Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-13 Thread Mike Leone 

On 1/12/2012 3:58 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:

+1


I haven't had that happen, to either my Google Apps or regular Google 
account. But I usually am signed into one or the other, sometimes both 
at once ...


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Espi



On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Ben Scott > wrote:


On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Maglinger, Paul
mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com>> wrote:
> I’d like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep
losing my
> search preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it
keeps resetting
> my SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search
seems to
> work.  I even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

 Do you have any Google accounts (on any of their services?).  It
seems like search settings are kinda/sorta/sometimes/somehow
associated with one's Google account.  So, for best results, log in to
each Google account you have, and set and save the search settings the
same way.

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
+1

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On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Maglinger, Paul 
> wrote:
> > I’d like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my
> > search preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps
> resetting
> > my SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to
> > work.  I even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.
>
>   Do you have any Google accounts (on any of their services?).  It
> seems like search settings are kinda/sorta/sometimes/somehow
> associated with one's Google account.  So, for best results, log in to
> each Google account you have, and set and save the search settings the
> same way.
>
> -- Ben
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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul 
Nope, that didn't work.  But I have a gmail account now!

-Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Maglinger, Paul  wrote:
> I'd like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my
> search preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting
> my SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to
> work.  I even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

  Do you have any Google accounts (on any of their services?).  It
seems like search settings are kinda/sorta/sometimes/somehow
associated with one's Google account.  So, for best results, log in to
each Google account you have, and set and save the search settings the
same way.

-- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Ben Scott 
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Maglinger, Paul  wrote:
> I’d like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my
> search preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting
> my SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to
> work.  I even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

  Do you have any Google accounts (on any of their services?).  It
seems like search settings are kinda/sorta/sometimes/somehow
associated with one's Google account.  So, for best results, log in to
each Google account you have, and set and save the search settings the
same way.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Kennedy, Jim 
That's all I got.  :)

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

Yep.  Thanks for the link.  I don't suppose you have for the SafeSearch as well?

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]<mailto:[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

This will fix the predictions as long as you continue to go to the link to use 
google.

https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0&hl=en

Are you clicking save on the bottom of the settings page when you change your 
safe search settings? I have never had it reset on me.


From: Maglinger, Paul 
[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]<mailto:[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I'd like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my search 
preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting my 
SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to work.  I 
even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

-Paul

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:sep...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

You know, I've been hearing advances in hotmail are making feature parity 
happen, so, time to check it out and see.  Maybe switch over.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Ben Scott 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9, the
> Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to the
> myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
> back to the inbox, as it used to be.
 That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul 
Yep.  Thanks for the link.  I don't suppose you have for the SafeSearch as well?

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

This will fix the predictions as long as you continue to go to the link to use 
google.

https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0&hl=en

Are you clicking save on the bottom of the settings page when you change your 
safe search settings? I have never had it reset on me.


From: Maglinger, Paul 
[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]<mailto:[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I'd like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my search 
preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting my 
SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to work.  I 
even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

-Paul

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:sep...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

You know, I've been hearing advances in hotmail are making feature parity 
happen, so, time to check it out and see.  Maybe switch over.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Ben Scott 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9, the
> Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to the
> myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
> back to the inbox, as it used to be.
 That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Kennedy, Jim 
This will fix the predictions as long as you continue to go to the link to use 
google.

https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0&hl=en

Are you clicking save on the bottom of the settings page when you change your 
safe search settings? I have never had it reset on me.


From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I'd like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my search 
preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting my 
SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to work.  I 
even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

-Paul

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:sep...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

You know, I've been hearing advances in hotmail are making feature parity 
happen, so, time to check it out and see.  Maybe switch over.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Ben Scott 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9, the
> Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to the
> myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
> back to the inbox, as it used to be.
 That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul 
I'd like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my search 
preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting my 
SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to work.  I 
even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

-Paul

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

You know, I've been hearing advances in hotmail are making feature parity 
happen, so, time to check it out and see.  Maybe switch over.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Ben Scott 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9, the
> Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to the
> myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
> back to the inbox, as it used to be.
 That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

-- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-11 Thread Steven Peck 
You know, I've been hearing advances in hotmail are making feature parity
happen, so, time to check it out and see.  Maybe switch over.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
> > Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9,
> the
> > Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to
> the
> > myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
> > back to the inbox, as it used to be.
>
>   That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.
>
> -- Ben
>
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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Ben Scott 
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link  wrote:
> Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9, the
> Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to the
> myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
> back to the inbox, as it used to be.

  That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

-- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Jonathan Link 
Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9,
the Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to
the myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking
one back to the inbox, as it used to be.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
>  wrote:
> > Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are
> handled.
>
>   Sucks for those, too.
>
> > You dont use these options often, so why have them constantly
> > visible adding to a busy/cluttered interface?
>
>   Because it's a bad way to do a UI.  Seriously, they've done studies.
>  Things that move around on their own are disruptive to both learning
> and use.  UI elements should be fixed in place unless responding to
> explict user "command".
>
>  The "Auto hide taskbar" thing that many people like actually costs
> them time, too.
>
> -- Ben
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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Rene de Haas 
LOL.
Maybe something for April 1st.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Rene de Haas 
> wrote:
> > Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
> > I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't
> like
> > having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
> > hidden somewhere.
>
>   Next year, they'll make it so the hidden buttons appear in random
> positions on the screen.
>
> -- Ben
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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Maglinger, Paul 
Like Easter eggs?

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Rene de Haas  wrote:
> Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
> I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
> having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
> hidden somewhere.

  Next year, they'll make it so the hidden buttons appear in random
positions on the screen.

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Ben Scott 
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:
> Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are handled.

  Sucks for those, too.

> You dont use these options often, so why have them constantly
> visible adding to a busy/cluttered interface?

  Because it's a bad way to do a UI.  Seriously, they've done studies.
 Things that move around on their own are disruptive to both learning
and use.  UI elements should be fixed in place unless responding to
explict user "command".

  The "Auto hide taskbar" thing that many people like actually costs
them time, too.

-- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Steven Peck 
YA!!!  Because if it were easy to find that would demonstrate a good UI.
oh wait

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are
> handled.  You hover over it, and you have access to an additional menu.
>  You dont use these options often, so why have them constantly visible
> adding to a busy/cluttered interface?  Ultimately, Im glad that it is done
> this way.
>
> Yea, waa, I didnt know about it right-away, but what-ever.  I searched
> Google for interface options, and it was relatively easy to find.
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Rene de Haas wrote:
>
>> Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
>> I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't
>> like having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
>> hidden somewhere.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG wrote:
>>
>>>  Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the
>>> Inbox button, let’s you arrange how mail is presented to you.
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Joe Heaton
>>>
>>> ITB – Windows Server Support
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
>>> *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
>>>
>>> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>>>
>>>  ** **
>>>
>>> Gmail has Easter eggs now?
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>>>
>>>  ** **
>>>
>>> I love you man! Thanks much.
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: OT Gmail rant
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just
>>> under the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down
>>> arrow and then choose classic. 
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>>
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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Sam Cayze 
I've tried that.

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

 

You can open additional Gmail windows, just like any proper email client.
You can easily choose to open new messages in a pop-out.

--
Espi

 





On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

+1.  I can never tolerate web mail, regardless of the provider or revision.

 

I need to be able to see previous responses, other emails, etc while
composing a message.  I don't know how people get anything done in the tiny
window of text in Gmail.

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:32 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

 

Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to
check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No
issues. 



Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 



From:"Kennedy, Jim"  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date:01/09/2012 11:17 AM 

Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant 

  _  




For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 'show
more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on the
arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, the
unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done with
it.



-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [ <mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 

 

Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at the
top of the screen



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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are handled.
 You hover over it, and you have access to an additional menu.  You dont
use these options often, so why have them constantly visible adding to a
busy/cluttered interface?  Ultimately, Im glad that it is done this way.

Yea, waa, I didnt know about it right-away, but what-ever.  I searched
Google for interface options, and it was relatively easy to find.

--
Espi




On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Rene de Haas  wrote:

> Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
> I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
> having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
> hidden somewhere.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG wrote:
>
>>  Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the
>> Inbox button, let’s you arrange how mail is presented to you.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Joe Heaton
>>
>> ITB – Windows Server Support
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
>> *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> Gmail has Easter eggs now?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> I love you man! Thanks much.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: OT Gmail rant
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just
>> under the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down
>> arrow and then choose classic. 
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Ben Scott 
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Rene de Haas  wrote:
> Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
> I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
> having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
> hidden somewhere.

  Next year, they'll make it so the hidden buttons appear in random
positions on the screen.

-- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
You can open additional Gmail windows, just like any proper email client.
 You can easily choose to open new messages in a pop-out.

--
Espi




On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

> +1.  I can never tolerate web mail, regardless of the provider or revision.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> I need to be able to see previous responses, other emails, etc while
> composing a message.  I don’t know how people get anything done in the tiny
> window of text in Gmail.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 10:32 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>
> ** **
>
> Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to
> check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No
> issues.
>
>
> Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
> Technical Support III
> Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
> Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
> Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
> Phone: 610-807-6459
> Fax: 610-807-6003
>
>
>
> From:"Kennedy, Jim" 
> To:"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> Date:01/09/2012 11:17 AM
> Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant 
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select
> 'show more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on
> the arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it,
> the unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done
> with it.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov ]
>
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant
>
> As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at
> the top of the screen
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <
> http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Rene de Haas 
Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
hidden somewhere.


On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG wrote:

>  Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the
> Inbox button, let’s you arrange how mail is presented to you.
>
> ** **
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> ITB – Windows Server Support
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
> *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>
>  ** **
>
> Gmail has Easter eggs now?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>
> ** **
>
> I love you man! Thanks much.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT Gmail rant
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just
> under the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down
> arrow and then choose classic. 
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Sam Cayze 
+1.  I can never tolerate web mail, regardless of the provider or revision.

 

I need to be able to see previous responses, other emails, etc while
composing a message.  I don't know how people get anything done in the tiny
window of text in Gmail.

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

 

Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to
check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No
issues. 


Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 



From:"Kennedy, Jim"  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date:01/09/2012 11:17 AM 
Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant 

  _  




For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 'show
more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on the
arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, the
unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done with
it.

-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [ <mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at the
top of the screen


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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Maglinger, Paul 
It sounded to me like they were hiding the down arrow.  I understand now that 
they're just hiding the "classic" settings.  I agree with Ben, if it ain't 
broke, don't fix it.

Hey Detroit!  Let's put the gas pedal on the left and the brake pedal on the 
right and see how that works out!!!  It's bad enough they can't make up their 
minds where to put the gas caps.

But I digress...

GOM

From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the Inbox 
button, let's you arrange how mail is presented to you.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Paul Maglinger 
[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]<mailto:[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

Gmail has Easter eggs now?

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]<mailto:[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
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I love you man! Thanks much.

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
This is not an Easter egg.  There are different inbox views that can be
applied.

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On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Maglinger, Paul  wrote:

>  Gmail has Easter eggs now?
>
> ** **
>
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> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
>
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>
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>
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>
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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the Inbox 
button, let's you arrange how mail is presented to you.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

Gmail has Easter eggs now?

From: Kennedy, Jim 
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Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
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Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I love you man! Thanks much.

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Maglinger, Paul 
Gmail has Easter eggs now?

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I love you man! Thanks much.

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Kennedy, Jim 
I love you man! Thanks much.

From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
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Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant


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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Mike Sullivan 
I just click on "1-25 of many" and it then switches over to the arrows.

If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just
under the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down
arrow and then choose classic.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

> For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select
> 'show more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on
> the arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it,
> the unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done
> with it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
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> Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant
>
> As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at
> the top of the screen
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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Christopher Bodnar 
Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to 
check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No 
issues.


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From:   "Kennedy, Jim" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   01/09/2012 11:17 AM
Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant



For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 
'show more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on 
the arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, 
the unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done 
with it.

-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at 
the top of the screen


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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Steven Peck 
I don't like the new format either.  Using the 'Compact' version of it
makes it more tolerable but enh.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG wrote:

> I'm not sure what the big deal is, personally.  I've been using the new
> format for a while now.  I applied a theme to it, to separate the mail from
> the plain background.  I have the density settings to comfortable, which
> gives separation from each other.  As far as getting to the older e-mails,
> there's a big old arrow right at the top of the screen.  I haven't noticed
> a whole lot of rollover activity, other than one section on the left side,
> but that may be from a lack of stuff that I'm doing with the client, I
> don't know...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:12 AM
> To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> > At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time
> > building my own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the
> > prevailing interfaces of the day.
>
>  Standard protocols?  That's crazy talk!  ;-)
>
>  Actually, that's a good point.  Google still supports IMAP.  It used to
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> look", but I can always go back to reading my mail in my client of choice.
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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Kennedy, Jim 
For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 'show 
more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on the arrow 
is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, the unread/inbox 
goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done with it.

-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at the 
top of the screen


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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
I'm not sure what the big deal is, personally.  I've been using the new format 
for a while now.  I applied a theme to it, to separate the mail from the plain 
background.  I have the density settings to comfortable, which gives separation 
from each other.  As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old 
arrow right at the top of the screen.  I haven't noticed a whole lot of 
rollover activity, other than one section on the left side, but that may be 
from a lack of stuff that I'm doing with the client, I don't know...


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:12 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time 
> building my own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the 
> prevailing interfaces of the day.

  Standard protocols?  That's crazy talk!  ;-)

  Actually, that's a good point.  Google still supports IMAP.  It used to be 
few freemail providers did (has that changed?).  I rather like the "old look", 
but I can always go back to reading my mail in my client of choice.

-- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Ben Scott 
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time building my
> own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the prevailing interfaces
> of the day.

  Standard protocols?  That's crazy talk!  ;-)

  Actually, that's a good point.  Google still supports IMAP.  It used
to be few freemail providers did (has that changed?).  I rather like
the "old look", but I can always go back to reading my mail in my
client of choice.

-- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Andrew S. Baker 
They're rolling it out in stages. For a while, I had the option to revert,
but that has gone now.

While I am less annoyed about the interface than when I first encountered
it, I am very far away from being pleased.  The icons are way too subtle,
and the interface is way too jumpy with all sorts of mouse rollover
activity.

At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time building my
own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the prevailing
interfaces of the day.

-ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

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 On Jan 9, 2012 8:43 AM, "Kennedy, Jim" 
wrote:

> Interesting, I just change mine back to the old format…on the settings
> ‘gear’ on the right side. Must not be my turn to be borged yet. My biggest
> complaint on the new layout is getting to older emails beyond page one is a
> pita.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 8:23 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Gmail rant
>
> ** **
>
> I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it,
> although it is nicer to be asked.
>
> I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they
> probably have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is
> best :-0
>
> On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary 
> wrote:
>
> Greetings!
>
>  
>
> I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old
> format”.  I don’t know what the @#*& they were “thinking”, but I simply
> cannot read things in that big mass of white.  It is not easy to figure out
> what those little black smears are which were once actual text.
>
>  
>
> Twice I found a link to revert.  Now that option is gone.  HELP???
>
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>
> Thanks!
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> richard
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OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Kennedy, Jim 
Interesting, I just change mine back to the old format...on the settings 'gear' 
on the right side. Must not be my turn to be borged yet. My biggest complaint 
on the new layout is getting to older emails beyond page one is a pita.

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Gmail rant

I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it, 
although it is nicer to be asked.

I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they probably 
have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is best :-0
On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary 
mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org>> wrote:
Greetings!

I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the "old 
format".  I don't know what the @#*& they were "thinking", but I simply cannot 
read things in that big mass of white.  It is not easy to figure out what those 
little black smears are which were once actual text.

Twice I found a link to revert.  Now that option is gone.  HELP???

Thanks!
--
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you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the 
contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the 
intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, 
you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily 
in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, 
you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also 
committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress..

The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the 
information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a 
pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should 
you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please 
pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass 
them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for 
transmission.

In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please 
return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife 
wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly 
half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets 
At Home yesterday.

We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running 
Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you 
do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that 
either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you 
may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from 
time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, 
where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR 
FAULT!

The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my 
employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of 
the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea.


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