Re: Editing Office Files from Outlook

2010-12-02 Thread Andrew S. Baker
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 On Dec 2, 2010 5:12 PM, "Roger Wright"  wrote:
> But will that work consistently?
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> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Carl Houseman 
wrote:
>
>> After saving with Word/Excel, one must *also* close and save changes to
>> the mail message from which the attachment sprang.
>>
>>
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:03 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Editing Office Files from Outlook
>>
>> I occasionally have users who receive Word or Excel attachments, open
them,
>> make edits, and save, only to discover all their changes are lost when
they
>> reopen the attachment. The problem is, sometimes opening and editing
within
>> Outlook sometimes works, but most often, not. I’ve explained several
times
>> that the best way to avoid this is to first save the attachment elsewhere
>> and THEN open it for editing.
>>
>> Why is it that sometimes they’re able to make the edits without
difficulty
>> and others, all changes are lost? Is it that when it does work it’s only
>> due to an anomaly and is an unsupported feature?
>>
>>
>> Roger Wright
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Re: Editing Office Files from Outlook

2010-12-02 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Plus, theres the option  to save the attachment back to the  email, which
will make it available again from that same  email.

Loads of fun.  Can almost always be found in the temp folders...

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 On Dec 2, 2010 4:09 PM, "Bob Hartung"  wrote:
> I believe attachments are first saved to a temporary file directory.
Unless you save what you've done to a different location, it's toast.
>
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> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 15:02:35 -0600
> Subject: Editing Office Files from Outlook
>
>
>
> I occasionally have users who receive Word or Excel attachments, open
them, make edits, and save, only to discover all their changes are lost when
they reopen the attachment. The problem is, sometimes opening and editing
within Outlook sometimes works, but most often, not. I’ve explained several
times that the best way to avoid this is to first save the attachment
elsewhere and THEN open it for editing.
>
>
>
>
>
> Why is it that sometimes they’re able to make the edits without difficulty
and others, all changes are lost? Is it that when it does work it’s only due
to an anomaly and is an unsupported feature?
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
> Life isn't like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapenos:
what you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.
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RE: Editing Office Files from Outlook

2010-12-02 Thread Malcolm Reitz
I'm with Carl - you have to save the email message after editing the
attachment.

 

-Malcolm

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 16:41
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Editing Office Files from Outlook

 

It's always worked for me.  Of course it's confusing for users, sometimes a
message close will prompt to save changes when no changes were apparently
made such as viewing a PDF attachment.  I get that all the time.

 

Carl

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Editing Office Files from Outlook

 

But will that work consistently? 


Roger Wright
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Carl Houseman  wrote:

After saving with Word/Excel, one must also close and save changes to the
mail message from which the attachment sprang. 

 

Carl

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:03 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Editing Office Files from Outlook

I occasionally have users who receive Word or Excel attachments, open them,
make edits, and save, only to discover all their changes are lost when they
reopen the attachment.  The problem is, sometimes opening and editing within
Outlook sometimes works, but most often, not.  I've explained several times
that the best way to avoid this is to first save the attachment elsewhere
and THEN open it for editing.  

Why is it that sometimes they're able to make the edits without difficulty
and others, all changes are lost?   Is it that when it does work it's only
due to an anomaly and is an unsupported feature?


Roger Wright

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RE: Editing Office Files from Outlook

2010-12-02 Thread Carl Houseman
It's always worked for me.  Of course it's confusing for users, sometimes a
message close will prompt to save changes when no changes were apparently
made such as viewing a PDF attachment.  I get that all the time.

 

Carl

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Editing Office Files from Outlook

 

But will that work consistently? 


Roger Wright
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you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.






On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Carl Houseman  wrote:

After saving with Word/Excel, one must also close and save changes to the
mail message from which the attachment sprang. 

 

Carl

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:03 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Editing Office Files from Outlook

I occasionally have users who receive Word or Excel attachments, open them,
make edits, and save, only to discover all their changes are lost when they
reopen the attachment.  The problem is, sometimes opening and editing within
Outlook sometimes works, but most often, not.  I've explained several times
that the best way to avoid this is to first save the attachment elsewhere
and THEN open it for editing.  

Why is it that sometimes they're able to make the edits without difficulty
and others, all changes are lost?   Is it that when it does work it's only
due to an anomaly and is an unsupported feature?


Roger Wright

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Re: Editing Office Files from Outlook

2010-12-02 Thread Roger Wright
But will that work consistently?


Roger Wright
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you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.




On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Carl Houseman  wrote:

> After saving with Word/Excel, one must *also* close and save changes to
> the mail message from which the attachment sprang.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:03 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Editing Office Files from Outlook
>
> I occasionally have users who receive Word or Excel attachments, open them,
> make edits, and save, only to discover all their changes are lost when they
> reopen the attachment.  The problem is, sometimes opening and editing within
> Outlook sometimes works, but most often, not.  I’ve explained several times
> that the best way to avoid this is to first save the attachment elsewhere
> and THEN open it for editing.
>
> Why is it that sometimes they’re able to make the edits without difficulty
> and others, all changes are lost?   Is it that when it does work it’s only
> due to an anomaly and is an unsupported feature?
>
>
> Roger Wright
>
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RE: Editing Office Files from Outlook

2010-12-02 Thread Carl Houseman
After saving with Word/Excel, one must also close and save changes to the
mail message from which the attachment sprang. 

 

Carl

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Editing Office Files from Outlook

I occasionally have users who receive Word or Excel attachments, open them,
make edits, and save, only to discover all their changes are lost when they
reopen the attachment.  The problem is, sometimes opening and editing within
Outlook sometimes works, but most often, not.  I've explained several times
that the best way to avoid this is to first save the attachment elsewhere
and THEN open it for editing.  

Why is it that sometimes they're able to make the edits without difficulty
and others, all changes are lost?   Is it that when it does work it's only
due to an anomaly and is an unsupported feature?


Roger Wright


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Re: Editing Office Files from Outlook

2010-12-02 Thread Bob Hartung
I believe attachments are first saved to a temporary file directory. Unless you 
save what you've done to a different location, it's toast.

--

Bob Hartung
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
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From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 15:02:35 -0600
Subject: Editing Office Files from Outlook



I occasionally have users who receive Word or Excel  attachments, open them, 
make edits, and save, only to discover all their  changes are lost when they 
reopen the attachment.  The problem is, sometimes opening and editing  within 
Outlook sometimes works, but most often, not.  I’ve explained several times 
that the best way to avoid this is to first save the attachment elsewhere and 
THEN open it for editing.  



 

Why is it that sometimes they’re able to make the edits  without difficulty and 
others, all changes are lost?   Is it that when it does work it’s only due to  
an anomaly and is an unsupported feature?

Roger Wright
___


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you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.



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RE: Editing Office Files from Outlook

2010-12-02 Thread Michael B. Smith
Different versions of Outlook store attachments in different ways.

I don't remember all the details, but there is a whitepaper on this at 
Slipstick.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Editing Office Files from Outlook

I occasionally have users who receive Word or Excel attachments, open them, 
make edits, and save, only to discover all their changes are lost when they 
reopen the attachment.  The problem is, sometimes opening and editing within 
Outlook sometimes works, but most often, not.  I've explained several times 
that the best way to avoid this is to first save the attachment elsewhere and 
THEN open it for editing.

Why is it that sometimes they're able to make the edits without difficulty and 
others, all changes are lost?   Is it that when it does work it's only due to 
an anomaly and is an unsupported feature?


Roger Wright
___
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you do today might burn your butt tomorrow.


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RE: Editing Office Files from Outlook

2010-12-02 Thread John Aldrich
Well, not sure why it *ever* works, but I think the reason it *doesn't* is
because they are caching a copy of the attachment and editing the cached
copy, so when they save it, they're saving it back to cache.



From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Editing Office Files from Outlook

I occasionally have users who receive Word or Excel attachments, open them,
make edits, and save, only to discover all their changes are lost when they
reopen the attachment.  The problem is, sometimes opening and editing within
Outlook sometimes works, but most often, not.  I’ve explained several times
that the best way to avoid this is to first save the attachment elsewhere
and THEN open it for editing.  
 
Why is it that sometimes they’re able to make the edits without difficulty
and others, all changes are lost?   Is it that when it does work it’s only
due to an anomaly and is an unsupported feature?


Roger Wright
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