RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
+1. It comes with 2008 and above, is easy to setup and it just works. I find it difficult to find any reason to provide vpn access for home users when a thin approach like RD Gateway is available. James. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2013 1:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS Instead of RDP over VPN, have you looked at RD Gateway? It does require terminal server licences for the users, but eliminates the kind of issues you're describing by tunneling only RDP over SSL and nothing else. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
Sounds like a good UAT period is needed to iron out the app inconsistencies. Its all about the apps. Apps apps apps. If your user base doesn't have well-defined application needs and they customize their own desktops, then maybe VDI is more suited than published resources from RDS? --Original Message-- From: Kennedy, Jim To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS Sent: 15 Feb 2013 15:03 How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
We have just now started looking into this. We saw a demo of Aventail, and were quite impressed. We have a few more demos set up, but so far this one was the only outstanding one. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
Best thing to do, if possible and backed by everyone, is to give everyone laptops and write up a policy that non-corp owned devices are not supported. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
Instead of RDP over VPN, have you looked at RD Gateway? It does require terminal server licences for the users, but eliminates the kind of issues you're describing by tunneling only RDP over SSL and nothing else. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
+1! Once things like PCI compliance require 2-factor authentication, there are things about company-issued hardware (MAC addresses, installed certificates, etc) which work as one of the factors. Multiple passwords are NOT multi-factor for PCI. -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS Best thing to do, if possible and backed by everyone, is to give everyone laptops and write up a policy that non-corp owned devices are not supported. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
I will give that a try. I have RDS User licenses galore. We use them in labs. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS Instead of RDP over VPN, have you looked at RD Gateway? It does require terminal server licences for the users, but eliminates the kind of issues you're describing by tunneling only RDP over SSL and nothing else. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgmailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
Ah right, I thought you meant app issues on the RDS end :-) my bad for not reading thoroughly Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY -Original Message- From: Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:49:58 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS Instead of RDP over VPN, have you looked at RD Gateway? It does require terminal server licences for the users, but eliminates the kind of issues you're describing by tunneling only RDP over SSL and nothing else. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
Multiple passwords are not multi-factor for anybody. :-) Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com -Original Message- From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS +1! Once things like PCI compliance require 2-factor authentication, there are things about company-issued hardware (MAC addresses, installed certificates, etc) which work as one of the factors. Multiple passwords are NOT multi-factor for PCI. -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS Best thing to do, if possible and backed by everyone, is to give everyone laptops and write up a policy that non-corp owned devices are not supported. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
We are getting that proposal on the 22nd from a reliable vendor. The price tag will kill that portion of it, we just did 3 million in cuts yesterday. 60+ people out the door at the end of the school year. You bring up a valid point in a backhanded way. The choices are write the check and do it correctly. Or have something that doesn't work too well. Frustrating though. Any reasonably clean/patched/well maintained machine connects and functions perfectly. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS I would recommend that you take the results of the testing, look at vendors that will help you with the security of such an approach, and then propose the full approach (with a suitable timeframe) for approval. If you're fortunate, they'll approve the project with the proper tools. If you're really fortunate, they'll kill it for now. Either way, make sure you've researched the tools that you will need beforehand. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgmailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
*Frustrating though. Any reasonably clean/patched/well maintained machine connects and functions perfectly.* ** I wouldn't be too quick to mention that, as that will become your new mission... *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: We are getting that proposal on the 22nd from a reliable vendor. The price tag will kill that portion of it, we just did 3 million in cuts yesterday. 60+ people out the door at the end of the school year. You bring up a valid point in a backhanded way. The choices are write the check and do it correctly. Or have something that doesn’t work too well. ** ** Frustrating though. Any reasonably clean/patched/well maintained machine connects and functions perfectly. ** ** ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2013 11:30 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS ** ** I would recommend that you take the results of the testing, look at vendors that will help you with the security of such an approach, and then propose the full approach (with a suitable timeframe) for approval. ** ** If you're fortunate, they'll approve the project with the proper tools. If you're really fortunate, they'll kill it for now. Either way, make sure you've researched the tools that you will need beforehand. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* ** ** On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. We're doing fine with it - we have an Aventail EX series box, and it checks for a suitable antivirus client on the connecting machine. We've seen some problems with getting the client installed on user machines, but have worked around that by giving them a download link to the client install package directly, on our ftp server. Other than that, if they can't connect, it's their problem, though a few people have brought their machines in for help. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
I definitely agree, but I was overruled on that... Kurt On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: Best thing to do, if possible and backed by everyone, is to give everyone laptops and write up a policy that non-corp owned devices are not supported. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
The EX series of Aventail (Was Sonicall, now Dell) is indeed very nice. I like our a lot. Kurt On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Candee can...@gmail.com wrote: We have just now started looking into this. We saw a demo of Aventail, and were quite impressed. We have a few more demos set up, but so far this one was the only outstanding one. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
I was so happy the first time they told me about that policy, as well as no MAC support either. Although, I wouldn't be involved with any of that hardly at all, it still made me happy. : ) Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS I definitely agree, but I was overruled on that... Kurt On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: Best thing to do, if possible and backed by everyone, is to give everyone laptops and write up a policy that non-corp owned devices are not supported. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
