RE: Blade systems

[RM]

Why not Citrix?  Shared memory technology works very well on
these types of workloads... There are lots of redundant memory
pages in a heavily used Citrix box.

RM


On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:33:59 -0400, "Tom Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sai
d:

Not for Citrix servers, and some of them will be Citrix/TS
servers.  But a few of the blades will be virtual servers for
applications/web pages.



I'll still need new hardware for that in any case.

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RE: Blade systems

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

We have the HP c7000 Bladesystem which holds 8 fullheight or 16 half-height
blades. You could look at the c3000 Bladesystem if you are interested in HP
Blades. It holds 4 full height or 8 half-height blades. VMware ESX server
is running on all 16 blades. We have Terminal Server /Citrix servers,
Domain controllers , file servers, and lots of other servers running as
VM's. Terminal Server /Citrix servers will run fine, however, they will not
scale like physical servers. If you are getting 80 on a physical box, you
are probably going to get around 40 on a Citrix VM.

Mike

Original Message:
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From: Tom Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:15:40 -0400
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Blade systems


Hi Folks:
 
I'm in the market for a new blade chassis and eventually blades to fill up
the chassis.  I am not partial to any particular vendor although most of
our equipment is Dell.  We currently have a Dell blade chassis that is full
and holds nine blades.
 
When I contacted Dell the newest version is a chassis that holds up to 16
blades.  That's great except the chassis is now three times more costly
than what I paid for a chassis two years ago.  At $15,000 for a basic
chassis configuration, that's a lot to spend for a mid-sized non-profit
agency.  Acknowledging the redundency and power efficiency, I could instead
purchase several servers for that amount.  
 
Recommendations?  I'd like to get a new blade system but I need to afford
it.  These blades will be file and print, application.  No attached storage
or SAN/clustering (at least now).
 
Tom

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RE: Blade systems

[Ziots, Edward]

Defintely look at Blades, and Virtualization, ESX/ and HP blades are
making the grade these days, very nicely. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505



From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blade systems

 

Tom, have you considered consolidating and virtualizing? Or is it
virtualizing and consolidating?

In the long run it would probably be more cost effective.

 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Blade systems

 

Hi Folks:

 

I'm in the market for a new blade chassis and eventually blades to fill
up the chassis.  I am not partial to any particular vendor although most
of our equipment is Dell.  We currently have a Dell blade chassis that
is full and holds nine blades.

 

When I contacted Dell the newest version is a chassis that holds up to
16 blades.  That's great except the chassis is now three times more
costly than what I paid for a chassis two years ago.  At $15,000 for a
basic chassis configuration, that's a lot to spend for a mid-sized
non-profit agency.  Acknowledging the redundency and power efficiency, I
could instead purchase several servers for that amount.  

 

Recommendations?  I'd like to get a new blade system but I need to
afford it.  These blades will be file and print, application.  No
attached storage or SAN/clustering (at least now).

 

Tom

 

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RE: Blade systems

[Tom Miller]

Not for Citrix servers, and some of them will be Citrix/TS servers.  But a few 
of the blades will be virtual servers for applications/web pages.
 
I'll still need new hardware for that in any case.

>>> "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/11/2008 11:29 AM >>>

Tom, have you considered consolidating and virtualizing? Or is it virtualizing 
and consolidating?
In the long run it would probably be more cost effective.
 
 

From:Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Blade systems

 

Hi Folks:

 

I'm in the market for a new blade chassis and eventually blades to fill up the 
chassis.  I am not partial to any particular vendor although most of our 
equipment is Dell.  We currently have a Dell blade chassis that is full and 
holds nine blades.

 

When I contacted Dell the newest version is a chassis that holds up to 16 
blades.  That's great except the chassis is now three times more costly than 
what I paid for a chassis two years ago.  At $15,000 for a basic chassis 
configuration, that's a lot to spend for a mid-sized non-profit agency.  
Acknowledging the redundency and power efficiency, I could instead purchase 
several servers for that amount.  

 

Recommendations?  I'd like to get a new blade system but I need to afford it.  
These blades will be file and print, application.  No attached storage or 
SAN/clustering (at least now).

 

Tom

 
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RE: Blade systems

[Martin Blackstone]

Tom, have you considered consolidating and virtualizing? Or is it
virtualizing and consolidating?

In the long run it would probably be more cost effective.

 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Blade systems

 

Hi Folks:

 

I'm in the market for a new blade chassis and eventually blades to fill up
the chassis.  I am not partial to any particular vendor although most of our
equipment is Dell.  We currently have a Dell blade chassis that is full and
holds nine blades.

 

When I contacted Dell the newest version is a chassis that holds up to 16
blades.  That's great except the chassis is now three times more costly than
what I paid for a chassis two years ago.  At $15,000 for a basic chassis
configuration, that's a lot to spend for a mid-sized non-profit agency.
Acknowledging the redundency and power efficiency, I could instead purchase
several servers for that amount.  

 

Recommendations?  I'd like to get a new blade system but I need to afford
it.  These blades will be file and print, application.  No attached storage
or SAN/clustering (at least now).

 

Tom

 

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