RE: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

2013-02-06 Thread Randal, Phil
It's also worth installing KB2734608 as soon as you've installed WSUS 3.0SP2.

Cheers,

Phil


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So the boss figures that if we are creating a new database, we might as well 
install SQL Server 2008 R2 Express, and use that (locally). So we'll go with 
that, I guess.

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Re: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Leone
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Randal, Phil
phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk wrote:
 It's also worth installing KB2734608 as soon as you've installed WSUS 3.0SP2.

I will keep that in mind. It should show up as soon as I synchronize
the first time, it says ...

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RE: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

2013-02-05 Thread Kennedy, Jim
I have moved WSUS servers twice. It isn't worth it, just redo it. It doesn't 
take that long to mass approve the updates.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

I've asked this on the WSUS list over at PatchManahement.org, but while I am 
waiting on their wisdom, I thought I would ask here, as well.

I am using WSUS 3.0 SP2 on a Win2003 SP2 VM, and I need to move it to a Win2008 
R2 VM, and while I am it, change the server name.

Since I posted on the other list, I have determined (I think) that my database 
is the default Windows Internal database. I have a SUSDB.MDF file, and a 
separate SUSDB.BAK in a different folder. I must have set that backup up at one 
point, and pointed it to that backup folder, but it was so long ago, I've 
forgotten, and there is no documentation here.

I found this link - How to move WSUS from one server to another
http://blogs.technet.com/b/sus/archive/2009/07/02/how-to-move-wsus-from-one-server-to-another.aspx,
This blog post is 3.5 years old; is it still valid? Almost all the comments say 
this procedure did not work for them. If not, is there a better step-by-step 
guide?

Thanks for any help.

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RE: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

2013-02-05 Thread John Cook
+1 just rebuild a new server and change your GPO to point to the new one.

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From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:56 AM
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Subject: RE: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

I have moved WSUS servers twice. It isn't worth it, just redo it. It doesn't 
take that long to mass approve the updates.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

I've asked this on the WSUS list over at PatchManahement.org, but while I am 
waiting on their wisdom, I thought I would ask here, as well.

I am using WSUS 3.0 SP2 on a Win2003 SP2 VM, and I need to move it to a Win2008 
R2 VM, and while I am it, change the server name.

Since I posted on the other list, I have determined (I think) that my database 
is the default Windows Internal database. I have a SUSDB.MDF file, and a 
separate SUSDB.BAK in a different folder. I must have set that backup up at one 
point, and pointed it to that backup folder, but it was so long ago, I've 
forgotten, and there is no documentation here.

I found this link - How to move WSUS from one server to another
http://blogs.technet.com/b/sus/archive/2009/07/02/how-to-move-wsus-from-one-server-to-another.aspx,
This blog post is 3.5 years old; is it still valid? Almost all the comments say 
this procedure did not work for them. If not, is there a better step-by-step 
guide?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

2013-02-05 Thread steve ens
Plus one
Sent from my BlackBird.

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From: Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 16:56:01 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Advice on migrating WSUS 
3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

I have moved WSUS servers twice. It isn't worth it, just redo it. It doesn't 
take that long to mass approve the updates.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

I've asked this on the WSUS list over at PatchManahement.org, but while I am 
waiting on their wisdom, I thought I would ask here, as well.

I am using WSUS 3.0 SP2 on a Win2003 SP2 VM, and I need to move it to a Win2008 
R2 VM, and while I am it, change the server name.

Since I posted on the other list, I have determined (I think) that my database 
is the default Windows Internal database. I have a SUSDB.MDF file, and a 
separate SUSDB.BAK in a different folder. I must have set that backup up at one 
point, and pointed it to that backup folder, but it was so long ago, I've 
forgotten, and there is no documentation here.

I found this link - How to move WSUS from one server to another
http://blogs.technet.com/b/sus/archive/2009/07/02/how-to-move-wsus-from-one-server-to-another.aspx,
This blog post is 3.5 years old; is it still valid? Almost all the comments say 
this procedure did not work for them. If not, is there a better step-by-step 
guide?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

2013-02-05 Thread Michael Leone
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Kennedy, Jim
kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote:
 I have moved WSUS servers twice. It isn't worth it, just redo it. It doesn't 
 take that long to mass approve the updates.

OK ... it's not approving the updates, really. It's rebuilding the
groups, and the client history. Once I re-point the GPO to the new
server, then the client has to fully scan and report to the new WSUS
server which patches it has, and for the server to determine what
patches it needs.

Those are the parts I would be trying to avoid. How can I migrate
that? Do I make the new WSUS server, and somehow replicate from the
current to the new, then demote the old, leaving only the new?

(in our case - we have a set of servers that are up to date with the
latest patches, and another set that one month behind. This lets us
test that the patches don't break anything, before rolling them out to
the production servers)



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:49 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

 I've asked this on the WSUS list over at PatchManahement.org, but while I am 
 waiting on their wisdom, I thought I would ask here, as well.

 I am using WSUS 3.0 SP2 on a Win2003 SP2 VM, and I need to move it to a 
 Win2008 R2 VM, and while I am it, change the server name.

 Since I posted on the other list, I have determined (I think) that my 
 database is the default Windows Internal database. I have a SUSDB.MDF file, 
 and a separate SUSDB.BAK in a different folder. I must have set that backup 
 up at one point, and pointed it to that backup folder, but it was so long 
 ago, I've forgotten, and there is no documentation here.

 I found this link - How to move WSUS from one server to another
 http://blogs.technet.com/b/sus/archive/2009/07/02/how-to-move-wsus-from-one-server-to-another.aspx,
 This blog post is 3.5 years old; is it still valid? Almost all the comments 
 say this procedure did not work for them. If not, is there a better 
 step-by-step guide?

 Thanks for any help.

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RE: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

2013-02-05 Thread Robert Peterson
The actual moving of the database to another server is not difficult as long as 
you don't change from internal to SQL database.  The problem is in renaming the 
server.  When you do that you have to remember to change any GPO's that are 
associated with WSUS. The database export and import procedures are still the 
same that I'm aware of, use the WSUSutil command line. The OS should not make 
any difference at all.
Thomas would have more current knowledge of moving WSUS than I do.

If the environment is not very large you could just install a fresh copy of 
WSUS on the new server, re-point the GPO's and let the clients populate the new 
database on their own. Then import only the metadata of approved updates.  That 
way you're not getting old machines that may not be on the network any longer 
and you start with a much cleaner database.

William (Bill) Whitney
The Principia

-Original Message-
From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

I've asked this on the WSUS list over at PatchManahement.org, but while I am 
waiting on their wisdom, I thought I would ask here, as well.

I am using WSUS 3.0 SP2 on a Win2003 SP2 VM, and I need to move it to a Win2008 
R2 VM, and while I am it, change the server name.

Since I posted on the other list, I have determined (I think) that my database 
is the default Windows Internal database. I have a SUSDB.MDF file, and a 
separate SUSDB.BAK in a different folder. I must have set that backup up at one 
point, and pointed it to that backup folder, but it was so long ago, I've 
forgotten, and there is no documentation here.

I found this link - How to move WSUS from one server to another
http://blogs.technet.com/b/sus/archive/2009/07/02/how-to-move-wsus-from-one-server-to-another.aspx,
This blog post is 3.5 years old; is it still valid? Almost all the comments say 
this procedure did not work for them. If not, is there a better step-by-step 
guide?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

2013-02-05 Thread Roger Wright
Agreed.  It only takes a couple days for the database to update.



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On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Kennedy, Jim
kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote:

 I have moved WSUS servers twice. It isn't worth it, just redo it. It
 doesn't take that long to mass approve the updates.

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:49 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

 I've asked this on the WSUS list over at PatchManahement.org, but while I
 am waiting on their wisdom, I thought I would ask here, as well.

 I am using WSUS 3.0 SP2 on a Win2003 SP2 VM, and I need to move it to a
 Win2008 R2 VM, and while I am it, change the server name.

 Since I posted on the other list, I have determined (I think) that my
 database is the default Windows Internal database. I have a SUSDB.MDF file,
 and a separate SUSDB.BAK in a different folder. I must have set that backup
 up at one point, and pointed it to that backup folder, but it was so long
 ago, I've forgotten, and there is no documentation here.

 I found this link - How to move WSUS from one server to another
 
 http://blogs.technet.com/b/sus/archive/2009/07/02/how-to-move-wsus-from-one-server-to-another.aspx
 ,
 This blog post is 3.5 years old; is it still valid? Almost all the
 comments say this procedure did not work for them. If not, is there a
 better step-by-step guide?

 Thanks for any help.

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Re: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

2013-02-05 Thread Michael Leone
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Robert Peterson
robert.peter...@prin.edu wrote:
 The actual moving of the database to another server is not difficult as long 
 as you don't change from internal to SQL database.  The problem is in 
 renaming the server.  When you do that you have to remember to change any 
 GPO's that are associated with WSUS. The database export and import 
 procedures are still the same that I'm aware of, use the WSUSutil command 
 line.

That's not working for me.

wsusutil export Old-Server-CAB.CAB Old-Server-LOG.LOG

give me a binary file as the LOG, and an empty zero-byte CAB file.

 If the environment is not very large

About 130 servers ...

 you could just install a fresh copy of WSUS on the new server, re-point the 
 GPO's and let the clients populate the new database on their own. Then import 
 only the metadata of approved updates.  That way you're not getting old 
 machines that may not be on the network any longer and you start with a much 
 cleaner database.

That's what I am hoping to do. I have installed WSUS on the new
server, and am about to synchronize updates. Then I was going to
change the GPO and let it re-populate the DB. But I have nothing to
import metadata from ...

I can approve everything up till last Patch Tuesday date, of course.

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Re: Advice on migrating WSUS 3.0 SP2 from Win2003 32bit to Win2008 R2

2013-02-05 Thread Michael Leone
So the boss figures that if we are creating a new database, we might
as well install SQL Server 2008 R2 Express, and use that (locally). So
we'll go with that, I guess.

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