RE: Can't send large attachments

2012-10-19 Thread Leif Wahlberg 
Under where?

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From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 23:06
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re:  Can't send large attachments

Indeed Sir!

It was the IronPort.  It seems that before AsyncOS 7.6 there was a
larger file size limit, 40M it is now 10M (and as some people
correctly pointed out with MIME encoding accounting for 150%
inflation) you have a functional limit of around 7.5M although YMMV.

The good news it that we know what the issue is;  at least we have
that.  A vague "something is wrong" is not an acceptable answer.

--as always thanks to everyone for your help.

Sean

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
> I don't know about IronPort specifically, but its not uncommon for e-mail
> encryption solutions to enforce a specific size limitation on messages to
be
> encrypted.
>
> - Saen
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:07 PM, S Powell  wrote:
>>
>> Okay, thank you all, I found one answer, It was the IronPort that was the
>> issue.
>>
>> it was a rule in the Relay settings.
>>
>> now I can send, just not encrypt our large files... sigh...
>>
>> calling cisco now
>>
>> -
>> Sub ubi semper ubi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Candee  wrote:
>> >
>> > Did you restart the Transport service?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:05 AM, S Powell  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi guys,
>> >>
>> >> I'm having issues with sending some very large attached files.
>> >>
>> >> the issue is that i'm not sure where the issue really is.
>> >>
>> >> I have upped the limit in Exchange 2007 to 30M, " Set-TransportConfig
>> >> -MaxReceiveSize 30MB -MaxSendSize 30MB"
>> >> and there are no limits on the Users mailboxes.
>> >>
>> >> On our Ironport I've gone in like this says
>> >> https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/3594048#3594048
>> >>
>> >> on the iron port SSH in and >scanconfig
>> >> Enter the maximum size of attachment to scan:  (set it to the MAX)
>> >> set the timeout to 60.
>> >>
>> >> And on our firewall, Fortigate 60C, Ive set the UTM and the AV filters
>> >> to
>> >> 25M
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I keep getting this:: (on an 8M PDF)
>> >>  #550 5.3.4 SMTPSEND.OverAdvertisedSize; message size
>> >> exceeds fixed maximum size ##
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >>
>> >> I can send these files internally fine, i've sent internally up to 15M
>> >> and I can receive up to 8MB but cannot send that same file out.
>> >> If you have any thoughts
>> >> i'd be grateful.
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >> -
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Re: Can't send large attachments

2012-10-18 Thread S Powell 
Indeed Sir!

It was the IronPort.  It seems that before AsyncOS 7.6 there was a
larger file size limit, 40M it is now 10M (and as some people
correctly pointed out with MIME encoding accounting for 150%
inflation) you have a functional limit of around 7.5M although YMMV.

The good news it that we know what the issue is;  at least we have
that.  A vague "something is wrong" is not an acceptable answer.

--as always thanks to everyone for your help.

Sean

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
> I don't know about IronPort specifically, but its not uncommon for e-mail
> encryption solutions to enforce a specific size limitation on messages to be
> encrypted.
>
> - Saen
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:07 PM, S Powell  wrote:
>>
>> Okay, thank you all, I found one answer, It was the IronPort that was the
>> issue.
>>
>> it was a rule in the Relay settings.
>>
>> now I can send, just not encrypt our large files... sigh...
>>
>> calling cisco now
>>
>> -
>> Sub ubi semper ubi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Candee  wrote:
>> >
>> > Did you restart the Transport service?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:05 AM, S Powell  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi guys,
>> >>
>> >> I'm having issues with sending some very large attached files.
>> >>
>> >> the issue is that i'm not sure where the issue really is.
>> >>
>> >> I have upped the limit in Exchange 2007 to 30M, " Set-TransportConfig
>> >> -MaxReceiveSize 30MB -MaxSendSize 30MB"
>> >> and there are no limits on the Users mailboxes.
>> >>
>> >> On our Ironport I've gone in like this says
>> >> https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/3594048#3594048
>> >>
>> >> on the iron port SSH in and >scanconfig
>> >> Enter the maximum size of attachment to scan:  (set it to the MAX)
>> >> set the timeout to 60.
>> >>
>> >> And on our firewall, Fortigate 60C, Ive set the UTM and the AV filters
>> >> to
>> >> 25M
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I keep getting this:: (on an 8M PDF)
>> >>  #550 5.3.4 SMTPSEND.OverAdvertisedSize; message size
>> >> exceeds fixed maximum size ##
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >>
>> >> I can send these files internally fine, i've sent internally up to 15M
>> >> and I can receive up to 8MB but cannot send that same file out.
>> >> If you have any thoughts
>> >> i'd be grateful.
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >> -
>> >> Sub ubi semper ubi
>> >>
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Re: Can't send large attachments

2012-10-17 Thread Sean Martin 
I don't know about IronPort specifically, but its not uncommon for e-mail
encryption solutions to enforce a specific size limitation on messages to
be encrypted.

- Saen

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:07 PM, S Powell  wrote:

> Okay, thank you all, I found one answer, It was the IronPort that was the
> issue.
>
> it was a rule in the Relay settings.
>
> now I can send, just not encrypt our large files... sigh...
>
> calling cisco now
>
> -
> Sub ubi semper ubi
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Candee  wrote:
> >
> > Did you restart the Transport service?
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:05 AM, S Powell  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I'm having issues with sending some very large attached files.
> >>
> >> the issue is that i'm not sure where the issue really is.
> >>
> >> I have upped the limit in Exchange 2007 to 30M, " Set-TransportConfig
> >> -MaxReceiveSize 30MB -MaxSendSize 30MB"
> >> and there are no limits on the Users mailboxes.
> >>
> >> On our Ironport I've gone in like this says
> >> https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/3594048#3594048
> >>
> >> on the iron port SSH in and >scanconfig
> >> Enter the maximum size of attachment to scan:  (set it to the MAX)
> >> set the timeout to 60.
> >>
> >> And on our firewall, Fortigate 60C, Ive set the UTM and the AV filters
> to
> >> 25M
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I keep getting this:: (on an 8M PDF)
> >>  #550 5.3.4 SMTPSEND.OverAdvertisedSize; message size
> >> exceeds fixed maximum size ##
> >>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> I can send these files internally fine, i've sent internally up to 15M
> >> and I can receive up to 8MB but cannot send that same file out.
> >> If you have any thoughts
> >> i'd be grateful.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> -
> >> Sub ubi semper ubi
> >>
> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> >> ~   ~
> >>
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Can't send large attachments

2012-10-17 Thread S Powell 
Okay, thank you all, I found one answer, It was the IronPort that was the issue.

it was a rule in the Relay settings.

now I can send, just not encrypt our large files... sigh...

calling cisco now

-
Sub ubi semper ubi


On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Candee  wrote:
>
> Did you restart the Transport service?
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:05 AM, S Powell  wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I'm having issues with sending some very large attached files.
>>
>> the issue is that i'm not sure where the issue really is.
>>
>> I have upped the limit in Exchange 2007 to 30M, " Set-TransportConfig
>> -MaxReceiveSize 30MB -MaxSendSize 30MB"
>> and there are no limits on the Users mailboxes.
>>
>> On our Ironport I've gone in like this says
>> https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/3594048#3594048
>>
>> on the iron port SSH in and >scanconfig
>> Enter the maximum size of attachment to scan:  (set it to the MAX)
>> set the timeout to 60.
>>
>> And on our firewall, Fortigate 60C, Ive set the UTM and the AV filters to
>> 25M
>>
>>
>>
>> I keep getting this:: (on an 8M PDF)
>>  #550 5.3.4 SMTPSEND.OverAdvertisedSize; message size
>> exceeds fixed maximum size ##
>>
>> ---
>>
>> I can send these files internally fine, i've sent internally up to 15M
>> and I can receive up to 8MB but cannot send that same file out.
>> If you have any thoughts
>> i'd be grateful.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> -
>> Sub ubi semper ubi
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
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Re: Can't send large attachments

2012-10-17 Thread Candee 
Did you restart the Transport service?
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:05 AM, S Powell  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I'm having issues with sending some very large attached files.
>
> the issue is that i'm not sure where the issue really is.
>
> I have upped the limit in Exchange 2007 to 30M, " Set-TransportConfig
> -MaxReceiveSize 30MB -MaxSendSize 30MB"
> and there are no limits on the Users mailboxes.
>
> On our Ironport I've gone in like this says
> https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/3594048#3594048
>
> on the iron port SSH in and >scanconfig
> Enter the maximum size of attachment to scan:  (set it to the MAX)
> set the timeout to 60.
>
> And on our firewall, Fortigate 60C, Ive set the UTM and the AV filters to
> 25M
>
>
>
> I keep getting this:: (on an 8M PDF)
>  #550 5.3.4 SMTPSEND.OverAdvertisedSize; message size
> exceeds fixed maximum size ##
>
> ---
>
> I can send these files internally fine, i've sent internally up to 15M
> and I can receive up to 8MB but cannot send that same file out.
> If you have any thoughts
> i'd be grateful.
>
> thanks
>
> -
> Sub ubi semper ubi
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
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Re: Can't send large attachments

2012-10-17 Thread Christopher Bodnar 
My guess is that the attachment is increasing in size as it's encoded. 
Take a look at this:

http://searchexchange.techtarget.com/tip/Outbound-message-size-changes-due-to-format-conversions

I've never used that utility before, but I think you need to figure out 
the size that Exchange is encoding this to. 


Christopher Bodnar 
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise 
Architecture and Engineering Services 
Tel 610-807-6459 
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From:   S Powell 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   10/17/2012 11:05 AM
Subject:    Can't send large attachments



Hi guys,

I'm having issues with sending some very large attached files.

the issue is that i'm not sure where the issue really is.

I have upped the limit in Exchange 2007 to 30M, " Set-TransportConfig
-MaxReceiveSize 30MB -MaxSendSize 30MB"
and there are no limits on the Users mailboxes.

On our Ironport I've gone in like this says
https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/3594048#3594048

on the iron port SSH in and >scanconfig
Enter the maximum size of attachment to scan:  (set it to the MAX)
set the timeout to 60.

And on our firewall, Fortigate 60C, Ive set the UTM and the AV filters to 
25M



I keep getting this:: (on an 8M PDF)
 #550 5.3.4 SMTPSEND.OverAdvertisedSize; message size
exceeds fixed maximum size ##

---

I can send these files internally fine, i've sent internally up to 15M
and I can receive up to 8MB but cannot send that same file out.
If you have any thoughts
i'd be grateful.

thanks

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Re: Can't send large attachments

2012-10-17 Thread Kurt Buff 
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:05 AM, S Powell  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm having issues with sending some very large attached files.
>
> the issue is that i'm not sure where the issue really is.
>
> I have upped the limit in Exchange 2007 to 30M, " Set-TransportConfig
> -MaxReceiveSize 30MB -MaxSendSize 30MB"
> and there are no limits on the Users mailboxes.
>
> On our Ironport I've gone in like this says
> https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/3594048#3594048
>
> on the iron port SSH in and >scanconfig
> Enter the maximum size of attachment to scan:  (set it to the MAX)
> set the timeout to 60.
>
> And on our firewall, Fortigate 60C, Ive set the UTM and the AV filters to 25M
>
>
>
> I keep getting this:: (on an 8M PDF)
>  #550 5.3.4 SMTPSEND.OverAdvertisedSize; message size
> exceeds fixed maximum size ##
>
> ---
>
> I can send these files internally fine, i've sent internally up to 15M
> and I can receive up to 8MB but cannot send that same file out.
> If you have any thoughts
> i'd be grateful.

What exactly is the content of the PDF? Is it primarily text, or is it
a single embedded TIFF image, or mixed text/images?

Be aware SMTP is a text-only protocol. This means that if it's all or
mostly binary data (images, mostly) that the transmitted size can be
significantly larger than the size of the message on disk, because the
binary data is encoded into a text equivalent.

Kurt

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Can't send large attachments

2012-10-17 Thread S Powell 
Hi guys,

I'm having issues with sending some very large attached files.

the issue is that i'm not sure where the issue really is.

I have upped the limit in Exchange 2007 to 30M, " Set-TransportConfig
-MaxReceiveSize 30MB -MaxSendSize 30MB"
and there are no limits on the Users mailboxes.

On our Ironport I've gone in like this says
https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/3594048#3594048

on the iron port SSH in and >scanconfig
Enter the maximum size of attachment to scan:  (set it to the MAX)
set the timeout to 60.

And on our firewall, Fortigate 60C, Ive set the UTM and the AV filters to 25M



I keep getting this:: (on an 8M PDF)
 #550 5.3.4 SMTPSEND.OverAdvertisedSize; message size
exceeds fixed maximum size ##

---

I can send these files internally fine, i've sent internally up to 15M
and I can receive up to 8MB but cannot send that same file out.
If you have any thoughts
i'd be grateful.

thanks

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