Re: SBS 2003 swing migration?

2008-08-21 Thread Jonathan Link
http://www.sbsmigration.com/pages/96/

This looks pretty good, and I've been thinking pretty hard about doing this
here at the firm.  For $200 and reduced (almost no) downtime the price can't
really be beat.  I haven't pulled the trigger yet, because I have to get
approval for every purchase not in my budget this year, and I don't have
time to do it between now and next April 15th to do anything.

-Jonathan



On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  List,

 Got a client wanting me to redo his SBS environment on new hardware, in
 other words start from scratch on a fresh box in order to clean up from the
 crap-o work his former IT shop did.  I can build from scratch, migrate data
 and join the PCs to the new domain but is there a better way?



 TIA,



 Shook









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

2008-08-21 Thread Michael B. Smith
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/05/18/sbs-2003-ha
rdware-migration-upgrade.aspx

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS 2003 swing migration?

 

http://www.sbsmigration.com/pages/96/

 

This looks pretty good, and I've been thinking pretty hard about doing this
here at the firm.  For $200 and reduced (almost no) downtime the price can't
really be beat.  I haven't pulled the trigger yet, because I have to get
approval for every purchase not in my budget this year, and I don't have
time to do it between now and next April 15th to do anything.

 

-Jonathan



 

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

List,

Got a client wanting me to redo his SBS environment on new hardware, in
other words start from scratch on a fresh box in order to clean up from the
crap-o work his former IT shop did.  I can build from scratch, migrate data
and join the PCs to the new domain but is there a better way?

 

TIA, 

 

Shook

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

2008-08-21 Thread Michael B. Smith
I posted this in another place:

 

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/05/18/sbs-2003-ha
rdware-migration-upgrade.aspx

 

However, since you are now at Peak10, and you don't clarify whether you are
talking about an on the side client or a Peak10 client - I just want to
ensure that you are aware that if a SBS server detects another SBS server on
the same network - it'll shut down. In a service provider environment, you
need to ensure that each SBS server is on its own subnet (at least - its own
VLAN would be better).

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2003 swing migration?

 

List,

Got a client wanting me to redo his SBS environment on new hardware, in
other words start from scratch on a fresh box in order to clean up from the
crap-o work his former IT shop did.  I can build from scratch, migrate data
and join the PCs to the new domain but is there a better way?

 

TIA, 

 

Shook

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

2008-08-21 Thread Andy Shook
Thanks MBS, this is an on the side client

Shook

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

I posted this in another place:

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/05/18/sbs-2003-hardware-migration-upgrade.aspx

However, since you are now at Peak10, and you don't clarify whether you are 
talking about an on the side client or a Peak10 client - I just want to 
ensure that you are aware that if a SBS server detects another SBS server on 
the same network - it'll shut down. In a service provider environment, you need 
to ensure that each SBS server is on its own subnet (at least - its own VLAN 
would be better).

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2003 swing migration?

List,
Got a client wanting me to redo his SBS environment on new hardware, in other 
words start from scratch on a fresh box in order to clean up from the crap-o 
work his former IT shop did.  I can build from scratch, migrate data and join 
the PCs to the new domain but is there a better way?

TIA,

Shook












~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

2008-08-21 Thread webster
Did you ever do the 2nd article you mentioned about shutting down the old SBS box?


Webster
 Original Message Subject: RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?To: "NT System Admin Issues" ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com



http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/05/18/sbs-2003-hardware-migration-upgrade.aspx

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com









RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

2008-08-21 Thread NTSysAdmin
Pay the 200 bucks and use the SBS migration kit...painless. No downtime. Works 
as advertised.

http://www.sbsmigration.com

S

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

Thanks MBS, this is an on the side client

Shook

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

I posted this in another place:

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/05/18/sbs-2003-hardware-migration-upgrade.aspx

However, since you are now at Peak10, and you don't clarify whether you are 
talking about an on the side client or a Peak10 client - I just want to 
ensure that you are aware that if a SBS server detects another SBS server on 
the same network - it'll shut down. In a service provider environment, you need 
to ensure that each SBS server is on its own subnet (at least - its own VLAN 
would be better).

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2003 swing migration?

List,
Got a client wanting me to redo his SBS environment on new hardware, in other 
words start from scratch on a fresh box in order to clean up from the crap-o 
work his former IT shop did.  I can build from scratch, migrate data and join 
the PCs to the new domain but is there a better way?

TIA,

Shook

















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

2008-08-21 Thread Jim Majorowicz
Andy,

 

If you still have my phone number call me if you want to discuss.  SBS is my
area o' expertise really.  Jeff Middleton's Swing Migration is the bees
knees as long as your Active Directory is solid.  If it's the AD you're
wishing to fix, I suggest something a little more drastic.

 

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

 

Thanks MBS, this is an on the side client

 

Shook

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

 

I posted this in another place:

 

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/05/18/sbs-2003-ha
rdware-migration-upgrade.aspx

 

However, since you are now at Peak10, and you don't clarify whether you are
talking about an on the side client or a Peak10 client - I just want to
ensure that you are aware that if a SBS server detects another SBS server on
the same network - it'll shut down. In a service provider environment, you
need to ensure that each SBS server is on its own subnet (at least - its own
VLAN would be better).

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2003 swing migration?

 

List,

Got a client wanting me to redo his SBS environment on new hardware, in
other words start from scratch on a fresh box in order to clean up from the
crap-o work his former IT shop did.  I can build from scratch, migrate data
and join the PCs to the new domain but is there a better way?

 

TIA, 

 

Shook

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

2008-08-21 Thread gsweers
The most typical Crap-O job is when SBS is used and no one works within
the wizards so everything is all over.  Usually just moving the
computers and user accts around in the OU's and making sure the proper
GP's are in place is good.  Hopefully they didn't do everything in the
default GP's.

 

If you can fix the AD with a few hours work it really worth it rather
than a fresh build.  That is a huge amount of work.

I will be happy to help with the process we use to move to new servers
with SBS, but the cats meow is sbsmigration.com

 

If they have really hosed the GP's or you have a bad AD then exmerge the
Exchange folders, export the public to pst's, copy the user and company
data.  If they use Sharepoint Services heavily that could be fun to
move.  Not an expert there.

 

Before moving anything, I usually disjoin the computers from the domain
(Making sure I have good local admin acct, favorites, desktops, etc)

Then I move the data to the new server usually via USB,  while that data
is moving I rejoin using the SBS Wizard to the new server.  

 

Takes a bit of timing usually over a weekend to keep downtime to a
minimum and then plan a day or two of fixup and cleanup items.

 

Looking forward to the SBSmigration kit for 2008.  We have about a 30
clients all with 3 to 5 year old servers needing a technology refresh
running 2003 SBS.

 

Good luck.  Glad to help out with any questions as well.

 

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

 

Andy,

 

If you still have my phone number call me if you want to discuss.  SBS
is my area o' expertise really.  Jeff Middleton's Swing Migration is the
bees knees as long as your Active Directory is solid.  If it's the AD
you're wishing to fix, I suggest something a little more drastic.

 

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

 

Thanks MBS, this is an on the side client

 

Shook

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2003 swing migration?

 

I posted this in another place:

 

http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/05/18/sbs-200
3-hardware-migration-upgrade.aspx

 

However, since you are now at Peak10, and you don't clarify whether you
are talking about an on the side client or a Peak10 client - I just
want to ensure that you are aware that if a SBS server detects another
SBS server on the same network - it'll shut down. In a service provider
environment, you need to ensure that each SBS server is on its own
subnet (at least - its own VLAN would be better).

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2003 swing migration?

 

List,

Got a client wanting me to redo his SBS environment on new hardware, in
other words start from scratch on a fresh box in order to clean up from
the crap-o work his former IT shop did.  I can build from scratch,
migrate data and join the PCs to the new domain but is there a better
way?

 

TIA, 

 

Shook

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~