RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I'm sure that MANY people filed it. And I do understand that choices have to be 
made. It is just my opinion that when you cut the legs out from under the group 
(IT Pros/Administrators/Engineers) that you are most looking for support from, 
it may not be the best of choices.
Judging by some of the changes at the leadership level at Microsoft since the 
Vista launch, there may have been some people who agreed with me. :)

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

I filed it, you filed it, lots of people filed it.

"To ship is to choose".

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

I agree completely that whoever made the decision to release Vista without the 
ability to run the Adminpak in a completely functional way should be tarred and 
feathered then hung by their toes in the woods while Shook hunts turkeys. 
(Releasing Vista Home would have been OK, but there is no way that Vista was 
Business or Enterprise ready without this basic functionality IMHO.) But at 
least this gets us closer to where we used to be.
Tim

PS - I know for a fact that Microsoft knew about this issue prior to release as 
it is the only "bug" that I reported during beta testing that was not fixed 
before Vista's release...and I'm sure I wasn't the only one to find and report 
it.


From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

It does help but it also hurts.

... an unsupported fix that's not available until you install a new major 
operating system release, all to get back to a level of functionality that was 
easy in software released 5 years ago.


From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Nope, not just you...See this for an unsupported fix to the problem.
http://blogs.technet.com/askds/archive/2008/03/31/rsat-and-aduc-getting-the-terminal-services-tabs-to-appear-in-ad-users-and-computers.aspx
HTH,
Tim

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Yep... is it just my machine then?

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Did you turn on the check for Show Advanced properties? :D

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak


Okay, anybody else on a 2003 domain notice there are still some tabs missing 
from a user account's properties?

Specifically, I don't see:



Environment

Sessions

Remote Control

Terminal Services Profile

Dial In



And there is a new one called "Password Replication", which is probably a new 
WS08 feature.  Any way to get these to show up, or is this something that has 
changed (where it is) with WS08 administration, so they just didn't put it in?



... looks like I might be keeping that XP machine a while longer... 8)



-Bonnie






















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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Michael B. Smith]

I filed it, you filed it, lots of people filed it.

 

"To ship is to choose".

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

I agree completely that whoever made the decision to release Vista without
the ability to run the Adminpak in a completely functional way should be
tarred and feathered then hung by their toes in the woods while Shook hunts
turkeys. (Releasing Vista Home would have been OK, but there is no way that
Vista was Business or Enterprise ready without this basic functionality
IMHO.) But at least this gets us closer to where we used to be.

Tim

 

PS - I know for a fact that Microsoft knew about this issue prior to release
as it is the only "bug" that I reported during beta testing that was not
fixed before Vista's release.and I'm sure I wasn't the only one to find and
report it.

 

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

It does help but it also hurts.

 

... an unsupported fix that's not available until you install a new major
operating system release, all to get back to a level of functionality that
was easy in software released 5 years ago.

 

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Nope, not just you.See this for an unsupported fix to the problem.

http://blogs.technet.com/askds/archive/2008/03/31/rsat-and-aduc-getting-the-
terminal-services-tabs-to-appear-in-ad-users-and-computers.aspx

HTH,

Tim

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Yep. is it just my machine then?

 

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Did you turn on the check for Show Advanced properties? :D

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Okay, anybody else on a 2003 domain notice there are still some tabs missing
from a user account's properties?
Specifically, I don't see:
 
Environment
Sessions
Remote Control
Terminal Services Profile
Dial In
 
And there is a new one called "Password Replication", which is probably a
new WS08 feature.  Any way to get these to show up, or is this something
that has changed (where it is) with WS08 administration, so they just didn't
put it in?
 
. looks like I might be keeping that XP machine a while longer. 8)
 
-Bonnie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I agree completely that whoever made the decision to release Vista without the 
ability to run the Adminpak in a completely functional way should be tarred and 
feathered then hung by their toes in the woods while Shook hunts turkeys. 
(Releasing Vista Home would have been OK, but there is no way that Vista was 
Business or Enterprise ready without this basic functionality IMHO.) But at 
least this gets us closer to where we used to be.
Tim

PS - I know for a fact that Microsoft knew about this issue prior to release as 
it is the only "bug" that I reported during beta testing that was not fixed 
before Vista's release...and I'm sure I wasn't the only one to find and report 
it.


From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

It does help but it also hurts.

... an unsupported fix that's not available until you install a new major 
operating system release, all to get back to a level of functionality that was 
easy in software released 5 years ago.


From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Nope, not just you...See this for an unsupported fix to the problem.
http://blogs.technet.com/askds/archive/2008/03/31/rsat-and-aduc-getting-the-terminal-services-tabs-to-appear-in-ad-users-and-computers.aspx
HTH,
Tim

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Yep... is it just my machine then?

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Did you turn on the check for Show Advanced properties? :D

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak


Okay, anybody else on a 2003 domain notice there are still some tabs missing 
from a user account's properties?

Specifically, I don't see:



Environment

Sessions

Remote Control

Terminal Services Profile

Dial In



And there is a new one called "Password Replication", which is probably a new 
WS08 feature.  Any way to get these to show up, or is this something that has 
changed (where it is) with WS08 administration, so they just didn't put it in?



... looks like I might be keeping that XP machine a while longer... 8)



-Bonnie
















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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Carl Houseman]

It does help but it also hurts.

 

... an unsupported fix that's not available until you install a new major
operating system release, all to get back to a level of functionality that
was easy in software released 5 years ago.

 

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Nope, not just you.See this for an unsupported fix to the problem.

http://blogs.technet.com/askds/archive/2008/03/31/rsat-and-aduc-getting-the-
terminal-services-tabs-to-appear-in-ad-users-and-computers.aspx

HTH,

Tim

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Yep. is it just my machine then?

 

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Did you turn on the check for Show Advanced properties? :D

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Okay, anybody else on a 2003 domain notice there are still some tabs missing
from a user account's properties?
Specifically, I don't see:
 
Environment
Sessions
Remote Control
Terminal Services Profile
Dial In
 
And there is a new one called "Password Replication", which is probably a
new WS08 feature.  Any way to get these to show up, or is this something
that has changed (where it is) with WS08 administration, so they just didn't
put it in?
 
. looks like I might be keeping that XP machine a while longer. 8)
 
-Bonnie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Miller Bonnie L .]

Wow-thanks for the tip, but what a pain!  I wonder why they removed them?  I'll 
have to wait until we have WS08 up from what I'm seeing--will save this for 
later.  There is probably another dll for the "Dial in" tab as well, but I 
don't need that one nearly as often.

-Bonnie

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Nope, not just you...See this for an unsupported fix to the problem.
http://blogs.technet.com/askds/archive/2008/03/31/rsat-and-aduc-getting-the-terminal-services-tabs-to-appear-in-ad-users-and-computers.aspx
HTH,
Tim

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Yep... is it just my machine then?

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Did you turn on the check for Show Advanced properties? :D

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak


Okay, anybody else on a 2003 domain notice there are still some tabs missing 
from a user account's properties?

Specifically, I don't see:



Environment

Sessions

Remote Control

Terminal Services Profile

Dial In



And there is a new one called "Password Replication", which is probably a new 
WS08 feature.  Any way to get these to show up, or is this something that has 
changed (where it is) with WS08 administration, so they just didn't put it in?



... looks like I might be keeping that XP machine a while longer... 8)



-Bonnie













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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Nope, not just you...See this for an unsupported fix to the problem.
http://blogs.technet.com/askds/archive/2008/03/31/rsat-and-aduc-getting-the-terminal-services-tabs-to-appear-in-ad-users-and-computers.aspx
HTH,
Tim

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Yep... is it just my machine then?

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Did you turn on the check for Show Advanced properties? :D

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak


Okay, anybody else on a 2003 domain notice there are still some tabs missing 
from a user account's properties?

Specifically, I don't see:



Environment

Sessions

Remote Control

Terminal Services Profile

Dial In



And there is a new one called "Password Replication", which is probably a new 
WS08 feature.  Any way to get these to show up, or is this something that has 
changed (where it is) with WS08 administration, so they just didn't put it in?



... looks like I might be keeping that XP machine a while longer... 8)



-Bonnie










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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Damien Solodow]

Oh hell I don't know, I don't have a Vista machine here at work at the
moment. J

I just know you had to turn that on to see those tabs with the 2k3
adminpak.

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Yep... is it just my machine then?

 

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Did you turn on the check for Show Advanced properties? :D

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Okay, anybody else on a 2003 domain notice there are still some tabs
missing from a user account's properties?
Specifically, I don't see:
 
Environment
Sessions
Remote Control
Terminal Services Profile
Dial In
 
And there is a new one called "Password Replication", which is probably
a new WS08 feature.  Any way to get these to show up, or is this
something that has changed (where it is) with WS08 administration, so
they just didn't put it in?
 
... looks like I might be keeping that XP machine a while
longer... 8)
 
-Bonnie

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Miller Bonnie L .]

Yep... is it just my machine then?

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Did you turn on the check for Show Advanced properties? :D

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak


Okay, anybody else on a 2003 domain notice there are still some tabs missing 
from a user account's properties?

Specifically, I don't see:



Environment

Sessions

Remote Control

Terminal Services Profile

Dial In



And there is a new one called "Password Replication", which is probably a new 
WS08 feature.  Any way to get these to show up, or is this something that has 
changed (where it is) with WS08 administration, so they just didn't put it in?



... looks like I might be keeping that XP machine a while longer... 8)



-Bonnie







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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Damien Solodow]

Did you turn on the check for Show Advanced properties? :D

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Okay, anybody else on a 2003 domain notice there are still some tabs
missing from a user account's properties?
Specifically, I don't see:
 
Environment
Sessions
Remote Control
Terminal Services Profile
Dial In
 
And there is a new one called "Password Replication", which is probably
a new WS08 feature.  Any way to get these to show up, or is this
something that has changed (where it is) with WS08 administration, so
they just didn't put it in?
 
... looks like I might be keeping that XP machine a while
longer... 8)
 
-Bonnie

 

 

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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Miller Bonnie L .]

Okay, anybody else on a 2003 domain notice there are still some tabs missing 
from a user account's properties?

Specifically, I don't see:



Environment

Sessions

Remote Control

Terminal Services Profile

Dial In



And there is a new one called "Password Replication", which is probably a new 
WS08 feature.  Any way to get these to show up, or is this something that has 
changed (where it is) with WS08 administration, so they just didn't put it in?



... looks like I might be keeping that XP machine a while longer... 8)



-Bonnie

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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Andy Crellin]

It took me a day to find this out as I thought there was something up
with my machine. Wasn't happy! Everything is working quite nicely now
though on our 2000/2003 domain.

 

Andy Crellin 
Technical Services Manager
Leonard Cheshire Disability
Telephone: 01904 479200
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 April 2008 17:33
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

They do appear to. One caveat though is that when you install the msi,
none of the tools are actually installed yet. You have to add them
through 'Windows features'.

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?
Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains...

 

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314

 

-Bonnie

 

 

 

 


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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Between Virtual PC and RDP I have been on Vista for years now. Couldn't do it 
without them though.
Tim

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

LOL, I know, and I still have to look at what else I might still have on there. 
 I might just figure out how to pop it into a VM that I can spin up under 
Vista, just in case.  I'm mostly still worried about being able to fire up OLK3 
for support issues as I have OLK7 on Vista, but we've not deployed it 
everywhere as of yet.

=)

-B

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Bold words, Bonnie.

I'll download just because of that statement.

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."
- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:47 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Thanks-and so far, I'd agree-looks much better.  I might even be able to 
finally get rid of my XP box now

-Bonnie

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

I've been using it for a couple of weeks and it works MUCH better that the 
hacks we previously had to use on Vista. The beauty of drag-and-drop is back 
for ADUC, and Group Policy management is once again possible with Vista SP1. 
The only thing I didn't like was the install method which Damien mentions. Very 
NOT straight forward, or well documented for that matter, way of installing the 
download then going to Programs and Features then Turn On or Off Windows 
Features to enable and configure RSAT from there. I like that they put it 
there, it gives you the ability to only enable those parts of RSAT that apply 
to your environment or position, but it is very poorly documented.
Tim

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Cool--I'm downloading now... hope it works better than the adminpak hacks we've 
had so far.


From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak
They do appear to. One caveat though is that when you install the msi, none of 
the tools are actually installed yet. You have to add them through 'Windows 
features'.

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?  
Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains...

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314

-Bonnie


























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Re: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Durf]

Group Policy Management is back - IF you log on with a domain account.  Even
using RUNAS.  Kinda useless for a travelling consultant, unfortunately.
Looks like I'm back to using an admin workstation or virtual PC instance.

-- Durf

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  I've been using it for a couple of weeks and it works MUCH better that
> the hacks we previously had to use on Vista. The beauty of drag-and-drop is
> back for ADUC, and Group Policy management is once again possible with Vista
> SP1. The only thing I didn't like was the install method which Damien
> mentions. Very NOT straight forward, or well documented for that matter, way
> of installing the download then going to Programs and Features then Turn On
> or Off Windows Features to enable and configure RSAT from there. I like that
> they put it there, it gives you the ability to only enable those parts of
> RSAT that apply to your environment or position, but it is very poorly
> documented.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:37 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak
>
>
>
> Cool--I'm downloading now... hope it works better than the adminpak hacks
> we've had so far.
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak
>
> They do appear to. One caveat though is that when you install the msi,
> none of the tools are actually installed yet. You have to add them through
> 'Windows features'.
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> *From:* Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak
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> Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?
> Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains…
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> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314
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> -Bonnie
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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Miller Bonnie L .]

LOL, I know, and I still have to look at what else I might still have on there. 
 I might just figure out how to pop it into a VM that I can spin up under 
Vista, just in case.  I'm mostly still worried about being able to fire up OLK3 
for support issues as I have OLK7 on Vista, but we've not deployed it 
everywhere as of yet.

=)

-B

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Bold words, Bonnie.

I'll download just because of that statement.

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."
- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:47 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Thanks-and so far, I'd agree-looks much better.  I might even be able to 
finally get rid of my XP box now

-Bonnie

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

I've been using it for a couple of weeks and it works MUCH better that the 
hacks we previously had to use on Vista. The beauty of drag-and-drop is back 
for ADUC, and Group Policy management is once again possible with Vista SP1. 
The only thing I didn't like was the install method which Damien mentions. Very 
NOT straight forward, or well documented for that matter, way of installing the 
download then going to Programs and Features then Turn On or Off Windows 
Features to enable and configure RSAT from there. I like that they put it 
there, it gives you the ability to only enable those parts of RSAT that apply 
to your environment or position, but it is very poorly documented.
Tim

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Cool--I'm downloading now... hope it works better than the adminpak hacks we've 
had so far.


From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak
They do appear to. One caveat though is that when you install the msi, none of 
the tools are actually installed yet. You have to add them through 'Windows 
features'.

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?  
Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains...

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314

-Bonnie























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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Miller Bonnie L .]

I'm not-I rdp to my Exchange server or another server that also has EMC loaded, 
if needed.  We only have a couple of admins here on Exchange that are all true 
admins (no special access to set up), so this might not work for everyone.

-B

From: Senter, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

How are you administering Exchange 2003 on a Vista box with RSAT?

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Bold words, Bonnie.

I'll download just because of that statement.

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."
- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:47 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Thanks-and so far, I'd agree-looks much better.  I might even be able to 
finally get rid of my XP box now

-Bonnie

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

I've been using it for a couple of weeks and it works MUCH better that the 
hacks we previously had to use on Vista. The beauty of drag-and-drop is back 
for ADUC, and Group Policy management is once again possible with Vista SP1. 
The only thing I didn't like was the install method which Damien mentions. Very 
NOT straight forward, or well documented for that matter, way of installing the 
download then going to Programs and Features then Turn On or Off Windows 
Features to enable and configure RSAT from there. I like that they put it 
there, it gives you the ability to only enable those parts of RSAT that apply 
to your environment or position, but it is very poorly documented.
Tim

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Cool--I'm downloading now... hope it works better than the adminpak hacks we've 
had so far.


From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak
They do appear to. One caveat though is that when you install the msi, none of 
the tools are actually installed yet. You have to add them through 'Windows 
features'.

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?  
Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains...

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314

-Bonnie


























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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Senter, John]

How are you administering Exchange 2003 on a Vista box with RSAT?

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Bold words, Bonnie.

 

I'll download just because of that statement.

 

Christopher J. Bosak

Vector Company

c. 847.603.4673

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."

- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:47 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Thanks-and so far, I'd agree-looks much better.  I might even be able to
finally get rid of my XP box now

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

I've been using it for a couple of weeks and it works MUCH better that
the hacks we previously had to use on Vista. The beauty of drag-and-drop
is back for ADUC, and Group Policy management is once again possible
with Vista SP1. The only thing I didn't like was the install method
which Damien mentions. Very NOT straight forward, or well documented for
that matter, way of installing the download then going to Programs and
Features then Turn On or Off Windows Features to enable and configure
RSAT from there. I like that they put it there, it gives you the ability
to only enable those parts of RSAT that apply to your environment or
position, but it is very poorly documented.

Tim

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Cool--I'm downloading now... hope it works better than the adminpak
hacks we've had so far.

 



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

They do appear to. One caveat though is that when you install the msi,
none of the tools are actually installed yet. You have to add them
through 'Windows features'.

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?
Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains...

 

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314

 

-Bonnie

 

 

 

 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Christopher J. Bosak]

Bold words, Bonnie.

 

I'll download just because of that statement.

 

Christopher J. Bosak

Vector Company

c. 847.603.4673

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."

- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:47 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Thanks-and so far, I'd agree-looks much better.  I might even be able to
finally get rid of my XP box now

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

I've been using it for a couple of weeks and it works MUCH better that the
hacks we previously had to use on Vista. The beauty of drag-and-drop is back
for ADUC, and Group Policy management is once again possible with Vista SP1.
The only thing I didn't like was the install method which Damien mentions.
Very NOT straight forward, or well documented for that matter, way of
installing the download then going to Programs and Features then Turn On or
Off Windows Features to enable and configure RSAT from there. I like that
they put it there, it gives you the ability to only enable those parts of
RSAT that apply to your environment or position, but it is very poorly
documented.

Tim

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Cool--I'm downloading now... hope it works better than the adminpak hacks
we've had so far.

 

  _  

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

They do appear to. One caveat though is that when you install the msi, none
of the tools are actually installed yet. You have to add them through
'Windows features'.

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?
Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains.

 

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314

 

-Bonnie

 

 

 

 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Miller Bonnie L .]

Thanks-and so far, I'd agree-looks much better.  I might even be able to 
finally get rid of my XP box now.

-Bonnie

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

I've been using it for a couple of weeks and it works MUCH better that the 
hacks we previously had to use on Vista. The beauty of drag-and-drop is back 
for ADUC, and Group Policy management is once again possible with Vista SP1. 
The only thing I didn't like was the install method which Damien mentions. Very 
NOT straight forward, or well documented for that matter, way of installing the 
download then going to Programs and Features then Turn On or Off Windows 
Features to enable and configure RSAT from there. I like that they put it 
there, it gives you the ability to only enable those parts of RSAT that apply 
to your environment or position, but it is very poorly documented.
Tim

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Cool--I'm downloading now... hope it works better than the adminpak hacks we've 
had so far.


From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak
They do appear to. One caveat though is that when you install the msi, none of 
the tools are actually installed yet. You have to add them through 'Windows 
features'.

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?  
Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains...

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314

-Bonnie

















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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I've been using it for a couple of weeks and it works MUCH better that the 
hacks we previously had to use on Vista. The beauty of drag-and-drop is back 
for ADUC, and Group Policy management is once again possible with Vista SP1. 
The only thing I didn't like was the install method which Damien mentions. Very 
NOT straight forward, or well documented for that matter, way of installing the 
download then going to Programs and Features then Turn On or Off Windows 
Features to enable and configure RSAT from there. I like that they put it 
there, it gives you the ability to only enable those parts of RSAT that apply 
to your environment or position, but it is very poorly documented.
Tim

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Cool--I'm downloading now... hope it works better than the adminpak hacks we've 
had so far.


From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak
They do appear to. One caveat though is that when you install the msi, none of 
the tools are actually installed yet. You have to add them through 'Windows 
features'.

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?  
Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains...

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314

-Bonnie














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Re: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Jon Harris]

Installed on Vista and from the ones I have tried, yes they do 2003 domains
with ease.

Jon



On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Miller Bonnie L. <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?
> Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains…
>
>
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314
>
>
>
> -Bonnie
>
>

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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Miller Bonnie L .]

Cool--I'm downloading now... hope it works better than the adminpak hacks we've 
had so far.


From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

They do appear to. One caveat though is that when you install the msi, none of 
the tools are actually installed yet. You have to add them through 'Windows 
features'.

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?  
Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains...

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314

-Bonnie










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RE: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

[Damien Solodow]

They do appear to. One caveat though is that when you install the msi,
none of the tools are actually installed yet. You have to add them
through 'Windows features'.

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RSAT for Vista SP1--the new adminpak

 

Hadn't seen anyone mention this yet--Anyone tried these tools out yet?
Specifically, I'm wondering if it works against 2003 domains...

 

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=941314

 

-Bonnie

 

 

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