RE: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-24 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Just one thing to say about McCrappy... DAT 5958.

-Paul

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

Poor McAfeeso hated. Actually I shut down the McAfee services and got the 
same error, but the agent was still installed, so I don't know whether this 
counts as a pass or not. I would prefer to test with the whole thing removed to 
be sure.

However as somehow a vDisk in Standard mode managed to come up in Private mode 
and has subsequently written a load of apps into the base server image that 
shouldn't be there, I now have a different problem to solve first. Oh joy.
On 24 February 2012 11:04, Randal, Phil 
mailto:phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk>> wrote:
Only one snag to that thesis...  McCrappy's working fine here.

Cheers,

Phil

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From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 23 February 2012 17:50

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

How much does anyone want to bet that McCrappy is implicated in this?
ASB

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:07 PM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming in to 
the farm
On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan 
mailto:neog...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue with 
NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS 2003 and 
Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on the end user 
machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find something on the AV 
vendor's site?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user is 
asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough server 
storage is available to process this command". Resources are fine, load is low, 
no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security box once logged in. Seems 
rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen before?
TIA,




JRR


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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-24 Thread James Rankin
This setup I've walked into looks worse by the minute. I'm not entirely
sure PVS is suitable for what they are trying to do here. On the bright
side, it may need a lot of work to sort out properly :-)

On 24 February 2012 13:23, Webster  wrote:

>  I tried to use DFS-R for PVS 5.6 SP2 and couldn’t make it work.  That is
> when I found out the only PVS6 supports DFS replicated vDisks. 
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 7:11 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Interesting change password failure
>
>  ** **
>
> 5.1. The replication is done by DFS (not sure whether that's a good idea
> or not)
>
> On 24 February 2012 13:06, Webster  wrote:
>
> What version of PVS and what are you using for vDisk replication?
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
>  
>
> *From:* Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 6:57 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Interesting change password failure
>
>  
>
> That's the thing, its showing as private when booted but the console is
> definitely saying standard. There's a problem with replication of the disk
> images between the PVS stores which I think has caused it, but its
> certainly giving me a major headache. Very weird!
>
> Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird
>  ----------
>
> *From: *Webster  
>
> *Date: *Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:49:41 +
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *RE: Interesting change password failure
>
>  
>
> Standard mode vDisks don’t just “come up” in Private Image mode unless
> someone went into the console and made the change or was a super friggin’
> genius and figured out the extremely cryptic command line to flip the
> switch.
>
>  
>
> Carl Webster****
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
>  
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 5:22 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Interesting change password failure
>
>  
>
> Poor McAfeeso hated. Actually I shut down the McAfee services and got
> the same error, but the agent was still installed, so I don't know whether
> this counts as a pass or not. I would prefer to test with the whole thing
> removed to be sure.
>
> However as somehow a vDisk in Standard mode managed to come up in Private
> mode and has subsequently written a load of apps into the base server image
> that shouldn't be there, I now have a different problem to solve first. Oh
> joy.
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RE: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-24 Thread Webster
I tried to use DFS-R for PVS 5.6 SP2 and couldn't make it work.  That is when I 
found out the only PVS6 supports DFS replicated vDisks.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

5.1. The replication is done by DFS (not sure whether that's a good idea or not)
On 24 February 2012 13:06, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
What version of PVS and what are you using for vDisk replication?


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: Rankin, James R 
[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com<mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:57 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

That's the thing, its showing as private when booted but the console is 
definitely saying standard. There's a problem with replication of the disk 
images between the PVS stores which I think has caused it, but its certainly 
giving me a major headache. Very weird!
Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

From: Webster mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:49:41 +
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Interesting change password failure

Standard mode vDisks don't just "come up" in Private Image mode unless someone 
went into the console and made the change or was a super friggin' genius and 
figured out the extremely cryptic command line to flip the switch.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: James Rankin 
[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]<mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

Poor McAfeeso hated. Actually I shut down the McAfee services and got the 
same error, but the agent was still installed, so I don't know whether this 
counts as a pass or not. I would prefer to test with the whole thing removed to 
be sure.

However as somehow a vDisk in Standard mode managed to come up in Private mode 
and has subsequently written a load of apps into the base server image that 
shouldn't be there, I now have a different problem to solve first. Oh joy.

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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-24 Thread James Rankin
5.1. The replication is done by DFS (not sure whether that's a good idea or
not)

On 24 February 2012 13:06, Webster  wrote:

>  What version of PVS and what are you using for vDisk replication?
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 6:57 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Interesting change password failure
>
>  ** **
>
> That's the thing, its showing as private when booted but the console is
> definitely saying standard. There's a problem with replication of the disk
> images between the PVS stores which I think has caused it, but its
> certainly giving me a major headache. Very weird!
>
> Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird
>  --
>
> *From: *Webster  
>
> *Date: *Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:49:41 +0000
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *RE: Interesting change password failure
>
> ** **
>
> Standard mode vDisks don’t just “come up” in Private Image mode unless
> someone went into the console and made the change or was a super friggin’
> genius and figured out the extremely cryptic command line to flip the
> switch.
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 5:22 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Interesting change password failure
>
> ** **
>
> Poor McAfeeso hated. Actually I shut down the McAfee services and got
> the same error, but the agent was still installed, so I don't know whether
> this counts as a pass or not. I would prefer to test with the whole thing
> removed to be sure.
>
> However as somehow a vDisk in Standard mode managed to come up in Private
> mode and has subsequently written a load of apps into the base server image
> that shouldn't be there, I now have a different problem to solve first. Oh
> joy.
>
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and please pass on any concr

RE: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-24 Thread Webster
What version of PVS and what are you using for vDisk replication?


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

That's the thing, its showing as private when booted but the console is 
definitely saying standard. There's a problem with replication of the disk 
images between the PVS stores which I think has caused it, but its certainly 
giving me a major headache. Very weird!
Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

From: Webster mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:49:41 +
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Interesting change password failure

Standard mode vDisks don't just "come up" in Private Image mode unless someone 
went into the console and made the change or was a super friggin' genius and 
figured out the extremely cryptic command line to flip the switch.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: James Rankin 
[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]<mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

Poor McAfeeso hated. Actually I shut down the McAfee services and got the 
same error, but the agent was still installed, so I don't know whether this 
counts as a pass or not. I would prefer to test with the whole thing removed to 
be sure.

However as somehow a vDisk in Standard mode managed to come up in Private mode 
and has subsequently written a load of apps into the base server image that 
shouldn't be there, I now have a different problem to solve first. Oh joy.

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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-24 Thread Rankin, James R
That's the thing, its showing as private when booted but the console is 
definitely saying standard. There's a problem with replication of the disk 
images between the PVS stores which I think has caused it, but its certainly 
giving me a major headache. Very weird!

Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

-Original Message-
From: Webster 
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:49:41 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Interesting change password 
failure

Standard mode vDisks don't just "come up" in Private Image mode unless someone 
went into the console and made the change or was a super friggin' genius and 
figured out the extremely cryptic command line to flip the switch.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

Poor McAfeeso hated. Actually I shut down the McAfee services and got the 
same error, but the agent was still installed, so I don't know whether this 
counts as a pass or not. I would prefer to test with the whole thing removed to 
be sure.

However as somehow a vDisk in Standard mode managed to come up in Private mode 
and has subsequently written a load of apps into the base server image that 
shouldn't be there, I now have a different problem to solve first. Oh joy.

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RE: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-24 Thread Webster
Standard mode vDisks don't just "come up" in Private Image mode unless someone 
went into the console and made the change or was a super friggin' genius and 
figured out the extremely cryptic command line to flip the switch.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

Poor McAfeeso hated. Actually I shut down the McAfee services and got the 
same error, but the agent was still installed, so I don't know whether this 
counts as a pass or not. I would prefer to test with the whole thing removed to 
be sure.

However as somehow a vDisk in Standard mode managed to come up in Private mode 
and has subsequently written a load of apps into the base server image that 
shouldn't be there, I now have a different problem to solve first. Oh joy.

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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-24 Thread James Rankin
Poor McAfeeso hated. Actually I shut down the McAfee services and got
the same error, but the agent was still installed, so I don't know whether
this counts as a pass or not. I would prefer to test with the whole thing
removed to be sure.

However as somehow a vDisk in Standard mode managed to come up in Private
mode and has subsequently written a load of apps into the base server image
that shouldn't be there, I now have a different problem to solve first. Oh
joy.

On 24 February 2012 11:04, Randal, Phil  wrote:

>  Only one snag to that thesis…  McCrappy’s working fine here.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Phil Randal*
>
> *Infrastructure Engineer*
> *Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT*
>
> Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 23 February 2012 17:50
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Interesting change password failure
>
>
>
> How much does anyone want to bet that McCrappy is implicated in this?
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>  On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:07 PM, James Rankin 
> wrote:
>
> Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming
> in to the farm
>
> On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan  wrote:
>
>  What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue
> with NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS
> 2003 and Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on
> the end user machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find
> something on the AV vendor's site?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin 
> wrote:
>
> Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain)
> user is asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not
> enough server storage is available to process this command". Resources are
> fine, load is low, no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security
> box once logged in. Seems rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen
> before?
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
>
> JRR
>
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
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> what happ

Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Rankin, James R
More good stuff for me to check tomorrow, much appreciated all

Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

-Original Message-
From: Webster 
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:13:16 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Interesting change password 
failure

I install McAfee after I boot the vdisk in private image mode (after the 
XenConvert process) and install it to the persistent drive.  Same thing for 
EdgeSight (if you are using it).  I also move the event logs and page file to 
the persistent drive.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

I was assured this had been done. And now I guess the next reply will be a 
clever play on the word ASSUME :-)
Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

From: Webster mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:03:34 +
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Interesting change password failure

Did you put the McAfee stuff on a persistent drive in your PVS image?  Did you 
reset the two registry keys before you put the vdisk into standard image mode?


net stop "Mcafee FrameWork Service"

REG Delete "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Network Associates\ePolicy Orchestrator\Agent" /v 
AgentGUID /f

REG Delete "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Network Associates\ePolicy Orchestrator\Agent" /v 
MacAddress /f

If your McAfee is centrally managed, you may need to check the box to allow the 
McAfee services to be stopped before you can do the above.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: James Rankin 
[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]<mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming in to 
the farm
On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan 
mailto:neog...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue with 
NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS 2003 and 
Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on the end user 
machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find something on the AV 
vendor's site?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user is 
asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough server 
storage is available to process this command". Resources are fine, load is low, 
no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security box once logged in. Seems 
rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen before?


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RE: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Webster
I install McAfee after I boot the vdisk in private image mode (after the 
XenConvert process) and install it to the persistent drive.  Same thing for 
EdgeSight (if you are using it).  I also move the event logs and page file to 
the persistent drive.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

I was assured this had been done. And now I guess the next reply will be a 
clever play on the word ASSUME :-)
Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

From: Webster mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:03:34 +
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Interesting change password failure

Did you put the McAfee stuff on a persistent drive in your PVS image?  Did you 
reset the two registry keys before you put the vdisk into standard image mode?


net stop "Mcafee FrameWork Service"

REG Delete "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Network Associates\ePolicy Orchestrator\Agent" /v 
AgentGUID /f

REG Delete "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Network Associates\ePolicy Orchestrator\Agent" /v 
MacAddress /f

If your McAfee is centrally managed, you may need to check the box to allow the 
McAfee services to be stopped before you can do the above.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: James Rankin 
[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]<mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming in to 
the farm
On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan 
mailto:neog...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue with 
NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS 2003 and 
Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on the end user 
machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find something on the AV 
vendor's site?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user is 
asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough server 
storage is available to process this command". Resources are fine, load is low, 
no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security box once logged in. Seems 
rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen before?


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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Jonathan Link
I don't think you can be claiming that you assumed it was done if someone
assured you it was done...  Unless you want to assume that "everyone lies."

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Rankin, James R wrote:

> I was assured this had been done. And now I guess the next reply will be a
> clever play on the word ASSUME :-)
>
> Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird
> --
> *From: * Webster 
> *Date: *Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:03:34 +
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" <
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> *Subject: *RE: Interesting change password failure
>
>  Did you put the McAfee stuff on a persistent drive in your PVS image?
> Did you reset the two registry keys before you put the vdisk into standard
> image mode?
>
> ** **
>
> net stop "Mcafee FrameWork Service"
>
> REG Delete "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Network Associates\ePolicy Orchestrator\Agent"
> /v AgentGUID /f
>
> REG Delete "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Network Associates\ePolicy Orchestrator\Agent"
> /v MacAddress /f
>
> ** **
>
> If your McAfee is centrally managed, you may need to check the box to
> allow the McAfee services to be stopped before you can do the above.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:07 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Interesting change password failure
>
> ** **
>
> Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming
> in to the farm
>
> On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan  wrote:
>
> What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue with
> NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS 2003
> and Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on the end
> user machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find something on
> the AV vendor's site?
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin 
> wrote:
>
> Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain)
> user is asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not
> enough server storage is available to process this command". Resources are
> fine, load is low, no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security
> box once logged in. Seems rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen
> before?
>
>
> 
>
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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Jonathan Link
And probably not even them...

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:06 PM, James Rankin  wrote:

> Only someone at Mcafee would dare
>
> On 23 February 2012 18:22, Ben Scott  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
>> wrote:
>> > How much does anyone want to bet that McCrappy is implicated in this?
>>
>>   Who's going to take the other side of that bet?
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
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>
>
>
> --
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> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
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>
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> this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer,
> because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide
> afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. *
>
> * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the
> information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a
> pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But
> should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it,
> and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However,
> if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding
> liability for transmission.
> *
>
> * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then
> please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's
> brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately
> refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought
> when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. *
>
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>
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> afternoon tea. *
>
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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Rankin, James R
I was assured this had been done. And now I guess the next reply will be a 
clever play on the word ASSUME :-)

Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

-Original Message-
From: Webster 
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:03:34 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Interesting change password 
failure

Did you put the McAfee stuff on a persistent drive in your PVS image?  Did you 
reset the two registry keys before you put the vdisk into standard image mode?


net stop "Mcafee FrameWork Service"

REG Delete "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Network Associates\ePolicy Orchestrator\Agent" /v 
AgentGUID /f

REG Delete "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Network Associates\ePolicy Orchestrator\Agent" /v 
MacAddress /f

If your McAfee is centrally managed, you may need to check the box to allow the 
McAfee services to be stopped before you can do the above.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming in to 
the farm
On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan 
mailto:neog...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue with 
NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS 2003 and 
Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on the end user 
machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find something on the AV 
vendor's site?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user is 
asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough server 
storage is available to process this command". Resources are fine, load is low, 
no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security box once logged in. Seems 
rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen before?



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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread James Rankin
Only someone at Mcafee would dare

On 23 February 2012 18:22, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
> wrote:
> > How much does anyone want to bet that McCrappy is implicated in this?
>
>   Who's going to take the other side of that bet?
>
> -- Ben
>
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> ~   ~
>
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the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER *

This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed.
If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and
therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you.
However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you
probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a
mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and
destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken
this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer,
because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide
afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. *

* The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the
information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a
pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But
should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it,
and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However,
if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding
liability for transmission.
*

* In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then
please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's
brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately
refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought
when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. *

* We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are
running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the
event that you do get this message then please note that we take no
responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or
implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving,
or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all
liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter
what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! *

* The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my
employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side
of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon
tea. *

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RE: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Webster
Did you put the McAfee stuff on a persistent drive in your PVS image?  Did you 
reset the two registry keys before you put the vdisk into standard image mode?


net stop "Mcafee FrameWork Service"

REG Delete "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Network Associates\ePolicy Orchestrator\Agent" /v 
AgentGUID /f

REG Delete "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Network Associates\ePolicy Orchestrator\Agent" /v 
MacAddress /f

If your McAfee is centrally managed, you may need to check the box to allow the 
McAfee services to be stopped before you can do the above.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming in to 
the farm
On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan 
mailto:neog...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue with 
NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS 2003 and 
Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on the end user 
machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find something on the AV 
vendor's site?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user is 
asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough server 
storage is available to process this command". Resources are fine, load is low, 
no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security box once logged in. Seems 
rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen before?



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RE: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Crawford, Scott
Try not to underestimate McAfee's ability to screw up.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

In fairness, though, it would seem more logical if the answer were some sort of 
password filter or domain authentication piece (even if the failure is 
happening in the reverse)
ASB

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
How much does anyone want to bet that McCrappy is implicated in this?
ASB

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:07 PM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming in to 
the farm
On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan 
mailto:neog...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue with 
NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS 2003 and 
Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on the end user 
machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find something on the AV 
vendor's site?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user is 
asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough server 
storage is available to process this command". Resources are fine, load is low, 
no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security box once logged in. Seems 
rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen before?

TIA,




JRR

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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Rankin, James R
The odds would be short. Confirmation will sadly not be available until maybe 
about 10am GMT :-)

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-Original Message-
From: "Andrew S. Baker" 
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:49:49 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

How much does anyone want to bet that McCrappy is implicated in this?

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:07 PM, James Rankin wrote:

> Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming
> in to the farm
>
> On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan  wrote:
>
>> What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue
>> with NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS
>> 2003 and Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on
>> the end user machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find
>> something on the AV vendor's site?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin wrote:
>>
>>> Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain)
>>> user is asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not
>>> enough server storage is available to process this command". Resources are
>>> fine, load is low, no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security
>>> box once logged in. Seems rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen
>>> before?
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JRR
>>>
>>> --
>>> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
>>> into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
>>> able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
>>> such a question."
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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> How much does anyone want to bet that McCrappy is implicated in this?

  Who's going to take the other side of that bet?

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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Erik Goldoff  wrote:
> sounds like an old NT4 SP4 issue, very similar error, required reinstalling
> the latest SP.  That bug *couldn't* still be in the codebase :(

  It's a new and improved version of the bug.  It's now web scale and
cloud enabled!  ;-)

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RE: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Randal, Phil
Which may bring us back to IRPStackSize:

Antivirus software may cause Event ID 
2011<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177078>

Check your system log for 2011 errors.

Cheers,

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From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 23 February 2012 17:07
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure

Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming in to 
the farm
On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan 
mailto:neog...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue with 
NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS 2003 and 
Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on the end user 
machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find something on the AV 
vendor's site?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user is 
asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough server 
storage is available to process this command". Resources are fine, load is low, 
no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security box once logged in. Seems 
rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen before?

TIA,




JRR

--
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the 
machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."

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committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress..

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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Andrew S. Baker
In fairness, though, it would seem more logical if the answer were some
sort of password filter or domain authentication piece (even if the failure
is happening in the reverse)

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> How much does anyone want to bet that McCrappy is implicated in this?
>
> * *
>
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> Technology for the SMB market…
>
> *
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:07 PM, James Rankin wrote:
>
>> Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming
>> in to the farm
>>
>> On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan  wrote:
>>
>>> What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue
>>> with NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS
>>> 2003 and Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on
>>> the end user machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find
>>> something on the AV vendor's site?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin wrote:
>>>
 Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain)
 user is asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not
 enough server storage is available to process this command". Resources are
 fine, load is low, no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security
 box once logged in. Seems rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen
 before?

 TIA,




 JRR

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 because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide
 afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. *

 * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of
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 it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on.
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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Erik Goldoff
sounds like an old NT4 SP4 issue, very similar error, required reinstalling
the latest SP.  That bug *couldn't* still be in the codebase :(



On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:07 PM, James Rankin wrote:

> Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming
> in to the farm
>
> On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan  wrote:
>
>> What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue
>> with NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS
>> 2003 and Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on
>> the end user machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find
>> something on the AV vendor's site?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin wrote:
>>
>>> Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain)
>>> user is asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not
>>> enough server storage is available to process this command". Resources are
>>> fine, load is low, no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security
>>> box once logged in. Seems rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen
>>> before?
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JRR
>>>
>>> --
>>> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
>>> into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
>>> able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
>>> such a question."
>>>
>>> ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER *
>>>
>>> This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is
>>> addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to
>>> you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to
>>> you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then
>>> you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a
>>> mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and
>>> destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken
>>> this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer,
>>> because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide
>>> afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. *
>>>
>>> *The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the
>>> information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a
>>> pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But
>>> should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it,
>>> and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However,
>>> if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding
>>> liability for transmission.
>>> *
>>>
>>> *In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then
>>> please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's
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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Rankin, James R
Sadly nothing interesting, bar a lot of AV-related stuff that seems to indicate 
some issue with a hook into the Mcafee software. That's happening constantly 
though. But I think killing AV may be my next move tomorrow.

--Original Message--
From: Ben Scott
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Interesting change password failure
Sent: 23 Feb 2012 16:59

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:29 AM, James Rankin  wrote:
> Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user
> is asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough
> server storage is available to process this command".

  Sounds vaguely like it might be an anti-DDoS measure gone wrong.

  Obvious, but: Anything in the logs?  Especially after turning on
password-related auditing?

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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread James Rankin
Its Mcafee, i might disable that tomorrow as I have a spare server coming
in to the farm

On 23 February 2012 16:53, Mike Sullivan  wrote:

> What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue with
> NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS 2003
> and Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on the end
> user machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find something on
> the AV vendor's site?
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin wrote:
>
>> Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain)
>> user is asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not
>> enough server storage is available to process this command". Resources are
>> fine, load is low, no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security
>> box once logged in. Seems rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen
>> before?
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> JRR
>>
>> --
>> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
>> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
>> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
>> a question."
>>
>> ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER *
>>
>> This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is
>> addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to
>> you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to
>> you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then
>> you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a
>> mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and
>> destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken
>> this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer,
>> because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide
>> afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. *
>>
>> * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the
>> information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a
>> pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But
>> should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it,
>> and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However,
>> if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding
>> liability for transmission.
>> *
>>
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>> please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's
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>> when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. *
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>> liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter
>> what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! *
>>
>> * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of
>> my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier
>> side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for
>> afternoon tea. *
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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread James Rankin
It's a XenApp server, FWIW, but there's nothing else installed I can see
that might cause any issues. It runs PVS and some strange IBM monitoring
tool but I've tried stopping most things on here and I still get the issue.
I'm seriously thinking about Process Monitor but that's going to be a
needle in a haystack job, so I'm open to all suggestions :-)

On 23 February 2012 16:47, Brian Desmond  wrote:

>  *Do you have a password filter or other third party components that tie
> into LSA, Winlogon, etc. installed? *
>
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> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:29 AM
>
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> *Subject:* Interesting change password failure
>
> ** **
>
> Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain)
> user is asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not
> enough server storage is available to process this command". Resources are
> fine, load is low, no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security
> box once logged in. Seems rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen
> before?
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
>
> JRR
>
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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:29 AM, James Rankin  wrote:
> Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user
> is asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough
> server storage is available to process this command".

  Sounds vaguely like it might be an anti-DDoS measure gone wrong.

  Obvious, but: Anything in the logs?  Especially after turning on
password-related auditing?

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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Mike Sullivan
What AV software are you using? I've read that this has been an issue with
NOD32 and Kaspersky but that was a few years ago and it involved SBS 2003
and Windows Server 2003 on the back end. Uninstalling the client on the end
user machine allowed the password change. Maybe you can find something on
the AV vendor's site?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, James Rankin  wrote:

> Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain)
> user is asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not
> enough server storage is available to process this command". Resources are
> fine, load is low, no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security
> box once logged in. Seems rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen
> before?
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
>
> JRR
>
> --
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RE: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Brian Desmond
Do you have a password filter or other third party components that tie into 
LSA, Winlogon, etc. installed?

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Interesting change password failure

Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user is 
asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough server 
storage is available to process this command". Resources are fine, load is low, 
no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security box once logged in. Seems 
rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen before?

TIA,




JRR

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RE: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Brian Desmond
That doesn't make sense as a solution to this, IMO.

Thanks,
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From: Randal, Phil [mailto:phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Interesting change password failure

You may need to increase IRPStackSize parameter under this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\LanmanServer\Parameters

Create a DWORD value IRPStackSize and try the decimal value 20.

Cheers,

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From: James Rankin 
[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]<mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]>
Sent: 23 February 2012 15:29
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Interesting change password failure

Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user is 
asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough server 
storage is available to process this command". Resources are fine, load is low, 
no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security box once logged in. Seems 
rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen before?

TIA,




JRR

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Re: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Rankin, James R
Thought about that. That's generally for older OSes, as I remember. I haven't 
had much success with it in past issues but might try it if I don't have any 
luck.

Cheers,


JR

Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

-Original Message-
From: "Randal, Phil" 
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:55:47 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Interesting change password 
failure

You may need to increase IRPStackSize parameter under this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\LanmanServer\Parameters

Create a DWORD value IRPStackSize and try the decimal value 20.

Cheers,

Phil

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From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 23 February 2012 15:29
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Interesting change password failure

Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user is 
asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough server 
storage is available to process this command". Resources are fine, load is low, 
no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security box once logged in. Seems 
rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen before?

TIA,




JRR

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RE: Interesting change password failure

2012-02-23 Thread Randal, Phil
You may need to increase IRPStackSize parameter under this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\LanmanServer\Parameters

Create a DWORD value IRPStackSize and try the decimal value 20.

Cheers,

Phil

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From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 23 February 2012 15:29
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Interesting change password failure

Got a Windows 2008 R2 server here, that every time a local (not domain) user is 
asked to change their password at logon, the error comes up "not enough server 
storage is available to process this command". Resources are fine, load is low, 
no issue changing passwords from the Windows Security box once logged in. Seems 
rather strange. Anyone ever seen this happen before?

TIA,




JRR

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machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
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