RE: Question for Stu:
7pm will still be daylight? should be 9pm so we can see them.don't you think? -Original Message- From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question for Stu: Okay, I've heard there is to be a candle lighting tonight, nationwide. I've heard conflicting times: 1900 (7:00 p.m. for those who need to type a lot G) and 2300 all local times. I've also heard Eastern Standard Time. Could anyone on the list help me with this? -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question for Stu: ok! -Original Message- From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Question for Stu: Stu, I have a bit of a dilemma. I need some information verified regarding a national event tonight. Please, may I ask it to the NG, to see if anyone here could verify it, or confirm times? Thank you! ~ Jeff Rogers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Operation Maintenance Information Technology Services - Room 20 1501 S. Oak Champaign, IL 61820 Desk: 217-244-8013 Pager: 217-265-3682 Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody is watching. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: The idiocy continues!
my turn: Give me Liberty or give me DEATH! lib·er·ty [líbbrtee ] (plural lib·er·ties) noun 1. right to choose: the freedom to think or act without being constrained by necessity or force 2. freedom: freedom from captivity or slavery 3. POLITICS basic right: any of the political, social, and economic rights that belong to the citizens of a state or to all people (often used in the plural) 4. breach of etiquette: an action or remark that violates the polite distance usually left between individuals and that may strike the person at whom it is directed as insultingly familiar -Original Message- From: Puckett, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The idiocy continues! I never said they do not deserve the right just that these are our laws for Americans. I agree that everyone that wants it should have freedom. I just don't want to have another stinking trial for non Americans that end with us feeding them for life in jail (read last trade center bombing) instead of feeding them to the lions. Matthew Puckett MCSE, MCP+Internet, MCP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The idiocy continues! I apologize for adding to this thread but I could not help myself. Saying that someone who lives outside of our country does not deserve the same basic rights they we enjoy is pretty much off the mark. If I remember correctly our Constitution says all men are created equal. Every man, woman, and child should be treated like a human being, no matter their country of origin. Now, I am not saying be nice or even be civil to scum that masterminded the attacks in NYC. Personally I would like to see the SOB's head on a pike in Central Park. All this is my humble opinion. --Dan -Original Message- From: Puckett, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The idiocy continues! But lets remember that these rights are for americans only(no offense) and should not be used to protect the guilty hiding in other countries. They are not subject to our rights therefore no need for a trial. Matthew Puckett MCSE, MCP+Internet, MCP Customer Support Analyst Sprint PCS IT Service Delivery Bristol Customer Care Center 1-423-967-3086 - PCS -Original Message- From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The idiocy continues! On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Stuart Tonge wrote: What kind of civil liberties? For those outside the US, who may not be familiar with our government, here is a bit of a crash course: The foundation of our (i.e., the United States of America) government is our Constitution. The first ten Amendments to same are called The Bill of Rights, and specifically address certain freedoms our government is not allowed to restrict. An online copy is here: http://www.nara.gov/exhall/charters/billrights/billrights.html These form such a cornerstone of our political culture that all you have to do is mention the First Amendment and people will know you are talking about freedom of speech, press, and/or religion. I plead the Fifth is a common expression meaning I am not going to answer that, because it might get me in trouble. Whenever there is a major public criminal crisis, there are always those who advocate restricting these rights in the name of security or need. They do not seem to understand that the worst kind of crime is that inflicted by your own government against you. In this case, we can expect people to claim: - We should punish people without a trial, or even evidence - We should punish people who have committed no crimes - We should close our borders - Police should be able to search anyone at any time without a warrant - Police should be able to monitor private communications without a warrant Any of the above would violate the Bill of Rights. -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
and it doesn't seem to be over yet. Jeff -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack This is an incredibly tragic day. Probably the most tragic for the US since the assassination of JFK - ASB -Original Message- From: Richard McMahon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NewYork Terrorist Attack Check out this link. http://www.skynews.co.uk/skynews/storytemplate/storytoppic/0,,3-1029102, 00.html Hope out all you guys in the New York area are still with us.. Good luck, Richard http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: RE: Legal Email Issues - Dont shoot me :) -
I hope MY ex-wife isn't reading this thread.. -Original Message- From: Kelly Borndale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: Legal Email Issues - Dont shoot me :) - Even with headers, I am thinking that they would need someone to verify them... Or server logs or something. All which can feasibly be forged. K.Borndale [EMAIL PROTECTED] -home email - Original Message - From: Thomas W. Shinder To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:36 PM Subject: RE: RE: Legal Email Issues - Dont shoot me :) - Hi Benjamin, The phonied up email is worthless as evidence unless the mail headers can be presented as evidence. The header information would then need to be confirmed with the ISP logs. Of course, if it goes to jury rather than judge, she could present a salami with a message on it and claim you sent it as email. HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT -Original Message- From: Jeff Pace [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: RE: Legal Email Issues - Dont shoot me :) - aint divorce a b*tch? lol..been there done that, got the t-shirt. crying in front of the judge ALWAYS works! Your only defenseFACTS! Getting caught telling lies in court is the worst. If you can prove she is not being truthful, negotiations will be yours! Spite is a nasty beast. email off line for any other related horror stories...heh best of luck to you. Jeff -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Legal Email Issues - Dont shoot me :) - This is kind of a personal issue, but maybe someone could help me out as it relates to legalaties for email. My x-wife typed stuff up in word to look like an email and put threats and various obscenties in it. There is no header info just says subject,to,from and the offending text it could simply be typed in word (and was btw!:) ). Anyhow, I went online to mail.com, yahoo.com, hotmail.com, outlook, outlook express, and aol.com and printed up an email from each to show that this isnt what an email looks like. I also printed the header info from both outlook and outlook express to show server transactions. My lawyer is bringing in 'an email expert' to certify the email doesnt show anything. Any ideas.. would be grateful Although this is pertaining to my personal problem, it may be interesting to know what the law is viewing as a valid email vs. fraudlent email. I read up on some cases online but most dealt with spammers and not holding an email for an assault or contract negotation. Thx to any who have some ideas! http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
