RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-13 Thread Joseph L. Casale 
I didn't think so as IET does not support it and OF uses IET:

https://forums.openfiler.com/viewtopic.php?id=2102

jlc

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

Open Filer supports Persistent Reservations now. That was a requirement for 
Win2k8 clustering support IIRC...

Cheers
Ken

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 11:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

Thanks to all for the information, it confirmed my earlier assessment.  Looks 
like I'll be going with a storage on a stick solution.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Joseph L. Casale 
mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com>> wrote:

Yea, it always is based on the release cycle being much slower. I am not a fan 
of OF anyways.



As for IET being incomplete? It doesn't support persistent reservations and as 
far as HA on esx I have never done it but it supports multiple ini's pointed to 
the same target and it does work. Lots of guys do it. I have used it with esx 
(no vmotion) and windows/linux for a long time and it works _very_ well. I 
think the majority of issues you see "documented" are caused by improper setup, 
nothing is done for the user, so you must setup all required parameters 
yourself.



I had a CentOS box running 0.4.15 for 6 months with two windows ini's pointed 
at it writing a continuous 50-80 gig a day w/o stopping.



YMMV,

jlc



From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com<mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com>]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:06 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?



Eh?



Openfiler uses IET. The current release of openfiler, is in fact BEHIND on IET 
patches.



I don't know freenas.



Regards,



Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: 
http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael>

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php



From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?



The iscsi target on most distros has documented problems with VMWare, 
especially with regard to HA functions.  IIRC, IET is an incomplete 
implementation of iSCSI.




On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Greg Mulholland 
mailto:g...@krystaltek.com>> wrote:

Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were happy to 
pay to do it properly.



you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most linux 
distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that


Greg

From: Matthew W. Ross 
[mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

We use OpenFiler here, with good results.

Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for 
cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.

If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go with a 
commercial product.

For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided by 
the Commercial iSCSI solutions.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

- Original Message -
From: Greg Mulholland
[mailto:g...@krystaltek.com<mailto:g...@krystaltek.com>]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
13:48:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
environment?


> i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm<mailto:st...@optimum.bm>] On Behalf Of 
> NTSysAdmin
> [ntsysad...@optimum.bm<mailto:ntsysad...@optimum.bm>]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> too.
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com<mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
&

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-13 Thread Ken Schaefer 
Open Filer supports Persistent Reservations now. That was a requirement for 
Win2k8 clustering support IIRC...

Cheers
Ken

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 11:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

Thanks to all for the information, it confirmed my earlier assessment.  Looks 
like I'll be going with a storage on a stick solution.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Joseph L. Casale 
mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com>> wrote:

Yea, it always is based on the release cycle being much slower. I am not a fan 
of OF anyways.



As for IET being incomplete? It doesn't support persistent reservations and as 
far as HA on esx I have never done it but it supports multiple ini's pointed to 
the same target and it does work. Lots of guys do it. I have used it with esx 
(no vmotion) and windows/linux for a long time and it works _very_ well. I 
think the majority of issues you see "documented" are caused by improper setup, 
nothing is done for the user, so you must setup all required parameters 
yourself.



I had a CentOS box running 0.4.15 for 6 months with two windows ini's pointed 
at it writing a continuous 50-80 gig a day w/o stopping.



YMMV,

jlc



From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com<mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com>]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:06 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?



Eh?



Openfiler uses IET. The current release of openfiler, is in fact BEHIND on IET 
patches.



I don't know freenas.



Regards,



Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: 
http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael>

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php



From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?



The iscsi target on most distros has documented problems with VMWare, 
especially with regard to HA functions.  IIRC, IET is an incomplete 
implementation of iSCSI.




On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Greg Mulholland 
mailto:g...@krystaltek.com>> wrote:

Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were happy to 
pay to do it properly.



you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most linux 
distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that


Greg

From: Matthew W. Ross 
[mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

We use OpenFiler here, with good results.

Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for 
cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.

If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go with a 
commercial product.

For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided by 
the Commercial iSCSI solutions.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

- Original Message -
From: Greg Mulholland
[mailto:g...@krystaltek.com<mailto:g...@krystaltek.com>]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
13:48:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
environment?


> i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm<mailto:st...@optimum.bm>] On Behalf Of 
> NTSysAdmin
> [ntsysad...@optimum.bm<mailto:ntsysad...@optimum.bm>]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> too.
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com<mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
> companies use it for production.
>
> I don't use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
> some point...
>
> From: Jonathan Link 
> [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gma

Re: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-12 Thread Jonathan Link 
Thanks to all for the information, it confirmed my earlier assessment.
Looks like I'll be going with a storage on a stick solution.

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Joseph L. Casale  wrote:

>  Yea, it always is based on the release cycle being much slower. I am not
> a fan of OF anyways.
>
>
>
> As for IET being incomplete? It doesn't support persistent reservations and
> as far as HA on esx I have never done it but it supports multiple ini's
> pointed to the same target and it does work. Lots of guys do it. I have used
> it with esx (no vmotion) and windows/linux for a long time and it works _*
> very*_ well. I think the majority of issues you see "documented" are
> caused by improper setup, nothing is done for the user, so you must setup
> all required parameters yourself.
>
>
>
> I had a CentOS box running 0.4.15 for 6 months with two windows ini's
> pointed at it writing a continuous 50-80 gig a day w/o stopping.
>
>
>
> YMMV,
>
> jlc
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:06 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
>
>
> Eh?
>
>
>
> Openfiler uses IET. The current release of openfiler, is in fact BEHIND on
> IET patches.
>
>
>
> I don't know freenas.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
> My blog: 
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael>
>
> I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:40 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
>
>
> The iscsi target on most distros has documented problems with VMWare,
> especially with regard to HA functions.  IIRC, IET is an incomplete
> implementation of iSCSI.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Greg Mulholland 
> wrote:
>
> Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were happy
> to pay to do it properly.
>
>
>
> you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most
> linux distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that
>
>
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM
>
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> We use OpenFiler here, with good results.
>
> Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for
> cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.
>
> If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go
> with a commercial product.
>
> For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided
> by the Commercial iSCSI solutions.
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Greg Mulholland
> [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
> 13:48:29 -0800
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
> environment?
>
>
> > i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> > and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
> >
> > Greg
> > 
> > From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
> > [ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
> > Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
> >
> > I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> > now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> > too.
> >
> > From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
> >
> > My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
> > companies use it for production.
> >
> > I don't use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
> > some point...
> >
> > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 P

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale 
Yea, it always is based on the release cycle being much slower. I am not a fan 
of OF anyways.

As for IET being incomplete? It doesn't support persistent reservations and as 
far as HA on esx I have never done it but it supports multiple ini's pointed to 
the same target and it does work. Lots of guys do it. I have used it with esx 
(no vmotion) and windows/linux for a long time and it works _very_ well. I 
think the majority of issues you see "documented" are caused by improper setup, 
nothing is done for the user, so you must setup all required parameters 
yourself.

I had a CentOS box running 0.4.15 for 6 months with two windows ini's pointed 
at it writing a continuous 50-80 gig a day w/o stopping.

YMMV,
jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

Eh?

Openfiler uses IET. The current release of openfiler, is in fact BEHIND on IET 
patches.

I don't know freenas.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

The iscsi target on most distros has documented problems with VMWare, 
especially with regard to HA functions.  IIRC, IET is an incomplete 
implementation of iSCSI.



On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Greg Mulholland 
mailto:g...@krystaltek.com>> wrote:

Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were happy to 
pay to do it properly.



you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most linux 
distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that


Greg

From: Matthew W. Ross 
[mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

We use OpenFiler here, with good results.

Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for 
cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.

If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go with a 
commercial product.

For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided by 
the Commercial iSCSI solutions.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

- Original Message -
From: Greg Mulholland
[mailto:g...@krystaltek.com<mailto:g...@krystaltek.com>]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
13:48:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
environment?


> i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm<mailto:st...@optimum.bm>] On Behalf Of 
> NTSysAdmin
> [ntsysad...@optimum.bm<mailto:ntsysad...@optimum.bm>]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> too.
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com<mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
> companies use it for production.
>
> I don't use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
> some point...
>
> From: Jonathan Link 
> [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I have
> OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our
> NAS box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to fill
> the void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with the
> performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High Availability
> features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has already
> blazed this trail
>
>
> Thanks,
>

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-11 Thread Michael B. Smith 
Eh?

 

Openfiler uses IET. The current release of openfiler, is in fact BEHIND on
IET patches.

 

I don't know freenas.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

 

The iscsi target on most distros has documented problems with VMWare,
especially with regard to HA functions.  IIRC, IET is an incomplete
implementation of iSCSI.



 

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Greg Mulholland 
wrote:

Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were happy
to pay to do it properly.

 

you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most
linux distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that



Greg

From: Matthew W. Ross [mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

We use OpenFiler here, with good results.

Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for
cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.

If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go
with a commercial product.

For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided
by the Commercial iSCSI solutions.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

- Original Message -
From: Greg Mulholland
[mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
13:48:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
environment?


> i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
> [ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> too.
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
> companies use it for production.
>
> I don't use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
> some point...
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I have
> OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our
> NAS box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to
fill
> the void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with
the
> performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High Availability
> features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has
already
> blazed this trail
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-11 Thread Jonathan Link 
The iscsi target on most distros has documented problems with VMWare,
especially with regard to HA functions.  IIRC, IET is an incomplete
implementation of iSCSI.



On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Greg Mulholland wrote:

>  Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were
> happy to pay to do it properly.
>
>
>
> you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most
> linux distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that
>
>
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> We use OpenFiler here, with good results.
>
> Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for
> cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.
>
> If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go
> with a commercial product.
>
> For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided
> by the Commercial iSCSI solutions.
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Greg Mulholland
> [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
> 13:48:29 -0800
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
> environment?
>
>
> > i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> > and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
> >
> > Greg
> > 
> > From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
> > [ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
> > Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
> >
> > I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> > now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> > too.
> >
> > From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
> >
> > My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
> > companies use it for production.
> >
> > I don't use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
> > some point...
> >
> > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
> >
> > Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I
> have
> > OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our
> > NAS box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to
> fill
> > the void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with
> the
> > performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High
> Availability
> > features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has
> already
> > blazed this trail
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-11 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists 
Iet/drbd can be your friend. I do like the openfiler interface (gui) and how
you can carve out different mount points.

 

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 17:35
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

 

you are a pita! :p

 

i guess what matthew says is right. if you need a cheap alternative then
there are a few around. It will come down to specific circumstances.

 

Greg

  _  

From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
[ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

Openfiler is a SAN...whether you like it or not...iSCSI target is a PITA

 

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

 

Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were happy
to pay to do it properly.

 

you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most
linux distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that



Greg

From: Matthew W.. Ross [mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

We use OpenFiler here, with good results.

Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for
cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.

If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go
with a commercial product.

For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided
by the Commercial iSCSI solutions.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

- Original Message -
From: Greg Mulholland
[mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
13:48:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
environment?


> i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
> [ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> too.
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
> companies use it for production.
>
> I don't use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
> some point...
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I have
> OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our
> NAS box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to
fill
> the void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with
the
> performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High Availability
> features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has
already
> blazed this trail
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-11 Thread Greg Mulholland 
you are a pita! :p

i guess what matthew says is right. if you need a cheap alternative then there 
are a few around. It will come down to specific circumstances.

Greg

From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin 
[ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

Openfiler is a SAN...whether you like it or not...iSCSI target is a PITA

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?


Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were happy to 
pay to do it properly.



you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most linux 
distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that


Greg

From: Matthew W. Ross [mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

We use OpenFiler here, with good results.

Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for 
cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.

If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go with a 
commercial product.

For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided by 
the Commercial iSCSI solutions.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

- Original Message -
From: Greg Mulholland
[mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
13:48:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
environment?


> i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
> [ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> too.
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
> companies use it for production.
>
> I don’t use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
> some point...
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I have
> OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our
> NAS box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to fill
> the void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with the
> performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High Availability
> features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has already
> blazed this trail
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~











~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-11 Thread NTSysAdmin 
Openfiler is a SAN...whether you like it or not...iSCSI target is a PITA

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?


Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were happy to 
pay to do it properly.



you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most linux 
distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that


Greg

From: Matthew W. Ross [mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

We use OpenFiler here, with good results.

Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for 
cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.

If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go with a 
commercial product.

For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided by 
the Commercial iSCSI solutions.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

- Original Message -
From: Greg Mulholland
[mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
13:48:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
environment?


> i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
> [ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> too.
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
> companies use it for production.
>
> I don't use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
> some point...
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I have
> OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our
> NAS box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to fill
> the void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with the
> performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High Availability
> features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has already
> blazed this trail
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-11 Thread Greg Mulholland 
Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were happy to 
pay to do it properly.



you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most linux 
distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that


Greg

From: Matthew W. Ross [mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

We use OpenFiler here, with good results.

Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for 
cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.

If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go with a 
commercial product.

For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided by 
the Commercial iSCSI solutions.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

- Original Message -
From: Greg Mulholland
[mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
13:48:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
environment?


> i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
> [ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> too.
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
> companies use it for production.
>
> I don’t use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
> some point...
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I have
> OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our
> NAS box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to fill
> the void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with the
> performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High Availability
> features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has already
> blazed this trail
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-11 Thread Greg Mulholland 
i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve and i 
have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!

Greg

From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin 
[ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years now 
with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that too.

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many companies 
use it for production.

I don’t use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at some 
point...

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I have 
OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our NAS 
box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to fill the 
void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with the 
performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High Availability 
features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has already 
blazed this trail


Thanks,
Jonathan















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-11 Thread NTSysAdmin 
I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years now 
with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that too.

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many companies 
use it for production.

I don't use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at some 
point...

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I have 
OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our NAS 
box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to fill the 
void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with the 
performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High Availability 
features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has already 
blazed this trail


Thanks,
Jonathan










~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

2008-12-11 Thread Sam Cayze 
My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
companies use it for production.

 

I don't use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
some point...

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

 

Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I
have OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On
of our NAS box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with
Openfiler to fill the void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been
extremely happy with the performance.  Using it to run VM's and take
advantage of High Availability features is where I am having some pause.
Wonder if anyone here has already blazed this trail

 

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~