Re: Normalizing a disk image

2013-03-07 Thread Free, Bob 
LOL... forgot about that...

sync; sync; sync; halt

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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 7:51 AM
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Subject: [dkim-failure] Re: Normalizing a disk image

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Webster  wrote:
> I have still not found anything about booting multiple times before 
> sealing the image.

  This reminds me of the old Unix superstition, "sync three times before 
shutting down".

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RE: Normalizing a disk image

2013-03-07 Thread Ken Schaefer 
James mentioned pre-fetch which IIRC is a Vista/7 technology that pre-loads 
frequently used binaries into memory at boot/logon time

Cheers
Ken

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Friday, 8 March 2013 5:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

Maybe you are thinking of the .Net Framework compiling that happens in the 
background???

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/clr/thread/62c082cd-819a-4aa0-b526-65c05b0b0f13
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc163610.aspx


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From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

http://community.citrix.com/kits/#/kit/1067009

Only because it applies to the project I am on, I went through ALL the 
optimization guides and saw nothing about multiple boots before sealing.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

http://support.citrix.com/servlet/KbServlet/download/24559-102-647700/XD%20-%20Top%2010%20Mistakes%20Identified%20When%20Doing%20Desktop%20Virtualization.pdf

Item #6, page 8 is about Antivirus.

I have still not found anything about booting multiple times before sealing the 
image.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

The AV one, yes, that is recommended.

Boot 6 time, never heard of it.  BUT I have heard of booting and waiting a long 
time so .net stuff has time to compile in the background but that was several 
years ago.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Normalizing a disk image

Been doing a lot of work recently with Citrix Provisioning Services - for those 
of you that aren't familiar with it, it allows servers or desktops to boot from 
a "gold" or "master" read-only disk image that returns to the initial state at 
reboot time.
Obviously prior to "sealing" a gold image you have to normalize it to make sure 
that software doesn't fail and optimize it for best performance. I've gone 
through a lot of the usual optimizations, defrag, flush DNS, etc., but came 
across another two possible optimizations online and was wondering if they were 
actually worth doing.
One I heard about was running a full AV scan prior to sealing so that all files 
are already "known" to the antivirus software? Is this actually relevant, or 
does it depend on the AV in use?
The other possible optimization was rebooting the system six times and waiting 
120 seconds between each reboot to allow for boot prefetching. Again, is this 
something that would help a system run better?
Thanks for any insights,




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RE: Normalizing a disk image

2013-03-07 Thread Webster 
Maybe you are thinking of the .Net Framework compiling that happens in the 
background???

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/clr/thread/62c082cd-819a-4aa0-b526-65c05b0b0f13
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc163610.aspx


Carl Webster
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http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

http://community.citrix.com/kits/#/kit/1067009

Only because it applies to the project I am on, I went through ALL the 
optimization guides and saw nothing about multiple boots before sealing.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

http://support.citrix.com/servlet/KbServlet/download/24559-102-647700/XD%20-%20Top%2010%20Mistakes%20Identified%20When%20Doing%20Desktop%20Virtualization.pdf

Item #6, page 8 is about Antivirus.

I have still not found anything about booting multiple times before sealing the 
image.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

The AV one, yes, that is recommended.

Boot 6 time, never heard of it.  BUT I have heard of booting and waiting a long 
time so .net stuff has time to compile in the background but that was several 
years ago.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Normalizing a disk image

Been doing a lot of work recently with Citrix Provisioning Services - for those 
of you that aren't familiar with it, it allows servers or desktops to boot from 
a "gold" or "master" read-only disk image that returns to the initial state at 
reboot time.
Obviously prior to "sealing" a gold image you have to normalize it to make sure 
that software doesn't fail and optimize it for best performance. I've gone 
through a lot of the usual optimizations, defrag, flush DNS, etc., but came 
across another two possible optimizations online and was wondering if they were 
actually worth doing.
One I heard about was running a full AV scan prior to sealing so that all files 
are already "known" to the antivirus software? Is this actually relevant, or 
does it depend on the AV in use?
The other possible optimization was rebooting the system six times and waiting 
120 seconds between each reboot to allow for boot prefetching. Again, is this 
something that would help a system run better?
Thanks for any insights,




--
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RE: Normalizing a disk image

2013-03-07 Thread Webster 
http://community.citrix.com/kits/#/kit/1067009

Only because it applies to the project I am on, I went through ALL the 
optimization guides and saw nothing about multiple boots before sealing.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

http://support.citrix.com/servlet/KbServlet/download/24559-102-647700/XD%20-%20Top%2010%20Mistakes%20Identified%20When%20Doing%20Desktop%20Virtualization.pdf

Item #6, page 8 is about Antivirus.

I have still not found anything about booting multiple times before sealing the 
image.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

The AV one, yes, that is recommended.

Boot 6 time, never heard of it.  BUT I have heard of booting and waiting a long 
time so .net stuff has time to compile in the background but that was several 
years ago.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Normalizing a disk image

Been doing a lot of work recently with Citrix Provisioning Services - for those 
of you that aren't familiar with it, it allows servers or desktops to boot from 
a "gold" or "master" read-only disk image that returns to the initial state at 
reboot time.
Obviously prior to "sealing" a gold image you have to normalize it to make sure 
that software doesn't fail and optimize it for best performance. I've gone 
through a lot of the usual optimizations, defrag, flush DNS, etc., but came 
across another two possible optimizations online and was wondering if they were 
actually worth doing.
One I heard about was running a full AV scan prior to sealing so that all files 
are already "known" to the antivirus software? Is this actually relevant, or 
does it depend on the AV in use?
The other possible optimization was rebooting the system six times and waiting 
120 seconds between each reboot to allow for boot prefetching. Again, is this 
something that would help a system run better?
Thanks for any insights,




--
James Rankin
Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
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Re: Normalizing a disk image

2013-03-07 Thread kz20fl 
Ah, top stuff, let me have a look at that, cheers!


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From: Webster 
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:34:22 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

http://support.citrix.com/servlet/KbServlet/download/24559-102-647700/XD%20-%20Top%2010%20Mistakes%20Identified%20When%20Doing%20Desktop%20Virtualization.pdf

Item #6, page 8 is about Antivirus.

I have still not found anything about booting multiple times before sealing the 
image.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

The AV one, yes, that is recommended.

Boot 6 time, never heard of it.  BUT I have heard of booting and waiting a long 
time so .net stuff has time to compile in the background but that was several 
years ago.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Normalizing a disk image

Been doing a lot of work recently with Citrix Provisioning Services - for those 
of you that aren't familiar with it, it allows servers or desktops to boot from 
a "gold" or "master" read-only disk image that returns to the initial state at 
reboot time.
Obviously prior to "sealing" a gold image you have to normalize it to make sure 
that software doesn't fail and optimize it for best performance. I've gone 
through a lot of the usual optimizations, defrag, flush DNS, etc., but came 
across another two possible optimizations online and was wondering if they were 
actually worth doing.
One I heard about was running a full AV scan prior to sealing so that all files 
are already "known" to the antivirus software? Is this actually relevant, or 
does it depend on the AV in use?
The other possible optimization was rebooting the system six times and waiting 
120 seconds between each reboot to allow for boot prefetching. Again, is this 
something that would help a system run better?
Thanks for any insights,




--
James Rankin
Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
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Re: Normalizing a disk image

2013-03-07 Thread Ben Scott 
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Webster  wrote:
> I have still not found anything about booting multiple times before sealing
> the image.

  This reminds me of the old Unix superstition, "sync three times
before shutting down".

-- Ben

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~   ~

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RE: Normalizing a disk image

2013-03-07 Thread Webster 
http://support.citrix.com/servlet/KbServlet/download/24559-102-647700/XD%20-%20Top%2010%20Mistakes%20Identified%20When%20Doing%20Desktop%20Virtualization.pdf

Item #6, page 8 is about Antivirus.

I have still not found anything about booting multiple times before sealing the 
image.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Normalizing a disk image

The AV one, yes, that is recommended.

Boot 6 time, never heard of it.  BUT I have heard of booting and waiting a long 
time so .net stuff has time to compile in the background but that was several 
years ago.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Normalizing a disk image

Been doing a lot of work recently with Citrix Provisioning Services - for those 
of you that aren't familiar with it, it allows servers or desktops to boot from 
a "gold" or "master" read-only disk image that returns to the initial state at 
reboot time.
Obviously prior to "sealing" a gold image you have to normalize it to make sure 
that software doesn't fail and optimize it for best performance. I've gone 
through a lot of the usual optimizations, defrag, flush DNS, etc., but came 
across another two possible optimizations online and was wondering if they were 
actually worth doing.
One I heard about was running a full AV scan prior to sealing so that all files 
are already "known" to the antivirus software? Is this actually relevant, or 
does it depend on the AV in use?
The other possible optimization was rebooting the system six times and waiting 
120 seconds between each reboot to allow for boot prefetching. Again, is this 
something that would help a system run better?
Thanks for any insights,




--
James Rankin
Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
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RE: Normalizing a disk image

2013-03-07 Thread Webster 
The AV one, yes, that is recommended.

Boot 6 time, never heard of it.  BUT I have heard of booting and waiting a long 
time so .net stuff has time to compile in the background but that was several 
years ago.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Normalizing a disk image

Been doing a lot of work recently with Citrix Provisioning Services - for those 
of you that aren't familiar with it, it allows servers or desktops to boot from 
a "gold" or "master" read-only disk image that returns to the initial state at 
reboot time.
Obviously prior to "sealing" a gold image you have to normalize it to make sure 
that software doesn't fail and optimize it for best performance. I've gone 
through a lot of the usual optimizations, defrag, flush DNS, etc., but came 
across another two possible optimizations online and was wondering if they were 
actually worth doing.
One I heard about was running a full AV scan prior to sealing so that all files 
are already "known" to the antivirus software? Is this actually relevant, or 
does it depend on the AV in use?
The other possible optimization was rebooting the system six times and waiting 
120 seconds between each reboot to allow for boot prefetching. Again, is this 
something that would help a system run better?
Thanks for any insights,




--
James Rankin
Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk

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