Re: Backup Exec 2010 r2

[Steve Ens]

I wish I could.  that option is greyed out now.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim  wrote:

> Actually, now that I think about it I see that behavior quite often in that
> software….agents and computers not on the list and you have to manually add
> them. I just dismiss it as the Symantec effect.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:01 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Backup Exec 2010 r2
>
> ** **
>
> Yep, upgraded the agents too.  Funny that the existing jobs see the other
> servers and backup completes fine.
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Kennedy, Jim <
> kennedy...@elyriaschools.org> wrote:
>
> Have not done this upgrade but in the past you usually need to also update
> the remote agents.
>
>  
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:55 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Backup Exec 2010 r2
>
>  
>
> Anyone use Backup Exec here?  I've just applied the latest patches and am
> seeing now that when I create a new job, the remote agents aren't able to be
> discovered.  A bug perhaps?  Odd behaviour at any rate.  I am at version
> 13.0 rev 4164 64bit. 
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RE: Backup Exec 2010 r2

[Kennedy, Jim]

Actually, now that I think about it I see that behavior quite often in that 
softwareagents and computers not on the list and you have to manually add 
them. I just dismiss it as the Symantec effect.

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 2010 r2

Yep, upgraded the agents too.  Funny that the existing jobs see the other 
servers and backup completes fine.
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Kennedy, Jim 
mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org>> wrote:
Have not done this upgrade but in the past you usually need to also update the 
remote agents.

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup Exec 2010 r2

Anyone use Backup Exec here?  I've just applied the latest patches and am 
seeing now that when I create a new job, the remote agents aren't able to be 
discovered.  A bug perhaps?  Odd behaviour at any rate.  I am at version 13.0 
rev 4164 64bit.

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Re: Backup Exec 2010 r2

[Steve Ens]

Yep, upgraded the agents too.  Funny that the existing jobs see the other
servers and backup completes fine.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

> Have not done this upgrade but in the past you usually need to also update
> the remote agents.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:55 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Backup Exec 2010 r2
>
> ** **
>
> Anyone use Backup Exec here?  I've just applied the latest patches and am
> seeing now that when I create a new job, the remote agents aren't able to be
> discovered.  A bug perhaps?  Odd behaviour at any rate.  I am at version
> 13.0 rev 4164 64bit. 
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RE: Backup Exec 2010 r2

[Kennedy, Jim]

Have not done this upgrade but in the past you usually need to also update the 
remote agents.

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup Exec 2010 r2

Anyone use Backup Exec here?  I've just applied the latest patches and am 
seeing now that when I create a new job, the remote agents aren't able to be 
discovered.  A bug perhaps?  Odd behaviour at any rate.  I am at version 13.0 
rev 4164 64bit.

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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Maglinger, Paul]

In America PDA is used to refer to Public Displays of Affection.

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

In Britain, ASB is used to refer to Anti-Social Behaviour :-)

On 24 November 2010 13:28, Webster  wrote:

So MBS is now an acronym?  Master of Bull $h!+ sounds good to me. J

 

 

Webster

 

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com] 

Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

Sorry I misspelled the acronym 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 

Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

The fact that you demurred and then proceeded to 1) mispell MBS

 

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Matthew Bullock 
wrote:

If you were posting in this thread for any other reason than being a MSB
fanboi I might entertain you

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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Erik Goldoff]

Wow, I guess it’s true …

 

No good deed ever goes unpunished.

 

The expressed skepticism *could* prompt you to test a restore *BEFORE* it
possibly proves to be a  critical failure to VERIFY that the restore
function works as you expect.

 

I have in the past seen folks lose their jobs from inability to  perform a
restore within claimed timeframes for failure to test prior to critical
needs, where exceeding the planned and communicated restore window had a
major negative impact on business operations.

 

What exactly is your reason for participating in this listserv ?

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to 2010
R2 it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you’re so worried
about what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until then, why
are you even commenting?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

MongoDB is web-scale.

 

It’s as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.

 

NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/

 

Anytime I hear that a backup application is “twice as fast” -  I want to
know where the bits are going.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



 

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
wrote:



 

If you haven’t tested a restore, you don’t know HOW it’s worked so far.

 



 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> 

 

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

It’s twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it’s worked
perfectly so far.

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?

Are you backing up esxi versions?

If so what are your feelings?

 

 

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

 







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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Steven M. Caesare]

Dude. 

 

Many of the "comments" in this list are often:

 

1)  Suggestions that will get your ass out of a sling in the future

2)  Ideas you can tuck away for future implementation

3)  Damn good best practices

4)  An indication that your initial post was rather incomplete and
left us with no evidence you had done your due diligence and thus left
us with no choice but to assume you were as clueless about
implementation as you were to posting to mailing lists.

 

Now maybe _YOU_ get your panties in a wad when somebody points out an
issue that  you might be able to rectify PRIOR to it becoming a problem.
The rest of us have thicker skin and recognize the value therein.

 

So... chill.

 

-sc

 

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to
2010 R2 it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you're so
worried about what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until
then, why are you even commenting?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

MongoDB is web-scale.

 

It's as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.

 

NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/

 

Anytime I hear that a backup application is "twice as fast" -  I want to
know where the bits are going.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



 

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:



 

If you haven't tested a restore, you don't know HOW it's worked so far.

 



 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> 

 

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's
worked perfectly so far.

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?

Are you backing up esxi versions?

If so what are your feelings?

 

 

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

 



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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Steven M. Caesare]

AKA reality.

 

-sc

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



 

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:



 

If you haven't tested a restore, you don't know HOW it's worked so far.

 



 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> 

 

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's
worked perfectly so far.

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?

Are you backing up esxi versions?

If so what are your feelings?

 

 

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

 



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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[James Rankin]

In Britain, ASB is used to refer to Anti-Social Behaviour :-)

On 24 November 2010 13:28, Webster  wrote:

> So MBS is now an acronym?  Master of Bull $h!+ sounds good to me. J
>
>
>
>
>
> Webster
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com]
> *Subject:* RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> Sorry I misspelled the acronym
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Subject:* Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> The fact that you demurred and then proceeded to 1) mispell MBS
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Matthew Bullock 
> wrote:
>
> If you were posting in this thread for any other reason than being a MSB
> fanboi I might entertain you
>
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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Webster]

So MBS is now an acronym?  Master of Bull $h!+ sounds good to me. J

 

 

Webster

 

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com] 
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

Sorry I misspelled the acronym 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

The fact that you demurred and then proceeded to 1) mispell MBS

 

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Matthew Bullock  wrote:

If you were posting in this thread for any other reason than being a MSB
fanboi I might entertain you


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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Jonathan Link]

And didn't answer the question.

Yeah, I know where to put your posts from now on, you've joined an infamous
group...

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Matthew Bullock  wrote:

>  Sorry I misspelled the acronym
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:48 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> Since when is asking for facts about your process fanboism?
> I asked about restore time.  It's a key consideration, whether it's one
> file or all of them.
>
> I asked you to explain your testing process.  I even explained my
> experience which has led me to be wary of testing only backups...
>
>
>
> The fact that you demurred and then proceeded to 1) mispell MBS and 2) call
> me a fanboi and 3) and assume that I or any frequent list contributors would
> be offended by such an assertion illustrates an immaturity on the order of a
> typical five year old.
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Matthew Bullock 
> wrote:
>
> If you were posting in this thread for any other reason than being a MSB
> fanboi I might entertain you
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:35 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> Define tested thoroughly?
>
>
>
> So, how does the restore time compare to 12.5?  I've seen so many
> orgs/people say, yeah, I'm backing up and they go to their backup only to
> see it's failed but logging, verification, etc failed to identify the
> failures.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Matthew Bullock 
> wrote:
>
> Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to 2010
> R2 it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you’re so worried
> about what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until then, why
> are you even commenting?
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> MongoDB is web-scale.
>
>
>
> It’s as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.
>
>
>
> NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/
>
>
>
> Anytime I hear that a backup application is “twice as fast” -  I want to
> know where the bits are going.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
>
> If you haven’t tested a restore, you don’t know HOW it’s worked so far.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> It’s twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it’s worked
> perfectly so far.
>
>
>
> *From:* Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
>
> Are you backing up esxi versions?
>
> If so what are your feelings?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Luke L. Brumbaugh*
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Butler Animal Health Supply
>
> Ph:(614) 659-1736
>
>
>
>
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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Matthew Bullock]

Sorry I misspelled the acronym

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Since when is asking for facts about your process fanboism?
I asked about restore time.  It's a key consideration, whether it's one file or 
all of them.
I asked you to explain your testing process.  I even explained my experience 
which has led me to be wary of testing only backups...

The fact that you demurred and then proceeded to 1) mispell MBS and 2) call me 
a fanboi and 3) and assume that I or any frequent list contributors would be 
offended by such an assertion illustrates an immaturity on the order of a 
typical five year old.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Matthew Bullock 
mailto:mbull...@root9.com>> wrote:
If you were posting in this thread for any other reason than being a MSB fanboi 
I might entertain you

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:35 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Define tested thoroughly?

So, how does the restore time compare to 12.5?  I've seen so many orgs/people 
say, yeah, I'm backing up and they go to their backup only to see it's failed 
but logging, verification, etc failed to identify the failures.


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Matthew Bullock 
mailto:mbull...@root9.com>> wrote:
Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to 2010 R2 
it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you're so worried about 
what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until then, why are you 
even commenting?

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

MongoDB is web-scale.

It's as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.

NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/

Anytime I hear that a backup application is "twice as fast" -  I want to know 
where the bits are going.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:


If you haven't tested a restore, you don't know HOW it's worked so far.



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com<mailto:mbull...@root9.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's worked 
perfectly so far.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke 
[mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com<mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736



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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Michael B. Smith]

WWWHHHEE!!!



I didn't know I had fanbois !!!



I didn't get that MSB was a misspelling of MBS!



Thanks!







Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Jonathan Link [jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Since when is asking for facts about your process fanboism?
I asked about restore time.  It's a key consideration, whether it's one file or 
all of them.
I asked you to explain your testing process.  I even explained my experience 
which has led me to be wary of testing only backups...

The fact that you demurred and then proceeded to 1) mispell MBS and 2) call me 
a fanboi and 3) and assume that I or any frequent list contributors would be 
offended by such an assertion illustrates an immaturity on the order of a 
typical five year old.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Matthew Bullock 
mailto:mbull...@root9.com>> wrote:
If you were posting in this thread for any other reason than being a MSB fanboi 
I might entertain you

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:35 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Define tested thoroughly?

So, how does the restore time compare to 12.5?  I've seen so many orgs/people 
say, yeah, I'm backing up and they go to their backup only to see it's failed 
but logging, verification, etc failed to identify the failures.


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Matthew Bullock 
mailto:mbull...@root9.com>> wrote:
Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to 2010 R2 
it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you’re so worried about 
what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until then, why are you 
even commenting?

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

MongoDB is web-scale.

It’s as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.

NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/

Anytime I hear that a backup application is “twice as fast” -  I want to know 
where the bits are going.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:


If you haven’t tested a restore, you don’t know HOW it’s worked so far.



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com<mailto:mbull...@root9.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

It’s twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it’s worked 
perfectly so far.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke 
[mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com<mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736



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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Jonathan Link]

Since when is asking for facts about your process fanboism?
I asked about restore time.  It's a key consideration, whether it's one file
or all of them.
I asked you to explain your testing process.  I even explained my experience
which has led me to be wary of testing only backups...

The fact that you demurred and then proceeded to 1) mispell MBS and 2) call
me a fanboi and 3) and assume that I or any frequent list contributors would
be offended by such an assertion illustrates an immaturity on the order of a
typical five year old.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Matthew Bullock  wrote:

>  If you were posting in this thread for any other reason than being a MSB
> fanboi I might entertain you
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:35 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> Define tested thoroughly?
>
>
>
> So, how does the restore time compare to 12.5?  I've seen so many
> orgs/people say, yeah, I'm backing up and they go to their backup only to
> see it's failed but logging, verification, etc failed to identify the
> failures.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Matthew Bullock 
> wrote:
>
> Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to 2010
> R2 it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you’re so worried
> about what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until then, why
> are you even commenting?
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> MongoDB is web-scale.
>
>
>
> It’s as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.
>
>
>
> NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/
>
>
>
> Anytime I hear that a backup application is “twice as fast” -  I want to
> know where the bits are going.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
>
> If you haven’t tested a restore, you don’t know HOW it’s worked so far.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> It’s twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it’s worked
> perfectly so far.
>
>
>
> *From:* Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
>
> Are you backing up esxi versions?
>
> If so what are your feelings?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Luke L. Brumbaugh*
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Butler Animal Health Supply
>
> Ph:(614) 659-1736
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Joseph Heaton]

Wow, why the hostility?  Plus, it's MBS, unless you were talking about ASB... :)

Both of which have always been outstanding resources on this list.

>>> Matthew Bullock  11/23/2010 3:46 PM >>>
If you were posting in this thread for any other reason than being a MSB fanboi 
I might entertain you

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Define tested thoroughly?

So, how does the restore time compare to 12.5?  I've seen so many orgs/people 
say, yeah, I'm backing up and they go to their backup only to see it's failed 
but logging, verification, etc failed to identify the failures.


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Matthew Bullock 
mailto:mbull...@root9.com>> wrote:
Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to 2010 R2 
it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you're so worried about 
what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until then, why are you 
even commenting?

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

MongoDB is web-scale.

It's as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.

NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/ 

Anytime I hear that a backup application is "twice as fast" -  I want to know 
where the bits are going.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:


If you haven't tested a restore, you don't know HOW it's worked so far.



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com<mailto:mbull...@root9.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's worked 
perfectly so far.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke 
[mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com<mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736



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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Matthew Bullock]

Ditto, I'll shut up now

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

Because I'm a loud-mouthed a-hole. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to 2010 R2 
it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you're so worried about 
what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until then, why are you 
even commenting?

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

MongoDB is web-scale.

It's as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.

NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/

Anytime I hear that a backup application is "twice as fast" -  I want to know 
where the bits are going.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:

If you haven't tested a restore, you don't know HOW it's worked so far.

Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com<mailto:mbull...@root9.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's worked 
perfectly so far.
From: Brumbaugh, Luke 
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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2
Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?

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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Matthew Bullock]

If you were posting in this thread for any other reason than being a MSB fanboi 
I might entertain you

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Define tested thoroughly?

So, how does the restore time compare to 12.5?  I've seen so many orgs/people 
say, yeah, I'm backing up and they go to their backup only to see it's failed 
but logging, verification, etc failed to identify the failures.


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Matthew Bullock 
mailto:mbull...@root9.com>> wrote:
Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to 2010 R2 
it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you're so worried about 
what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until then, why are you 
even commenting?

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

MongoDB is web-scale.

It's as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.

NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/

Anytime I hear that a backup application is "twice as fast" -  I want to know 
where the bits are going.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:


If you haven't tested a restore, you don't know HOW it's worked so far.



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com<mailto:mbull...@root9.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's worked 
perfectly so far.

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?


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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Andrew S. Baker]

I was going to say the same thing... :)


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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  
>
>
>
> If you haven’t tested a restore, you don’t know HOW it’s worked so far.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> It’s twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it’s worked
> perfectly so far.
>
>
>
> *From:* Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
>
> Are you backing up esxi versions?
>
> If so what are your feelings?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Luke L. Brumbaugh*
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Butler Animal Health Supply
>
> Ph:(614) 659-1736
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Jonathan Link]

Define tested thoroughly?

So, how does the restore time compare to 12.5?  I've seen so many
orgs/people say, yeah, I'm backing up and they go to their backup only to
see it's failed but logging, verification, etc failed to identify the
failures.


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Matthew Bullock  wrote:

>  Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to
> 2010 R2 it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you’re so
> worried about what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until
> then, why are you even commenting?
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> MongoDB is web-scale.
>
>
>
> It’s as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.
>
>
>
> NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/
>
>
>
> Anytime I hear that a backup application is “twice as fast” -  I want to
> know where the bits are going.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
>
> If you haven’t tested a restore, you don’t know HOW it’s worked so far.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> It’s twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it’s worked
> perfectly so far.
>
>
>
> *From:* Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
>
> Are you backing up esxi versions?
>
> If so what are your feelings?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Luke L. Brumbaugh*
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Butler Animal Health Supply
>
> Ph:(614) 659-1736
>
>
>
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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Michael B. Smith]

Because I'm a loud-mouthed a-hole. :)

Regards,

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Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to 2010 R2 
it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you're so worried about 
what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until then, why are you 
even commenting?

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

MongoDB is web-scale.

It's as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.

NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/

Anytime I hear that a backup application is "twice as fast" -  I want to know 
where the bits are going.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:

If you haven't tested a restore, you don't know HOW it's worked so far.

Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com<mailto:mbull...@root9.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's worked 
perfectly so far.
From: Brumbaugh, Luke 
[mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com<mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2
Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?

Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Matthew Bullock]

Anyway, tested backups thoroughly, and after we upgraded from 12.5 to 2010 R2 
it takes half the time to back up the same data.  If you're so worried about 
what I have to say then go test and prove me wrong.  Until then, why are you 
even commenting?

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

MongoDB is web-scale.

It's as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.

NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/

Anytime I hear that a backup application is "twice as fast" -  I want to know 
where the bits are going.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:


If you haven't tested a restore, you don't know HOW it's worked so far.



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com<mailto:mbull...@root9.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's worked 
perfectly so far.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke 
[mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com<mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736



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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Jonathan Link]

Wait just a minute.
Are you saying Backup Exec 2010 r2 is webscale?  This changes everything!

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  MongoDB is web-scale.
>
>
>
> It’s as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.
>
>
>
> NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/
>
>
>
> Anytime I hear that a backup application is “twice as fast” -  I want to
> know where the bits are going.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
>
> If you haven’t tested a restore, you don’t know HOW it’s worked so far.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> It’s twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it’s worked
> perfectly so far.
>
>
>
> *From:* Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
>
> Are you backing up esxi versions?
>
> If so what are your feelings?
>
>
>
>
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>
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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Michael B. Smith]

MongoDB is web-scale.

It's as fast as backing up your transactions to /dev/null.

NSFW - http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6995033/

Anytime I hear that a backup application is "twice as fast" -  I want to know 
where the bits are going.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:


If you haven't tested a restore, you don't know HOW it's worked so far.



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/>

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com<mailto:mbull...@root9.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's worked 
perfectly so far.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke 
[mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com<mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?


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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Matthew Bullock]

I'd love to test it but the LTO loader broke.  Can't even back up at this point 
and can't get funding to replace it

All the 12.5 restores worked great though FWIW.

-matt


From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2



If you haven't tested a restore, you don't know HOW it's worked so far.



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's worked 
perfectly so far.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Jonathan Link]

That's not cynicism.  It's professional skepticism.



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  
>
>
>
> If you haven’t tested a restore, you don’t know HOW it’s worked so far.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> It’s twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it’s worked
> perfectly so far.
>
>
>
> *From:* Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Backup exec 2010 r2
>
>
>
> Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
>
> Are you backing up esxi versions?
>
> If so what are your feelings?
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Michael B. Smith]

If you haven't tested a restore, you don't know HOW it's worked so far.



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Matthew Bullock [mailto:mbull...@root9.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's worked 
perfectly so far.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Matthew Bullock]

It's twice as fast as BE 12.5.  Havent tested a restore yet but it's worked 
perfectly so far.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

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RE: Hijack - Veeam - was RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Level Five - List]

We just switched from BEX 12 to Veeam 5 for backups. Its not going as well
as planned, but the config and setup is nice. Im not getting the kind of
throughput I would expect, but veeam is working with me to determine why its
failing over to network mode. 

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hijack - Veeam - was RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

 

Just for a benchmark.

 

I haven't used it for anything more then backing up some VM's, but get about
50mb/s going across the local lan .



 

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:

Veeam is good for monitoring and mapping your vmware environment. It (Veeam
reporter, at least) is licensed per processor (not per core) if you're over
6 procs.

Its good stuff, but it is also quite expensive. If you need to be able to
monitor server sprawl (if that is a problem for you) then I would recommend
it.

Needless to say, it is a luxury, not a requirement. In my little ideal
world, I wouldn't want to run without it. But could I? Sure thing.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com <http://www.eaglemds.com/> 


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone here able to speak about something called VEEAM? Got a consultant who
wants to get it for us to use to manage a couple virtualized servers. They
said we'd need the paid-for version of VMWARE. :-(



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works.
--
Sent using BlackBerry


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Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[James Rankin]

+1 on the file level restores for Windows guest VMs. Very nifty.

On 18 November 2010 14:51, Kramer, Jack  wrote:

> Some experience with vRanger – a little bit of a pain to set up, amazing
> when it works; however, SAN or NAS issues cripple it. Also has problems with
> very large (1TB+) VMs – the ESX server has a tendency to get stuck forever
> at taking the snapshot of the VM and you'll lose some performance not to
> mention a failed backup or twelve. File level restore of Windows guests is
> an amazing feature though.
> 
> Jack Kramer
> Computer Systems Specialist
> University Relations, Michigan State University
> w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955
>
> From: Harry Singh 
> Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:27:58 -0500
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
> I'm torn between getting the licenses necessary to augment my current BE
> 2010 setup, VEAM or vRanger for backing up my VM's. curious to see if anyone
> has any experiences with any of these platforms.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Cameron  wrote:
>
>> I've played with VEEAM fairly recently for my ESXi box. Seemed to work ok
>> and the speed on this version was not bad at all. I remember trying it
>> before and the version then had REALLY bad performance.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:16 PM, John Aldrich <
>> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone here able to speak about something called VEEAM? Got a consultant
>>> who wants to get it for us to use to manage a couple virtualized servers.
>>> They said we'd need the paid-for version of VMWARE. :-(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:41 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>>>
>>> Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works.
>>> --
>>> Sent using BlackBerry
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 02:37 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues 
>>> Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2
>>>
>>> Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
>>> Are you backing up esxi versions?
>>> If so what are your feelings?
>>>
>>>
>>> Luke L. Brumbaugh
>>> Network Engineer
>>> Butler Animal Health Supply
>>> Ph:(614) 659-1736
>>>
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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Kramer, Jack]

Some experience with vRanger – a little bit of a pain to set up, amazing when 
it works; however, SAN or NAS issues cripple it. Also has problems with very 
large (1TB+) VMs – the ESX server has a tendency to get stuck forever at taking 
the snapshot of the VM and you'll lose some performance not to mention a failed 
backup or twelve. File level restore of Windows guests is an amazing feature 
though.

Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

From: Harry Singh mailto:hbo...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:27:58 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

I'm torn between getting the licenses necessary to augment my current BE 2010 
setup, VEAM or vRanger for backing up my VM's. curious to see if anyone has any 
experiences with any of these platforms.


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Cameron 
mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've played with VEEAM fairly recently for my ESXi box. Seemed to work ok and 
the speed on this version was not bad at all. I remember trying it before and 
the version then had REALLY bad performance.


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:16 PM, John Aldrich 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
Anyone here able to speak about something called VEEAM? Got a consultant who 
wants to get it for us to use to manage a couple virtualized servers. They said 
we'd need the paid-for version of VMWARE. :-(



From: Damien Solodow 
[mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu<mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu>]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works.
--
Sent using BlackBerry


From: Brumbaugh, Luke 
[mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com<mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 02:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?


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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[John Aldrich]

The plan was to have VEEAM running to keep two physical machines in sync 
running the same VMs on both (or at least having a "hot backup" of the other 
server on another physical machine) and to use something like Backup Exec to 
back up the VMs.



From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

I'm torn between getting the licenses necessary to augment my current BE 2010 
setup, VEAM or vRanger for backing up my VM's. curious to see if anyone has any 
experiences with any of these platforms.


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Cameron  wrote:
I've played with VEEAM fairly recently for my ESXi box. Seemed to work ok and 
the speed on this version was not bad at all. I remember trying it before and 
the version then had REALLY bad performance.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:16 PM, John Aldrich  
wrote:
Anyone here able to speak about something called VEEAM? Got a consultant who 
wants to get it for us to use to manage a couple virtualized servers. They said 
we'd need the paid-for version of VMWARE. :-(



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works.
--
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From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 02:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[John Aldrich]

No, I think the idea was that it would keep two boxes synchronous, so that if 
the VM failed on one, I could bring the same, exact VM up on another machine 
easily.




-Original Message-
From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

They have products to enhance management and backup virtual guests, but you 
dont NEED them in order to run VM's 

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone here able to speak about something called VEEAM? Got a consultant who 
wants to get it for us to use to manage a couple virtualized servers. They said 
we'd need the paid-for version of VMWARE. :-(



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works. 
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Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2 
 
Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
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Re: Hijack - Veeam - was RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Cameron]

Just for a benchmark.

I haven't used it for anything more then backing up some VM's, but get about
50mb/s going across the local lan .



On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

> Veeam is good for monitoring and mapping your vmware environment. It (Veeam
> reporter, at least) is licensed per processor (not per core) if you're over
> 6 procs.
>
> Its good stuff, but it is also quite expensive. If you need to be able to
> monitor server sprawl (if that is a problem for you) then I would recommend
> it.
>
> Needless to say, it is a luxury, not a requirement. In my little ideal
> world, I wouldn't want to run without it. But could I? Sure thing.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:17 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
> Anyone here able to speak about something called VEEAM? Got a consultant
> who wants to get it for us to use to manage a couple virtualized servers.
> They said we'd need the paid-for version of VMWARE. :-(
>
>
>
> From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:41 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
> Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works.
> --
> Sent using BlackBerry
>
>
> From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 02:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
> Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
> Are you backing up esxi versions?
> If so what are your feelings?
>
>
> Luke L. Brumbaugh
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> Ph:(614) 659-1736
>
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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Harry Singh]

I'm torn between getting the licenses necessary to augment my current BE
2010 setup, VEAM or vRanger for backing up my VM's. curious to see if anyone
has any experiences with any of these platforms.


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Cameron  wrote:

> I've played with VEEAM fairly recently for my ESXi box. Seemed to work ok
> and the speed on this version was not bad at all. I remember trying it
> before and the version then had REALLY bad performance.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:16 PM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone here able to speak about something called VEEAM? Got a consultant
>> who wants to get it for us to use to manage a couple virtualized servers.
>> They said we'd need the paid-for version of VMWARE. :-(
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:41 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>>
>> Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works.
>> --
>> Sent using BlackBerry
>>
>>
>> From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 02:37 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues 
>> Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2
>>
>> Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
>> Are you backing up esxi versions?
>> If so what are your feelings?
>>
>>
>> Luke L. Brumbaugh
>> Network Engineer
>> Butler Animal Health Supply
>> Ph:(614) 659-1736
>>
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Hijack - Veeam - was RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Veeam is good for monitoring and mapping your vmware environment. It (Veeam 
reporter, at least) is licensed per processor (not per core) if you're over 6 
procs.

Its good stuff, but it is also quite expensive. If you need to be able to 
monitor server sprawl (if that is a problem for you) then I would recommend it.

Needless to say, it is a luxury, not a requirement. In my little ideal world, I 
wouldn't want to run without it. But could I? Sure thing.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone here able to speak about something called VEEAM? Got a consultant who 
wants to get it for us to use to manage a couple virtualized servers. They said 
we'd need the paid-for version of VMWARE. :-(



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works.
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From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 02:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?


Luke L. Brumbaugh
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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Garcia-Moran, Carlos]

They have products to enhance management and backup virtual guests, but you 
don’t NEED them in order to run VM's 

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

Anyone here able to speak about something called VEEAM? Got a consultant who 
wants to get it for us to use to manage a couple virtualized servers. They said 
we'd need the paid-for version of VMWARE. :-(



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works. 
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From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 02:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2 
 
Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?


Luke L. Brumbaugh
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Butler Animal Health Supply
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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Cameron]

I've played with VEEAM fairly recently for my ESXi box. Seemed to work ok
and the speed on this version was not bad at all. I remember trying it
before and the version then had REALLY bad performance.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:16 PM, John Aldrich
wrote:

> Anyone here able to speak about something called VEEAM? Got a consultant
> who wants to get it for us to use to manage a couple virtualized servers.
> They said we'd need the paid-for version of VMWARE. :-(
>
>
>
> From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:41 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
> Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works.
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>
>
> From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 02:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2
>
> Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
> Are you backing up esxi versions?
> If so what are your feelings?
>
>
> Luke L. Brumbaugh
> Network Engineer
> Butler Animal Health Supply
> Ph:(614) 659-1736
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RE: Backup exec 2010 r2

[John Aldrich]

Anyone here able to speak about something called VEEAM? Got a consultant who 
wants to get it for us to use to manage a couple virtualized servers. They said 
we'd need the paid-for version of VMWARE. :-(



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works. 
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From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 02:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues  
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2 
 
Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?
Are you backing up esxi versions?
If so what are your feelings?


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
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Re: Backup exec 2010 r2

[Damien Solodow]

Yep. ESX and ESXi 4.1 and it just works. 
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From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 02:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues  
Subject: Backup exec 2010 r2 
 


Anyone using backup exec 2010 r2 with VMWare agent?

Are you backing up esxi versions?

If so what are your feelings?

 

 

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

 



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Re: Backup Exec 2010

[Roger Wright]

I upgraded last week.  It went smoothly enough, just like going from
11 to 12.  All new agents so be prepared for reboots.  Haven't done
anything with the dedupe inclusion.

We're just backing up our Exchange infostore, the daily vRanger
backups, and a couple other servers via the agents.


Die dulci fruere!

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On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Charlie Kaiser
 wrote:
> Anyone running it yet? We have a bunch of clients on 12.5 and they're
> getting "upgrade availability" notices. We're going to set it up and test,
> but I'd like to know what others have seen... Thanks.
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RE: Backup Exec 2010

[Bill Lambert]

Haven't run it yet.  Just got my upgrade letter yesterday after opening a 
support case to get it!

Bill Lambert
Concuity
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Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup Exec 2010

Anyone running it yet? We have a bunch of clients on 12.5 and they're
getting "upgrade availability" notices. We're going to set it up and test,
but I'd like to know what others have seen... Thanks.

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Re: Backup Exec 2010?

[drkuhlman]

Agree
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-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Link 
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:55:42 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 2010?

Other than the vendor?

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> Any caveats regarding making the move to BE 2010?
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
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>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Backup Exec 2010?

[Jeff Johnson]

Scott,

How does MS DPM compare to Symantec BE?  What is the storage size difference?  
Ease of recovery?  Are you familiar with BESR?  Can I recover individual files 
by mounting a backup?

Thanks,

Jeff Johnson
Systems Administrator
714-773-2600 Office
714-773-6351 Fax
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From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 2010?

My decision to drop Symantec BE for Microsoft DPM, Anti-Virus for Vipre, and 
Ghost for RIS/WDM is due in no small part to their ridiculous licensing system. 
 Maybe it's just me, but I have the hardest time jumping through their hoops to 
get my magic key. Half the time, the site was down. Often the license 
certificate listed a serial number, but they wanted a product code...or 
registration code...or PO number...or who knows what.  I assure you the pirates 
aren't having as much trouble installing as this *former* customer did.

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 2010?

I'm still waiting for my upgrade letter from Symantec.  I think that speaks 
volumes.

Bill Lambert
Concuity
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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 2010?

Other than the vendor?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Roger Wright 
mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Any caveats regarding making the move to BE 2010?


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
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RE: Backup Exec 2010?

[James Hill]

Yes.  It's a Symantec product.

We have BE 12.5 and I don't think there has ever been a stage where it has just 
worked, all the time.  That applies for pretty much any Symantec product though 
it seems.

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 7:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup Exec 2010?

Any caveats regarding making the move to BE 2010?


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
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RE: Backup Exec 2010?

[Crawford, Scott]

My decision to drop Symantec BE for Microsoft DPM, Anti-Virus for Vipre,
and Ghost for RIS/WDM is due in no small part to their ridiculous
licensing system.  Maybe it's just me, but I have the hardest time
jumping through their hoops to get my magic key. Half the time, the site
was down. Often the license certificate listed a serial number, but they
wanted a product code...or registration code...or PO number...or who
knows what.  I assure you the pirates aren't having as much trouble
installing as this *former* customer did.

 

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 2010?

 

I'm still waiting for my upgrade letter from Symantec.  I think that
speaks volumes.

 

Bill Lambert

Concuity

Phone  847-941-9206

 

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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 2010?

 

Other than the vendor?

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

Any caveats regarding making the move to BE 2010? 



Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
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RE: Backup Exec 2010?

[Bill Lambert]

I'm still waiting for my upgrade letter from Symantec.  I think that
speaks volumes.

 

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Concuity

Phone  847-941-9206

 

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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 2010?

 

Other than the vendor?

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

Any caveats regarding making the move to BE 2010? 



Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
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Re: Backup Exec 2010?

[Jonathan Link]

Other than the vendor?

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> Any caveats regarding making the move to BE 2010?
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
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