RE: Anyone using DPM?

2011-10-12 Thread Joseph Heaton 
In what ways was it confusing to setup?  I've been using CommVault and
Netbackup for the last couple of years... how is DPM different/same to
these products?

>>> Jesse Rink  10/11/2011 6:21 PM >>>

I’ve recently used it at a customer for about 2 months now.   I find
the product to be really good in some areas, but severely lacking
(mainly documentation, and getting help troubleshooting specific
problems) in other areas.  For me, it was very confusing to
setup/configure and really understand what is going on and how backups
work – coming from 10+ years using Backup Exec or other products.  I’m
still on the fence whether I like DPM or not.
 
J
 

From:Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
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Subject: Anyone using DPM?

 

That's Data Protection Manager

 

Any experiences are welcome.  Do you like it?  Hate it?  How big is
your deployment?  Any field servers involved?  How does it compare to
Netbackup and/or CommVault? (those are the other two I'm personally
familiar with)

 

Thanks,

 

Joe

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RE: Anyone using DPM?

2011-10-11 Thread Crawford, Scott 
much agreed. its how backups ahould be...and thats coming from 10 years of 
backup exec.



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On Oct 11, 2011 9:18 PM, Michael B. Smith  wrote:

Dpm works differently, and because of that, requires a different thought 
process. I think that, after you adjust to that difference, it actually makes a 
lot of sense.
That being said – it did take me a fair bit of time to get my head around it 
too.
Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Jesse Rink [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone using DPM?

I’ve recently used it at a customer for about 2 months now.   I find the 
product to be really good in some areas, but severely lacking (mainly 
documentation, and getting help troubleshooting specific problems) in other 
areas.  For me, it was very confusing to setup/configure and really understand 
what is going on and how backups work – coming from 10+ years using Backup Exec 
or other products.  I’m still on the fence whether I like DPM or not.

J

From: Joseph Heaton 
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Subject: Anyone using DPM?

That's Data Protection Manager

Any experiences are welcome.  Do you like it?  Hate it?  How big is your 
deployment?  Any field servers involved?  How does it compare to Netbackup 
and/or CommVault? (those are the other two I'm personally familiar with)

Thanks,

Joe

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RE: Anyone using DPM?

2011-10-11 Thread Michael B. Smith 
Dpm works differently, and because of that, requires a different thought 
process. I think that, after you adjust to that difference, it actually makes a 
lot of sense.
That being said - it did take me a fair bit of time to get my head around it 
too.
Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Jesse Rink [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone using DPM?

I've recently used it at a customer for about 2 months now.   I find the 
product to be really good in some areas, but severely lacking (mainly 
documentation, and getting help troubleshooting specific problems) in other 
areas.  For me, it was very confusing to setup/configure and really understand 
what is going on and how backups work - coming from 10+ years using Backup Exec 
or other products.  I'm still on the fence whether I like DPM or not.

J

From: Joseph Heaton 
[mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]<mailto:[mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone using DPM?

That's Data Protection Manager

Any experiences are welcome.  Do you like it?  Hate it?  How big is your 
deployment?  Any field servers involved?  How does it compare to Netbackup 
and/or CommVault? (those are the other two I'm personally familiar with)

Thanks,

Joe

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RE: Anyone using DPM?

2011-10-11 Thread Jesse Rink 
I've recently used it at a customer for about 2 months now.   I find the
product to be really good in some areas, but severely lacking (mainly
documentation, and getting help troubleshooting specific problems) in other
areas.  For me, it was very confusing to setup/configure and really
understand what is going on and how backups work - coming from 10+ years
using Backup Exec or other products.  I'm still on the fence whether I like
DPM or not.

 

J

 

From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone using DPM?

 

That's Data Protection Manager

 

Any experiences are welcome.  Do you like it?  Hate it?  How big is your
deployment?  Any field servers involved?  How does it compare to Netbackup
and/or CommVault? (those are the other two I'm personally familiar with)

 

Thanks,

 

Joe

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RE: Anyone using DPM?

2011-10-06 Thread Tobie Fysh 
Not sure about comparisons, but migrated us from Backup Exec to DPM back in 
2007 and haven't looked back.
Our estate looks as follows:
HQ - Main datacentre with DPM secondary server with tape backup (D2D2T)
Depot site - Primary DPM server with NetApp SAN for storage (D2D)
Sites are connected by 100Mbs leased line.
Currently backing up 25 servers to varying levels
The live backups are streamed from the live servers at the HQ to the DPM server 
at the Depot site, with throttling this doesn't have any impact on live 
services (including VoIP).
The tape backups are then performed at the HQ on the secondary server from the 
primary backup server (which is offsite, at the depot). With this we keep the 
tape backups onsite as the primary backups are offsite (awaiting someone to 
shoot this down in flames).
As we are a pure MSFT estate it runs like a charm, SQL, Exchange, Lync, File 
Servers. All been backed up and successful test and real restores performed. 
Also we successfully performed a full DR test by taking just the DPM server and 
the offsite DC and then managing to restore all services.
I've migrated us from DPM 2007 to DPM 2010 which was the same as the Exchange 
upgrades (new hardware and swing over), all very painless.
All this being said - YMMV.
Regards
Tobie
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: 06 October 2011 21:19
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone using DPM?

That's Data Protection Manager

Any experiences are welcome.  Do you like it?  Hate it?  How big is your 
deployment?  Any field servers involved?  How does it compare to Netbackup 
and/or CommVault? (those are the other two I'm personally familiar with)

Thanks,

Joe

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RE: Anyone using DPM?

2011-10-06 Thread Paul Hutchings 
I'm not using DPM, but my understanding is that it's entirely 
Microsoft-centric, which is a good thing if you're a Microsoft shop, obviously 
not so good if you do or plan on having other platforms to backup and support.
I'm also pretty sure that it doesn't support dedupe and that support for aux 
copying data off to tape isn't as polished as things like Commvault.
Whether those are are issues of course depends on your environment and 
requirements.
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: 06 October 2011 21:19
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone using DPM?

That's Data Protection Manager

Any experiences are welcome.  Do you like it?  Hate it?  How big is your 
deployment?  Any field servers involved?  How does it compare to Netbackup 
and/or CommVault? (those are the other two I'm personally familiar with)

Thanks,

Joe

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RE: Anyone using DPM?

2011-10-06 Thread Crawford, Scott 
We love it.
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:19 PM
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Subject: Anyone using DPM?

That's Data Protection Manager

Any experiences are welcome.  Do you like it?  Hate it?  How big is your 
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and/or CommVault? (those are the other two I'm personally familiar with)

Thanks,

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Anyone using DPM?

2011-10-06 Thread Joseph Heaton 
That's Data Protection Manager
 
Any experiences are welcome.  Do you like it?  Hate it?  How big is your 
deployment?  Any field servers involved?  How does it compare to Netbackup 
and/or CommVault? (those are the other two I'm personally familiar with)
 
Thanks,
 
Joe

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