RE: ADSL query

2001-09-12 Thread Matt Wehnes

It will work, there's no difference between leased lines and ADSL.
I use a SDSL line to run my exchange box with out problems.
The IP address issues are public and VPN's can be set up.

Matt Wehnes 
System Administrator
Morton Machining  MFG



-Original Message-
From: Brian Judge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ADSL query


ADSL has just been introduced in Ireland. I was in the process of installing
a leased line Internet connection with Worldcom, and discovered that ADSL
would be about 30% of the price. My one worry is IP address allocation. Does
anyone know if ADSL supports public Ips? IE, will my exchange server work?
Will my users be able to connect in via a VPN etc.?

Thanks,
Brian Judge.



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RE: ADSL query

2001-09-12 Thread Clark, Steve

What a timely conversation. I have IDSL from Wcom/ UUNet and found that they
were in no rush to help either. It's not a problem with the ISP - it is in
the relationship with the company bringing the line into the facility and
the phone companies. It's miserable when it's down as each of the companies
point the finger at each other and then jointly point at you - it's the IW
it's the CPE.

Total BS.

Steve Clark
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-Original Message-
From: Erik Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADSL query

We are using ADSL in some of our stores here. They all have public IP's. The
one thing that you might want to consider, and it may be different with
worldcomm, is that most providers (especially ours) are still treating ADSL
like home connectivity and therefore are in no rush to fix problems.

Erik

-Original Message-
From: Brian Judge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ADSL query


ADSL has just been introduced in Ireland. I was in the process of installing
a leased line Internet connection with Worldcom, and discovered that ADSL
would be about 30% of the price. My one worry is IP address allocation. Does
anyone know if ADSL supports public Ips? IE, will my exchange server work?
Will my users be able to connect in via a VPN etc.?

Thanks,
Brian Judge.



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RE: ADSL query

2001-09-12 Thread Erik Brown

That was the main reason that we went with Soutwestern Bell here. We assumed
that since it was their network and they were responsible for the last
mile that problems would be resolved much faster. What actually happened
was that, in an effort to provide better support they created a division
called ASI to handle all support calls. These individuals do not necessarily
have technical knowledge of the product. They are simply skilled at
answering the phone. Occasionally we get one or two that has an idea of what
is going on and it is great. Other times we give them answers that are not
on their script and it blows their minds.
To their credit SWB has assigned us a customer relations manager with whom
we directly interface. She is now seeing the problems that we have been
talking about.

Erik

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADSL query


What a timely conversation. I have IDSL from Wcom/ UUNet and found that they
were in no rush to help either. It's not a problem with the ISP - it is in
the relationship with the company bringing the line into the facility and
the phone companies. It's miserable when it's down as each of the companies
point the finger at each other and then jointly point at you - it's the IW
it's the CPE.

Total BS.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Erik Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADSL query

We are using ADSL in some of our stores here. They all have public IP's. The
one thing that you might want to consider, and it may be different with
worldcomm, is that most providers (especially ours) are still treating ADSL
like home connectivity and therefore are in no rush to fix problems.

Erik

-Original Message-
From: Brian Judge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ADSL query


ADSL has just been introduced in Ireland. I was in the process of installing
a leased line Internet connection with Worldcom, and discovered that ADSL
would be about 30% of the price. My one worry is IP address allocation. Does
anyone know if ADSL supports public Ips? IE, will my exchange server work?
Will my users be able to connect in via a VPN etc.?

Thanks,
Brian Judge.



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RE: ADSL query

2001-09-12 Thread Clark, Steve

Seems a shame as Covad seems to be the problem in most of the issues I've
had - not the ISP.

Thanks for the post.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADSL query

I've used just about evey type of WAN connection option, from DSL to OC-12.
There is no single company that you can get to support the entire stretch
of cable, nomatter what you get.  AT+T will shell service out to Verizon,
or Qwest will have their service vended.  That's how the world of External
interface works.  The finger pointing begins as soon as the ticket is
logged.






Clark, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/12/2001 11:36:30 AM

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Subject:  RE: ADSL query


What a timely conversation. I have IDSL from Wcom/ UUNet and found that
they
were in no rush to help either. It's not a problem with the ISP - it is in
the relationship with the company bringing the line into the facility and
the phone companies. It's miserable when it's down as each of the companies
point the finger at each other and then jointly point at you - it's the IW
it's the CPE.

Total BS.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
 301-610-9584 voice
 240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Erik Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADSL query

We are using ADSL in some of our stores here. They all have public IP's.
The
one thing that you might want to consider, and it may be different with
worldcomm, is that most providers (especially ours) are still treating ADSL
like home connectivity and therefore are in no rush to fix problems.

Erik

-Original Message-
From: Brian Judge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ADSL query


ADSL has just been introduced in Ireland. I was in the process of
installing
a leased line Internet connection with Worldcom, and discovered that ADSL
would be about 30% of the price. My one worry is IP address allocation.
Does
anyone know if ADSL supports public Ips? IE, will my exchange server work?
Will my users be able to connect in via a VPN etc.?

Thanks,
Brian Judge.



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RE: ADSL query

2001-09-12 Thread Miley, Dan

I don't care if they change the name, reorganize, split, merge, break up.
commercial or private lines.

Their still the D@MN phone company!

Dan
-boomer
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I've used just about evey type of WAN connection option, from DSL to OC-12.
There is no single company that you can get to support the entire stretch
of cable, nomatter what you get.  AT+T will shell service out to Verizon,
or Qwest will have their service vended.  That's how the world of External
interface works.  The finger pointing begins as soon as the ticket is
logged.






Clark, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/12/2001 11:36:30 AM

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Subject:  RE: ADSL query


What a timely conversation. I have IDSL from Wcom/ UUNet and found that
they
were in no rush to help either. It's not a problem with the ISP - it is in
the relationship with the company bringing the line into the facility and
the phone companies. It's miserable when it's down as each of the companies
point the finger at each other and then jointly point at you - it's the IW
it's the CPE.

Total BS.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
 301-610-9584 voice
 240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Erik Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADSL query

We are using ADSL in some of our stores here. They all have public IP's.
The
one thing that you might want to consider, and it may be different with
worldcomm, is that most providers (especially ours) are still treating ADSL
like home connectivity and therefore are in no rush to fix problems.

Erik

-Original Message-
From: Brian Judge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ADSL query


ADSL has just been introduced in Ireland. I was in the process of
installing
a leased line Internet connection with Worldcom, and discovered that ADSL
would be about 30% of the price. My one worry is IP address allocation.
Does
anyone know if ADSL supports public Ips? IE, will my exchange server work?
Will my users be able to connect in via a VPN etc.?

Thanks,
Brian Judge.



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Re: ADSL query

2001-09-12 Thread Matt Moore

Brian,
I've setup lots of adsl connections.  exchange is no problem.  just tell
your firewall to send all port 25 requests to your exchange server.  and
make sure the ISP has the ip for your firewall as your mail/exchange mx
record in their dns servers. you don't want public ip's on on your inside
network.
matt
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From: Brian Judge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:44 AM
Subject: ADSL query


 ADSL has just been introduced in Ireland. I was in the process of
installing
 a leased line Internet connection with Worldcom, and discovered that ADSL
 would be about 30% of the price. My one worry is IP address allocation.
Does
 anyone know if ADSL supports public Ips? IE, will my exchange server work?
 Will my users be able to connect in via a VPN etc.?

 Thanks,
 Brian Judge.



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