RE: Java Update 11

2008-12-04 Thread Hart, Robert
I could be wrong but I believe this is the first release that should be
uninstalling previous versions, starting with update 10.  Maybe it is
hanging on trying to uninstall update 10.  That assumes update 10 was
even installed.  You could try removing update 10 then running your GP
to see if it hangs or not. 

 

I personally have not tried applying that update yet. 

 

Bob

 

From: Mark Boersma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Java Update 11

 

I always extract the msi from the offline java installers and distribute
it via GP.  I'm testing Update 11 and it hangs the machine and never
gets past the install.  Nothing is showing in the event log on the
machine.  Is anyone else installing Java this way and running into this?
I've never had a problem updating Java this way before.

 

Mark

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RE: Java Update 11

2008-12-04 Thread Mark Boersma
Interesting.  I believe that it was update 10 that was supposed to uninstall 
the prior versions but it didn't.  

If I manually uninstall 10 and then try the GP deploy it works just fine.

h

Mark
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-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java Update 11

I don't deploy via MSI or GP but I can verify that Update 11 did remove
Update 10 for a manual install.

 - Andy O. 

From: Hart, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 12:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java Update 11

I could be wrong but I believe this is the first release that should be
uninstalling previous versions, starting with update 10.  Maybe it is
hanging on trying to uninstall update 10.  That assumes update 10 was even
installed.  You could try removing update 10 then running your GP to see if
it hangs or not. 

I personally have not tried applying that update yet. 

Bob

From: Mark Boersma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Java Update 11

I always extract the msi from the offline java installers and distribute it
via GP.  I'm testing Update 11 and it hangs the machine and never gets past
the install.  Nothing is showing in the event log on the machine.  Is anyone
else installing Java this way and running into this?  I've never had a
problem updating Java this way before.

Mark
-
Two rules to success in life:
1. Never tell people everything you know.

Mark Boersma
IT Manager
Triangle Associates, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Java Update 11

2008-12-04 Thread Mark Boersma
Even if I apply the mst it still hangs though.  I'll dig into the mst and look 
at the options.

Mark
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-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java Update 11

It isn't the msi that removes version 10, it is the mst that is included with 
update 11. Therefore, if you are running only the msi without the transform you 
will be installing v11 on top of (insert Shook joke here...) v10, which 
apparently doesn't work reliably...if at all.
TVK

-Original Message-
From: Mark Boersma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java Update 11

Interesting.  I believe that it was update 10 that was supposed to uninstall 
the prior versions but it didn't.  

If I manually uninstall 10 and then try the GP deploy it works just fine.

h

Mark
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1. Never tell people everything you know.



-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java Update 11

I don't deploy via MSI or GP but I can verify that Update 11 did remove
Update 10 for a manual install.

 - Andy O. 

From: Hart, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 12:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java Update 11

I could be wrong but I believe this is the first release that should be
uninstalling previous versions, starting with update 10.  Maybe it is
hanging on trying to uninstall update 10.  That assumes update 10 was even
installed.  You could try removing update 10 then running your GP to see if
it hangs or not. 

I personally have not tried applying that update yet. 

Bob

From: Mark Boersma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Java Update 11

I always extract the msi from the offline java installers and distribute it
via GP.  I'm testing Update 11 and it hangs the machine and never gets past
the install.  Nothing is showing in the event log on the machine.  Is anyone
else installing Java this way and running into this?  I've never had a
problem updating Java this way before.

Mark
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Mark Boersma
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RE: Java Update 11

2008-12-04 Thread Jim Dandy
Update 10 is not supposed to uninstall prior versions.  Verison 10 is the first 
version that is supposed to be uninstalled by future versions (like 11).  In my 
case, 11 did uninstall 10.

Curt

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Boersma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:16 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Java Update 11
 
 Interesting.  I believe that it was update 10 that was supposed to uninstall
 the prior versions but it didn't.
 
 If I manually uninstall 10 and then try the GP deploy it works just fine.
 
 h
 
 Mark
 -
 Two rules to success in life:
 1. Never tell people everything you know.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:03 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Java Update 11
 
 I don't deploy via MSI or GP but I can verify that Update 11 did remove
 Update 10 for a manual install.
 
  - Andy O.
 
 From: Hart, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 12:48 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Java Update 11
 
 I could be wrong but I believe this is the first release that should be
 uninstalling previous versions, starting with update 10.  Maybe it is
 hanging on trying to uninstall update 10.  That assumes update 10 was even
 installed.  You could try removing update 10 then running your GP to see if
 it hangs or not.
 
 I personally have not tried applying that update yet.
 
 Bob
 
 From: Mark Boersma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:14 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Java Update 11
 
 I always extract the msi from the offline java installers and distribute it
 via GP.  I'm testing Update 11 and it hangs the machine and never gets past
 the install.  Nothing is showing in the event log on the machine.  Is anyone
 else installing Java this way and running into this?  I've never had a
 problem updating Java this way before.
 
 Mark
 -
 Two rules to success in life:
 1. Never tell people everything you know.
 
 Mark Boersma
 IT Manager
 Triangle Associates, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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RE: Java Update 11

2008-12-04 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Do you have Orca, or another MSI editor? I put opened the Java msi in Orca then 
applied the mst to it and resaved it as an msi in its transformed state with no 
issues.
TVK

-Original Message-
From: Mark Boersma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java Update 11

Hmmm, did you push it with a group policy?  If I run the install manually it 
will uninstall 10 and work just fine.

Mark
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-Original Message-
From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java Update 11

Update 10 is not supposed to uninstall prior versions.  Verison 10 is the first 
version that is supposed to be uninstalled by future versions (like 11).  In my 
case, 11 did uninstall 10.

Curt

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Boersma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:16 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Java Update 11
 
 Interesting.  I believe that it was update 10 that was supposed to uninstall
 the prior versions but it didn't.
 
 If I manually uninstall 10 and then try the GP deploy it works just fine.
 
 h
 
 Mark
 -
 Two rules to success in life:
 1. Never tell people everything you know.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:03 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Java Update 11
 
 I don't deploy via MSI or GP but I can verify that Update 11 did remove
 Update 10 for a manual install.
 
  - Andy O.
 
 From: Hart, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 12:48 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Java Update 11
 
 I could be wrong but I believe this is the first release that should be
 uninstalling previous versions, starting with update 10.  Maybe it is
 hanging on trying to uninstall update 10.  That assumes update 10 was even
 installed.  You could try removing update 10 then running your GP to see if
 it hangs or not.
 
 I personally have not tried applying that update yet.
 
 Bob
 
 From: Mark Boersma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:14 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Java Update 11
 
 I always extract the msi from the offline java installers and distribute it
 via GP.  I'm testing Update 11 and it hangs the machine and never gets past
 the install.  Nothing is showing in the event log on the machine.  Is anyone
 else installing Java this way and running into this?  I've never had a
 problem updating Java this way before.
 
 Mark
 -
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 1. Never tell people everything you know.
 
 Mark Boersma
 IT Manager
 Triangle Associates, Inc.
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