RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

2011-06-15 Thread Joseph Heaton 
Yep, that's because once you start the snapshot, all changes to the guest go 
into the snapshot, which can make them extremely huge.  I bet there was a 
significant reduction in space used on your SAN when you collapsed the snapshot.

>>> John Cook  6/15/2011 9:07 AM >>>
IIRC I was moving a VM to a different SAN recently and it balked because there 
was a snapshot of the server (which I had totally forgotten about) and it took 
a very long time to delete it.

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for 
Windows

We keep snapshots for as little time as possible. Try restoring an old snapshot 
to anything that is AD-integrated, and watch the fun commence.
On 15 June 2011 16:38, Steven Peck mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
Ummm...?
If you remove them, they get incorporated into the base image.  You will 
generally need to do this before moving them.  Maintaining snapshots for any 
length of time in a vmware environment really isn't a good practice.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org 



On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Mark Robinson 
mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>> wrote:
No that's right, I really need to have access to the snapshots...so I do
not wish to remove them.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries 
[mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com<mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>]
Sent: 15 June 2011 03:54
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
Server for Windows
Yeah, not that I have tons of ESXi experience, but I have just removed
the snapshots prior to the move.  I'm guessing you don't want to do this
in case you need to rollback the server to a previous snapshot?

Stefan Jafs wrote:
> And you can not remove the snapshots?
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Mark Robinson 
> mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>


> <mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org<mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Scott.  Yes that's what I thought!  However I've just fired
> up one of the VM's (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new
> host and the VM is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not
> the data subsequently stored within the snapshots.  So I have a
> running VM, just without half of the data I had previously. So I
> need to somehow encourage VMServer to acknowledge the snapshots.
>
>
>
> Has anyone successfully migrated VM's with snapshots to a new
> installation of VMWare Server before?
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott 
> [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu<mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>
> <mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu<mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>>]
> *Sent:* 14 June 2011 22:24
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host -
> VMWare Server for Windows
>
>
>
> I've not done this in particular, but I would expect that you
> could manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas
> by moving the whole folder to a new machine and it would work
fine.
>
>
>
> *From:* Mark Robinson 
> [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org<mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>
> <mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org<mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
> Server for Windows
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a
> machine which hosts 3 VM's for test lab purposes.  I want to move
> these VM's to a new machine and decommission the existing
> machine.  I have migrated one machine successfully to the new host
> and this is running along merrily.  However I suspect the
> remaining two VM's may be a different proposition altogether as
> they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I have migrated
> already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved this
> themselves and could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple
> of articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If
> so how did you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:
>
>
>
> http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html 
>
>
>
> Many Thanks,
>
>
>
> Mark
>
> IMPORTANT INFORMATION
>
>
> Internet communications are not secure and therefore CIPS does not
> accept legal responsibility for the contents of any e-mail message
> sent via this medium. The content of any e-mail communica

RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

2011-06-15 Thread John Cook 
IIRC I was moving a VM to a different SAN recently and it balked because there 
was a snapshot of the server (which I had totally forgotten about) and it took 
a very long time to delete it.

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for 
Windows

We keep snapshots for as little time as possible. Try restoring an old snapshot 
to anything that is AD-integrated, and watch the fun commence.
On 15 June 2011 16:38, Steven Peck mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
Ummm...?
If you remove them, they get incorporated into the base image.  You will 
generally need to do this before moving them.  Maintaining snapshots for any 
length of time in a vmware environment really isn't a good practice.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org



On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Mark Robinson 
mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>> wrote:
No that's right, I really need to have access to the snapshots...so I do
not wish to remove them.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries 
[mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com<mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>]
Sent: 15 June 2011 03:54
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
Server for Windows
Yeah, not that I have tons of ESXi experience, but I have just removed
the snapshots prior to the move.  I'm guessing you don't want to do this
in case you need to rollback the server to a previous snapshot?

Stefan Jafs wrote:
> And you can not remove the snapshots?
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Mark Robinson 
> mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>


> <mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org<mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Scott.  Yes that's what I thought!  However I've just fired
> up one of the VM's (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new
> host and the VM is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not
> the data subsequently stored within the snapshots.  So I have a
> running VM, just without half of the data I had previously. So I
> need to somehow encourage VMServer to acknowledge the snapshots.
>
>
>
> Has anyone successfully migrated VM's with snapshots to a new
> installation of VMWare Server before?
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott 
> [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu<mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>
> <mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu<mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>>]
>     *Sent:* 14 June 2011 22:24
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host -
> VMWare Server for Windows
>
>
>
> I've not done this in particular, but I would expect that you
> could manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas
> by moving the whole folder to a new machine and it would work
fine.
>
>
>
> *From:* Mark Robinson 
> [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org<mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>
> <mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org<mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
> Server for Windows
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a
> machine which hosts 3 VM's for test lab purposes.  I want to move
> these VM's to a new machine and decommission the existing
> machine.  I have migrated one machine successfully to the new host
> and this is running along merrily.  However I suspect the
> remaining two VM's may be a different proposition altogether as
> they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I have migrated
> already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved this
> themselves and could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple
> of articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If
> so how did you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:
>
>
>
> http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html
>
>
>
> Many Thanks,
>
>
>
> Mark
>
> IMPORTANT INFORMATION
>
>
> Internet communications are not secure and therefore CIPS does not
> accept legal responsibility for the contents of any e-mail message
> sent via this medium. The content of any e-mail communication is
> the view of the individual and CIPS does not accept legal
> liability for the contents. Although this message and any
> attachments are believed to be free of virus or other defect that
> might affect any computer system into which it is received and
>

Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

2011-06-15 Thread James Rankin 
We keep snapshots for as little time as possible. Try restoring an old
snapshot to anything that is AD-integrated, and watch the fun commence.

On 15 June 2011 16:38, Steven Peck  wrote:

> Ummm...?
> If you remove them, they get incorporated into the base image.  You will
> generally need to do this before moving them.  Maintaining snapshots for any
> length of time in a vmware environment really isn't a good practice.
>
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Mark Robinson wrote:
>
>> No that's right, I really need to have access to the snapshots...so I do
>> not wish to remove them.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
>> Sent: 15 June 2011 03:54
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
>> Server for Windows
>>
>> Yeah, not that I have tons of ESXi experience, but I have just removed
>> the snapshots prior to the move.  I'm guessing you don't want to do this
>> in case you need to rollback the server to a previous snapshot?
>>
>> Stefan Jafs wrote:
>> > And you can not remove the snapshots?
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Mark Robinson >
>>
>> > <mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks Scott.  Yes that's what I thought!  However I've just fired
>> > up one of the VM's (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new
>> > host and the VM is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not
>> > the data subsequently stored within the snapshots.  So I have a
>> > running VM, just without half of the data I had previously. So I
>> > need to somehow encourage VMServer to acknowledge the snapshots.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anyone successfully migrated VM's with snapshots to a new
>> >     installation of VMWare Server before?
>> >
>> > *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu
>> > <mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>]
>> > *Sent:* 14 June 2011 22:24
>> >
>> >
>> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> > *Subject:* RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host -
>> > VMWare Server for Windows
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I've not done this in particular, but I would expect that you
>> > could manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas
>> > by moving the whole folder to a new machine and it would work
>> fine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *From:* Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org
>> > <mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>]
>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
>> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> > *Subject:* Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
>> > Server for Windows
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a
>> > machine which hosts 3 VM's for test lab purposes.  I want to move
>> > these VM's to a new machine and decommission the existing
>> > machine.  I have migrated one machine successfully to the new host
>> > and this is running along merrily.  However I suspect the
>> > remaining two VM's may be a different proposition altogether as
>> > they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I have migrated
>> > already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved this
>> > themselves and could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple
>> > of articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If
>> > so how did you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Many Thanks,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > IMPORTANT INFORMATION
>> >
>> >
>> > Internet communications are not secure and therefore CIPS does not
>> > accept legal responsibility for the contents of any e-mail message
>> > sent via this medium. The content of any e-mail communication is
>> > the view of the individual and CIPS does not accept legal
>> > liability for the contents. Al

Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

2011-06-15 Thread Steven Peck 
Ummm...?
If you remove them, they get incorporated into the base image.  You will
generally need to do this before moving them.  Maintaining snapshots for any
length of time in a vmware environment really isn't a good practice.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org



On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Mark Robinson wrote:

> No that's right, I really need to have access to the snapshots...so I do
> not wish to remove them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: 15 June 2011 03:54
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
> Server for Windows
>
> Yeah, not that I have tons of ESXi experience, but I have just removed
> the snapshots prior to the move.  I'm guessing you don't want to do this
> in case you need to rollback the server to a previous snapshot?
>
> Stefan Jafs wrote:
> > And you can not remove the snapshots?
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Mark Robinson 
> > <mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Scott.  Yes that's what I thought!  However I've just fired
> > up one of the VM's (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new
> > host and the VM is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not
> > the data subsequently stored within the snapshots.  So I have a
> > running VM, just without half of the data I had previously. So I
> > need to somehow encourage VMServer to acknowledge the snapshots.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone successfully migrated VM's with snapshots to a new
> > installation of VMWare Server before?
> >
> > *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu
> >     <mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>]
> > *Sent:* 14 June 2011 22:24
> >
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host -
> > VMWare Server for Windows
> >
> >
> >
> > I've not done this in particular, but I would expect that you
> > could manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas
> > by moving the whole folder to a new machine and it would work
> fine.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org
> > <mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
> > Server for Windows
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a
> > machine which hosts 3 VM's for test lab purposes.  I want to move
> > these VM's to a new machine and decommission the existing
> > machine.  I have migrated one machine successfully to the new host
> > and this is running along merrily.  However I suspect the
> > remaining two VM's may be a different proposition altogether as
> > they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I have migrated
> > already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved this
> > themselves and could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple
> > of articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If
> > so how did you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Many Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > IMPORTANT INFORMATION
> >
> >
> > Internet communications are not secure and therefore CIPS does not
> > accept legal responsibility for the contents of any e-mail message
> > sent via this medium. The content of any e-mail communication is
> > the view of the individual and CIPS does not accept legal
> > liability for the contents. Although this message and any
> > attachments are believed to be free of virus or other defect that
> > might affect any computer system into which it is received and
> > opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that
> > it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by CIPS for any
> > loss or damage in any way arising from its use.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

2011-06-15 Thread Joseph Heaton 
Can't you collapse the snapshot chain?  Snapshots are not meant to run for an 
extended time, but to simply provide a way of backing out of a change in case 
it goes horribly wrong.

>>> Mark Robinson  6/14/2011 2:50 PM >>>
Thanks Scott.  Yes that's what I thought!  However I've just fired up
one of the VM's (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new host and
the VM is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not the data
subsequently stored within the snapshots.  So I have a running VM, just
without half of the data I had previously. So I need to somehow
encourage VMServer to acknowledge the snapshots.

 

Has anyone successfully migrated VM's with snapshots to a new
installation of VMWare Server before?

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: 14 June 2011 22:24
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
Server for Windows

 

I've not done this in particular, but I would expect that you could
manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas by moving
the whole folder to a new machine and it would work fine.

 

From: Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server
for Windows

 

Hi,

 

I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a machine
which hosts 3 VM's for test lab purposes.  I want to move these VM's to
a new machine and decommission the existing machine.  I have migrated
one machine successfully to the new host and this is running along
merrily.  However I suspect the remaining two VM's may be a different
proposition altogether as they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I
have migrated already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved
this themselves and could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple of
articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If so how did
you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:

 

http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html 

 

Many Thanks,

 

Mark

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which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the
recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is
accepted by CIPS for any loss or damage in any way arising from its use.

 

 

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RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

2011-06-15 Thread Mark Robinson 
No that's right, I really need to have access to the snapshots...so I do
not wish to remove them.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: 15 June 2011 03:54
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
Server for Windows

Yeah, not that I have tons of ESXi experience, but I have just removed
the snapshots prior to the move.  I'm guessing you don't want to do this
in case you need to rollback the server to a previous snapshot?

Stefan Jafs wrote:
> And you can not remove the snapshots?
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Mark Robinson  <mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Scott.  Yes that's what I thought!  However I've just fired
> up one of the VM's (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new
> host and the VM is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not
> the data subsequently stored within the snapshots.  So I have a
> running VM, just without half of the data I had previously. So I
> need to somehow encourage VMServer to acknowledge the snapshots.
>
>  
>
> Has anyone successfully migrated VM's with snapshots to a new
> installation of VMWare Server before?
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu
> <mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>]
> *Sent:* 14 June 2011 22:24
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host -
> VMWare Server for Windows
>
>  
>
> I've not done this in particular, but I would expect that you
> could manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas
> by moving the whole folder to a new machine and it would work
fine.
>
>  
>
> *From:* Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org
> <mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
> Server for Windows
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a
> machine which hosts 3 VM's for test lab purposes.  I want to move
> these VM's to a new machine and decommission the existing
> machine.  I have migrated one machine successfully to the new host
> and this is running along merrily.  However I suspect the
> remaining two VM's may be a different proposition altogether as
> they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I have migrated
> already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved this
> themselves and could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple
> of articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If
> so how did you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:
>
>  
>
> http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html
>
>  
>
> Many Thanks,
>
>  
>
> Mark
>
> IMPORTANT INFORMATION
>
>
> Internet communications are not secure and therefore CIPS does not
> accept legal responsibility for the contents of any e-mail message
> sent via this medium. The content of any e-mail communication is
> the view of the individual and CIPS does not accept legal
> liability for the contents. Although this message and any
> attachments are believed to be free of virus or other defect that
> might affect any computer system into which it is received and
> opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that
> it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by CIPS for any
> loss or damage in any way arising from its use.
>
>  
>
>  
>
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Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

2011-06-14 Thread Bill Humphries 
Yeah, not that I have tons of ESXi experience, but I have just removed 
the snapshots prior to the move.  I'm guessing you don't want to do this 
in case you need to rollback the server to a previous snapshot?


Stefan Jafs wrote:

And you can not remove the snapshots?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Mark Robinson <mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>> wrote:


Thanks Scott.  Yes that’s what I thought!  However I’ve just fired
up one of the VM’s (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new
host and the VM is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not
the data subsequently stored within the snapshots.  So I have a
running VM, just without half of the data I had previously. So I
need to somehow encourage VMServer to acknowledge the snapshots.

 


Has anyone successfully migrated VM’s with snapshots to a new
installation of VMWare Server before?

*From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu
<mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>]
*Sent:* 14 June 2011 22:24


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host -
VMWare Server for Windows

 


I’ve not done this in particular, but I would expect that you
could manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas
by moving the whole folder to a new machine and it would work fine.

 


*From:* Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org
<mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org>]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
Server for Windows

 


Hi,

 


I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a
machine which hosts 3 VM’s for test lab purposes.  I want to move
these VM’s to a new machine and decommission the existing
machine.  I have migrated one machine successfully to the new host
and this is running along merrily.  However I suspect the
remaining two VM’s may be a different proposition altogether as
they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I have migrated
already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved this
themselves and could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple
of articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If
so how did you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:

 


http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html

 


Many Thanks,

 


Mark

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Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

2011-06-14 Thread Stefan Jafs 
And you can not remove the snapshots?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Mark Robinson wrote:

> Thanks Scott.  Yes that’s what I thought!  However I’ve just fired up one
> of the VM’s (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new host and the VM
> is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not the data subsequently
> stored within the snapshots.  So I have a running VM, just without half of
> the data I had previously. So I need to somehow encourage VMServer to
> acknowledge the snapshots.
>
>
>
> Has anyone successfully migrated VM’s with snapshots to a new installation
> of VMWare Server before?
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> *Sent:* 14 June 2011 22:24
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
> Server for Windows
>
>
>
> I’ve not done this in particular, but I would expect that you could
> manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas by moving the
> whole folder to a new machine and it would work fine.
>
>
>
> *From:* Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server
> for Windows
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a machine
> which hosts 3 VM’s for test lab purposes.  I want to move these VM’s to a
> new machine and decommission the existing machine.  I have migrated one
> machine successfully to the new host and this is running along merrily.
> However I suspect the remaining two VM’s may be a different proposition
> altogether as they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I have migrated
> already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved this themselves and
> could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple of articles around fixing
> the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If so how did you do it?  I am about to
> folllow this advice:
>
>
>
> http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html
>
>
>
> Many Thanks,
>
>
>
> Mark
>
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RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

2011-06-14 Thread Mark Robinson 
Thanks Scott.  Yes that's what I thought!  However I've just fired up
one of the VM's (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new host and
the VM is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not the data
subsequently stored within the snapshots.  So I have a running VM, just
without half of the data I had previously. So I need to somehow
encourage VMServer to acknowledge the snapshots.

 

Has anyone successfully migrated VM's with snapshots to a new
installation of VMWare Server before?

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: 14 June 2011 22:24
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
Server for Windows

 

I've not done this in particular, but I would expect that you could
manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas by moving
the whole folder to a new machine and it would work fine.

 

From: Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server
for Windows

 

Hi,

 

I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a machine
which hosts 3 VM's for test lab purposes.  I want to move these VM's to
a new machine and decommission the existing machine.  I have migrated
one machine successfully to the new host and this is running along
merrily.  However I suspect the remaining two VM's may be a different
proposition altogether as they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I
have migrated already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved
this themselves and could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple of
articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If so how did
you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:

 

http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html

 

Many Thanks,

 

Mark

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RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

2011-06-14 Thread Crawford, Scott 
I've not done this in particular, but I would expect that you could manually 
move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas by moving the whole folder 
to a new machine and it would work fine.

From: Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for 
Windows

Hi,

I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a machine which 
hosts 3 VM's for test lab purposes.  I want to move these VM's to a new machine 
and decommission the existing machine.  I have migrated one machine 
successfully to the new host and this is running along merrily.  However I 
suspect the remaining two VM's may be a different proposition altogether as 
they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I have migrated already did not 
have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved this themselves and could give me any 
pointers?  I have read a couple of articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is 
this necessary?  If so how did you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:

http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html

Many Thanks,

Mark

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