Re: HP DL120 G6 - Hard Drive Configuration

[Andrew S. Baker]

+1

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Damien Solodow
wrote:

> I would strongly advise against using 3rd party hard drives. The HP
> branded drives have predictive failure logic, and can be monitored by
> the HP server agents.
>
> As far as raid, it depends on which controller you order it with. The
> base model only includes a SATA controller, no RAID. The other option is
> the Smart Array P212 which supports RAID 0/1/1+0/5/5+0.
>
> QuickSpecs for the server are here:
> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13504_na/13504_na.html
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:01 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: HP DL120 G6 - Hard Drive Configuration
>
> Hey list,
>
> I'm taking a serious look at the HP DL120 G6 server... and so far I'm
> liking what I'm seeing.
>
> Can I put my own hard drives in this unit, or will HP only support the
> system if it's has their own drives? Does the raid on this system
> support raid 10?
>
> Thanks for the insight.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: HP DL120 G6 - Hard Drive Configuration

[Erik Goldoff]

If you're going to use the SMART array drive controller, then you want
drives with the HP firmware on them ( not consumer shelf drives ) 



Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: HP DL120 G6 - Hard Drive Configuration

Hey list,

I'm taking a serious look at the HP DL120 G6 server... and so far I'm liking
what I'm seeing.

Can I put my own hard drives in this unit, or will HP only support the
system if it's has their own drives? Does the raid on this system support
raid 10?

Thanks for the insight.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: HP DL120 G6 - Hard Drive Configuration

[Damien Solodow]

I would strongly advise against using 3rd party hard drives. The HP
branded drives have predictive failure logic, and can be monitored by
the HP server agents.

As far as raid, it depends on which controller you order it with. The
base model only includes a SATA controller, no RAID. The other option is
the Smart Array P212 which supports RAID 0/1/1+0/5/5+0.

QuickSpecs for the server are here:
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13504_na/13504_na.html

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: HP DL120 G6 - Hard Drive Configuration

Hey list,

I'm taking a serious look at the HP DL120 G6 server... and so far I'm
liking what I'm seeing.

Can I put my own hard drives in this unit, or will HP only support the
system if it's has their own drives? Does the raid on this system
support raid 10?

Thanks for the insight.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

HP DL120 G6 - Hard Drive Configuration

[Matthew W. Ross]

Hey list,

I'm taking a serious look at the HP DL120 G6 server... and so far I'm liking 
what I'm seeing.

Can I put my own hard drives in this unit, or will HP only support the system 
if it's has their own drives? Does the raid on this system support raid 10?

Thanks for the insight.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Hard drive configuration

[Andrew Baker]

Title: RE: Hard drive configuration



And 
when it breaks, it breaks very well too...
 
I'm 
happy it works for you.
 
 
- ASB
 

  -Original Message-From: Robert Young 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 
  3:24 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  Relax, it's really not that bad, I manage hundreds of NT 
  servers that have software mirroring, they attest to the fact it works VERY 
  WELL INDEED ...
  RE Young MCSE Client Server Systems 
  Engineering Dallas, Texas 
  -Original Message- From: xylog 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:35 AM To: NT 
  System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hard drive 
  configuration 
  If your on a really tight budget you can get good reliability 
  with a Software mirrored SLED configuration (thats 
  Single Large Expensive Disk) if you use two scsi 
  controllers one for each disk. Other wise I agree with the general sentiment that software RAID is bad, very bad. 
  xylog - Original Message 
  - From: "Andrew Baker" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin 
  Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration 
  > Truly mission critical = Hardware SCSI RAID 
  controller > > Not 
  really mission critical = Hardware ATA RAID controller > > Plain broke and someone else's data = 
  Software RAID on a Workstation class > 
  system. > > 
  > - ASB > > -Original Message- > From: RE 
  Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:04 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: 
  Re: Hard drive configuration > > > If you truly have a "mission 
  critical" application/data then push the > 
  "hardware solution", on the other hand if you don't really need it... 
  > > now I'm up to 
  $.04.. > > RE 
  Young MCSE > Client Server System 
  Engineering > Dallas, TX > > > 
  > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: NT 
  System Admin Issues > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 
  2001 12:50 PM > Subject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration > > 
  > That is very true and if I can't get the money to 
  purchase a RAID > controller, software is the way 
  I'll have to go.  Hopefully I will be able > 
  to convince them and/or I'll have to use one of my tricks for staying 
  under > the limit that requires 
  approval. ;-) > -Original Message- 
  > From: RE Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:38 AM 
  > To: NT System Admin Issues > 
  Subject: Re: Hard drive configuration > 
  > > I have used softrware raid 
  in hundreds of NT servers for years w/o problems, > it is there to use. if for 
  example, there is no money in the buget for > 
  hardware raid controllers, the reality is money is an issue. > > My $.02.. > > RE Young MCSE > > - Original Message - 
  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
  To: NT System Admin Issues > Sent: Thursday, August 
  30, 2001 10:50 AM > Subject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration > > 
  > That's too funny.  I do at least know Hardware RAID 
  is better than Software > 
  RAID.  And if NT will allow me to duplex, as it was suggested by 
  someone > else, then that's probably what I'll 
  do. > -Original Message- > From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: 
  RE: Hard drive configuration > > > I second this, only ever use Hardware 
  RAID, which RAID config depends on > what you are 
  doing. > > When 
  interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer we had 
  > someone say that they thought that software RAID was 
  "slick", that was the > last thing he said that I 
  heard. > > 
  > > > Kevin > > > > 
  +---+ 
  > Kevin Flanagan > C/S Planning 
  Engineer III > I/T Implementation Department 
  > Branch Banking & Trust Company > 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 > MC: 
  172-85-01-00 > Raleigh, NC  27604 
  > Voice: 919-716-6209 > 
  -Original Message- > From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:34 PM 
  > To: NT System Admin Issues > 
  Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration > 
  > > Thanks for the info.  
  I will see if I can do that. > -Original 
  Message- > From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:23 PM 
  > To: NT System Admin Issues > 
  Subject: RE: Hard drive configura

RE: Hard drive configuration

[Robert Young]

Title: RE: Hard drive configuration





Relax, it's really not that bad, I manage hundreds of NT servers that have software mirroring, they attest to the fact it works VERY WELL INDEED ...

RE Young MCSE
Client Server Systems Engineering
Dallas, Texas


-Original Message-
From: xylog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hard drive configuration



If your on a really tight budget you can get good reliability with a
Software mirrored SLED configuration (thats Single Large Expensive Disk) if
you use two scsi controllers one for each disk. Other wise I agree with the
general sentiment that software RAID is bad, very bad.


xylog
- Original Message -
From: "Andrew Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration



> Truly mission critical = Hardware SCSI RAID controller
>
> Not really mission critical = Hardware ATA RAID controller
>
> Plain broke and someone else's data = Software RAID on a Workstation class
> system.
>
>
> - ASB
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RE Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:04 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> If you truly have a "mission critical" application/data then push the
> "hardware solution", on the other hand if you don't really need it...
>
> now I'm up to $.04..
>
> RE Young MCSE
> Client Server System Engineering
> Dallas, TX
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:50 PM
> Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> That is very true and if I can't get the money to purchase a RAID
> controller, software is the way I'll have to go.  Hopefully I will be able
> to convince them and/or I'll have to use one of my tricks for staying
under
> the limit that requires approval. ;-)
> -Original Message-
> From: RE Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:38 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> I have used softrware raid in hundreds of NT servers for years w/o
problems,
> it is there to use. if for example, there is no money in the buget for
> hardware raid controllers, the reality is money is an issue.
>
> My $.02..
>
> RE Young MCSE
>
> - Original Message -
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:50 AM
> Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> That's too funny.  I do at least know Hardware RAID is better than
Software
> RAID.  And if NT will allow me to duplex, as it was suggested by someone
> else, then that's probably what I'll do.
> -Original Message-
> From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> I second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config depends on
> what you are doing.
>
> When interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer we had
> someone say that they thought that software RAID was "slick", that was the
> last thing he said that I heard.
>
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> +---+
> Kevin Flanagan
> C/S Planning Engineer III
> I/T Implementation Department
> Branch Banking & Trust Company
> 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116
> MC: 172-85-01-00
> Raleigh, NC  27604
> Voice: 919-716-6209
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:34 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> Thanks for the info.  I will see if I can do that.
> -Original Message-
> From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:23 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> volume sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of crashing at bad
times -
> I would personally do a raid array witha good hardware (Adaptec) raid
> controller.
>
>
> Jim Zangara, MCSE+I
> Special Projects Engineer
> Premiere Radio Networks
> A Division of Clear Channel Communications
> 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500
> Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
> Direct: (818) 461-8620
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> In my house there's this light switch that

Re: Hard drive configuration

[xylog]

If your on a really tight budget you can get good reliability with a
Software mirrored SLED configuration (thats Single Large Expensive Disk) if
you use two scsi controllers one for each disk. Other wise I agree with the
general sentiment that software RAID is bad, very bad.

xylog
- Original Message -
From: "Andrew Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration


> Truly mission critical = Hardware SCSI RAID controller
>
> Not really mission critical = Hardware ATA RAID controller
>
> Plain broke and someone else's data = Software RAID on a Workstation class
> system.
>
>
> - ASB
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RE Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:04 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> If you truly have a "mission critical" application/data then push the
> "hardware solution", on the other hand if you don't really need it...
>
> now I'm up to $.04..
>
> RE Young MCSE
> Client Server System Engineering
> Dallas, TX
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:50 PM
> Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> That is very true and if I can't get the money to purchase a RAID
> controller, software is the way I'll have to go.  Hopefully I will be able
> to convince them and/or I'll have to use one of my tricks for staying
under
> the limit that requires approval. ;-)
> -Original Message-
> From: RE Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:38 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> I have used softrware raid in hundreds of NT servers for years w/o
problems,
> it is there to use. if for example, there is no money in the buget for
> hardware raid controllers, the reality is money is an issue.
>
> My $.02..
>
> RE Young MCSE
>
> - Original Message -
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:50 AM
> Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> That's too funny.  I do at least know Hardware RAID is better than
Software
> RAID.  And if NT will allow me to duplex, as it was suggested by someone
> else, then that's probably what I'll do.
> -Original Message-
> From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> I second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config depends on
> what you are doing.
>
> When interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer we had
> someone say that they thought that software RAID was "slick", that was the
> last thing he said that I heard.
>
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> +---+
> Kevin Flanagan
> C/S Planning Engineer III
> I/T Implementation Department
> Branch Banking & Trust Company
> 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116
> MC: 172-85-01-00
> Raleigh, NC  27604
> Voice: 919-716-6209
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:34 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> Thanks for the info.  I will see if I can do that.
> -Original Message-
> From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:23 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> volume sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of crashing at bad
times -
> I would personally do a raid array witha good hardware (Adaptec) raid
> controller.
>
>
> Jim Zangara, MCSE+I
> Special Projects Engineer
> Premiere Radio Networks
> A Division of Clear Channel Communications
> 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500
> Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
> Direct: (818) 461-8620
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> In my house there's this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so
> often I would flick it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call
> from a woman in Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration
>
>
> Cool.  So, I could cre

RE: Hard drive configuration

[Andrew Baker]

Truly mission critical = Hardware SCSI RAID controller

Not really mission critical = Hardware ATA RAID controller

Plain broke and someone else's data = Software RAID on a Workstation class
system.


- ASB

-Original Message-
From: RE Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hard drive configuration


If you truly have a "mission critical" application/data then push the
"hardware solution", on the other hand if you don't really need it...

now I'm up to $.04..

RE Young MCSE
Client Server System Engineering
Dallas, TX



- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration


That is very true and if I can't get the money to purchase a RAID
controller, software is the way I'll have to go.  Hopefully I will be able
to convince them and/or I'll have to use one of my tricks for staying under
the limit that requires approval. ;-)
-Original Message-
From: RE Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hard drive configuration


I have used softrware raid in hundreds of NT servers for years w/o problems,
it is there to use. if for example, there is no money in the buget for
hardware raid controllers, the reality is money is an issue.
 
My $.02..

RE Young MCSE

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration


That's too funny.  I do at least know Hardware RAID is better than Software
RAID.  And if NT will allow me to duplex, as it was suggested by someone
else, then that's probably what I'll do.
-Original Message-
From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration


I second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config depends on
what you are doing.  
 
When interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer we had
someone say that they thought that software RAID was "slick", that was the
last thing he said that I heard.  
 
 
 
 
Kevin



+---+ 
Kevin Flanagan 
C/S Planning Engineer III 
I/T Implementation Department 
Branch Banking & Trust Company 
3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 
MC: 172-85-01-00 
Raleigh, NC  27604 
Voice: 919-716-6209 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration


Thanks for the info.  I will see if I can do that.
-Original Message-
From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration


volume sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of crashing at bad times -
I would personally do a raid array witha good hardware (Adaptec) raid
controller.


Jim Zangara, MCSE+I 
Special Projects Engineer 
Premiere Radio Networks 
A Division of Clear Channel Communications 
15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 
Direct: (818) 461-8620 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


In my house there's this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so
often I would flick it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call
from a woman in Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration


Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them as one volume so I don't have to give
each drive a drive letter and then mirror that volume to the other three
drives?
-Original Message-
From: Eric Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration


Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows does not care if they are
on one controller (mirroring) or on two controllers (duplexing)
Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE 
Technical Systems Analyst 
3D Computer Services Ltd. 
Edmonton, Alberta 
(780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
URL www.3dcomp.com 
 -Original Message- 
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:58 PM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject:Hard drive configuration 
I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate ST39175LW drives on 2 
Adaptec controllers in a duplexed configuration.  We are going to rebuild 
the server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can mirror the drives in a duplexed 
configuration like the one we currentl

RE: Hard drive configuration

[Andrew Baker]

Title: Message



The 
rule in technology is that either MONEY will be spent, or both TIME and 
MONEY.
 
If 
there is no money in the budget for hardware RAID controllers, you will soon 
find it necessary to find money for Data Recovery Services.
 
 
- ASB
 

  -Original Message-From: RE Young 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 
  1:38 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Hard drive 
  configuration
  I have used softrware raid in hundreds of NT 
  servers for years w/o problems, it is there to use. if for example, there is 
  no money in the buget for hardware raid controllers, the reality is money is 
  an issue.
   
  My $.02..
   
  RE Young MCSE
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:50 
AM
Subject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration

That's too funny.  I do at least know Hardware 
RAID is better than Software RAID.  And if NT will allow me to duplex, 
as it was suggested by someone else, then that's probably what I'll 
do.

  -Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
  I second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config 
  depends on what you are doing.  
   
  When interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer we 
  had someone say that they thought that software RAID was "slick", that was 
  the last thing he said that I heard.  
   
   
   
   
  Kevin
   
  +---+ 
  Kevin Flanagan 
  C/S Planning Engineer 
  III I/T 
  Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust Company 
  3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 
  116 MC: 
  172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:34 PMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
Thanks for the info.  I will see if I can 
do that.

  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 
  29, 2001 4:23 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  volume sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of 
  crashing at bad times - I would personally do a raid array witha good 
  hardware (Adaptec) raid controller.
   
   
  Jim Zangara, MCSE+I 
  Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio 
  Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 
  15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 
  91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  In my house 
  there's this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often I 
  would flick it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call from 
  a woman in Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 
  
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them as 
one volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter and 
then mirror that volume to the other three 
drives?

  -Original Message-From: Eric 
  Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:06 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows 
  does not care if they are on one controller (mirroring) or on two 
  controllers (duplexing)
  Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D 
  Computer Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta 
  (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 
  e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  URL www.3dcomp.com 
   -Original Message- From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent:   Wednesday, August 29, 
  2001 4:58 PM To: 
      NT System Admin Issues Subject:    Hard 
  drive configuration 
  I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate 
  ST39175LW drives on 2 Adaptec controllers 
  in a duplexed configuration.  We are go

RE: Hard drive configuration

[MJohnston]

Title: Message



Or we 
try to get them to bill us for something that's over the limit that needs 
approval on two or more invoices so that all of them are under the limit. 
;-)

  -Original Message-From: perezgg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:25 
  AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  
  Well If you cant convince them, call your vendor and ask them to 
  pad your next couple of purchases, so you can decrease the cost of a Raid 
  controller. Most company’s are more than willing to 
  purchase stupid things and try and save money on what really counts. It’s a 
  little on the shady side but sometimes you do what you have to 
  do
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:50 
  PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard 
  drive configuration
   
  
  That is 
  very true and if I can't get the money to purchase a RAID 
  controller, software is the way I'll have to go.  Hopefully I will 
  be able to convince them and/or I'll have to use one of my tricks for staying 
  under the limit that requires approval. ;-)
  
-Original 
Message-From: RE Young 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:38 
AMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: Re: Hard 
    drive configuration

I have used softrware raid in 
hundreds of NT servers for years w/o problems, it is there to use. if for 
example, there is no money in the buget for hardware raid controllers, the 
reality is money is an issue.

 

My 
$.02..

 

RE Young 
MCSE

 

  
  - Original 
  Message - 
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  
  
  Sent: 
  Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:50 AM
  
  Subject: RE: 
  Hard drive configuration
  
   
  
  That's too 
  funny.  I do at least know Hardware RAID is better than Software 
  RAID.  And if NT will allow me to duplex, as it was suggested by 
  someone else, then that's probably what I'll 
  do.
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 
2001 4:48 
AMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: 
Hard drive configuration

I second this, 
only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config depends on what you are 
doing.  

 

When 
interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer we had 
someone say that they thought that software RAID was "slick", that was 
the last thing he said that I heard.  


 

 

 

 

Kevin

 
 
+---+ 
Kevin Flanagan 
C/S Planning Engineer 
III I/T Implementation 
Department Branch Banking & Trust 
Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 
116 MC: 
172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  
27604 Voice: 
919-716-6209 

  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 
  7:34 PMTo: NT System 
      Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: Hard drive configuration
  
  Thanks for 
  the info.  I will see if I can do 
  that.
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 
2001 4:23 PMTo: NT 
    System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration

volume sets are 
notoriously bad - they have a way of crashing at bad times - I would 
personally do a raid array witha good hardware (Adaptec) raid 
controller.

 

 
Jim 
Zangara, MCSE+I Special Projects Engineer 
Premiere Radio 
Networks A 
Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 
Sherman Oaks, CA 
91403 Direct: 
(818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

In 
my house there's this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every 
so often I would flick it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got 
a call from a woman in Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven 
Wright 

  -Original 
  Messag

RE: Hard drive configuration

[perezgg]

Title: Message









Well If you cant
convince them, call your vendor and ask them to pad your next couple of
purchases, so you can decrease the cost of a Raid controller. Most company’s are more than willing to purchase stupid
things and try and save money on what really counts. It’s a little on the
shady side but sometimes you do what you have to do

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001
1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard drive
configuration

 



That is very true and if
I can't get the money to purchase a RAID controller, software is the way
I'll have to go.  Hopefully I will be able to convince them and/or I'll
have to use one of my tricks for staying under the limit that requires approval.
;-)





-Original Message-
From: RE Young
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001
10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hard drive
configuration



I have used softrware raid in
hundreds of NT servers for years w/o problems, it is there to use. if for
example, there is no money in the buget for hardware raid controllers, the
reality is money is an issue.





 





My $.02..





 





RE Young MCSE





 







- Original Message - 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






To: NT System Admin Issues 





Sent: Thursday,
August 30, 2001 10:50 AM





Subject: RE: Hard
drive configuration





 





That's too funny.  I
do at least know Hardware RAID is better than Software RAID.  And if NT
will allow me to duplex, as it was suggested by someone else, then that's
probably what I'll do.





-Original Message-
From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard drive
configuration



I second this, only ever
use Hardware RAID, which RAID config depends on what you are doing.  





 





When interviewing folks
for an open position at my last employer we had someone say that they thought
that software RAID was "slick", that was the last thing he said that
I heard.  





 





 





 





 





Kevin





 





 

+---+

Kevin
Flanagan 
C/S
Planning Engineer III 
I/T
Implementation Department 
Branch
Banking & Trust Company 
3261
Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 
MC:
172-85-01-00 
Raleigh,
NC  27604 
Voice:
919-716-6209 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001
7:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard drive
configuration



Thanks for the
info.  I will see if I can do that.





-Original Message-
From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001
4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard drive
configuration



volume sets are notoriously bad -
they have a way of crashing at bad times - I would personally do a raid array witha
good hardware (Adaptec) raid controller.





 





 



Jim Zangara, MCSE+I 
Special Projects Engineer 
Premiere Radio Networks 
A Division of Clear Channel Communications

15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 
Direct: (818) 461-8620 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 



In my house there's this light switch that doesn't do anything.
Every so often I would flick it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a
call from a woman in Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven
Wright 





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001
4:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard drive
configuration



Cool.  So, I could
create 3 of them as one volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive
letter and then mirror that volume to the other three drives?





-Original Message-
From: Eric Wittenberg
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001
4:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard drive
configuration

Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows does
not care if they are on one controller (mirroring) or on two controllers
(duplexing)

Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE 
Technical Systems Analyst 
3D Computer Services Ltd. 
Edmonton, Alberta 
(780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
URL www.3dcomp.com 

 -Original Message- 
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, August
29, 2001 4:58 PM 
To: NT
System Admin Issues 
Subject:   
Hard drive configuration 

I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate
ST39175LW drives on 2 
Adaptec controllers in a duplexed
configuration.  We are going to rebuild 
the server as NT 4.0.  I don't
think NT can mirror the drives in a duplexed 
configuration like the one we
currently have.  Am I wrong.  If not, what 
would be the best configuration for
the drives.  I was thinking

RE: Hard drive configuration

[Malcolm Reitz]

Title: Message



Michelle,
 
Like 
you, I came to NT from a Netware background. You are talking about just 
what we did with Netware - mirror volumes. And no, you can't do that with 
NT.
 
Malcolm   

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  August 29, 2001 6:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive configuration
  Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them as one 
  volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter and then mirror that 
  volume to the other three drives?
  
-Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 
4:06 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard 
drive configuration
Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows does not 
care if they are on one controller (mirroring) or on two controllers 
(duplexing)
Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer 
Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 e-mail 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com 

 -Original Message- From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:58 
PM To: NT System Admin 
Issues Subject:    Hard drive 
configuration 
I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate ST39175LW 
drives on 2 Adaptec controllers in a duplexed 
configuration.  We are going to rebuild the 
server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can mirror the drives in a 
duplexed configuration like the one we currently 
have.  Am I wrong.  If not, what would be 
the best configuration for the drives.  I was thinking of adding 
a single drive on the build-in controller for the OS 
and using the other 6 for data storage.  I'm 
just not sure how I should configure the other drives. 
Thanks, Michelle 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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RE: Hard drive configuration

[MJohnston]

Title: Message



Good 
idea. Thanks.

  -Original Message-From: Kevin Lundy 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 
  10:52 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard 
  drive configuration
  Try 
  a ROI calculation.  HW Raid controllers aren't as expensive as they used 
  to be.  One of the big advantages of HW raid is real time recovery - you 
  can access the data while the system is rebuilding.  So for the software 
  rebuild, figure out how expensive it is for the server and data to be 
  offline.  Compare raid controller cost to expense of data off 
  line.
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:50 
PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
That is very true and if I can't get the money to 
purchase a RAID controller, software is the way I'll have to go.  
Hopefully I will be able to convince them and/or I'll have to use one of my 
tricks for staying under the limit that requires approval. 
;-)

  -Original Message-From: RE Young 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 
  2001 10:38 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: 
  Hard drive configuration
  I have used softrware raid in hundreds of NT 
  servers for years w/o problems, it is there to use. if for example, there 
  is no money in the buget for hardware raid controllers, the reality is 
  money is an issue.
   
  My $.02..
   
  RE Young MCSE
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 
10:50 AM
    Subject: RE: Hard drive 
    configuration

That's too funny.  I do at least know 
Hardware RAID is better than Software RAID.  And if NT will allow 
me to duplex, as it was suggested by someone else, then that's probably 
what I'll do.

  -Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  I second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config 
  depends on what you are doing.  
   
  When interviewing folks for an open position at my last 
  employer we had someone say that they thought that software RAID was 
  "slick", that was the last thing he said that I heard.  
  
   
   
   
   
  Kevin
   
  +---+ 
  Kevin 
  Flanagan C/S Planning Engineer III I/T Implementation 
  Department Branch Banking & Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 
  116 MC: 
  172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 
  
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:34 PMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
Thanks for the info.  I will see if I 
can do that.

  -Original Message-From: 
  Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:23 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  volume sets are notoriously bad - they have a way 
  of crashing at bad times - I would personally do a raid array 
  witha good hardware (Adaptec) raid 
  controller.
   
   
  Jim Zangara, 
  MCSE+I Special Projects Engineer Premiere 
  Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel 
  Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 
  Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 
  461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  In my house 
  there's this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often 
  I would flick it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call 
  from a woman in Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 
  
  

-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 
29, 2001 4:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
Cool.  So, I could create 3 of 
them as one volume s

Re: Hard drive configuration

[RE Young]

Title: Message



If you truly have a "mission critical" 
application/data then push the "hardware solution", on the other hand if you 
don't really need it...
 
now I'm up to $.04..
 

RE Young MCSE
Client Server System Engineering
Dallas, TX
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:50 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  
  That 
  is very true and if I can't get the money to purchase a RAID 
  controller, software is the way I'll have to go.  Hopefully I will 
  be able to convince them and/or I'll have to use one of my tricks for staying 
  under the limit that requires approval. ;-)
  
-Original Message-From: RE Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:38 AMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: Re: Hard drive configuration
I have used softrware raid in hundreds of NT 
servers for years w/o problems, it is there to use. if for example, there is 
no money in the buget for hardware raid controllers, the reality is money is 
an issue.
 
My $.02..
 
RE Young MCSE
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:50 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  
  That's too funny.  I do at least know 
  Hardware RAID is better than Software RAID.  And if NT will allow me 
  to duplex, as it was suggested by someone else, then that's probably what 
  I'll do.
  
-Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AMTo: NT System Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
I second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config 
depends on what you are doing.  
 
When interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer 
we had someone say that they thought that software RAID was "slick", 
that was the last thing he said that I heard.  
 
 
 
 
Kevin
 
+---+ 
Kevin 
Flanagan C/S 
Planning Engineer III I/T Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust 
Company 3261 
Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 MC: 172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  27604 
Voice: 
919-716-6209 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:34 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  Thanks for the info.  I will see if I 
  can do that.
  
-Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
August 29, 2001 4:23 PMTo: NT System Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
volume sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of 
crashing at bad times - I would personally do a raid array witha 
good hardware (Adaptec) raid 
controller.
 
 
Jim Zangara, 
MCSE+I Special Projects Engineer Premiere 
Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel 
Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

In my house 
there's this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often I 
would flick it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call 
from a woman in Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 


  
  -Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 
  2001 4:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them 
  as one volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter 
  and then mirror that volume to the other three 
  drives?
  
-Original Message-From: 
Eric Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
    Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:06 PMTo: NT System Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. 
Windows does not care if they are on one controller (mirroring) 
  

RE: Hard drive configuration

[Zangara, Jim]

Title: Message



I prefer 
hardware because then the raid overhead is not taking my servers memory or 
processor cycles.  Have used Software when I HAD to but I always to to go 
for best case in my recommendations.
 
 
Jim Zangara, MCSE+I 
Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A 
Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 
500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Do not take life too 
seriously; you will never get out of it alive. 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 
  August 30, 2001 10:50 AMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive configuration
  That 
  is very true and if I can't get the money to purchase a RAID 
  controller, software is the way I'll have to go.  Hopefully I will 
  be able to convince them and/or I'll have to use one of my tricks for staying 
  under the limit that requires approval. ;-)
  
-Original Message-From: RE Young 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 
2001 10:38 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: 
Hard drive configuration
I have used softrware raid in hundreds of NT 
servers for years w/o problems, it is there to use. if for example, there is 
no money in the buget for hardware raid controllers, the reality is money is 
an issue.
 
My $.02..
 
RE Young MCSE
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: NT System Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:50 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  
  That's too funny.  I do at least know 
  Hardware RAID is better than Software RAID.  And if NT will allow me 
  to duplex, as it was suggested by someone else, then that's probably what 
  I'll do.
  
-Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
I second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config 
depends on what you are doing.  
 
When interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer 
we had someone say that they thought that software RAID was "slick", 
that was the last thing he said that I heard.  
 
 
 
 
Kevin
 
+---+ 
Kevin 
Flanagan C/S 
Planning Engineer III I/T Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust 
Company 3261 
Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 MC: 172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  27604 
Voice: 
919-716-6209 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:34 PMTo: NT System Admin 
      IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  Thanks for the info.  I will see if I 
  can do that.
  
-Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
August 29, 2001 4:23 PMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
volume sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of 
crashing at bad times - I would personally do a raid array witha 
good hardware (Adaptec) raid 
controller.
 
 
Jim Zangara, 
MCSE+I Special Projects Engineer Premiere 
Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel 
Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

In my house 
there's this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often I 
would flick it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call 
from a woman in Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 


  
  -Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 
  2001 4:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them 
  as one volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter 
  and then mirror that volume to the other three 
  drives?
  
-Original Message-From: 
Eric Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:06

RE: Hard drive configuration

[Kevin Lundy]

Title: Message



Try a 
ROI calculation.  HW Raid controllers aren't as expensive as they used to 
be.  One of the big advantages of HW raid is real time recovery - you can 
access the data while the system is rebuilding.  So for the software 
rebuild, figure out how expensive it is for the server and data to be 
offline.  Compare raid controller cost to expense of data off 
line.

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:50 
  PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  That 
  is very true and if I can't get the money to purchase a RAID 
  controller, software is the way I'll have to go.  Hopefully I will 
  be able to convince them and/or I'll have to use one of my tricks for staying 
  under the limit that requires approval. ;-)
  
-Original Message-From: RE Young 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 
2001 10:38 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: 
Hard drive configuration
I have used softrware raid in hundreds of NT 
servers for years w/o problems, it is there to use. if for example, there is 
no money in the buget for hardware raid controllers, the reality is money is 
an issue.
 
My $.02..
 
RE Young MCSE
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: NT System Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:50 
  AM
      Subject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  
  That's too funny.  I do at least know 
  Hardware RAID is better than Software RAID.  And if NT will allow me 
  to duplex, as it was suggested by someone else, then that's probably what 
  I'll do.
  
-Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
I second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config 
depends on what you are doing.  
 
When interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer 
we had someone say that they thought that software RAID was "slick", 
that was the last thing he said that I heard.  
 
 
 
 
Kevin
 
+---+ 
Kevin 
Flanagan C/S 
Planning Engineer III I/T Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust 
Company 3261 
Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 MC: 172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  27604 
Voice: 
919-716-6209 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:34 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  Thanks for the info.  I will see if I 
  can do that.
  
-Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
August 29, 2001 4:23 PMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
volume sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of 
crashing at bad times - I would personally do a raid array witha 
good hardware (Adaptec) raid 
controller.
 
 
Jim Zangara, 
MCSE+I Special Projects Engineer Premiere 
Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel 
Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

In my house 
there's this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often I 
would flick it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call 
from a woman in Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 


  
  -Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 
      2001 4:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
      IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them 
  as one volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter 
  and then mirror that volume to the other three 
  drives?
  
-Original Message-From: 
Eric Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:06 PMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
Duplexing to N

RE: Hard drive configuration

[MJohnston]

Title: Message



That 
is very true and if I can't get the money to purchase a RAID 
controller, software is the way I'll have to go.  Hopefully I will be 
able to convince them and/or I'll have to use one of my tricks for staying under 
the limit that requires approval. ;-)

  -Original Message-From: RE Young 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 
  10:38 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Hard 
  drive configuration
  I have used softrware raid in hundreds of NT 
  servers for years w/o problems, it is there to use. if for example, there is 
  no money in the buget for hardware raid controllers, the reality is money is 
  an issue.
   
  My $.02..
   
  RE Young MCSE
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:50 
AM
    Subject: RE: Hard drive 
    configuration

That's too funny.  I do at least know Hardware 
RAID is better than Software RAID.  And if NT will allow me to duplex, 
as it was suggested by someone else, then that's probably what I'll 
do.

  -Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
  I second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config 
  depends on what you are doing.  
   
  When interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer we 
  had someone say that they thought that software RAID was "slick", that was 
  the last thing he said that I heard.  
   
   
   
   
  Kevin
   
  +---+ 
  Kevin Flanagan 
  C/S Planning Engineer 
  III I/T 
  Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust Company 
  3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 
  116 MC: 
  172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:34 PMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
Thanks for the info.  I will see if I can 
do that.

  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 
  29, 2001 4:23 PMTo: NT System Admin 
      IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  volume sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of 
  crashing at bad times - I would personally do a raid array witha good 
  hardware (Adaptec) raid controller.
   
   
  Jim Zangara, MCSE+I 
  Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio 
  Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 
  15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 
  91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  In my house 
  there's this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often I 
  would flick it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call from 
  a woman in Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 
  
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them as 
one volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter and 
then mirror that volume to the other three 
drives?

  -Original Message-From: Eric 
  Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:06 PMTo: NT System Admin 
      IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows 
  does not care if they are on one controller (mirroring) or on two 
  controllers (duplexing)
  Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D 
  Computer Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta 
  (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 
  e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  URL www.3dcomp.com 
   -Original Message- From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent:   Wednesday, August 29, 
  2001 4:58 PM To: 
  NT System Admin Issues Subject:    Hard 
  drive configuration 
  I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate 
  ST39175LW drives on 2 Adaptec controllers 
  in 

Re: Hard drive configuration

[RE Young]

Title: Message



I have used softrware raid in hundreds of NT 
servers for years w/o problems, it is there to use. if for example, there is no 
money in the buget for hardware raid controllers, the reality is money is an 
issue.
 
My $.02..
 
RE Young MCSE
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:50 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  
  That's too funny.  I do at least know Hardware 
  RAID is better than Software RAID.  And if NT will allow me to duplex, as 
  it was suggested by someone else, then that's probably what I'll 
  do.
  
-Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 AMTo: NT System Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive configuration
I 
second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config depends on what 
you are doing.  
 
When interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer we 
had someone say that they thought that software RAID was "slick", that was 
the last thing he said that I heard.  
 
 
 
 
Kevin
 
+---+ 
Kevin Flanagan 
C/S Planning Engineer 
III I/T 
Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 
116 MC: 
172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  August 29, 2001 7:34 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
  Thanks for the info.  I will see if I can do 
  that.
  
-Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 
29, 2001 4:23 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: 
    RE: Hard drive configuration
volume sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of 
crashing at bad times - I would personally do a raid array witha good 
hardware (Adaptec) raid controller.
 
 
Jim Zangara, MCSE+I 
Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks 
A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 
Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 
Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

In my house there's 
this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often I would flick 
it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call from a woman in 
Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them as 
  one volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter and then 
  mirror that volume to the other three drives?
  
-Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 
29, 2001 4:06 PMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows 
does not care if they are on one controller (mirroring) or on two 
controllers (duplexing)
Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer 
Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta 
(780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
URL www.3dcomp.com 
 -Original Message- From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, August 29, 2001 
4:58 PM To:     NT 
System Admin Issues Subject:    Hard drive 
configuration 
I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate 
ST39175LW drives on 2 Adaptec controllers in 
a duplexed configuration.  We are going to rebuild 
the server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can 
mirror the drives in a duplexed configuration like the one we currently have.  Am I 
wrong.  If not, what would be the best 
configuration for the drives.  I was thinking of adding 
a single drive on the build-in controller 
for the OS and using the other 6 for data 
storage.  I'm just not sure how I should configure the other 
drives. 
Thanks, Michelle 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm 
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RE: Hard drive configuration

[MJohnston]

Title: Message



That's 
too funny.  I do at least know Hardware RAID is better than Software 
RAID.  And if NT will allow me to duplex, as it was suggested by someone 
else, then that's probably what I'll do.

  -Original Message-From: Flanagan, Kevin 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:48 
  AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  I 
  second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config depends on what 
  you are doing.  
   
  When 
  interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer we had someone say 
  that they thought that software RAID was "slick", that was the last thing he 
  said that I heard.  
   
   
   
   
  Kevin
   
  +---+ 
  Kevin Flanagan 
  C/S Planning Engineer 
  III I/T 
  Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 
  116 MC: 
  172-85-01-00 Raleigh, NC  27604 Voice: 919-716-6209 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
August 29, 2001 7:34 PMTo: NT System Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive configuration
Thanks for the info.  I will see if I can do 
that.

  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 
  2001 4:23 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Hard drive configuration
  volume 
  sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of crashing at bad times - I 
  would personally do a raid array witha good hardware (Adaptec) raid 
  controller.
   
   
  Jim Zangara, MCSE+I 
  Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks 
  A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura 
  Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 
  461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  In my house there's 
  this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often I would flick 
  it on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call from a woman in 
  Germany. She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them as one 
volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter and then mirror 
that volume to the other three drives?

  -Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 
  2001 4:06 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: Hard drive configuration
  Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows does 
  not care if they are on one controller (mirroring) or on two 
  controllers (duplexing)
  Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer 
  Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta 
  (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 
  e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com 
   -Original Message- From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent:   Wednesday, August 29, 2001 
  4:58 PM To:     NT System 
      Admin Issues Subject:    Hard drive 
  configuration 
  I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate 
  ST39175LW drives on 2 Adaptec controllers in a 
  duplexed configuration.  We are going to rebuild the server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can mirror the 
  drives in a duplexed configuration like the 
  one we currently have.  Am I wrong.  If not, what 
  would be the best configuration for the drives.  
  I was thinking of adding a single drive on the 
  build-in controller for the OS and using the other 6 for 
  data storage.  I'm just not sure how I should 
  configure the other drives. 
  Thanks, Michelle 
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RE: Hard drive configuration

[MJohnston]

It will simply be data storage for our production department - GBs of crap,
I mean, very important files.  I'll check out your link.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Hard drive configuration


>>If not, what would be the best
>>configuration for the drives.

What will the machine be doing?

See the following:
 http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=ServerSpecs.TXT



>>I was thinking of adding a single drive
>>on the build-in controller for the OS and
>>using the other 6 for data storage.

Why deliberately introduce a single point of failure into a system
that also has duplexed drives?



==
 ASB - http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT
==
 "All generalizations are bad."



>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:58 PM
>To: NT System Admin Issues
>Subject: Hard drive configuration
>
>
>I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate ST39175LW
>drives on 2
>Adaptec controllers in a duplexed configuration.  We are
>going to rebuild
>the server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can mirror the
>drives in a duplexed
>configuration like the one we currently have.  Am I wrong.
>If not, what
>would be the best configuration for the drives.  I was
>thinking of adding a
>single drive on the build-in controller for the OS and using
>the other 6 for
>data storage.  I'm just not sure how I should configure the
>other drives.
>
>Thanks, Michelle
>

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RE: Hard drive configuration

[Flanagan, Kevin]

Title: Message



I 
second this, only ever use Hardware RAID, which RAID config depends on what you 
are doing.  
 
When 
interviewing folks for an open position at my last employer we had someone say 
that they thought that software RAID was "slick", that was the last thing he 
said that I heard.  
 
 
 
 
Kevin
 
+---+ 
Kevin Flanagan 
C/S Planning Engineer 
III I/T 
Implementation Department Branch Banking & Trust Company 3261 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 116 
MC: 172-85-01-00 
Raleigh, NC  
27604 Voice: 
919-716-6209 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  August 29, 2001 7:34 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive configuration
  Thanks for the info.  I will see if I can do 
  that.
  
-Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 
2001 4:23 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
    Hard drive configuration
volume 
sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of crashing at bad times - I 
would personally do a raid array witha good hardware (Adaptec) raid 
controller.
 
 
Jim Zangara, MCSE+I 
Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks 
A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura 
Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 
461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

In my house there's 
this light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often I would flick it 
on and off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call from a woman in Germany. 
She said, "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  August 29, 2001 4:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
      IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
configuration
  Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them as one 
  volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter and then mirror 
  that volume to the other three drives?
  
-Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 
2001 4:06 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Hard drive configuration
Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows does 
not care if they are on one controller (mirroring) or on two controllers 
(duplexing)
Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer 
Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 e-mail 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com 

 -Original Message- From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, August 29, 2001 
4:58 PM To: NT System 
    Admin Issues Subject:    Hard drive 
configuration 
I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate 
ST39175LW drives on 2 Adaptec controllers in a 
duplexed configuration.  We are going to rebuild the server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can mirror the 
drives in a duplexed configuration like the one 
we currently have.  Am I wrong.  If not, what would be the best configuration for the drives.  I was 
thinking of adding a single drive on the 
build-in controller for the OS and using the other 6 for 
data storage.  I'm just not sure how I should 
configure the other drives. 
Thanks, Michelle 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm 
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RE: Hard drive configuration

[Andrew S. Baker]

>>If not, what would be the best
>>configuration for the drives.

What will the machine be doing?

See the following:
 http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=ServerSpecs.TXT



>>I was thinking of adding a single drive
>>on the build-in controller for the OS and
>>using the other 6 for data storage.

Why deliberately introduce a single point of failure into a system
that also has duplexed drives?



==
 ASB - http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT
==
 "All generalizations are bad."



>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:58 PM
>To: NT System Admin Issues
>Subject: Hard drive configuration
>
>
>I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate ST39175LW
>drives on 2
>Adaptec controllers in a duplexed configuration.  We are
>going to rebuild
>the server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can mirror the
>drives in a duplexed
>configuration like the one we currently have.  Am I wrong.
>If not, what
>would be the best configuration for the drives.  I was
>thinking of adding a
>single drive on the build-in controller for the OS and using
>the other 6 for
>data storage.  I'm just not sure how I should configure the
>other drives.
>
>Thanks, Michelle
>


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RE: Hard drive configuration

[MJohnston]

Title: Message



Thanks 
for the info.  I will see if I can do that.

  -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 
  4:23 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  volume 
  sets are notoriously bad - they have a way of crashing at bad times - I would 
  personally do a raid array witha good hardware (Adaptec) raid 
  controller.
   
   
  Jim Zangara, MCSE+I 
  Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks 
  A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura 
  Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 
  461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  In my house there's this 
  light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often I would flick it on and 
  off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call from a woman in Germany. She said, 
  "Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
August 29, 2001 4:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
    IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive configuration
Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them as one 
volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter and then mirror 
that volume to the other three drives?

  -Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 
  4:06 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard 
  drive configuration
  Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows does not 
  care if they are on one controller (mirroring) or on two controllers 
  (duplexing)
  Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer 
  Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 e-mail 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com 
  
   -Original Message- From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent:   Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:58 
  PM To: NT System Admin 
  Issues Subject:    Hard drive 
  configuration 
  I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate ST39175LW 
  drives on 2 Adaptec controllers in a duplexed 
  configuration.  We are going to rebuild the 
  server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can mirror the drives in a 
  duplexed configuration like the one we currently 
  have.  Am I wrong.  If not, what would 
  be the best configuration for the drives.  I was thinking of adding 
  a single drive on the build-in controller for the 
  OS and using the other 6 for data storage.  
  I'm just not sure how I should configure the other drives. 
  Thanks, Michelle 
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RE: Hard drive configuration

[Zangara, Jim]

Title: Message



volume sets 
are notoriously bad - they have a way of crashing at bad times - I would 
personally do a raid array witha good hardware (Adaptec) raid 
controller.
 
 
Jim Zangara, MCSE+I 
Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A 
Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 
500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

In my house there's this 
light switch that doesn't do anything. Every so often I would flick it on and 
off just to check. Yesterday, I got a call from a woman in Germany. She said, 
"Cut it out." -- Steven Wright 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  August 29, 2001 4:19 PMTo: NT System Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive configuration
  Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them as one 
  volume so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter and then mirror that 
  volume to the other three drives?
  
-Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 
4:06 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard 
drive configuration
Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows does not 
care if they are on one controller (mirroring) or on two controllers 
(duplexing)
Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer 
Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 e-mail 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com 

 -Original Message- From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:58 
PM To: NT System Admin 
    Issues Subject:    Hard drive 
configuration 
I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate ST39175LW 
drives on 2 Adaptec controllers in a duplexed 
configuration.  We are going to rebuild the 
server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can mirror the drives in a 
duplexed configuration like the one we currently 
have.  Am I wrong.  If not, what would be 
the best configuration for the drives.  I was thinking of adding 
a single drive on the build-in controller for the OS 
and using the other 6 for data storage.  I'm 
just not sure how I should configure the other drives. 
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RE: Hard drive configuration

[MJohnston]

Title: RE: Hard drive configuration



Cool.  So, I could create 3 of them as one volume 
so I don't have to give each drive a drive letter and then mirror that volume to 
the other three drives?

  -Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 
  4:06 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Hard drive 
  configuration
  Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows does not 
  care if they are on one controller (mirroring) or on two controllers 
  (duplexing)
  Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer Services 
  Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 e-mail 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com 
   -Original Message- From: 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent:   Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:58 
  PM To: NT System Admin 
  Issues Subject:    Hard drive 
  configuration 
  I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate ST39175LW 
  drives on 2 Adaptec controllers in a duplexed 
  configuration.  We are going to rebuild the 
  server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can mirror the drives in a 
  duplexed configuration like the one we currently 
  have.  Am I wrong.  If not, what would be 
  the best configuration for the drives.  I was thinking of adding a 
  single drive on the build-in controller for the OS and using 
  the other 6 for data storage.  I'm just not sure 
  how I should configure the other drives. 
  Thanks, Michelle 
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RE: Hard drive configuration

[Eric Wittenberg]

Title: RE: Hard drive configuration





Duplexing to NT is the same as mirroring. Windows does not care if they are on one controller (mirroring) or on two controllers (duplexing)

Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE 
Technical Systems Analyst 
3D Computer Services Ltd. 
Edmonton, Alberta 
(780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
URL www.3dcomp.com


 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject:    Hard drive configuration


I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate ST39175LW drives on 2
Adaptec controllers in a duplexed configuration.  We are going to rebuild
the server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can mirror the drives in a duplexed
configuration like the one we currently have.  Am I wrong.  If not, what
would be the best configuration for the drives.  I was thinking of adding a
single drive on the build-in controller for the OS and using the other 6 for
data storage.  I'm just not sure how I should configure the other drives.


Thanks, Michelle



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Hard drive configuration

[MJohnston]

I currently have a NetWare server with 6 Seagate ST39175LW drives on 2
Adaptec controllers in a duplexed configuration.  We are going to rebuild
the server as NT 4.0.  I don't think NT can mirror the drives in a duplexed
configuration like the one we currently have.  Am I wrong.  If not, what
would be the best configuration for the drives.  I was thinking of adding a
single drive on the build-in controller for the OS and using the other 6 for
data storage.  I'm just not sure how I should configure the other drives.

Thanks, Michelle


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