Re: Strangeness with Windows XP laptop

2010-05-10 Thread Jonathan Link
Short version: User has admin rights.

Long version:  Modelel of the printer is missing, users need to be trained
to restart when Vipre or Windows tells them to restart.  Instructing them on
the consequences of failing to do the restart when requested is just as
important.  Lastly, employees should not allow IT people not from your
company to touch the laptop.  You have no idea of what he did, and even if
he told you what he did, he likely forgot something unless he was taking
notes while he was doing it.

There's a huge black hole of missing information that can only be filled in
by speculation, or someone who has the same exact printer and also underwent
the vipre upgrade and proceeded to ignore the restart warning that it is
unlikely you'll have a (satisfactory) answer.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote:

  Here’s the situation:

 I have a few laptops that I manage running XP Pro SP3. Last night (Sunday)
 one of my users called me at home saying he had been working on an important
 presentation and when he went to print it, he realized he didn’t have his
 home printer installed, so he tried to hook up an old HP Inkjet he had at
 home. Then after installing the drivers, Windows said it needed to reboot
 and when he did, it all went south. The laptop would not let him log back in
 as it did not recognize his USERID and a friend of his (an IT Manager for a
 big telecom company which shall not be revealed) poked around and couldn’t
 find his profile (on the d: drive) so they called me.



 I drove an hour into the office to meet him and I found the same thing. It
 wouldn’t even recognize **my** profile. It gave me an error when I tried
 to log in that a Google search turned up a Microsoft article about too many
 security products installed. The error was 0x0035
 NO_MORE_IRP_STACK_LOCATIONS. The article gave a registry hack that should
 fix it if a hotfix was applied, prior to SP3. The same article stated that
 the hotfix was included in SP3, but it also said that if the hotfix was not
 installed, the registry hack would be ignored.



 It **did** allow me to log in as the local admin in safe mode, but would
 not let me log onto a domain account, even after the registry hack. I was
 also unable to pull up the installed programs list (add/remove programs) as
 the local admin in safe mode. I ended up wiping and reinstalling Windows.
 Office and Vipre Enterprise.  I also had to format the D: drive as Windows
 said it was not formatted.



 Now one thing I haven’t mentioned until now was that I had upgraded Vipre
 Enterprise from Vipre 3.x to Vipre 4 the previous week, and advised the user
 to restart his computer. He never got around to restarting it until Sunday
 evening after installing the HP printer driver.



 Any clue what could have happened?



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RE: Strangeness with Windows XP laptop

2010-05-10 Thread John Aldrich
Thanks. That's kind of what I thought. When I rebuilt the laptop, I did NOT
add the user to the local admins group, so hopefully this won't happen
again. I just find it strange that the D: drive was showing up as
unformatted. About the only thing I could attribute this to was some sort
of fatal interaction between Vipre and the Embassy Trust Suite which may
have been installed on there originally, but why it would ONLY affect the D:
drive, I don't know. In any case, I guess we can chalk this up as resolved
but still have lots of questions.

 

Note that I did NOT authorize the friend to look at the laptop. The user
took it upon himself to do this. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Strangeness with Windows XP laptop

 

Short version: User has admin rights.

 

Long version:  Modelel of the printer is missing, users need to be trained
to restart when Vipre or Windows tells them to restart.  Instructing them on
the consequences of failing to do the restart when requested is just as
important.  Lastly, employees should not allow IT people not from your
company to touch the laptop.  You have no idea of what he did, and even if
he told you what he did, he likely forgot something unless he was taking
notes while he was doing it.

 

There's a huge black hole of missing information that can only be filled in
by speculation, or someone who has the same exact printer and also underwent
the vipre upgrade and proceeded to ignore the restart warning that it is
unlikely you'll have a (satisfactory) answer.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
wrote:

Here's the situation:

I have a few laptops that I manage running XP Pro SP3. Last night (Sunday)
one of my users called me at home saying he had been working on an important
presentation and when he went to print it, he realized he didn't have his
home printer installed, so he tried to hook up an old HP Inkjet he had at
home. Then after installing the drivers, Windows said it needed to reboot
and when he did, it all went south. The laptop would not let him log back in
as it did not recognize his USERID and a friend of his (an IT Manager for a
big telecom company which shall not be revealed) poked around and couldn't
find his profile (on the d: drive) so they called me. 

 

I drove an hour into the office to meet him and I found the same thing. It
wouldn't even recognize *my* profile. It gave me an error when I tried to
log in that a Google search turned up a Microsoft article about too many
security products installed. The error was 0x0035
NO_MORE_IRP_STACK_LOCATIONS. The article gave a registry hack that should
fix it if a hotfix was applied, prior to SP3. The same article stated that
the hotfix was included in SP3, but it also said that if the hotfix was not
installed, the registry hack would be ignored.

 

It *did* allow me to log in as the local admin in safe mode, but would not
let me log onto a domain account, even after the registry hack. I was also
unable to pull up the installed programs list (add/remove programs) as the
local admin in safe mode. I ended up wiping and reinstalling Windows. Office
and Vipre Enterprise.  I also had to format the D: drive as Windows said it
was not formatted.

 

Now one thing I haven't mentioned until now was that I had upgraded Vipre
Enterprise from Vipre 3.x to Vipre 4 the previous week, and advised the user
to restart his computer. He never got around to restarting it until Sunday
evening after installing the HP printer driver. 

 

Any clue what could have happened?

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

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