RE: Forefront client security

2013-03-22 Thread Ken Schaefer 
The Windows Defender in Win8 does the same as MSE (AFAICT), so it's just a 
name/rebranding exercise.

Cheers
Ken

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com]
Sent: Saturday, 23 March 2013 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Forefront client security

I think they are planning to at some point to kill of Security Essentials 
unless they decide to allow it to be installed on Win 8 machines.  Those 
machines come with Defender as the malware protection.  I am not to sure about 
that but I only have one running at home and so far I haven't seen anything bit 
it yet.

Jon

> From: mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu<mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu>
> To: 
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:04:17 -0700
> Subject: RE: Forefront client security
>
> +1
>
> I heard they will just be calling it Endpoint Protection. The home version is 
> still Security Essentials at this time.
>
> 
> From: Art DeKneef [art.dekn...@cox.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:30 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Forefront client security
>
> From what I remember.
>
> Forefront Client Security was the original product/name. The name changed to 
> Forefront Endpoint Protection with the initial System Center products. It is 
> now called System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection.
>
> I wonder what it will be called next?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Forefront client security
>
> How is this different from SCEP?



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RE: Forefront client security

2013-03-22 Thread Jon Harris 

I think they are planning to at some point to kill of Security Essentials 
unless they decide to allow it to be installed on Win 8 machines.  Those 
machines come with Defender as the malware protection.  I am not to sure about 
that but I only have one running at home and so far I haven't seen anything bit 
it yet. Jon
 > From: mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:04:17 -0700
> Subject: RE: Forefront client security
> 
> +1
> 
> I heard they will just be calling it Endpoint Protection.  The home version 
> is still Security Essentials at this time.
> 
> 
> From: Art DeKneef [art.dekn...@cox.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:30 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Forefront client security
> 
> From what I remember.
> 
> Forefront Client Security was the original product/name. The name changed to 
> Forefront Endpoint Protection with the initial System Center products. It is 
> now called System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection.
> 
> I wonder what it will be called next?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Forefront client security
> 
> How is this different from SCEP?
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RE: Forefront client security

2013-03-22 Thread Miller Bonnie L . 
+1

I heard they will just be calling it Endpoint Protection.  The home version is 
still Security Essentials at this time.


From: Art DeKneef [art.dekn...@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Forefront client security

>From what I remember.

Forefront Client Security was the original product/name. The name changed to 
Forefront Endpoint Protection with the initial System Center products. It is 
now called System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection.

I wonder what it will be called next?

-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Forefront client security

How is this different from SCEP?
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RE: Forefront client security

2013-03-21 Thread Art DeKneef 
>From what I remember.

Forefront Client Security was the original product/name. The name changed to 
Forefront Endpoint Protection with the initial System Center products. It is 
now called System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection.

I wonder what it will be called next?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Forefront client security

How is this different from SCEP?
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Re: Forefront client security

2013-03-21 Thread Matthew W. Ross 
Isn't Forefront the "Home/SMB" version?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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RE: Forefront Client Security

2010-04-01 Thread Brian Desmond 
It's also very competitively priced as part of the eCAL step-up. If you license 
through the consolidated CAL options all the Forefront stuff is included in the 
eCAL step up so it's something very attractive to look at from a dollars 
perspective as well. 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security

I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the client 
software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or cause 
weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, "a smidge complicated." I'd go further 
than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at all 
user-friendly.

Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the "SecurityTools" 
malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is regularly 
modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with FCS's 
definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft modifies defs 
to detect it, then another slightly different version comes out. The malware 
always seems to be a step ahead of FCS.

Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single one 
of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software 
restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite 
effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to 
security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware 
regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get 
infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup took 
about 30 seconds.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us






-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security

I use it.

Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's.

It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you
I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs
like that. It just runs, properly.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Forefront Client Security

Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering 
if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.

I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use, and 
deploy to clients, etc?


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Re: Forefront Client Security

2010-03-26 Thread Jon Harris 
I've seen it miss some tools that it should have found when they were
dropped onto the machine and not pick them up for a few days.  Not good but
at least no hacks were done or they were blocked if attempted.

Jon

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:47 AM, John Hornbuckle <
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:

> I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the
> client software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or
> cause weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, "a smidge complicated." I'd go
> further than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at
> all user-friendly.
>
> Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the "SecurityTools"
> malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is
> regularly modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with
> FCS's definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft
> modifies defs to detect it, then another slightly different version comes
> out. The malware always seems to be a step ahead of FCS.
>
> Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single
> one of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software
> restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite
> effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to
> security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware
> regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get
> infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup
> took about 30 seconds.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security
>
> I use it.
>
> Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's.
>
> It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you
> I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs
> like that. It just runs, properly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Forefront Client Security
>
> Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was
> wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.
>
> I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use,
> and deploy to clients, etc?
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>
>
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> to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the
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>
>
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>
>

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Re: Forefront Client Security

2010-03-26 Thread Justin Thomas 
That about sums up our experience. I last heard the long awaited next
version is due out the second half of this year. It's been pushed back a
number of times, as they add requested features. I'm hoping that means
improved reporting, and more granular control from the console.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:47 AM, John Hornbuckle <
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:

> I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the
> client software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or
> cause weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, "a smidge complicated." I'd go
> further than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at
> all user-friendly.
>
> Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the "SecurityTools"
> malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is
> regularly modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with
> FCS's definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft
> modifies defs to detect it, then another slightly different version comes
> out. The malware always seems to be a step ahead of FCS.
>
> Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single
> one of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software
> restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite
> effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to
> security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware
> regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get
> infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup
> took about 30 seconds.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security
>
> I use it.
>
> Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's.
>
> It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you
> I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs
> like that. It just runs, properly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Forefront Client Security
>
> Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was
> wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.
>
> I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use,
> and deploy to clients, etc?
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>
>
> NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications
> to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the
> public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to
> public disclosure.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>


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RE: Forefront Client Security

2010-03-26 Thread John Hornbuckle 
I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the client 
software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or cause 
weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, "a smidge complicated." I'd go further 
than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at all 
user-friendly.

Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the "SecurityTools" 
malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is regularly 
modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with FCS's 
definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft modifies defs 
to detect it, then another slightly different version comes out. The malware 
always seems to be a step ahead of FCS.

Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single one 
of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software 
restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite 
effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to 
security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware 
regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get 
infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup took 
about 30 seconds.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us






-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security

I use it.

Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's.

It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you
I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs
like that. It just runs, properly.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Forefront Client Security

Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering 
if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.

I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use, and 
deploy to clients, etc?


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~



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or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and 
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Re: Forefront Client Security

2010-03-25 Thread Jon Harris 
I used it but foind the reporting side left a lot to desire.  It does work
but depending on how you have it installed and reporting you may not get
reports when something bad happens.

Jon

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> We used FF until January of this year.  I inherited the installation
> and like Joe says, it just runs.  I didn't like it, though, because I
> couldn't really tell much of what was it was doing.
>
> However, with FF we battled issues with malware nearly weekly.  Since
> moving to VIPRE in January I can remember only two infections that
> required either manual cleaning or reimaging.
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
> > Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was
> wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.
> >
> > I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually
> use, and deploy to clients, etc?
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
> >
> >
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

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Re: Forefront Client Security

2010-03-25 Thread Roger Wright 
We used FF until January of this year.  I inherited the installation
and like Joe says, it just runs.  I didn't like it, though, because I
couldn't really tell much of what was it was doing.

However, with FF we battled issues with malware nearly weekly.  Since
moving to VIPRE in January I can remember only two infections that
required either manual cleaning or reimaging.


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___




On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
> Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was 
> wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.
>
> I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use, 
> and deploy to clients, etc?
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Forefront Client Security

2010-03-25 Thread Joseph L. Casale 
I use it.

Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's.

It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you
I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs
like that. It just runs, properly.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Forefront Client Security

Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering 
if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.

I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use, and 
deploy to clients, etc?


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


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~   ~