Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 10/8/2011 12:48 PM On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil |¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Just went to the download link. Looks like there’s a Linux version. From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood? VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.commailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 10/8/2011 12:48 PM On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil |¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Works very well on TS/RDS/XenApp servers from what I see on other mailing lists and forums. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood? VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.commailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 10/8/2011 12:48 PM On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil |¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. It works well on Linux. Indeed, it started in the *nix world. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Shush. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. It works well on Linux. Indeed, it started in the *nix world. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Will it run under FreeBSD? -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. It works well on Linux. Indeed, it started in the *nix world. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Thomas Mullins tsmull...@wise.k12.va.us wrote: Will [VLC] run under FreeBSD? I haven't tried it, but their website says it's in ports. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-freebsd.html -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
VLC is great, but when you use some of the more leading-edge video formats, you may notice issues. Issues that you may be less likely to see in [for instance] Media Player Classic that comes bundles with the CCCP filter/codec pack. Im not promoting one over the other. I love VLC. But I can assure you its not perfect. I find myself going back and forth depending on the media container type. In my experience, MKVs can have a rendering/syncing issues - or are more likely to in VLC than in MPC. -- Espi On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 10/8/2011 12:48 PM On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil |¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Yup. It's what I use on my FreeBSD 7 and 8 desktops running XFCE4. Kurt On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:38, Thomas Mullins tsmull...@wise.k12.va.us wrote: Will it run under FreeBSD? -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. It works well on Linux. Indeed, it started in the *nix world. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
I've always thought it best not to accept candy from strangers... Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:09 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: I was scanning my system at home with Microsoft's Standalone System Scanner and it found OpenCandy on my system, which I'd never heard of before. Come to find out it's a piece of software that comes bundled with a lot of freeware apps that offers to install some 3rd party app for you while you're installing the app you originally downloaded. To me, that sounds like adware. What do y'all think? I understand a need by programmers to get paid for their software but to my way of thinking, this subterfuge stinks! -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
The free VLC Player works wonders for almost all media formats. It's lean and has replaced WMP and WinAmp on my systems. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:48 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil ¦¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
+100. I keep a copy of the portable version on a flash drive as well. Tastes great, less filling! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood? The free VLC Player works wonders for almost all media formats. It's lean and has replaced WMP and WinAmp on my systems. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:48 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.commailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil ¦¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
I was scanning my system at home with Microsoft's Standalone System Scanner and it found OpenCandy on my system, which I'd never heard of before. Come to find out it's a piece of software that comes bundled with a lot of freeware apps that offers to install some 3rd party app for you while you're installing the app you originally downloaded. To me, that sounds like adware. What do y'all think? I understand a need by programmers to get paid for their software but to my way of thinking, this subterfuge stinks! -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Interesting retort from opencandy. http://www.opencandy.com/2011/03/04/the-story-behind-the-opencandy-and-microsoft-adware-debacle/ Per them all their partners are required to provide an EULA that each person has to accept before installing any new software. I do classify this myself as adware since that is precisely what its doing. ..I don't classify it as malware where they don't notify you of installs and such and do a lot of subterfuge as you phrased it. You had to accept the opencandy eula to install it at some point either through a partner affiliation or direct EULA. There is no such thing as a free lunch this includes programs Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood? I was scanning my system at home with Microsoft's Standalone System Scanner and it found OpenCandy on my system, which I'd never heard of before. Come to find out it's a piece of software that comes bundled with a lot of freeware apps that offers to install some 3rd party app for you while you're installing the app you originally downloaded. To me, that sounds like adware. What do y'all think? I understand a need by programmers to get paid for their software but to my way of thinking, this subterfuge stinks! -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil ¦¬D -Original Message- From: John Aldrich Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood? I was scanning my system at home with Microsoft's Standalone System Scanner and it found OpenCandy on my system, which I'd never heard of before. Come to find out it's a piece of software that comes bundled with a lot of freeware apps that offers to install some 3rd party app for you while you're installing the app you originally downloaded. To me, that sounds like adware. What do y'all think? I understand a need by programmers to get paid for their software but to my way of thinking, this subterfuge stinks! -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Interesting retort from opencandy. http://www.opencandy.com/2011/03/04/the-story-behind-the-opencandy-and-m icrosoft-adware-debacle/ Per them all their partners are required to provide an EULA that each person has to accept before installing any new software. I do classify this myself as adware since that is precisely what its doing. ..I don't classify it as malware where they don't notify you of installs and such and do a lot of subterfuge as you phrased it. You had to accept the opencandy eula to install it at some point either through a partner affiliation or direct EULA. There is no such thing as a free lunch this includes programs Actually, there is free software... just some of the stuff that comes packaged with OpenCandy isn't completely free... -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil ¦¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote: Per them all their partners are required to provide an EULA that each person has to accept before installing any new software. I do classify this myself as adware since that is precisely what its doing. ..I don't classify it as malware where they don't notify you of installs and such and do a lot of subterfuge as you phrased it. Yah, it's an interesting concept. It's certainly adware (advertisements in software), but different from the usual implementation, where you see ads while the program you asked for is running normally. OpenCandy is supposedly only seen during installation of the program you asked for. If, as the purveyors claim, it's only used during installation (while waiting for the program you downloaded to install), it's relatively unobtrusive. If, as the purveyors claim, it sends no identifying information out to others, it's also relatively harmless. If, as the purveyors claim, anyone using OpenCandy clearly identifies what it is and does, then it's also honest and above-board. PDFCreator adopted OpenCandy a year or three back. There was a big kerfuffle in the user community about it. The publishers of PDFCreator responded by offering an alternate installer without it. The prominent download link on this home page gives you the OpenCandy version; the other-downloads section has the sugar-free variety. Advertisements by themselves are not necessarily evil (advertising pays for a lot of things many people enjoy), but on the Internet and computer they often get used in disingenuous or unethical ways. Examples include advertisements that pop-up when you didn't ask for it, or track your activity. One thing that occurs to me is that many versions of Microsoft Windows also feature advertisements during installation. So if you have a problem with using OpenCandy because you see ads during an install, then in fairness you should also stop using MS Windows. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote: Per them all their partners are required to provide an EULA that each person has to accept before installing any new software. I do classify this myself as adware since that is precisely what its doing. ..I don't classify it as malware where they don't notify you of installs and such and do a lot of subterfuge as you phrased it. Yah, it's an interesting concept. It's certainly adware (advertisements in software), but different from the usual implementation, where you see ads while the program you asked for is running normally. OpenCandy is supposedly only seen during installation of the program you asked for. If, as the purveyors claim, it's only used during installation (while waiting for the program you downloaded to install), it's relatively unobtrusive. If, as the purveyors claim, it sends no identifying information out to others, it's also relatively harmless. If, as the purveyors claim, anyone using OpenCandy clearly identifies what it is and does, then it's also honest and above-board. PDFCreator adopted OpenCandy a year or three back. There was a big kerfuffle in the user community about it. The publishers of PDFCreator responded by offering an alternate installer without it. The prominent download link on this home page gives you the OpenCandy version; the other-downloads section has the sugar-free variety. Advertisements by themselves are not necessarily evil (advertising pays for a lot of things many people enjoy), but on the Internet and computer they often get used in disingenuous or unethical ways. Examples include advertisements that pop-up when you didn't ask for it, or track your activity. One thing that occurs to me is that many versions of Microsoft Windows also feature advertisements during installation. So if you have a problem with using OpenCandy because you see ads during an install, then in fairness you should also stop using MS Windows. My main problem is that it *doesn't* go away like it's supposed to when it's done installing the app you requested. According to the OpenCandy, it's supposed to install the app, show you some optional software and then delete itself when it's done installing all the software. On my computer, it didn't. I don't know what it did or didn't do since I last used it to install something. I installed two programs which are identified as using that, and I do not recall ever seeing anything about OpenCandy during those installs. Granted, I wasn't looking for it, but I still think it's a bit wrong to hide it from the end-user. At least in previous versions it DID create a unique identifier for your computer. Granted they *say* that the new version doesn't do that, but do you REALLY trust these folks? I sure don't. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
