RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread Erik Goldoff 
Just not, like I found at one site I had to fix a year or so after install,
where they used masking tape.  Eeewy-goooey !

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:49 PM
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Subject: RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

As mentioned before.  Velcro!

 

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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:32 PM
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Subject: RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

What's an alternative?

 


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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread Maglinger, Paul 
As mentioned before.  Velcro!

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

What's an alternative?

 

 



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

Absolutely.

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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Maglinger, Paul 
wrote:

Besides that.  There's the issue of pulling the wire ties too tight.
I've heard it changes the properties of the copper cables, and we can
imagine what it does to fiber.

 

-Paul

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:57 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

Almost always - But this shows just how hard-core the installer is!


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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Maglinger, Paul 
wrote:

Ooooh... very sexy.  But I thought that wire ties were a no-no on
network cabling.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:47 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

Not mine, but beautiful.

http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg

 

 

 

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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread David Mazzaccaro 
What's an alternative?
 



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn


Absolutely.

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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Maglinger, Paul 
wrote:


Besides that.  There's the issue of pulling the wire ties too
tight.  I've heard it changes the properties of the copper cables, and
we can imagine what it does to fiber.

 

-Paul

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:57 PM 

To: NT System Admin Issues

        Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn



 



Almost always - But this shows just how hard-core the installer
is!


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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Maglinger, Paul
 wrote:

Ooooh... very sexy.  But I thought that wire ties were a no-no
on network cabling.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:47 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

Not mine, but beautiful.

http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg

 

 

 

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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
Absolutely.

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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Maglinger, Paul wrote:

>  Besides that.  There’s the issue of pulling the wire ties too tight.
> I’ve heard it changes the properties of the copper cables, and we can
> imagine what it does to fiber.
>
>
>
> -Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 27, 2010 12:57 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
>
>
>
> Almost always - But this shows just how hard-core the installer is!
>
> --
> ME2
>
>  On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Maglinger, Paul 
> wrote:
>
> Ooooh… very sexy.  But I thought that wire ties were a no-no on network
> cabling.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 24, 2010 10:47 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
>
>
>
> Not mine, but beautiful.
>
> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>
>
>
> * *
>
>
>
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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread Maglinger, Paul 
Besides that.  There's the issue of pulling the wire ties too tight.
I've heard it changes the properties of the copper cables, and we can
imagine what it does to fiber.

 

-Paul

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

Almost always - But this shows just how hard-core the installer is!

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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Maglinger, Paul 
wrote:

Ooooh... very sexy.  But I thought that wire ties were a no-no on
network cabling.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:47 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

Not mine, but beautiful.

http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg

 

 

 

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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread Webster 
I would hate to try and tone out a bad cable.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

Almost always - But this shows just how hard-core the installer is!

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Maglinger, Paul 
wrote:

Ooooh. very sexy.  But I thought that wire ties were a no-no on network
cabling.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:47 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

Not mine, but beautiful.

http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg


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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
Almost always - But this shows just how hard-core the installer is!

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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Maglinger, Paul wrote:

>  Ooooh… very sexy.  But I thought that wire ties were a no-no on network
> cabling.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 24, 2010 10:47 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
>
>
>
> Not mine, but beautiful.
>
> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>
>
>
> * *
>
>
>
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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
Depends on my availability.  But, honestly, I have fixed so many other
peoples wiring mistakes that its one of those few things that I would truly
rather do myself.  Most issues I find are at the punch - at work and at
home.

Plus, I find it one of the few relaxing yet monotonous things to do.  But,
I've been a telco nerd since I was a kid, so I guess that goes with the
territory.

--
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

> For panels or individual patch cables?
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:18 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
>
>
>
> I terminate my own when give the opportunity.  I gots mad punch-down tools,
> and mad skillez.  Plus, I gotz the meters to certify.
>
>
> But seriously, yep I do my own when I can, because I beleive I do it better
> than anyone I've ever hired.  Not that I havent seen as good if not better,
> but just not what I am usually allowed to budget these days.
>
> --
> ME2
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>
> So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
> their closets?
>
> -sc
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
> wrote:
>
> >> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
> >
>
> > Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a
>
> > new cable.
>
>  I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
> center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
> there.
>
> -- Ben
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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread James Kerr 
In a pinch we have made our own patch cables if we don't have the right size we 
need but not for any infrastructure cabling. We only use the green and orange 
pair though cause that crap is annoying.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steven M. Caesare 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:07 AM
  Subject: RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn


  For panels or individual patch cables?

   

  -sc

   

  From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:18 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

   

  I terminate my own when give the opportunity.  I gots mad punch-down tools, 
and mad skillez.  Plus, I gotz the meters to certify.

  But seriously, yep I do my own when I can, because I beleive I do it better 
than anyone I've ever hired.  Not that I havent seen as good if not better, but 
just not what I am usually allowed to budget these days.

  --
  ME2



  On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare  
wrote:

  So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
  their closets?

  -sc


  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

  On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
  wrote:

  >> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
  >

  > Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a

  > new cable.

   I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
  center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
  there.

  -- Ben

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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread Maglinger, Paul 
No!  When I started here people were crimping RJ45 connectors on solid
conductor wire.  Works for awhile, until you unplug and plug them in a
few times, then the insulation loosens up and you get intermittent
connections.  Bad, very bad.

-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
their closets?

-sc

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
wrote:
>> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>
> Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a

> new cable.

  I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
there.

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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread Maglinger, Paul 
Ooooh... very sexy.  But I thought that wire ties were a no-no on
network cabling.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

Not mine, but beautiful.

http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg

 

 

 

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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread Don Guyer 
Last time I ran cables, about 3 years ago, it was for a private
homeowner (multi-Million $$ house). It was about 50 data runs, 25
telecom runs and 15 or so coax. We terminated all data & telecom, cable
company did the coax. That was a 2-3 week job. Some of the runs were 4
stories, communicating with coworker via walkie-talkie (cell didn't work
in basement location where patch panel was). That may have scared me
straight from ever doing cabling again.

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com <mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com> 

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

For panels or individual patch cables?

 

-sc

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

I terminate my own when give the opportunity.  I gots mad punch-down
tools, and mad skillez.  Plus, I gotz the meters to certify.

But seriously, yep I do my own when I can, because I beleive I do it
better than anyone I've ever hired.  Not that I havent seen as good if
not better, but just not what I am usually allowed to budget these days.
--
ME2

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
their closets?

-sc


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Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
wrote:

>> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>

> Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a

> new cable.

 I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
there.

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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-27 Thread Steven M. Caesare 
For panels or individual patch cables?

 

-sc

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

I terminate my own when give the opportunity.  I gots mad punch-down
tools, and mad skillez.  Plus, I gotz the meters to certify.

But seriously, yep I do my own when I can, because I beleive I do it
better than anyone I've ever hired.  Not that I havent seen as good if
not better, but just not what I am usually allowed to budget these days.

--
ME2



On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
their closets?

-sc


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Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
wrote:

>> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>

> Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a

> new cable.

 I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
there.

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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-26 Thread Steven M. Caesare 
Except I like the kind with the "buckle loops"...

 

-sc

 

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Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

+1 on the velcro as well.  You can buy it by the roll and cut your
lengths accordingly.

--
ME2



On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 5:09 AM, John Hornbuckle
 wrote:

+1 for Velcro. We quit using plastic ties ages ago.

 

 

 

 

 

John Hornbuckle

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

www.taylor.k12.fl.us

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:39 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

Haha, true. I HATE cable ties in my wiring too.  Something about taking
a clippers so close to wires... Velcro for the win.

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:51 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a
new cable.

 

- Sean


On Sep 24, 2010, at 7:47 PM, "Sam Cayze"  wrote:

Not mine, but beautiful.

http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg

 

 

 

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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-26 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
+1 on the velcro as well.  You can buy it by the roll and cut your lengths
accordingly.

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On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 5:09 AM, John Hornbuckle <
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:

> +1 for Velcro. We quit using plastic ties ages ago.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
>
> MIS Department
>
> Taylor County School District
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:39 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
>
>
>
> Haha, true. I HATE cable ties in my wiring too.  Something about taking a
> clippers so close to wires… Velcro for the win.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 24, 2010 10:51 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
>
>
>
> Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a new
> cable.
>
>
>
> - Sean
>
>
> On Sep 24, 2010, at 7:47 PM, "Sam Cayze"  wrote:
>
> Not mine, but beautiful.
>
> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>
>
>
> * *
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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-26 Thread Kurt Buff 
I stopped pulling and terminating when I left the brokenring world
with cat3. I can kinda sorta terminate 100mbit, but I have never had
to tools to verify/qualify, and it's dirty nasty work.

Hire it out - I've got better things to do and I only hire folks who
can give me a map and certification list.

Kurt

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 20:18, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:
> I terminate my own when give the opportunity.  I gots mad punch-down tools,
> and mad skillez.  Plus, I gotz the meters to certify.
>
> But seriously, yep I do my own when I can, because I beleive I do it better
> than anyone I've ever hired.  Not that I havent seen as good if not better,
> but just not what I am usually allowed to budget these days.
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>>
>> So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
>> their closets?
>>
>> -sc
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
>> wrote:
>> >> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>> >
>> > Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a
>>
>> > new cable.
>>
>>  I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
>> center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
>> there.
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-26 Thread greg.sweers 
All of our work is hired out and certified with reports.  In a pinch we can 
terminate/patch.  We have the tools and meters, all of my guys get trained on 
how to do it, but if its project work its hired out.


From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

I terminate my own when give the opportunity.  I gots mad punch-down tools, and 
mad skillez.  Plus, I gotz the meters to certify.

But seriously, yep I do my own when I can, because I beleive I do it better 
than anyone I've ever hired.  Not that I havent seen as good if not better, but 
just not what I am usually allowed to budget these days.

--
ME2

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
their closets?

-sc

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com<mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
>> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>
> Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a

> new cable.

 I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
there.

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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-26 Thread John Hornbuckle 
+1 for Velcro. We quit using plastic ties ages ago.





John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

Haha, true. I HATE cable ties in my wiring too.  Something about taking a 
clippers so close to wires… Velcro for the win.

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a new 
cable.

- Sean

On Sep 24, 2010, at 7:47 PM, "Sam Cayze" 
mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com>> wrote:
Not mine, but beautiful.
http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg




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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-26 Thread John Hornbuckle 
We hire that out. We've got a guy do does an outstanding job and is very 
affordable. He knows our cabling infrastructure better than we do, because he 
has been working with us for years. And because cabling is all he does, he's an 
expert at it-far more skilled than we could become by just pulling a cable here 
and there.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
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From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

For the patch panels, right?

Does anybody here custom terminate to their switches, etc?

We don't...

-sc

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

I've always hired that out and required cable certification reports as well.  
Having said that, I have the tools in my garage for a project I have yet to do 
=)

-Jeff
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
their closets?

-sc

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Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
>> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>
> Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a

> new cable.

 I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
there.

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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-26 Thread James Kerr 
  We run and terminate all our cabling for voice and data.

On 9/25/2010 8:49 PM, Jeff Steward wrote:
> I've always hired that out and required cable certification reports as 
> well.  Having said that, I have the tools in my garage for a project I 
> have yet to do =)
>
> -Jeff
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
> mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
>
> So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with
> RJ45's in
> their closets?
>
> -sc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com
> <mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
>     To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin
> mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
> >
> > Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to
> run a
>
> > new cable.
>
>  I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax
> distribution
> center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
> there.
>
> -- Ben
>


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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-25 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
I terminate my own when give the opportunity.  I gots mad punch-down tools,
and mad skillez.  Plus, I gotz the meters to certify.

But seriously, yep I do my own when I can, because I beleive I do it better
than anyone I've ever hired.  Not that I havent seen as good if not better,
but just not what I am usually allowed to budget these days.

--
ME2


On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

> So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
> their closets?
>
> -sc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
> wrote:
> >> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
> >
> > Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a
>
> > new cable.
>
>  I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
> center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
> there.
>
> -- Ben
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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-25 Thread Steven M. Caesare 
For the patch panels, right?

 

Does anybody here custom terminate to their switches, etc?

 

We don't...


-sc

 

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

I've always hired that out and required cable certification reports as
well.  Having said that, I have the tools in my garage for a project I
have yet to do =)

 

-Jeff

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
their closets?

-sc


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Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
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Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
wrote:

>> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>

> Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a

> new cable.

 I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
there.

-- Ben

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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-25 Thread Jeff Steward 
I've always hired that out and required cable certification reports as well.
 Having said that, I have the tools in my garage for a project I have yet to
do =)

-Jeff

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

> So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
> their closets?
>
> -sc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
> wrote:
> >> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
> >
> > Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a
>
> > new cable.
>
>  I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
> center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
> there.
>
> -- Ben
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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-25 Thread Steven M. Caesare 
So... does anybody here terminate their own twisted pair with RJ45's in
their closets?

-sc

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 AM
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Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin 
wrote:
>> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>
> Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a

> new cable.

  I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax distribution
center.  So not much call for new runs on the main distribution frame
there.

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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-25 Thread James Kerr 
  It is a nice job, give it a few years and it will look like crap. I 
was just repunching a wire last night in a wire closet we did about 9 
years ago. It looks like hell now. I wished I could redo it all over 
again but then I thought about how much work that involves and my sanity 
returned.

On 9/24/2010 11:47 PM, Sam Cayze wrote:
>
> Not mine, but beautiful.
>
> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>
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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-24 Thread Ben Scott 
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
>> http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg
>
> Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a new
> cable.

  I *think* that's a cable TV headend or similar IP-to-coax
distribution center.  So not much call for new runs on the main
distribution frame there.

-- Ben

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RE: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-24 Thread Sam Cayze 
Haha, true. I HATE cable ties in my wiring too.  Something about taking a 
clippers so close to wires… Velcro for the win.

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

 

Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a new 
cable.

 

- Sean




On Sep 24, 2010, at 7:47 PM, "Sam Cayze"  wrote:

Not mine, but beautiful.

http://i.imgur.com/D3E8M.jpg

 

 

 

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Re: OT: Your Friday Night Wiring p0rn

2010-09-24 Thread Sean Martin 
Looks nice but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard who has to run a  
new cable.

- Sean



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