BTW, I am very happy with my current employer's solution. They are running EMC Networker and from the Exchange server perspective it works seemlessly, even with our 8 node Exchange 2k3 cluster.. :) EMC still hasn't resolved an issue where it fails to restore to a RSG, but nothing that failing-over to a passive node hasn't resolved.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Steven Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From the docs, I think their clustering solutions are less then > optimal and are a hodgepodge of 'ya it works if you do 30 line > install' but their docs are pretty much only for active/passive > clusters. Not three or four server clusters. > > I imagine our dedicated storage team is on such lists. I stay as far > as possible. Unfortunately some times yo have to interact with the > backup systems. > > Steven > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow. Definitely not our experience. Sorry to hear that. > > > > Of course, we don't have clustered anything. > > > > BTW, just in case you're not aware of it, there's a TSM listserv - I'm > > not at work at the moment, but remind me tomorrow, and I'll shoot you > > the address if you want. There's some really good folks on that list. > > I think you'll find they're quite helpful. > > > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Steven Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Umm.. NO, it is not. It sucks. > >> > >> It does do what it's supposed to eventually, but frankly getting it to > >> do it right or applying the inevitable client upgrades is always a > >> challenge. When something isn't working right the logs/alerts fail to > >> properly identify the problem, the answers from support can be vague, > >> unhelpful and downright random at times. (Asking for support on an > >> Exchange cluster results in documentation for a SQL cluster, requests > >> and finally demands to get the right documentation resulted in the > >> Exchange docs (and a non-Tivoli link) and the comment that running SQL > >> and Exchange on the same box wasn't recommended but we could try it > >> and let them know. Argggg! > >> > >> A dedicated backup team, over 1,000 Windows servers and a few hundred > >> Unix flavors and a mainframe environment or two. I really do not like > >> the product at all. > >> > >> Steven Peck > >> http://www.blkmtn.org > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> That depends on your environment. For a large shop, with staff large > >>> enough so that several are dedicated specifically to > >>> backup/restore/DR/BC/etc., TSM is probably an excellent fit. > >>> > >>> It's much too large and complex for shops of lesser capability, IMHO - > >>> yet, we use it, and get by with it, and have for about 8 years - it > >>> predates my tenure in this position. > >>> > >>> I respect the software, but would switch in a heartbeat, except for two > things: > >>> > >>> 1) the cost to continue using is is ridiculously low - maintenance is > >>> something like $200/year for the 10 or so servers we use it for - that > >>> makes the cost of switching to something else much less attractive. > >>> > >>> 2) Support is actually pretty good - we've called many times, asking > >>> for bits of information, and have gotten answers in a reasonable > >>> amount of time, with no attitude. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>>> "that product is a major PIA to administer" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> And, the fact that that has held true for over 15 years and has never > >>>> improved is sad testament to the product. Tivoli was created for the > >>>> consulting industry – not for the regular Admin. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> From: Eric Woodford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:10 PM > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues > >>>> Subject: Re: WMI Query > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> FYI: > >>>> > >>>> "Wscript.echo" is a command to echo (or display) the information that > comes > >>>> after it. > >>>> > >>>> I think you more want to do an IF statement. > >>>> > >>>> If objItem.Name = "Tivoli Storage Manager" then > >>>> ' echo the contents to the screen > >>>> end if > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> BTW, Sorry about Tivoli, that product is a major PIA to administer. > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> That's closer. Trying to query to see if TSM is installed. Can I just > add > >>>> > >>>> Wscript.Echo "GroupName: " Tivoli Storage Manager > >>>> > >>>> To see if TSM is installed? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Original Message: > >>>> ----------------- > >>>> From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:18:19 -0400 > >>>> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > >>>> Subject: RE: WMI Query > >>>> > >>>> Eh, you probably mean something like this: > >>>> > >>>> On Error Resume Next > >>>> strComputers = Array ("Server1", "Server2", "Server3") > >>>> For i = LBound (strComputers) To UBound(strComputers) > >>>> strcomputer = strcomputers[i] > >>>> > >>>> Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\" & strComputer & > >>>> "\root\cimv2") > >>>> Set colItems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from > >>>> Win32_ProgramGroup",,48) > >>>> For Each objItem in colItems > >>>> Wscript.Echo "Caption: " & objItem.Caption > >>>> Wscript.Echo "Description: " & objItem.Description > >>>> Wscript.Echo "GroupName: " & objItem.GroupName > >>>> Wscript.Echo "Name: TSM & objItem.Name > >>>> Wscript.Echo "SettingID: " & objItem.SettingID > >>>> Wscript.Echo "UserName: " & objItem.UserName > >>>> Next > >>>> > >>>> set colItems = Nothing > >>>> set objWMIService = Nothing > >>>> Next > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Michael B. Smith > >>>> MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP > >>>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:12 PM > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues > >>>> Subject: WMI Query > >>>> > >>>> Looking for help with WMI query for an application (TSM). > >>>> > >>>> On Error Resume Next > >>>> strComputer = "Server1 > >>>> Server2 > >>>> Server3" > >>>> Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\" & strComputer & > "\root\cimv2") > >>>> Set colItems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from > >>>> Win32_ProgramGroup",,48) > >>>> For Each objItem in colItems > >>>> Wscript.Echo "Caption: " & objItem.Caption > >>>> Wscript.Echo "Description: " & objItem.Description > >>>> Wscript.Echo "GroupName: " & objItem.GroupName > >>>> Wscript.Echo "Name: TSM & objItem.Name > >>>> Wscript.Echo "SettingID: " & objItem.SettingID > >>>> Wscript.Echo "UserName: " & objItem.UserName > >>>> Next > >>>> > >>>> Can anyone help? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> > >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> mail2web LIVE - Free email based on MicrosoftR Exchange technology - > >>>> http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > >>>> > >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> mail2web - Check your email from the web at > >>>> http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > >>> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > >>> > >> > >> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > >> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > >> > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~
