Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-13 Thread Mike Leone

On 1/12/2012 3:58 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:

+1


I haven't had that happen, to either my Google Apps or regular Google 
account. But I usually am signed into one or the other, sometimes both 
at once ...


--
Espi



On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:


On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Maglinger, Paul
pmaglin...@scvl.com mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote:
 I’d like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep
losing my
 search preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it
keeps resetting
 my SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search
seems to
 work.  I even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

 Do you have any Google accounts (on any of their services?).  It
seems like search settings are kinda/sorta/sometimes/somehow
associated with one's Google account.  So, for best results, log in to
each Google account you have, and set and save the search settings the
same way.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
I'd like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my search 
preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting my 
SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to work.  I 
even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

-Paul

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

You know, I've been hearing advances in hotmail are making feature parity 
happen, so, time to check it out and see.  Maybe switch over.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Ben Scott 
mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link 
jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9, the
 Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to the
 myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
 back to the inbox, as it used to be.
 That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Kennedy, Jim
This will fix the predictions as long as you continue to go to the link to use 
google.

https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en

Are you clicking save on the bottom of the settings page when you change your 
safe search settings? I have never had it reset on me.


From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I'd like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my search 
preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting my 
SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to work.  I 
even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

-Paul

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

You know, I've been hearing advances in hotmail are making feature parity 
happen, so, time to check it out and see.  Maybe switch over.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Ben Scott 
mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link 
jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9, the
 Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to the
 myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
 back to the inbox, as it used to be.
 That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Yep.  Thanks for the link.  I don't suppose you have for the SafeSearch as well?

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

This will fix the predictions as long as you continue to go to the link to use 
google.

https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en

Are you clicking save on the bottom of the settings page when you change your 
safe search settings? I have never had it reset on me.


From: Maglinger, Paul 
[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]mailto:[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I'd like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my search 
preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting my 
SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to work.  I 
even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

-Paul

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

You know, I've been hearing advances in hotmail are making feature parity 
happen, so, time to check it out and see.  Maybe switch over.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Ben Scott 
mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link 
jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9, the
 Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to the
 myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
 back to the inbox, as it used to be.
 That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Kennedy, Jim
That's all I got.  :)

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

Yep.  Thanks for the link.  I don't suppose you have for the SafeSearch as well?

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]mailto:[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

This will fix the predictions as long as you continue to go to the link to use 
google.

https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en

Are you clicking save on the bottom of the settings page when you change your 
safe search settings? I have never had it reset on me.


From: Maglinger, Paul 
[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]mailto:[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I'd like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my search 
preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting my 
SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to work.  I 
even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

-Paul

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

You know, I've been hearing advances in hotmail are making feature parity 
happen, so, time to check it out and see.  Maybe switch over.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Ben Scott 
mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link 
jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9, the
 Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to the
 myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
 back to the inbox, as it used to be.
 That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

-- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote:
 I’d like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my
 search preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting
 my SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to
 work.  I even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

  Do you have any Google accounts (on any of their services?).  It
seems like search settings are kinda/sorta/sometimes/somehow
associated with one's Google account.  So, for best results, log in to
each Google account you have, and set and save the search settings the
same way.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Nope, that didn't work.  But I have a gmail account now!

-Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote:
 I'd like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my
 search preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps resetting
 my SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to
 work.  I even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

  Do you have any Google accounts (on any of their services?).  It
seems like search settings are kinda/sorta/sometimes/somehow
associated with one's Google account.  So, for best results, log in to
each Google account you have, and set and save the search settings the
same way.

-- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-12 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
+1

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On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com
 wrote:
  I’d like to find a good alternative to Google.  I seem to keep losing my
  search preferences and I HATE the Instant Predictions and it keeps
 resetting
  my SafeSearch settings to Moderate.  Nothing I found on a search seems to
  work.  I even tried looking for a way to make a cookie read-only.

   Do you have any Google accounts (on any of their services?).  It
 seems like search settings are kinda/sorta/sometimes/somehow
 associated with one's Google account.  So, for best results, log in to
 each Google account you have, and set and save the search settings the
 same way.

 -- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-11 Thread Steven Peck
You know, I've been hearing advances in hotmail are making feature parity
happen, so, time to check it out and see.  Maybe switch over.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9,
 the
  Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to
 the
  myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
  back to the inbox, as it used to be.

   That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

 -- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Andrew S. Baker
They're rolling it out in stages. For a while, I had the option to revert,
but that has gone now.

While I am less annoyed about the interface than when I first encountered
it, I am very far away from being pleased.  The icons are way too subtle,
and the interface is way too jumpy with all sorts of mouse rollover
activity.

At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time building my
own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the prevailing
interfaces of the day.

-ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Sent from my Motorola Droid
 On Jan 9, 2012 8:43 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org
wrote:

 Interesting, I just change mine back to the old format…on the settings
 ‘gear’ on the right side. Must not be my turn to be borged yet. My biggest
 complaint on the new layout is getting to older emails beyond page one is a
 pita.

 ** **

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 8:23 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Gmail rant

 ** **

 I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it,
 although it is nicer to be asked.

 I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they
 probably have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is
 best :-0

 On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org
 wrote:

 Greetings!

  

 I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old
 format”.  I don’t know what the @#* they were “thinking”, but I simply
 cannot read things in that big mass of white.  It is not easy to figure out
 what those little black smears are which were once actual text.

  

 Twice I found a link to revert.  Now that option is gone.  HELP???

  

 Thanks!

 --

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
 At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time building my
 own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the prevailing interfaces
 of the day.

  Standard protocols?  That's crazy talk!  ;-)

  Actually, that's a good point.  Google still supports IMAP.  It used
to be few freemail providers did (has that changed?).  I rather like
the old look, but I can always go back to reading my mail in my
client of choice.

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Heaton, Joseph@DFG
I'm not sure what the big deal is, personally.  I've been using the new format 
for a while now.  I applied a theme to it, to separate the mail from the plain 
background.  I have the density settings to comfortable, which gives separation 
from each other.  As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old 
arrow right at the top of the screen.  I haven't noticed a whole lot of 
rollover activity, other than one section on the left side, but that may be 
from a lack of stuff that I'm doing with the client, I don't know...


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:12 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
 At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time 
 building my own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the 
 prevailing interfaces of the day.

  Standard protocols?  That's crazy talk!  ;-)

  Actually, that's a good point.  Google still supports IMAP.  It used to be 
few freemail providers did (has that changed?).  I rather like the old look, 
but I can always go back to reading my mail in my client of choice.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Kennedy, Jim
For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 'show 
more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on the arrow 
is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, the unread/inbox 
goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done with it.

-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at the 
top of the screen


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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Steven Peck
I don't like the new format either.  Using the 'Compact' version of it
makes it more tolerable but enh.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG jhea...@dfg.ca.govwrote:

 I'm not sure what the big deal is, personally.  I've been using the new
 format for a while now.  I applied a theme to it, to separate the mail from
 the plain background.  I have the density settings to comfortable, which
 gives separation from each other.  As far as getting to the older e-mails,
 there's a big old arrow right at the top of the screen.  I haven't noticed
 a whole lot of rollover activity, other than one section on the left side,
 but that may be from a lack of stuff that I'm doing with the client, I
 don't know...


 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:12 AM
 To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
  At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time
  building my own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the
  prevailing interfaces of the day.

  Standard protocols?  That's crazy talk!  ;-)

  Actually, that's a good point.  Google still supports IMAP.  It used to
 be few freemail providers did (has that changed?).  I rather like the old
 look, but I can always go back to reading my mail in my client of choice.

 -- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Christopher Bodnar
Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to 
check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No 
issues.


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Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003



From:   Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:   01/09/2012 11:17 AM
Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant



For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 
'show more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on 
the arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, 
the unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done 
with it.

-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at 
the top of the screen


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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Mike Sullivan
I just click on 1-25 of many and it then switches over to the arrows.

If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just
under the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down
arrow and then choose classic.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Kennedy, Jim
kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote:

 For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select
 'show more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on
 the arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it,
 the unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done
 with it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
 Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

 As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at
 the top of the screen


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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Kennedy, Jim
I love you man! Thanks much.

From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant


If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just under 
the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down arrow and then 
choose classic.

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Gmail has Easter eggs now?

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I love you man! Thanks much.

From: Mike Sullivan 
[mailto:neog...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant


If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just under 
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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Heaton, Joseph@DFG
Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the Inbox 
button, let's you arrange how mail is presented to you.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

Gmail has Easter eggs now?

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]mailto:[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I love you man! Thanks much.

From: Mike Sullivan 
[mailto:neog...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant


If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just under 
the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down arrow and then 
choose classic.

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
This is not an Easter egg.  There are different inbox views that can be
applied.

--
Espi




On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote:

  Gmail has Easter eggs now?

 ** **

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant

  ** **

 I love you man! Thanks much.

 ** **

 *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT Gmail rant

 ** **

 ** **

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Maglinger, Paul
It sounded to me like they were hiding the down arrow.  I understand now that 
they're just hiding the classic settings.  I agree with Ben, if it ain't 
broke, don't fix it.

Hey Detroit!  Let's put the gas pedal on the left and the brake pedal on the 
right and see how that works out!!!  It's bad enough they can't make up their 
minds where to put the gas caps.

But I digress...

GOM

From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the Inbox 
button, let's you arrange how mail is presented to you.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Paul Maglinger 
[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]mailto:[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

Gmail has Easter eggs now?

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]mailto:[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I love you man! Thanks much.

From: Mike Sullivan 
[mailto:neog...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant


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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Sam Cayze
+1.  I can never tolerate web mail, regardless of the provider or revision.

 

I need to be able to see previous responses, other emails, etc while
composing a message.  I don't know how people get anything done in the tiny
window of text in Gmail.

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

 

Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to
check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No
issues. 


Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 



From:Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:01/09/2012 11:17 AM 
Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant 

  _  




For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 'show
more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on the
arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, the
unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done with
it.

-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [ mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at the
top of the screen


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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Rene de Haas
Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
hidden somewhere.


On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG jhea...@dfg.ca.govwrote:

  Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the
 Inbox button, let’s you arrange how mail is presented to you.

 ** **

 Joe Heaton

 ITB – Windows Server Support

 ** **

 *From:* Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
 *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant

  ** **

 Gmail has Easter eggs now?

 ** **

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant

 ** **

 I love you man! Thanks much.

 ** **

 *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT Gmail rant

 ** **

 ** **

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
You can open additional Gmail windows, just like any proper email client.
 You can easily choose to open new messages in a pop-out.

--
Espi




On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1.  I can never tolerate web mail, regardless of the provider or revision.
 

 ** **

 I need to be able to see previous responses, other emails, etc while
 composing a message.  I don’t know how people get anything done in the tiny
 window of text in Gmail.

 ** **

 *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 10:32 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant

 ** **

 Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to
 check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No
 issues.


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 From:Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org
 To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 Date:01/09/2012 11:17 AM
 Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant 

 --




 For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select
 'show more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on
 the arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it,
 the unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done
 with it.


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 Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

 As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at
 the top of the screen


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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Rene de Haas rene.deh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
 I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
 having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
 hidden somewhere.

  Next year, they'll make it so the hidden buttons appear in random
positions on the screen.

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are handled.
 You hover over it, and you have access to an additional menu.  You dont
use these options often, so why have them constantly visible adding to a
busy/cluttered interface?  Ultimately, Im glad that it is done this way.

Yea, waa, I didnt know about it right-away, but what-ever.  I searched
Google for interface options, and it was relatively easy to find.

--
Espi




On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Rene de Haas rene.deh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
 I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
 having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
 hidden somewhere.


 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG jhea...@dfg.ca.govwrote:

  Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the
 Inbox button, let’s you arrange how mail is presented to you.

 ** **

 Joe Heaton

 ITB – Windows Server Support

 ** **

 *From:* Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
 *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant

  ** **

 Gmail has Easter eggs now?

 ** **

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant

  ** **

 I love you man! Thanks much.

 ** **

 *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT Gmail rant

 ** **

 ** **

 If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just
 under the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down
 arrow and then choose classic. 

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Sam Cayze
I've tried that.

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

 

You can open additional Gmail windows, just like any proper email client.
You can easily choose to open new messages in a pop-out.

--
Espi

 





On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote:

+1.  I can never tolerate web mail, regardless of the provider or revision.

 

I need to be able to see previous responses, other emails, etc while
composing a message.  I don't know how people get anything done in the tiny
window of text in Gmail.

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:32 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

 

Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to
check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No
issues. 



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Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 



From:Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:01/09/2012 11:17 AM 

Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant 

  _  




For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 'show
more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on the
arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, the
unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done with
it.



-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [ mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 

 

Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at the
top of the screen



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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Steven Peck
YA!!!  Because if it were easy to find that would demonstrate a good UI.
oh wait

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are
 handled.  You hover over it, and you have access to an additional menu.
  You dont use these options often, so why have them constantly visible
 adding to a busy/cluttered interface?  Ultimately, Im glad that it is done
 this way.

 Yea, waa, I didnt know about it right-away, but what-ever.  I searched
 Google for interface options, and it was relatively easy to find.

 --
 Espi




 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Rene de Haas rene.deh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
 I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't
 like having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
 hidden somewhere.


 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG jhea...@dfg.ca.govwrote:

  Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the
 Inbox button, let’s you arrange how mail is presented to you.

 ** **

 Joe Heaton

 ITB – Windows Server Support

 ** **

 *From:* Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
 *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant

  ** **

 Gmail has Easter eggs now?

 ** **

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant

  ** **

 I love you man! Thanks much.

 ** **

 *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT Gmail rant

 ** **

 ** **

 If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just
 under the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down
 arrow and then choose classic. 

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are handled.

  Sucks for those, too.

 You dont use these options often, so why have them constantly
 visible adding to a busy/cluttered interface?

  Because it's a bad way to do a UI.  Seriously, they've done studies.
 Things that move around on their own are disruptive to both learning
and use.  UI elements should be fixed in place unless responding to
explict user command.

  The Auto hide taskbar thing that many people like actually costs
them time, too.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Like Easter eggs?

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Rene de Haas rene.deh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
 I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
 having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
 hidden somewhere.

  Next year, they'll make it so the hidden buttons appear in random
positions on the screen.

-- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Rene de Haas
LOL.
Maybe something for April 1st.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Rene de Haas rene.deh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
  I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't
 like
  having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
  hidden somewhere.

   Next year, they'll make it so the hidden buttons appear in random
 positions on the screen.

 -- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Jonathan Link
Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9,
the Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to
the myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking
one back to the inbox, as it used to be.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
  Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are
 handled.

   Sucks for those, too.

  You dont use these options often, so why have them constantly
  visible adding to a busy/cluttered interface?

   Because it's a bad way to do a UI.  Seriously, they've done studies.
  Things that move around on their own are disruptive to both learning
 and use.  UI elements should be fixed in place unless responding to
 explict user command.

  The Auto hide taskbar thing that many people like actually costs
 them time, too.

 -- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

2012-01-09 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9, the
 Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to the
 myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
 back to the inbox, as it used to be.

  That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

-- Ben

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