RE: NSLookup - results are not as expected

2008-02-22 Thread Bryan Garmon
I should have mentioned that before - It's a long story, but the
169.254.X.Y. is by design. Yes, it also happens to match the APIPA
addressing, but that can't be helped and so the address are indeed coming
from the DHCP server and that part is working as expected. 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Semon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NSLookup - results are not as expected

That's not good. The 169.x.x.x address is coming from a Windows service
called APIPA (Automatic Private IP-addressing). APIPA is a service to
dynamically assign IP addresses to network clients when they can't reach the
DHCP server.

Mike
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NSLookup - results are not as expected

I'm losing hair on my head trying to understand what determines the order of
the IP addresses when they are listed in NSLookup?

For example when I run nslookup against my AD Domain name, I receive the
result:

Name: name.domain.com
Addresses: 169.254.0.152, 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151

What I am expecting to see is this:

Name: name.domain.com
Addresses: 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151, 169.254.0.152


How can the order be changed? 



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RE: NSLookup - results are not as expected

2008-02-22 Thread Bryan Garmon
Thanks to everyone who for confirming that the results can be returned in
any order, and that it shouldn't matter. I'll start troubleshooting a
different route and post with a new subject line.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NSLookup - results are not as expected

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Bryan Garmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I'm losing hair on my head trying to understand what determines the order
of
  the IP addresses when they are listed in NSLookup?

  The DNS specification says that if multiple RRs (Resource Records)
exist for a given domain name, they may be returned in any order.

  How can the order be changed?

  Short answer: It cannot.

-- Ben

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RE: NSLookup - results are not as expected

2008-02-22 Thread Bryan Garmon
Well, I keep getting the error message semaphore timeout expired or Name
no longer available on any machine that tries to join the domain. This was
the only thing I could find that appeared to be out of whack based on my
limited DNS knowledge. 



-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NSLookup - results are not as expected

scratches head

Why does it matter?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NSLookup - results are not as expected

I'm losing hair on my head trying to understand what determines the order of
the IP addresses when they are listed in NSLookup?

For example when I run nslookup against my AD Domain name, I receive the
result:

Name: name.domain.com
Addresses: 169.254.0.152, 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151

What I am expecting to see is this:

Name: name.domain.com
Addresses: 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151, 169.254.0.152


How can the order be changed? 



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NSLookup - results are not as expected

2008-02-21 Thread Bryan Garmon
I'm losing hair on my head trying to understand what determines the order of
the IP addresses when they are listed in NSLookup?

For example when I run nslookup against my AD Domain name, I receive the
result:

Name: name.domain.com
Addresses: 169.254.0.152, 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151

What I am expecting to see is this:

Name: name.domain.com
Addresses: 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151, 169.254.0.152


How can the order be changed? 



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RE: NSLookup - results are not as expected

2008-02-21 Thread Michael B. Smith
scratches head

Why does it matter?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NSLookup - results are not as expected

I'm losing hair on my head trying to understand what determines the order of
the IP addresses when they are listed in NSLookup?

For example when I run nslookup against my AD Domain name, I receive the
result:

Name: name.domain.com
Addresses: 169.254.0.152, 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151

What I am expecting to see is this:

Name: name.domain.com
Addresses: 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151, 169.254.0.152


How can the order be changed? 



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RE: NSLookup - results are not as expected

2008-02-21 Thread Mike Semon
That's not good. The 169.x.x.x address is coming from a Windows service
called APIPA (Automatic Private IP-addressing). APIPA is a service to
dynamically assign IP addresses to network clients when they can't reach the
DHCP server.

Mike
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NSLookup - results are not as expected

I'm losing hair on my head trying to understand what determines the order of
the IP addresses when they are listed in NSLookup?

For example when I run nslookup against my AD Domain name, I receive the
result:

Name: name.domain.com
Addresses: 169.254.0.152, 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151

What I am expecting to see is this:

Name: name.domain.com
Addresses: 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151, 169.254.0.152


How can the order be changed? 



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Re: NSLookup - results are not as expected

2008-02-21 Thread Phil Brutsche
I think it's more likely he sanitized the output ;)

Mike Semon wrote:
 That's not good. The 169.x.x.x address is coming from a Windows service
 called APIPA (Automatic Private IP-addressing).

-- 

Phil Brutsche
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: NSLookup - results are not as expected

2008-02-21 Thread Phil Brutsche
When you have multiple A resource records for a particular DNS name some
DNS servers return the results in a random order.

Microsoft's DNS service isn't one that randomizes the lookup results.

This is something you typically see when the name server (or the caching
name server) the client is pointing to is BIND on Linux/*BSD/some
commercial UNIX.

In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't make a difference.

Bryan Garmon wrote:
 I'm losing hair on my head trying to understand what determines the order of
 the IP addresses when they are listed in NSLookup?
 
 For example when I run nslookup against my AD Domain name, I receive the
 result:
 
 Name: name.domain.com
 Addresses: 169.254.0.152, 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151
 
 What I am expecting to see is this:
 
 Name: name.domain.com
 Addresses: 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151, 169.254.0.152
 
 
 How can the order be changed? 

-- 

Phil Brutsche
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: NSLookup - results are not as expected

2008-02-21 Thread Greg Mulholland


From memory lookups can appear in any order. I'm sure ive done lookups to
the same domain and have a varying order of result. It shouldnt make any
difference though.

Greg

 I'm losing hair on my
head trying to understand what determines the order 
 of 
 the IP addresses when they are listed in NSLookup? 
 
 For example when I run nslookup against my AD Domain name, I
receive the 
 result: 
 
 Name: name.domain.com

 Addresses: 169.254.0.152, 169.254.0.150, 169.254.0.151 
 
 What I am expecting to see is this: 
 
 Name: name.domain.com 
 Addresses: 169.254.0.150,
169.254.0.151, 169.254.0.152 
 
 
 How can the
order be changed? 
 
 
 
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Re: NSLookup - results are not as expected

2008-02-21 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Bryan Garmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm losing hair on my head trying to understand what determines the order of
  the IP addresses when they are listed in NSLookup?

  The DNS specification says that if multiple RRs (Resource Records)
exist for a given domain name, they may be returned in any order.

  How can the order be changed?

  Short answer: It cannot.

-- Ben

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