Re: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

2012-12-12 Thread Andrew S. Baker
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  I almost always see extra entries hanging around in _msdcs that need to
> be manually cleaned up.
>
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> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:17 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+
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> It is that easy.  Right-click the dead DC in ADUC, select delete and you
> are done.
>
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>
> I, personally, would still verify the DNS stuff for the dead DC is gone.**
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> Thanks
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> Webster
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> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ]
> *Subject:* Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+
>
>  ** **
>
> You can clean up dead DC metadata from a GUI in 2008 and later? Just use
> ADUC and Sites and Services per this article:
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc816907(WS.10).aspx
>
> ** **
>
> I have a dead DC that held no FSMO roles or anything else (DHCP, etc.),
> has anyone used this GUI method and still had to resort to command-line?**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Seems too easy…lol
>
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RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

2012-12-11 Thread Brian Desmond
Correct - records with a timestamp of 0 (GUI calls them static records) never 
get cleaned up.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

IIRC from what Brian Desmond told me, static DNS entries get flagged as 
untouchable.  At least as far as Aging & Scavenging is concerned but I think 
that would apply to any process that wants to do automated cleanup.

Thanks


Webster

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Subject: RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

Good point and yes I did check DNS and found only a static entry. Sites and 
Services showed a it a as replication partner but it had additional "stuff" 
behind the name that made me think at next replication it might get removed, 
but I manually killed the entry. That's so much easier it's almost scary.

DCDIAG on the other DC's come up good!

Dave

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Subject: RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

It is that easy.  Right-click the dead DC in ADUC, select delete and you are 
done.

I, personally, would still verify the DNS stuff for the dead DC is gone.

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RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

2012-12-11 Thread Brian Desmond
You have to manually enable scavenging for that zone (and on a server to do it) 
which folks often don't do.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

I almost always see extra entries hanging around in _msdcs that need to be 
manually cleaned up.

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

It is that easy.  Right-click the dead DC in ADUC, select delete and you are 
done.

I, personally, would still verify the DNS stuff for the dead DC is gone.

Thanks


Webster

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Subject: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

You can clean up dead DC metadata from a GUI in 2008 and later? Just use ADUC 
and Sites and Services per this article:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc816907(WS.10).aspx

I have a dead DC that held no FSMO roles or anything else (DHCP, etc.), has 
anyone used this GUI method and still had to resort to command-line?

Seems too easy...lol

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RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

2012-12-11 Thread David Lum
I'm chasing this, but only on the DC I just stood up to replace the old one 
(new one reuses the old IP, but a different name). The other DC's aren't 
logging it: DCOM was unable to communicate with the computer  using any 
of the configured protocols

One thing I've found so far is name servers...the name server entries for the 
now-dead DC continued to exist in DNS, so I'm killing that from each zone 
(forward and reverse).

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

I almost always see extra entries hanging around in _msdcs that need to be 
manually cleaned up.

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

It is that easy.  Right-click the dead DC in ADUC, select delete and you are 
done.

I, personally, would still verify the DNS stuff for the dead DC is gone.

Thanks


Webster

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Subject: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

You can clean up dead DC metadata from a GUI in 2008 and later? Just use ADUC 
and Sites and Services per this article:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc816907(WS.10).aspx

I have a dead DC that held no FSMO roles or anything else (DHCP, etc.), has 
anyone used this GUI method and still had to resort to command-line?

Seems too easy...lol

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RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

2012-12-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
I almost always see extra entries hanging around in _msdcs that need to be 
manually cleaned up.

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

It is that easy.  Right-click the dead DC in ADUC, select delete and you are 
done.

I, personally, would still verify the DNS stuff for the dead DC is gone.

Thanks


Webster

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Subject: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

You can clean up dead DC metadata from a GUI in 2008 and later? Just use ADUC 
and Sites and Services per this article:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc816907(WS.10).aspx

I have a dead DC that held no FSMO roles or anything else (DHCP, etc.), has 
anyone used this GUI method and still had to resort to command-line?

Seems too easy...lol

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RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

2012-12-11 Thread Webster
IIRC from what Brian Desmond told me, static DNS entries get flagged as 
untouchable.  At least as far as Aging & Scavenging is concerned but I think 
that would apply to any process that wants to do automated cleanup.

Thanks


Webster

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Subject: RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

Good point and yes I did check DNS and found only a static entry. Sites and 
Services showed a it a as replication partner but it had additional "stuff" 
behind the name that made me think at next replication it might get removed, 
but I manually killed the entry. That's so much easier it's almost scary.

DCDIAG on the other DC's come up good!

Dave

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Subject: RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

It is that easy.  Right-click the dead DC in ADUC, select delete and you are 
done.

I, personally, would still verify the DNS stuff for the dead DC is gone.

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RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

2012-12-11 Thread David Lum
Good point and yes I did check DNS and found only a static entry. Sites and 
Services showed a it a as replication partner but it had additional "stuff" 
behind the name that made me think at next replication it might get removed, 
but I manually killed the entry. That's so much easier it's almost scary.

DCDIAG on the other DC's come up good!

Dave

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

It is that easy.  Right-click the dead DC in ADUC, select delete and you are 
done.

I, personally, would still verify the DNS stuff for the dead DC is gone.

Thanks


Webster

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Subject: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

You can clean up dead DC metadata from a GUI in 2008 and later? Just use ADUC 
and Sites and Services per this article:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc816907(WS.10).aspx

I have a dead DC that held no FSMO roles or anything else (DHCP, etc.), has 
anyone used this GUI method and still had to resort to command-line?

Seems too easy...lol

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RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

2012-12-11 Thread Webster
It is that easy.  Right-click the dead DC in ADUC, select delete and you are 
done.

I, personally, would still verify the DNS stuff for the dead DC is gone.

Thanks


Webster

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Subject: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

You can clean up dead DC metadata from a GUI in 2008 and later? Just use ADUC 
and Sites and Services per this article:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc816907(WS.10).aspx

I have a dead DC that held no FSMO roles or anything else (DHCP, etc.), has 
anyone used this GUI method and still had to resort to command-line?

Seems too easy...lol

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RE: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

2012-12-11 Thread Damien Solodow
I've used it once and it seemed to do the trick.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dead DC cleanup via GUI in 2008+

You can clean up dead DC metadata from a GUI in 2008 and later? Just use ADUC 
and Sites and Services per this article:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc816907(WS.10).aspx

I have a dead DC that held no FSMO roles or anything else (DHCP, etc.), has 
anyone used this GUI method and still had to resort to command-line?

Seems too easy...lol
David Lum
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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