a script that automatically runs an rdisk (which you can't do in Win2K) and then copies the result from the REPAIR directory to a different server... Any ideas? Hmmm? Cheers G. Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: Nimda - Thought we were protected
The only thing that I would add is that rather than attaching to the net un-patched and downloading it, you should burn as much as possible to CD and load it from there before attaching to the net the first time. For instance the SP and all current hotfixes can be downloaded, batched and burned. This keeps you from getting infected that first time that you connect. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/01 07:32PM NT System Admin List: We are doing the following with a great deal of success: Simple Option - if not too badly infected: 1. Have the system on the net only long enough to get the latest virus update. 2. Run Norton Anti-Virus with the latest virus update. 3. Reboot with your Win2k or WinNT or Win98 (etc) CD and run it in Repair mode. 4. Go back on the Internet - avoid the local net if you can. 5. Get IE 5.5 SP2 right away. 6. Reapply the latest Service Packs to the OS and Office and IIS - if appropriate. 7. Make sure NAV is running daily and getting updates daily or more frequently. 8. Set NAV to clean all your email and downloads. 9. Clean all other machines before plugging (or allowing) it back onto the local net. 10. Make sure Windows Critical Update Notification is installed - and pay attention to it. 11. Reconnect only after all the other machines that are allowed on the local net are clean. If BADLY infected: 1. Load the OS (Win2k or WinNT or Win98 (etc)) on a partition that does NOT have a boot loader on it. 2. OR plug in a new drive (temporarily) in the IDE 0 position and change the BIOS to reflect the new drive 3. Load a new copy of the OS on this clean partition/drive. 4. Go back on the Internet - avoid the local net if you can. 5. Get IE 5.5 SP2 immediately - Don't go anywhere else but http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com 6. Reapply the latest Service Packs to the OS. 7. Install NAV 8. Run Norton Anti-Virus with the latest virus update on all drives. 9. Shut it down and boot from the original partition. (If you added a drive, undo it and reset BIOS) 10. Go back on the Internet - avoid the local net if you can. 11. Get IE 5.5 SP2 12. Reapply the latest Service Packs to the OS. 13. Install NAV 14. Run Norton Anti-Virus with the latest virus update on all drives - again. 15. Reapply the latest Service Packs to IIS and Office. 16. Make sure NAV is running daily and getting updates daily or more frequently. 17. Set NAV to clean all your email and downloads. 18. Make sure Windows Critical Update Notification is installed - and pay attention to it. 19. Reconnect only after all the other machines that are allowed on the local net are clean. Good Luck! Bud James Rapid Response Team Preparing You for Tomorrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] (858) 693-6929 (voice) (858) 693-6916 (fax) (310) 283-0806 (cell) Please visit us online @ http://www.911RRT.com -Original Message- From: Marc Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Nimda - Thought we were protected About every fifteen minutes or so, the .EML files are all back again. I've heard about this- in fact, just this afternoon. In this case, I recommended to my customer to quarantine the machine (read: remove the network cable!) and run the NIMDA scanner/fix from the machine locally (you won't have any other choice) and re-examine the machine when finished. That solved their problem, but it did take time to do. Sorry if my fix seems too pedestrian -Marc Miller Sr. Programmer/Analyst Virtual Systems 207 Kirkland Ave., Kirkland, WA 98033 (425) 828-9495 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english
RE: Installing IIS Patches
Please be aware that there are other things that need to be done. There are several registry and permission changes, etc. that MS doesn't put in their roll-ups. Be sure that you do those also. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/25/01 07:30AM Try this... http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-044.asp http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-044.asp. Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Greenhalgh, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 September 2001 15:19 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Installing IIS Patches Dear All, Is there an easy way to install all the IIS patches in one step? I don't restart the server between each patch but it's a real pain installing several patches at once. There must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, Tim Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mod e=0lang=english Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english
Re: IIS4 not responding after security update.
I will let others answer as to what might have gone wrong, but always recommend downloading the fixes and the running them rather than running them from the site. All it takes is a net hiccup and a lockup and all of the sudden, no IIS. You run a much smaller chance of this with the download and then execute path. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/01 07:54PM Win 98 SAFE MODEWe have an old IIS4 box that we still have ppl hosted on, because that is what they perfer. We went to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and it said we were missing a critical update. We went ahead and told it to upate the box, but after the update completed, I noticed a DOS window that would not close. It stayed up for at least 20 minutes. I finally closed the dialog and the machine wanted to reboot. I told it yes, but then the machine went blank (green screen), but didn't reboot. I then had to hard boot it.. Now it seems IIS4 is not responding to the point I can't even go into MMC. Websites are down and we can't seem to get it up and running again. Everything except the webserver is working. Any clues to what was hung up and how we can fix this problem? If we reinstall IIS4, we would have to reinstall the SP's and the security patches.. Will this happen again, or was that just a fluke? http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english
Re: OT : Code name for Win98
I think 95 was Chicago and 98 was Memphis. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/25/01 07:40AM Memphis? Or was that for 95? *** Jeff Johnson MCSE+I, MCSE 2k Network Engineer Triple S Plastics *** David N. Precht To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] dnpexchlist@y cc: ahoo.comSubject: OT : Code name for Win98 09/24/2001 03:41 PM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues Guys and Gals- Do you guys remember the code name for Win98 ? Regards Dave _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english
Re: MS Security Rollup
I don't know what I would do if someone actually checked the archives before posting a question like this. Yes I do, I would never see it because it would have been answered already. Yep, there were a couple of issues with this. The biggest one, that I remember, only came into play if you were using Compaq hardware. They came up with a patch though. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/25/01 07:28AM Hello all, Has anyone encountered any problems using the post MS SP6a Security Rollup Package? Damon Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english
RE: Get Me Off the List, Please
Or you can click the link at the bottom of the page since Stu said HOURS ago that the problem was resolved. Rather than whining, would you like to list any of the other lists? JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/25/01 09:51AM Looks like those of us who want off the list will have to set up an auto-delete rule. This list is so full of noise, its not worth it. There are much more professional, and useful, lists out there. -Original Message- From: Darril Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Me too. It was advertised as a no noise list. Not so. In just a couple of hours, I have over 100 emails. I tried to get off, but the scripts on the web page don't allow it. Darril R. Gibson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Director of Continuing Education MCT, MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD America's Computer Training Source 340-, Cell 328-9299 -Original Message- From: Lucia, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Just for your info the script is not working!!! I too would like off this list Steve J. Lucia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sr. Network Specialist Client Server Group FFIOC 707-436-2840 co# 227-2840 pager 707-427-9176 -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Get yourself off the list. The link is at the bottom of the email. -Original Message- From: Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Get Me Off the List, Please [EMAIL PROTECTED] please remove the address above from the list server thank you...in over my head here http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english
Re: MS Security Rollup
Compaq has a fix. This si a snippet from the batch file that I run. It does all the NT, IIS, registry cleanups and the Compaq fix. Since using this, I have had no more blue screens. cls ECHO This is Compaq's recommended fix for the BSoD that ECHO occurs after MS's post-SP6a roll-up. If a BSoD ECHO still happens, I recommend copying the SCSIPORT.SYS ECHO from WINNT\$$NtUnistallQ299444$$\ to ECHO WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS. cd compaq cd array cpqsetup.exe cd.. cd.. cd.. ECHO Compaq's recommended changes have now been made pause JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/25/01 08:53AM Has anyone encountered any problems using the post MS SP6a Security Rollup Package? The Security Rollup can have conflicts with certain array controllers (e.g. cpqarray.sys). Result: BSOD check Q299444 Regards Silvia Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english
Re: New virus -- real or hoax?
Please check anti-virus sites before posting. Yes this is true. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/25/01 12:02PM I got the following note from a friend. Haven't seen any thing to confirm or deny authenticity. Can anyone shed light on this? Thanks, Steve -Attached note-- There is a new virus circulating that has a subject line containing a message about peace. It asks you to vote on whether the United States should retaliate for the World Trade Center attacks. It asks you to click on an attachment called WTC.EXE that, if run, CAN ERASE EVERYTHING ON YOUR COMPUTER! Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english
RE: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please
He is in his 70s. There is an article on him in last weeks TV Guide I think. He mentions that no one knew who Adam Sandler was until (he) Bob Barker punched him. He says that now half of his audience is made up of college students. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/25/01 03:47PM I have always said I did not like bob barker then the movie happy Gilmore came out.. It became a joke then... How old is bob barker?? He must be 300 or something?? Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~ All spelling and Factual errors are the fault of Bob Barker ~~~ This space has been rented by: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk For all your tigger needs You 2 can rent this space if you need it. -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please I'm 63 and I suspected that it was the very same Bob Barker, but I just didn't get the point or joke of having Bob checking spelling! Murray -Original Message- From: Diane Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please How old did you say you are, Murray??? Or maybe, where are you from?? Bob Barker was an old TV game show host. Choose what is behind door number 1 Or that is the Bob Barker I would assume someone with a tigger cam would be referencing :-) Diane -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Uh, just who is this Bob Barker that you blame for spelling errors? Murray -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Didn't you say.. Unsub Refund your money : Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~ All spelling and Factual errors are the fault of Bob Barker ~~~ This space has been rented by: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk For all your tigger needs You 2 can rent this space if you need it. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please I didn't say that did I? -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Martin Blackstone made a great point the other day about the usefulness of this list. If ya'll don't find it useful... Go away. No one asked you to subscribe and you didn't even have to pay for your subscription. So grow up and figure out what you're going to do. -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please You're correct sir,...but there is much too much noise on this list nonetheless. I can't tell you how many postings I deleted about the WTC disaster that had absolutely nothing to do with NTSYSADMIN. It can be very frustrating but there is good info to be gleaned from this list. I've contributed and I've been helped, but there's still too much noise. Murray -Original Message- From: Dewar Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Name one. -Original Message- From: Andrew Blevins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Looks like those of us who want off the list will have to set up an auto-delete rule. This list is so full of noise, its not worth it. There are much more professional, and useful, lists out there. -Original Message- From: Darril Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Me too. It was advertised as a no noise list. Not so. In just a couple of hours, I have over 100 emails. I tried to get off, but the scripts on the web page don't allow it. Darril R. Gibson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Director of Continuing Education MCT, MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD America's Computer Training Source 340-, Cell 328-9299 -Original Message- From: Lucia, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Just for your info the script is not working!!! I too would like off this list Steve J. Lucia ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Break the Link between Novell and NDS for NT
We did it here and NT has never been the same. One of the biggest issue that we have still are that users that were created while the link was there can not be administered by anyone unless they have Domain Admin access. This kind of stinks here because our helpdesk resets passwords. I have had to give them Domain Admin access to do this and I am not happy. There was another guy on the list a year or so ago. We'll see if he has anything to add. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/23/01 09:00PM Folks I am sorry if this seems off topic - it is a question regarding Novell and NT being joined together and the possibility of breaking that link. Domain is Win NT 4 sp6a PDC and BDC Novell 4.11 NDS single server. Clients mix of mainly win 98 and a few 2000/NT WS. A prior admin joined the NT domain with the Novell NDS by using NDS for NT by Novell. I would like to break that link and keep things separate. I have seen it networks that needed both function much better when NT and Novell are not aware of each other. There are no Novell Resources need by any NT servers. I realize it will require more administration but I actually prefer that. Has anyone ever broken this link? I have a KB from Novell Doc ID 10011753. Any one know of any pitfalls? TIA Jim http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Duplicate Name Found
Why don't you down the server and try to ping the address and name. My guess is that the IP address will still respond. Hunt down the culprit (who, by the way, is getting an error message also and not reporting it) and kill them. Show no mercy. My 2 cents. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/01 08:29AM Static entry for the server name in a WINS database somewhere perhaps ... Dave -Original Message- From: Terrel Schimpf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 September 2001 14:44 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Duplicate Name Found I am getting Duplicate name found when I restart a NT server. I know that the name is not a duplicate. The only way I can get the server back on and working is to unplug the network connections and reboot the system. Once I login I can reconnect the network connections and all is well. Any ideas of what would make the server think there was a duplicate name? http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm ** The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee and access to the e-mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients, any opinions or advice contained in this e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing client engagement letter or contract. If you have received this email in error please notify: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Is there any way to know for sure? More Nimda stuff.
Maybe I am being paranoid. I have a server that the eeye scanner says is not vulnerable, I don't see any .eml files on it and when I scan for files changed since the 18th, there are no .exes. However, when I look at the task list, it shows 2 CMD.EXEs open. I have one open but not two. Am I being weird here? The second CMD.EXE un-nerves me, but I can't find any other sign of infection. Is there any one, sure fire way to KNOW that the box has been hit? Is there one registry entry or file or something that the virus ALWAYS does so I can see if the box is hit? I am thinking about re-building it, just in case, but if I can leave it up, I would obviously prefer that. Any ideas? JayW http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: IIS paches
I downloaded and loaded this one at the end of August, yet 2 of my boxes were hit. Do we know for sure that MS00-078 was included? JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/01 10:39AM Here is a cumulative patch from Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-044.asp -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IIS paches Hi all, Is there a way I can find all the patches released for IIS 5.0 at one place/package on the net? I have lost the track. Mal Mal Sasalu Information Systems Facilities Phone: (403) 295-4914 NovAtel Inc. Fax: (403) 295-45011120 68th Avenue NE [EMAIL PROTECTED]Calgary, AB T2E 8S5 http://www.novatel.ca -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:RE: Spontaneous Lockouts (Event 644) LOL: We share our pain! --Charles JSlattery@ar. navy.mil To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/2001 cc: 11:05 AM Subject: RE: Spontaneous Lockouts (Event 644) Please respond to NT System Admin Issues Thanks!!! (He happened to have BOTH of those situations.) I LOVE this list! Jimbo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spontaneous Lockouts (Event 644) Yep, it will happen if the users password just expired (or was changed) and. (1) The user logged on at another workstation and forgot to logoff yesterday. or (2) The user is using their profile to run services. hth --Charles JSlattery@ar. navy.mil To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/2001 cc: 10:50 AM Subject: Spontaneous Lockouts (Event 644) Please respond to NT System Admin Issues Having a user that keeps being locked out without attempting to log in multiple times. NT4 SP 6a 2000 Workstation on the desktop Using Exchange 5.5 and Outlook 2k for mail. (He first notices the lockout when he tries to open email and get's a login prompt.) Anyone ever run into this one before?? Thanks in advance for all of your help Jim Slattery Network Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Airport security (was: The idiocy continues!)
My guess is that it wasn't that there was no one to land it, but rather as low as they were flying, when a fight broke out, the plane dove and no one had time to pull it up. From all reports the plane was flying EXTREMELY low and suddenly shot down and exploded. I don't believe that they overpowered it and then didn't even try to get someone through talking them down. I think the fight started and it was continuing on right up until the moment of ground contact. My thoughts. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/01 04:48PM What I heard was that the passengers on that plane had heard the news of what happened to the other hijacked plane and knew what was planned for them so they took control of the plane but there was no one to land it. They passengers of the first two did not know what they were in for so they were more passive. Ed- -Original Message- From: Wendell Cotton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Airport security (was: The idiocy continues!) Not correct about being downed by a missile unless you're a huge conspiracy theorist. Eyewitnesses to the plane crash in PA said the plane went in sounding normal, i.e. the engines were running, no fire, etc. Wendell -Original Message- From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Airport security (was: The idiocy continues!) I am probably going to p a few folks off with this one, but think of this. That last plane went down 1 hour and 15 minutes after the first plane hit the WTC. I smell a cover up with that 4th plane. My gut screams at me that the US Gov't decided that those people on that plane were about to be killed no matter what. The plane was in the middle of nowhere when it went down. I don't think the US had any choice but to shoot that plane down, and it is something they can never, ever admit to either, even if the sacrifice of those lives equaled the preservation of potentially thousands of people. Second, shooting a gun off on a plane is akin to suicide. If the bullet goes out of the fuselage, the plane will depressurize, which jeopardizes the 'mission' in the first place. Also, I think it would be significantly harder for these guys to get guns on as opposed to knives. Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I Gameday International N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537 C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Airport security (was: The idiocy continues!) On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Clayton wrote: Can you imagine being a passenger on a hijacked plane after this? It won't happen again, because the next time a hijack happens, the passengers will think of New York and storm the hijackers before being used as a guided missile. There is evidence that the plane that crashed in PA had just that happen. However, what if they simply shoot everyone first? -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Airport security (was: The idiocy continues!)
There is evidence that the plane that crashed in PA had just that happen. However, what if they simply shoot everyone first? I would assume the fact that they didn't have guns might. The issue is not how to prevent other weapons, etc. We have done a decent job with keeping the guns out, now what do you do with people with knives, broken CDs, etc. They are not going to be able to stab everyone. So how does the airlines handle it if it happens tomorrow? What are their plans? I think that is what they were going after. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/01 04:59PM I too believe that the government should get more involved by instituting more strict security policies, but I also feel that the airports and airlines themselves should (and hope would want to) institute policies under their own power. If it was the policy of a privately owned airport to pat down each and every passenger before going through security gates, how many do you think would actually complain about their rights being taken away? It's a rule they'll have to abide by to fly. Plain and simple. The pilots are another story as well. Why can't they carry stun guns or tazers into the cockpit? Why can't they have steel barriers between the cockpit and cabin? It certainly wouldn't pose any more of a safetly issue. Why not make a certain degree of martial arts be a pre-requisite for all prospective flight attendants/pilots from here on out? It's no secret their job is becoming more and more important, and hazardous. Only people that have been trained to handle these types of situations should be allowed to hold these positions. I don't mean to disriminate here, but I've been on flights with ederly flight attendants that had a hard time walking down the aisle. What could an 80 year old woman do to help any passengers in these types of situations? I think adding an armed sky marshal to every plane would be a significant improvement in safety and preventive measures. But would we be introducing another potential danger? What amount of money will it take to keep these sky marshals from being disgruntled and downing planes themselves? There's no doubt in my mind that measures need to be taken, and I think they're making a good start. It's only natural to implement small changes as quick as possible and leave time for major changes to be investigated and researched. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Airport security (was: The idiocy continues!) On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Clayton wrote: Can you imagine being a passenger on a hijacked plane after this? It won't happen again, because the next time a hijack happens, the passengers will think of New York and storm the hijackers before being used as a guided missile. There is evidence that the plane that crashed in PA had just that happen. However, what if they simply shoot everyone first? -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: RUMORS CONCERNING THE PRICE OF GAS AND LINES AT GAS STATIONS
We had the same prices, but HUGE lines and even a couple of station were shown on the news as tapped dry. The fact that 3 AG's (OK, TX and MS) reported issues with it yesterday, implies it did occur, but I didn't see anything but the long lines personally. So, not the bulls**it you thought, but not quite the big deal that some of us thought either. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/01 08:46AM For those of you who posted RUMORS of gas lines and rising prices for gasoline, consider yourself part of OUR enemy. PLEASE, PLEASE post only information that you personally know to be factual. So here are the facts from the Northern Suburbs of Chicago, where our gas prices are among the highest in the U.S. I reported yesterday that a gas station near my office was at $2.09 for a gallon of premium on my way into work yesterday morning. However, when I went out for lunch, the price had DROPPED to $1.99 per gallon. After all the RUMORS yesterday and the fact that I had less than a quarter of a tank of gas in my car, I was somewhat concerned. But at 5:00PM that gas station near my office was STILL at $1.99 per gallon and to my surprise, NO LINES! I figured that since I pass several gas stations on my way home, I'd take a chance that the RUMORS were bulls**t and wait to fill at the station near my home. Well, every gas station I passed had the same pricing as in the morning and there were NO LINES to be seen. Finally, I came to the gas station near my home, and the price of gas hadn't changed and there were NO LINES, so I pulled in and filled up as usual. So for those of you who are willing to pass rumors and join our enemies in battle, I suggest you have an opportunity to leave the enemy and rejoin us who are lucky enough to live in the greatest land of all. And the way to do that is to check the facts before posting erroneous information and contributing to what could have been a real panic in the U.S. Murray F. (how long will I have to use this signature so as not to be confused with Murray B. in Canada) http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack
And we could have easily sat back and waited until our continent (not just our territory) was attacked, but we didn't. Sure the Sleeping Giant was awoke, but he didn't respond back to Japan only (or even primarily for that matter). We can all sit back now and question why we didn't enter earlier. It is easy to question policy when hindsight is 20/20. However, what you can't question is whether or not America just beefed up it's on shores and waited for Germany to bring the war to them or whether they sent the kids overseas to stop a country that was attacking countries that are geographically nowhere near the contiguous 48 states. America provided all of the help that Europe asked for, for years leading up to Pearl Harbor. At the time no one knew that America should have entered on principal because no one was aware of the Final Plan and all that went along with it. This is a perfect example of how people want America to stay out of their issues. This is was the attitude that De Galle and Churchill both expressed early on. We provided them with what they asked for. Japan attacked us and instead of just attacking them back America realized that it really needed to fight on both fronts. It did so and helped the world pull through. Contrast that to Russia's position. They were very similar to America and they were sticking it out also. Russia entered into a treaty with Germany even. Russia was then attacked by Germany. They didn't immediately send a fleet over to the Philippines. They didn't get with England and say, What do you need? They fortified their borders and defended themselves. Whether or not America entered early enough will always be debated. Whether or not they were primarily responsible for winning is not. Whether or not they could/should have just turned their fury on Japan and left Europe alone seems debatable to me. Whether or not they did so does not. We didn't enter it as soon as we could (although I do believe it was as soon as we were asked). But we most certainly did not fight this war as someone with THEIR security snip threatened. or it would have been handled on a different stage. We had no known issue with Germany other than the fact that they were starting to beat our neighbors. So in effect, America was fighting for itself as well. Not unless we fought our war solely against Japan and I think a quick perusal of any history book will tell you that this is not what happened. Germany would have let us clean Japan's clock if it would have meant us not entering into the European conflict. We chose to not even try this route. Again, I don't see how any of this was not helping our neighbors as they were given what they said they needed from us. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/01 10:13AM OK, I don't want to get into a huge debate or anything, but if I remember my history correctly, America was sitting out WWII until Pearl Harbour. Sure they provided equipment to the British, but Europe was on it's own until someone hit the US and THEIR security was threatened. So in effect, America was fighting for itself as well. -Original Message- From: Jay Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack We all won the war... The Allies. Their decendants. Those of us here. We all lost people in WWII. The point being here that until America entered into the fray, it was not boding well for ALL of Europe. Numerous countries were defeated and had already surrendered. Yes, we all won the war, but we all weren't responsible for that win as many of the teams had already left the playing field. And it obviously wasn't going well before America got involved. This goes back to the point that America does care about it's neighbors. We all won the war... seems a little flippant and not in understanding with what was going on at the time. I can tell you that we WEREN'T all winning the war until America came over and gave it's kids for foreign soil. Europeans were fighting to protect themselves. Americans were fighting for Europeans, our neighbors. To now say that we wouldn't care if this (the terrorist attack) had happened anywhere in the world is just silly. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Trust me. By the time Pearl Harbor was involved, it was a forgone conclusion that America was involved on both fronts. We were already sending raw materials and weapons (guns, tanks, planes, etc.). All that was missing was our people to shoot, drive, and fly them. America declared war on Japan but had already committed to everything but headcount on the other front also. Again, I would like to point out though that this is exactly what Europe had asked for. Perhaps America needs to revisit this policy of helping out rather than stepping-in and trying to solve everything. Although in this case, war was the eventual outcome (and of Kuwait also), this is not necessarily true of Bosnia, Somalia and a host of others that we got involved in. Of course those are my 2 cents. Maybe people looking back in 50 years will know things we don't. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/01 10:13AM Except that the US declared war on Japan only. Germany and Italy declared war on the US after that. -Original Message- From: Horst Hinz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack OK, I don't want to get into a huge debate or anything, but if I remember my history correctly, America was sitting out WWII until Pearl Harbour. Sure they provided equipment to the British, but Europe was on it's own until someone hit the US and THEIR security was threatened. So in effect, America was fighting for itself as well. -Original Message- From: Jay Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FW: NewYork Terrorist Attack We all won the war... The Allies. Their decendants. Those of us here. We all lost people in WWII. The point being here that until America entered into the fray, it was not boding well for ALL of Europe. Numerous countries were defeated and had already surrendered. Yes, we all won the war, but we all weren't responsible for that win as many of the teams had already left the playing field. And it obviously wasn't going well before America got involved. This goes back to the point that America does care about it's neighbors. We all won the war... seems a little flippant and not in understanding with what was going on at the time. I can tell you that we WEREN'T all winning the war until America came over and gave it's kids for foreign soil. Europeans were fighting to protect themselves. Americans were fighting for Europeans, our neighbors. To now say that we wouldn't care if this (the terrorist attack) had happened anywhere in the world is just silly. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
If you would like to get the whole story, go here: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/predict.htm I find it fascinating that someone made this prophecy as an example of how vague his stuff is and how it could fit many different things and now it is being made to fit here and being used as proof. There has to be a thesis in here somewhere. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/01 01:33PM I am so sick of hearing about Nostradamus. He just predicted lots of violence. Mankind, being violent, constantly provides opportunities to prove him correct. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about For an interesting commentary on this particular Nostradamus prediction, check this out: http://www.ed.brocku.ca/~nmarshal/nostradamus.htm John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Greg J. Ewy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Thanks for the expressions of support. Means much to us, knowing that there are lots of others throughout the world who feel the pain, and are supportive. Revelations, Armaggeddon, and Nostradamus have been on my mind lots today. In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb The third big war will begin when the big city is burning - Nostradamus 1654 Greg J. Ewy Trilogy Systems 515-964-9505 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
Nice touch on the voodoo crap. People look to their beliefs at a time like this. Calling it voodoo crap will accomplish nothing but more flames. You trimmed out what you are replying to, so I don't know what you are labeling as voodoo crap, but the Nostradamus stuff is discussed here if that helps: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/predict.htm JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/01 01:36PM Come on guys - let's keep our eye on the ball. NT, Win2000, and the victims. Leave the voodoo crap to CNN. Condolences to all over there. We have news of some Irish victims and given the NYC financial expat community and the Financial Services Centre in Dublin, we expect to hear of many more people affected who are Irish or who have worked over here for a while. A national day of mourning has been declared here for this Friday. Mark Dowling Sirius Information Systems, Enterprise House, Marina Commercial Park, Cork, Ireland +353-21-4316899 [fax 4316880] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
Now that flame was actually amusing. Guys, trust me, the debates between these 3 religions (Islam, Judiasm, and Christianity) are numerous and have been raging for 1,000's of years. They won't be solved here. Suffice to say that lumping all Muslim's together is akin to saying that all Christian would kill abortionist just because a few of them have. Most of the people that follow any of the religions are outraged at the loss of human life. Debating which one is right is better left for another day. Debating whether or not it is wrong to hold all of a particular religion responsible for the actions of a few would seem to fit today, but I doubt that anyone here is going to solve it any time soon. The grieving I understand. The debates on our policies towards our neighbors I understand. Even the debates on what part America holds when doling out the responsibility for this attack I understand. Trying to reconcile things that are diametrically opposed I don't. The religions will not jibe. That in no way, shape, or form, means that the followers of each religion will now (or should now) kill each other. It merely means that even people as intelligent as those on this list will not fix this one. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/01 01:32PM Thank you. Now that I have my daily dose of Islam from the NTSYSADMIN mailing list, I think I'll head on over to my Network newsgroup and read up on Buddhism. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/12/2001 01:54:14 PM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about I just visited this site link! The teachings of Islam seem to be very Anti-Christ. They don't seem to deny Jesus existed; only that He is the Son of God who came in the flesh, died on the cross for the sins of mankind, was buried, rose again and is now seated at the right hand of God. Further I noted that they believe salvation is through not only belief in God but through works; forgiveness of sins is obtained by converting to Islam...??? They go to great lengths to substantiate Muhammad' s qualifications as a prophet by quoting the Old Testament??? Hmmm... If they then use the Old Testament as a base to substantiate Muhammad why wouldn't they then see that in the Old Testament under the Law there is NO remission of sin without the shedding of blood in the form of a sacrifice (Lamb)? Jesus who lived without sin was made sin and slain as a sacrifice for the sins of all men. For as sin entered the world through one man (Adam) sin was atoned for by one man (Jesus). For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. My humble opinion, Harry Campbell RZorz@ScottsdaleC hamber.com To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/2001 12:04cc: PM Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Please respond toSomething to think about NT System Admin Issues Last night while watching my son at Pop Warner football practice, this tragedy was of course the topic of conversation. It's amazing to me how many experts there are. One guy was talking about why Muslims hate Christians. Being pretty damn ignorant, I decided to do a little research this morning, and found this site - www.islam-guide.com. Maybe it's watered down a bit, and it doesn't explain religious fanaticism. But at least I understand their religion a little bit better. Just thought I throw this out. At least for me, education and understanding goes a long way. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about On top of Revelation, the book of Daniel also makes for an interesting read. I'm not going to use this forum (or my employer's time) to proselytize. I would just encourage those who do not believe that the Bible is the word of God to maybe reconsider when Israel becomes involved in an all-out war in the Middle East. If I'm wrong and the war never happens, you can thumb your nose at me and laugh. But if I'm right and the war DOES happen, grab yourself a Bible and start reading it with the state of mind that it may not just be a book full of fiction after all. Intellectuality and faith are not mutually exclusive. That's all I'm going to say on the matter, so please withhold the flames (unless you want to send them to me personally off the list). John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Matthew Western [mailto:[EMAIL
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Right, but insulting the President earlier, that was right on topic. Delete the thread and move on. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 12:16PM Exactly. We're getting way off topic. -Original Message- From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack glad to see were all following the rule today. this is a forum for nt sys admin not current events. how bout we break out the instant messaging (aol,msn,...) for the of topic stuff. we all agree it terrible and we all have TV's and radios. - Original Message - From: Dennis Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:58 AM Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack And you don't think, that with over 20,000 people dead, World War 3 has not been started on our shores now -Original Message- From: Murray Binette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Well, I just hope that Bush (or the 'Puppet' as many Canadians refer to him as) doesn't fly off the handle and start WWIII. -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I would say that the US already feels pretty alienated right now - ASB -Original Message- From: Richard McClary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Well, that's one of the reactions terrorism is trying to provoke. Most of the world finds US policy to be obnoxious, and a violent large scale reaction will effectively alienate the US from the rest of the world. I don't mean to promote war, but we as a country HAVE to retaliate to this... F00k the 3rd world countries that harbor terrorists... http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
We actually had 2 bomb threats here and many of the roads downtown were closed for a couple of hours (just in case). Seems times like these times either bring out the worst or the absolute best in everybody. Some people threaten to blow up the Clark Tower and the Pyramid, some immediately start driving to New York to help out. Go figure! JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 01:22PM Just heard there's a nutball with a bomb and a gun in Memphis. -Original Message- From: Bart Southworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack That would be difficult. We did take care of the last one, here in good old Indiana. But the thought. Wow. The taliban is being sketchy, no denial. I'm at a loss. Anyone want to explain this to my 6 4 year olds? The younger is asking now. I dread the eldest coming home from school. I hope you have luck with yours, Andrew. I read on another list, that there may be a coordinated internet worm attack. (Not confirmed) -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:12 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Especially when we've had Internal Terrorism before. I'm almost hoping it's an external attack, because we will not be able to deal with an internal attack of this magnitude. - ASB http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Give me a break man. Delete the thread and move on. Not all of us are in a place where we can hear much about it. The thread is clearly labeled and it is not like these things happen daily in America. I'll take the news. You delete the thread. It would seem like today of all days you could cut people some slack. Those of us that have family there are trying to get any info that we can. I think finding out for the 15,000,000th time how to do the complete download of IE6 can wait. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 12:09PM glad to see were all following the rule today. this is a forum for nt sys admin not current events. how bout we break out the instant messaging (aol,msn,...) for the of topic stuff. we all agree it terrible and we all have TV's and radios. - Original Message - From: Dennis Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:58 AM Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack And you don't think, that with over 20,000 people dead, World War 3 has not been started on our shores now -Original Message- From: Murray Binette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Well, I just hope that Bush (or the 'Puppet' as many Canadians refer to him as) doesn't fly off the handle and start WWIII. -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I would say that the US already feels pretty alienated right now - ASB -Original Message- From: Richard McClary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Well, that's one of the reactions terrorism is trying to provoke. Most of the world finds US policy to be obnoxious, and a violent large scale reaction will effectively alienate the US from the rest of the world. I don't mean to promote war, but we as a country HAVE to retaliate to this... F00k the 3rd world countries that harbor terrorists... http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Then you can delete the thread and move on. Make a freaking rule for goodness sake. It trips me out when people gripe about this. I would think that today might be just a little different. A little slack might be called for today. Maybe? What pressing NT question do we have that this thread is stopping? JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 12:15PM Now, I know everyone has an opinion on this matter. But can we make an effort to get back to using this forum properly. We can pray for the victims, relatives, and friends of anyone directly affected by this terrible event. We can also pray for our leaders so that they may have the wisdom to act accordingly in all areas. Having said that, lets try to get back to using the forum for the proper issues. I apologize in advance if anyone is offended my remarks... the intent is not to offend anyone. -Original Message- From: Murray Binette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Has anyone heard about wether or not any attacks of any kind have happened up here in Canada?? -Original Message- From: Phillips, Glen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack And there's another one from United has gone downcrashed or shot down I don't know Original Message- From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 16:42 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I heard one, like a 767, crashed about 80 miles from Pittsburg, Camp David. -Original Message- From: Brenden C. Bryan [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:41 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack The US military shot down a hijacked airplane near Pittsburgh. That is the initial reports, don't' take it as truth. _ Brenden C. Bryan Network Manager Organized Living, Inc. 913.894.4844x264 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gareth Campling [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack deepest sympathys to everyone involved in this tragic day. can anyone in the states elaberate on the rumours on UK TV about a 4th airplane ? and US military to shoot down ? , all i can say is i hope it is pure speculation. Best wishes to all -- Best regards, Gareth, MCP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /P http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm * If you receive this e-mail in error, please contact +44 20 7280 5500. The information contained in this e-mail and in the attachments if any, is confidential. Unauthorised use, disclosure, printing, forwarding or copying is strictly prohibited. * http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
As has been said repeatedly, it is relevant to humanity. I would think that this would even include you right? Delete the thread and move on. Why are you reading it if you don't want the info? JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 12:43PM How is this relevant to NT system administration? -Original Message- From: Paul Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Basically, 40K people work in the Towers and there is estimated 200K people who pass thru the towers. most people who live in NJ and work in NY have to take the path trains to get into the city which passes right under the WTC! i actually witnessed the first plane hitting the tower from Brooklyn while waiting for a cab. I am now at work and trapped in the city because all trains buses are locked down. -Original Message- From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I heard 50+ thousand -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:44 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack any stats on how many people work/live in the WTC and/or area? i estimated around 25k-50k ... -Original Message- From: MLewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:37 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Both World Trade Center buildings have fallen. There is only rubble where these historic structures stood. Marcella D. Lewis Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excellence is in the details. Give attention to the details and excellence will come. (Perry Paxton) -Original Message- From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Could you confirm either more or less whether the structures are basically now grade level? -Original Message- From: Roman Bogdanov [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:24 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Im about 40 blocks from the towers and we were all told we can go home but all the bridges and subways are closed so here i am trying to figure out a way to get to brooklyn. Roman Bogdanov Head of IT Support Jnana Technologies Corp. www.jnana.com 212-560-9151 ext. 202 212-560-9066 fax -Original Message- From: Richard Newton Jr. [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Us in Jersey City, NJ (just across the water) were evacuated and sent home. Its going to be a long day for all. -Original Message- From: Jeff Pace [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack and it doesn't seem to be over yet. Jeff -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack This is an incredibly tragic day. Probably the most tragic for the US since the assassination of JFK - ASB -Original Message- From: Richard McMahon [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NewYork Terrorist Attack Check out this link. http://www.skynews.co.uk/skynews/storytemplate/storytoppic/0,,3-1029 102, 00.html Hope out all you guys in the New York area are still with us.. Good luck, Richard http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the named addressee, you are not authorized to retain, read, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. In addition, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this communication is strictly prohibited. The sender of this message does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
I was watching it this morning with my 7 year-old. It wasn't until the first tower toppled that he looked at me and said, Why do they keep doing this to us? Don't they know they have already hurt us? I guess he thought the towers coming down were yet another attack. It was a fun conversation. :( I wish I had known God was just an imaginary friend. It would have made that talk easier. Pity. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 01:41PM Luckily, I'll only have to talk about it to Gabby (almost 6) She's pretty much been robbed of her childhood, if you think about it. - ASB -Original Message- From: Bart Southworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack That would be difficult. We did take care of the last one, here in good old Indiana. But the thought. Wow. The taliban is being sketchy, no denial. I'm at a loss. Anyone want to explain this to my 6 4 year olds? The younger is asking now. I dread the eldest coming home from school. I hope you have luck with yours, Andrew. I read on another list, that there may be a coordinated internet worm attack. (Not confirmed) -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:12 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Especially when we've had Internal Terrorism before. I'm almost hoping it's an external attack, because we will not be able to deal with an internal attack of this magnitude. - ASB -Original Message- From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack It would be wise to make sure you know who perpetrated these atrocities before suggesting that anyone else should die. -Original Message- From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I don't mean to promote war, but we as a country HAVE to retaliate to this... F00k the 3rd world countries that harbor terrorists... -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I watched over the television. The structures of both north and south towers of WTO came down with a huge blast and now they are basically a heap of rubble. -Original Message- From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Could you confirm either more or less whether the structures are basically now grade level? -Original Message- From: Roman Bogdanov [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:24 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Im about 40 blocks from the towers and we were all told we can go home but all the bridges and subways are closed so here i am trying to figure out a way to get to brooklyn. Roman Bogdanov Head of IT Support Jnana Technologies Corp. www.jnana.com 212-560-9151 ext. 202 212-560-9066 fax -Original Message- From: Richard Newton Jr. [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Us in Jersey City, NJ (just across the water) were evacuated and sent home. Its going to be a long day for all. -Original Message- From: Jeff Pace [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack and it doesn't seem to be over yet. Jeff -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack This is an incredibly tragic day. Probably the most tragic for the US since the assassination of JFK - ASB -Original Message- From: Richard McMahon [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NewYork Terrorist Attack Check out this link. http://www.skynews.co.uk/skynews/storytemplate/storytoppic/0,,3-1029 http://www.skynews.co.uk/skynews/storytemplate/storytoppic/0,,3-1029 102, 00.html Hope out all you guys in the New York area are still with us.. Good luck, Richard http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Considering how many times we are accused of being the world's policemen and getting involved in way too much, Murray, that comment seems bizarre to me. I hope and pray to my imaginary friend that nothing like this ever happens to Canada, but I can bet you that if it did, America would be there. In times of catastrophe Americans are often the first to respond with, What do you need? and the last to leave after the buildings are cleared and the people are safe or buried. As I said, I hope it never happens to you, but if it does, I think you will find that you are mistaken and that Americans would care very much if something similar happened in Toronto or Edmonton. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 02:12PM You are sadly mistaken. I would be equally upset regardless of where this had happened. It's a cowardly attack on innocent people. -Original Message- From: Murray Binette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I find it hard to beleive that the US would give a rats ass if something similar happened in Toronto or Edmonton. -Original Message- From: Paul Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack How is this relevant? Well, I know some people who work in the WTC who are sys admins and I haven't been able to contact them since the crisis. Obviously there are others who are sys admins who probably lost there lives in this situation. I take it you know noone in NYC and probably dont care. I guess I wouldn't be wrong if the roles were reversed and this happened in your home town and you were caught in the middle of this thing and I didn't care. If you dont like the posts relating to this event, you could always filter them or simply unsubscribe, who cares since you have no sympathy for what has happened today! If this situation gets larger than what it already is and it starts to effect you, you will then find out the relevance to this list!! -Original Message- From: Murray Binette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack How is this relevant to NT system administration? -Original Message- From: Paul Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Basically, 40K people work in the Towers and there is estimated 200K people who pass thru the towers. most people who live in NJ and work in NY have to take the path trains to get into the city which passes right under the WTC! i actually witnessed the first plane hitting the tower from Brooklyn while waiting for a cab. I am now at work and trapped in the city because all trains buses are locked down. -Original Message- From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I heard 50+ thousand -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:44 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack any stats on how many people work/live in the WTC and/or area? i estimated around 25k-50k ... -Original Message- From: MLewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:37 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Both World Trade Center buildings have fallen. There is only rubble where these historic structures stood. Marcella D. Lewis Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Excellence is in the details. Give attention to the details and excellence will come. (Perry Paxton) -Original Message- From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Could you confirm either more or less whether the structures are basically now grade level? -Original Message- From: Roman Bogdanov [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:24 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Im about 40 blocks from the towers and we were all told we can go home but all the bridges and subways are closed so here i am trying to figure out a way to get to brooklyn. Roman Bogdanov Head of IT Support Jnana Technologies Corp. www.jnana.com 212-560-9151 ext. 202 212-560-9066 fax -Original Message- From: Richard Newton Jr. [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Us in Jersey City, NJ (just across the water) were evacuated and
Re: Attack and Gas Prices
I am hearing $4 a gallon in Little Rock, AR. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 03:10PM Can anyone confirm that gas prices are going up around the country? Supposedly it's around $6.00 a gallon already in some places... http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: WTC attack
You can loop it from that site. There is a Short Range / Loop on the left. Loop it and then zoom in. I believe that a bunch of that is the usual ground clutter, but if you zoom in on the area where the WTC was, you can definitely see a plume that is flowing to the south. I think that this is from the explosion. The Composite Reflectivity shows it even more. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 04:08PM I wonder what this looks like in a loop for the entire day. Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates -Original Message- From: Wendell Cotton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WTC attack Now this is a haunting image. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WTC attack It's on radar: http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/latest/DS.p20-r/si.kokx.shtml william -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WTC attack I'm watching MSNBC and the live shots still show a lot of smoke coming up from the area. Looks like a very large fire there now. Can any of you NYC people see it? There were also shots of the Brooklyn bridge (I think - never been there) full of people walking out of the city.One of my buddies in NJ said he could see an aircraft carrier in the river and jet fighters flying over his house. Slashdot reports that one of the founders of Akamai may have been on one of the planes that hit the wtc. Later - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Not in 2 hours. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 03:30PM On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Allen Crawford wrote: 2) We've all basically agreed this is the biggest catastrophe in recent history, if not all of history. All of history is a bit much. Stalin alone killed millions. -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Somebody earlier was asking if the towers fell all the way to the ground. Here is an image that says it all. http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20010911/ts/mdf50564.html JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 04:30PM We just lost 7 World Trade I used to live in NYC and my family still works and lives there. I finally got word that they made it (Thank God), and my heart goes out to all the men, women, and children who lost their lives. As a former employee in Two World Trade Center, I have a lot of friends who probably lost their lives, and I thank all of you kind people for your prayers and your kind words. I do believe that WW3 has indeed begun, and it is my prayer that we survive the coming global storm. God have mercy on us all. Andre http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Another Building Fell
Actually, no we don't. I don't have the news here and I appreciate the updates. Keep them coming and keep the whining about the thread to a minimum. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 04:41PM -Original Message- From: Michael Brubaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Another Building Fell A 47 story building next the WTC just fell! Yea, we watch the news too. :) Michael Brubaker Vice President Tel: (321) 631-8073 Fax: (321) 632-8769 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IICwww.iictel.com http://www.iictel.com/ International InterConnect 297 Barnes Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: HFNetchk Automation
I posted a whole script on the security list, but not this one. Check the archives around the middle of last month (http://www.sunbelt-software.com/win-security_list_charter.htm). Since posting that one, a couple of patches have come out and I have changed how I personally do the batch file, but it should give you a place to start. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/01 03:33PM AHAA!! Thank you all. QChain was part of the script as I can recall but thanks anyway, I should be able to figure it out from here :-) Thank you all. Cheers, Ahmed Farouk MCSE W2K http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: HFNetchk Automation
Pretty neat. A lot of the things that we were all screaming about when it came to the Command Line version of the Hotfix checker have existed all this while. You just needed to buy them. I REALLY like the AccountInspector. It gathers the info quickly and easily and lets you organize it how you want to see it, save it in a CSV format and import it directly to Excel with graphs already drawn. (Free solution for the poor folks = DumpSEC and AddUsers, lots of conversion and a pirated copy of Excel, just kidding Mr. Gates) The HFNetChkPro is basically the same info, but no errors or command line switches to foul up. It does a better job of explaining why this patch is needed and why that patch is not found. (Free Solution = HFNetChk from Microsoft to a text file, conversion and a pirated copy of Excel, again, not really serious here Mr. Gates) I was a little disappointed with the PasswordInspector. I could run it on my local box, but not the PDC. I don't know if that is because it is an eval version or what. (Free Solution = DOS version of L0phtcrack among others) All told, the tools are neat and easy to use. The cost will be the main hindrance to most. All of the info that these tools gather can be found for free. If you have the time and knowledge, it's there. If you don't have the time or knowledge, do you have $500. If you do, buy it. If you don't, get the knowledge and run the free tools instead. If it was $100-$200, I would tell everyone to grab it. The time it would save you in gathering and conversion would probably be worth it. However, at $500, Shavlik has cut out a large group of the poor, huddled masses, yearning to be free. These are the times that I love working for a huge corporation because $500 is nothing to them and this thing makes pretty little graphs that PHB's love. I will probably pick up the real version just because it is easier that running 10 tools, formatting and combining the data and then getting it presentation ready. My 2 cents. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/01 04:04PM Hi Jay, could you check these commercial versions out and let the list know what you think? http://apollo.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=730 Warm regards, Stu -Original Message- From: Jay Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: HFNetchk Automation I posted a whole script on the security list, but not this one. Check the archives around the middle of last month (http://www.sunbelt-software.com/win-security_list_charter.htm). Since posting that one, a couple of patches have come out and I have changed how I personally do the batch file, but it should give you a place to start. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/01 03:33PM AHAA!! Thank you all. QChain was part of the script as I can recall but thanks anyway, I should be able to figure it out from here :-) Thank you all. Cheers, Ahmed Farouk MCSE W2K http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: hack or virus?
Hack and a rather old one. Major patching needs to be done. After the format and rebuild that is. I think this is the one where it infected Sun boxes and then the Sun boxes infected NT boxes. It came out right after the US/China spy plane incident, so obviously they haven't patched in quite a while. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/06/01 11:07AM We have someone that came to us about hosting a site for them. When we went to look at their site, before we moved it over to us, we found it wasn't what they had put on their site. http://www.e-z-learning.com is the site. Is this a hack or a virus? I have seen this before on someone's site that wanted us to host for them, but I thought it was someone playing games at the time. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: IIS tuning
Aside from the 50,000,000 given last week? Nope, not really. :) JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/01 08:00AM M$ has just releasded a program call IISFix i think it is. This is a simple lil gui that u can use to lock down IIS REALLY tight Opinions?? Ryan -Original Message- From: Kent Spencer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2001 8:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IIS tuning .. look around www.iisfaq.com and you'll probably find something. Kent --- Martijn Eindhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys, Do any of you now a good guide to IIS 5 tuning. I did tuning a lot but i'd like to see some more resources about it. Met vriendelijke groet, M. Eindhoven W2K System Administrator Bevelander Internet Services B.V. Folkstoneweg 10 1118 LM SCHIPHOL Zuidoost Tel : 020 40 53 900 Fax : 020 40 53 910 http://www.bevelander.nl = This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. = http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: New Worm on the loose
Is there a subject line? JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/27/01 03:46PM Sorry about the cross posting. We don't have a lot of specifics on it, but there appears to be a new worm on the loose. The payload is a typical Melissa-style worm, where its only action is to send mail to all members of the GAL, with the following message: Hi, how are you ? I am fine here. Please read the page http://pcControl.tripod.com/ to get some knowledge and prevent somebody hack you. Forword this mail to help all your friends too. Its plain text, and carries no executables with it, but I haven't visited the website yet. More info to follow, but there is zero information on the web about it at this point. Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Compaq Array Controllers and Windows NT4 Security Roll-Up - Q299 444
Kind of, I have posted this one a bunch, but again, the issue is 99% of the time the SCSIPORT.SYS. I have always fixed it from the BSoD and haven't tried the Compaq fix yet, but maybe this will help anyway. You need to boot off of your ERD Pro diskettes or some other software that allows you to boot from diskette and see the NTFS drives (if you don't have a way to do this, you will need to again some day, so buy ERD Pro) and copy SCSIPORT.SYS from the WINNT\$$NtUninstallQ299444$$ directory back to WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS. You will see that one is 36K and one is 37K (or is it 56 and 57, can't remember now). When you reboot the BSoD goes away. I am hoping that this will also solve your 4 dots issue, but I can't guarantee it. If you don't have ERD Pro and you can't buy ERD Pro, then you will need to install NT to another directory, boot from there and then copy the file using the old directory path. Hope one of those helps. BTW, Compaq says that if you re-run the SSD after running the SPs and HFs, but before you reboot, you shouldn't bluescreen. I have found this to be untrue, but it is worth a shot. I would virtually guarantee that if you had run the cp001095.exe before rebooting, you would have been O.K. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/24/01 11:26AM I have a Compaq Prolaint 5500 (NT 4.0 SP6a) w Smart Array 4200 Controller that Blue Screened after installing the Q299444 Security Roll-up patch. I flashed the BIOS (P12 now dated 1/08/2000) and the Controller Bios (now rev C V4.48) and rebooted and it still BSOD's. I tried installing the driver mentioned below (cp001095.exe) and now the system hangs on the OS Loader screen. 4 dots () and that's it. Any ideas/solutions other than to start from scratch. Thanks. Larry Kent Network Administrator SBCCOM-Natick Natick, MA 01760 DSN 256-4981 Comm: (508) 233-4981 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Robertson, Alan (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Compaq Array Controllers and Windows NT4 Security Roll-Up - Q299 444 Importance: High The driver below is a newer version than is available on any of the Compaq SSD's Alan ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/servers/supportsoftware/cp001001-001500/cp 001095.exe ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/servers/supportsoftware/cp001001-001500/c p001095.exe Alan Robertson NT System Manager Amerada Hess Ltd Phone : +44(0)1224 243150 Mobile: +44(0)7884 116966 Fax : +44(0)1224 243307 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Clark, Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:05 AM To: AM Alan Robertson (E-mail); Gidley, Elliot Subject: Compaq Array Controllers and Windows NT4 Security Roll-Up - Q299 444 Importance: High Alan, One of our Specialists Elliot Gidley has identified the following issue which describes the type of problem you have been having but has been unable to get you on the phone. Would you mind having a look at this and calling Elliot or dropping him a mail? Elliot can be reached on 0118 9160221. Regards, Stewart Summary: The Windows NT 4.0 Security Rollup Package exposes an issue with all versions prior to 4.24.0.0 of the Compaq Array Controller device driver (Cpqarray.sys). The customer could have obtained the driver from any of the following sources: Compaq Web Site: Compaq Server Support (SSD) for Microsoft Windows NT 4.0; Compaq SmartStart and Support Software CD-ROM; Compaq SmartStart for Servers. Details: The updated driver has been posted on Compaq's web site. For more details, refer to Knowledgebase (KB) article: http://support.microsoft.com/support/misc/kblookup.asp?ID=305228 http://support.microsoft.com/support/misc/kblookup.asp?ID=305228 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
OT - Macromedia's pricing strategy?
I just got a bulletin that Macromedia released some new something. However, the interesting part to me was their pricing strategy. :) ~~ Pricing ~~ Pricing starts at just $1999 for a 3-user version. Add a single user for $499. For more details on pricing, visit: http://www.macromedia.com/go/sitespring_esd_pricing So, I can pay $1,500 fro 3 individual licenses or you will bundle them for me and I will save . . . oh, no, I will actually lose $500. Sounds like a great deal! I'm sure Marc at eeye will be interested to see if this works. :) JayW http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS01-044
No issues for me. I ran it on about 15 servers. Probably 4 different Compaq hardware platforms. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20/01 11:57AM For those of you who have installed this, have you seen any issues? We have run it in our dev env. with no issues, but just want to get a the opinions of others. Thanks Martin Blackstone Director, Information Technologies Superior Access Insurance Services 949.470.2111 x279 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: OT - Macromedia's pricing strategy?
So you have to also buy the Site license and then you still have to pay $500 more for purchasing 3 licenses at one time? Seems like a deal. :) Does the Site License maybe come bundled in the 3-pack? Is that the difference? JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20/01 12:24PM The single user license (which is an ADDITION to the Site license) would be useless to you without the original site purchase. William -Original Message- From: Jay Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT - Macromedia's pricing strategy? I just got a bulletin that Macromedia released some new something. However, the interesting part to me was their pricing strategy. :) ~~ Pricing ~~ Pricing starts at just $1999 for a 3-user version. Add a single user for $499. For more details on pricing, visit: http://www.macromedia.com/go/sitespring_esd_pricing So, I can pay $1,500 fro 3 individual licenses or you will bundle them for me and I will save . . . oh, no, I will actually lose $500. Sounds like a great deal! I'm sure Marc at eeye will be interested to see if this works. :) JayW http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: IIS stopping without reason
Wow, your BDC huh. What was the TCP address again? I will download the .sam and mail you your admin password as quickly as l0phtcrack can crack it. :) I'm sure everyone has already told you that this is likely Code Red. If this is on the outside, I would unplug it, quick and re-build it. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20/01 03:08PM Hello, My IIS4 server has been behaving strangely for the past four days. It is not a mission-critical unit (yet) as it runs only the users' default home page when they start IE though it was supposed to go live in a week as the IIS for OWA. On to the problem... All IIS services (NNTP, FTP, HTTP) are stopped. I click on one of them at random and hit Start. Nothing happens. I click Start again after a few seconds. The service in question will start and function normally, however anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes later, it'll stop again. There is no message in the log file other than a notice in the Security log that the IIS account logged in and out at start/stop. Besides IIS, that box is running Win NT 4 SP6a Server (no patch) and Exchange 5.5 SP1 (no patch) and it acts as the BDC. I've roamed through the Microsoft KB (not easy, what keywords do you use to describe this when there's no message in the log) to no avail. Anyone out there with a suggestion ? Eric Peeters Network Administrator TexLoc Ltd http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: IIS stopping without reason
It can't be Code Red... Until that machine actually goes live, port 80 is blocked to outside traffic As far as blocking port 80 to outside, I am pretty sure that Code Red can be adapted to hit any port, it just does 80 for obvious reasons. Also, I would wonder about internal boxes that then in turn got to this box. the Index Server service is disabled. Doesn't matter. All that has to be there is the IDA.dll or whatever file it was that eeye found the original vuln in. If the file is there, you can be hit. It is a buffer overflow, so it doesn't depend on a service, just the mere existence of a file. Not patched (not my choice, people higher up make decisions I can't argue with) Been there done that. I quickly left and went to a place that cared. I ran three all-files virus checks, on top of the on-access scan, since having this problem I am puzzled by this statement. I don't believe that there is anything to find for the worm except for maybe some registry entries. The first changed your webpage and I could see something catching that, but not an anti-virus. The third put a root.exe and maybe the anti-virus companies are looking for that now. However, I would rely on anti-virus to protect me from a Worm. You shut the door. I've rebooted twice (which should have taken care of Code Red if it had been an issue) No, only if you run the patch and then reboot. I've also ran the Code Red scanner, all to no avail. Don't know which one here, but most of then simply check if you are vulnerable, not if you are already hit. You are asking for help here and the best advice that I think any of us could give you is to first get up to date. Even if we are wrong and it isn't Code Red, there is still a real good chance that the SPs and HFs could help here. If I had to guess if you called PSS, that is where they would take you first also. BTW, if you are running this on Compaq hardware, tell me. There is a bluescreen gotcha on some of the platforms. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20/01 03:24PM It can't be Code Red... Until that machine actually goes live, port 80 is blocked to outside traffic (and I am toying with the idea of not using port 80 when it goes live anyways), besides the Index Server service is disabled. Not patched (not my choice, people higher up make decisions I can't argue with) doesn't mean totally abandonned. I update the McAfee virus scan definition list whenever a new comes out, I have GroupShield running on Exchange (updated just as lovingly), I ran three all-files virus checks, on top of the on-access scan, since having this problem, I've rebooted twice (which should have taken care of Code Red if it had been an issue) and I've also ran the Code Red scanner, all to no avail. Eric Peeters Network Administrator TexLoc Ltd -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IIS stopping without reason The no patch is the clue. My betting money is on Code Red - you have heard the news the past month? -Original Message- From: Eric Peeters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IIS stopping without reason Hello, My IIS4 server has been behaving strangely for the past four days. It is not a mission-critical unit (yet) as it runs only the users' default home page when they start IE though it was supposed to go live in a week as the IIS for OWA. On to the problem... All IIS services (NNTP, FTP, HTTP) are stopped. I click on one of them at random and hit Start. Nothing happens. I click Start again after a few seconds. The service in question will start and function normally, however anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes later, it'll stop again. There is no message in the log file other than a notice in the Security log that the IIS account logged in and out at start/stop. Besides IIS, that box is running Win NT 4 SP6a Server (no patch) and Exchange 5.5 SP1 (no patch) and it acts as the BDC. I've roamed through the Microsoft KB (not easy, what keywords do you use to describe this when there's no message in the log) to no avail. Anyone out there with a suggestion ? Eric Peeters Network Administrator TexLoc Ltd http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: IIS stopping without reason
When did you apply the patches? Could you have been hit before you got the patches on? We have had a couple of e-mail's on this also. Here is the last thread I remember, maybe it will help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/08/01 10:00AM Ok, further clarification. Some peopleare seeing these crashes as the result of redirects done via IIS directly (via MMC settings), but changing to an html page with a redirect in it seems to work fine. Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Network Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Pam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:53 AM To: IIS50 Discussions Subject: RE: POSSIBLE FIX CODE RED PATCH !! So what I'm understanding is: With Patch 001-033, and redirects set up in the MMC, systems can crash unexpectedly. Turn off the redirects at the MMC level, switch to using a page in that directory with the redirect tag in it, problem goes away. I've been seeing some quirky behavior of INETINFO on some servers (try to stop the service, INETINFO blows up), but I haven't had a server crash yet. Pam -Original Message- From: Okie Tex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:52 AM To: IIS50 Discussions Subject: Re: POSSIBLE FIX CODE RED PATCH !! We did this last night after John posted it on another mailing list. It worked for us as we had some redirects on some virtuals. Before doing this, we DID have the CodeRed Worm Patch from MS installed - however, our Inetinfo/DrWatson were bombing on us and we'd go down in between 10 minutes and a couple of hours. So - this, so far!! (fingers-crossed) - has worked for us and it's 10+ hours now since we did it - no downtime. System with problem: NT4,SP6a,Patch -ot From: John Cesta - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IIS50 Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IIS50 Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: POSSIBLE FIX CODE RED PATCH !! Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:40:56 -0400 I found this on a ColdFusion list I subscribe to. It may be a solution for the inetinfo crashes: For over two weeks, a couple of shared web servers have been going nuts. Dr. Watson locks Inetinfo, W3SVC stops, cycling all services usually did the trick. This trend escalated over the weekend with all of the probing going round. I gave in last night and called MSFT for help. He looked at my Dr. Watson and quickly knew the problem, HTTPRedirects in IIS after applying the CodeRed patch. I used MDUTIL.exe to dump IIS to a text file and searched for HTTPRedirect. Found a total of three across the two of them. Opened IIS, reset IIS to point to a directory, put a Default.asp in that directory with a single line % RESPONSE.REDIRECT HTTP://[IP]; % . Cycled IIS and the problem was solved. MSFT did not charge as this is a bug in the IIS / CodeRed patch. John Cesta JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20/01 03:45PM IIS stopping without reasonyou know, I'm seeing the same thing on one of my IIS 5.0 box and I've already applied the latest cumulative patch on Windows 2000 Server SP2. Even after the services stop, when I run the Code Red scanner from Symantec and eEye, they both come out negative... http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: IP addresses
In my case all of the boxes in my location all hit the net with the same IP address. Obviously I don't keep that address on the top of my head as it has nothing to do with my local boxes address. Just an example. JayW [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/14/01 03:43PM How do you not know what IP address you are using? -Original Message- From: Paul Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IP addresses Does anybody know a site I can use to find out what public IP address I am using to connect to external resources. I used to know one site but don't have the link anymore. TIA! http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
