RE: Selling servers
I have sold Dell equipment before an eBay. There is a warranty transfer site (see link) http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/change_order/ en/tag_transfer From: Travis Robinson [mailto:travis.robin...@octanner.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Selling servers Hello, We are looking at migrating to an all blade environment and have some 1yr old Dell 1950s with Gold support. Has anyone sold off old servers that are still under warranty? Any recommendations on how to do it; eBay or reseller? Any suggestions are appreciated Thanks and Happy New Year Travis ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Selling servers
Unless you can transfer the warranty or ownership on the manufacturer's site like Bob says below, you probably want to get with a reseller that can handle lifecycle management in order to address the following: 1. Indemnification of improper use and disposal of equipment-if you sell or donate equipment without legal indemnification you can be liable if those serial numbers show up in a landfill or are used in committing some kind of crime. (Once it leaves your hands you just never know.) A reseller can provide al of the necessary protective services and handle brokering your usable equipment to someone else, and you get the money less the fee. It costs you money instead of time, but all the bases are covered. In California the fine for throwing a PC in the landfill is so high you won't believe me unless you Google it and look it up, but they are the highest. Sometimes you can even go to jail depending on what regulations your industry is required to obey. Other states have big fines too, like MA, MD, ME, NJ, and WA. 2. Not destroying the drives by shredding or degaussing and DOD overwriting-there are lots of ways even damaged drives can have information taken from them. Protect yourself at all times and know what the applicable laws are. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Selling servers I have sold Dell equipment before an eBay. There is a warranty transfer site (see link) http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/change_order/ en/tag_transfer From: Travis Robinson [mailto:travis.robin...@octanner.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Selling servers Hello, We are looking at migrating to an all blade environment and have some 1yr old Dell 1950s with Gold support. Has anyone sold off old servers that are still under warranty? Any recommendations on how to do it; eBay or reseller? Any suggestions are appreciated Thanks and Happy New Year Travis ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Selling servers
All that is required is a signed copy of the bill of sale or an invoice. Just like any other piece of merchandise. S From: Dallas Burnworth [mailto:dallas.burnwo...@zones.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 6:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Selling servers Unless you can transfer the warranty or ownership on the manufacturer's site like Bob says below, you probably want to get with a reseller that can handle lifecycle management in order to address the following: 1. Indemnification of improper use and disposal of equipment-if you sell or donate equipment without legal indemnification you can be liable if those serial numbers show up in a landfill or are used in committing some kind of crime. (Once it leaves your hands you just never know.) A reseller can provide al of the necessary protective services and handle brokering your usable equipment to someone else, and you get the money less the fee. It costs you money instead of time, but all the bases are covered. In California the fine for throwing a PC in the landfill is so high you won't believe me unless you Google it and look it up, but they are the highest. Sometimes you can even go to jail depending on what regulations your industry is required to obey. Other states have big fines too, like MA, MD, ME, NJ, and WA. 2. Not destroying the drives by shredding or degaussing and DOD overwriting-there are lots of ways even damaged drives can have information taken from them. Protect yourself at all times and know what the applicable laws are. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Selling servers I have sold Dell equipment before an eBay. There is a warranty transfer site (see link) http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/change_order/en/tag_transfer From: Travis Robinson [mailto:travis.robin...@octanner.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Selling servers Hello, We are looking at migrating to an all blade environment and have some 1yr old Dell 1950s with Gold support. Has anyone sold off old servers that are still under warranty? Any recommendations on how to do it; eBay or reseller? Any suggestions are appreciated Thanks and Happy New Year Travis ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Selling servers
Would that cover indemnification as well? I never really thought about this until it came up in this thread... We have a mini storage full of equipment that we are getting rid of. From: NTSysAdmin [mailto:ntsysad...@optimum.bm] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Selling servers All that is required is a signed copy of the bill of sale or an invoice. Just like any other piece of merchandise. S From: Dallas Burnworth [mailto:dallas.burnwo...@zones.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 6:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Selling servers Unless you can transfer the warranty or ownership on the manufacturer's site like Bob says below, you probably want to get with a reseller that can handle lifecycle management in order to address the following: 1. Indemnification of improper use and disposal of equipment-if you sell or donate equipment without legal indemnification you can be liable if those serial numbers show up in a landfill or are used in committing some kind of crime. (Once it leaves your hands you just never know.) A reseller can provide al of the necessary protective services and handle brokering your usable equipment to someone else, and you get the money less the fee. It costs you money instead of time, but all the bases are covered. In California the fine for throwing a PC in the landfill is so high you won't believe me unless you Google it and look it up, but they are the highest. Sometimes you can even go to jail depending on what regulations your industry is required to obey. Other states have big fines too, like MA, MD, ME, NJ, and WA. 2. Not destroying the drives by shredding or degaussing and DOD overwriting-there are lots of ways even damaged drives can have information taken from them. Protect yourself at all times and know what the applicable laws are. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Selling servers I have sold Dell equipment before an eBay. There is a warranty transfer site (see link) http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/change_order/ en/tag_transfer From: Travis Robinson [mailto:travis.robin...@octanner.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Selling servers Hello, We are looking at migrating to an all blade environment and have some 1yr old Dell 1950s with Gold support. Has anyone sold off old servers that are still under warranty? Any recommendations on how to do it; eBay or reseller? Any suggestions are appreciated Thanks and Happy New Year Travis ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Selling servers
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Mike French mike.fre...@theequitybank.com wrote: Would that cover indemnification as well? This reminds of Bender on Futurama, when asked for a guarantee that his merchandise was genuine: I can guarantee you anything you want! I'm sure there are companies which will be happy to broker this stuff for a fee. But why do you trust them when you don't trust the scrap dealer? Either one might do something that gets you in trouble. If you're worried, check with your company counsel. Some jurisdictions may have laws that say the original purchaser is liable even if they've sold it, regardless of who you deal with. Some jurisdictions may just require a paper trail. Check with a lawyer who is working for *you*. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
