RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-08 Thread Oliver Marshall
VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G
connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains
of too many connections.

I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help.

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're
allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an
open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound
right.

Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else?
Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct.

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same.

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc.

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box.

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly



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RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-08 Thread Ames Matthew B
Is coverage likely to be an issue?  Where I live t-mobile is next to
useless, where as vodafone is champs :-)  Infact my lodger has a
t-mobile phone, and it only works in about 2 places in the house! 

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 08:32
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G
connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains
of too many connections.

I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help.

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're
allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an
open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound
right.

Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else?
Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct.

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same.

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc.

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box.

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly



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RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-08 Thread Rankin, James R
I'll second that for T-Mobile's horrendous UK coverage. I used to have a
phone with them, and the only place I could get any decent signal was the
pub toilets. Since I switched to O2, no problems at all.

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 08:39
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Is coverage likely to be an issue?  Where I live t-mobile is next to
useless, where as vodafone is champs :-)  Infact my lodger has a
t-mobile phone, and it only works in about 2 places in the house! 

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 08:32
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G
connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains
of too many connections.

I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help.

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're
allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an
open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound
right.

Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else?
Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct.

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same.

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc.

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box.

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly



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monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit 
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to this.

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control, security and other business purposes.

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Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom
Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road,
Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom 
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RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-08 Thread Ames Matthew B
Fine if you have a desire to call the numbers written on the pub toilet
walls then :-)

I have always stuck with Voda for the slightly better coverage - it is
on the only operater that works at my parents (top of Mendip / middle of
Somerset) 

-Original Message-
From: Rankin, James R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 08:51
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

I'll second that for T-Mobile's horrendous UK coverage. I used to have a
phone with them, and the only place I could get any decent signal was
the
pub toilets. Since I switched to O2, no problems at all.

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 08:39
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Is coverage likely to be an issue?  Where I live t-mobile is next to
useless, where as vodafone is champs :-)  Infact my lodger has a
t-mobile phone, and it only works in about 2 places in the house! 

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 08:32
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G
connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains
of too many connections.

I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help.

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're
allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an
open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound
right.

Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else?
Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct.

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same.

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc.

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box.

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly
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Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom
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RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-08 Thread Ken Schaefer
What is replying with the too many connections? You said you get this when 
you telnet to your SMTP server? Is your SMTP server responding with that 
message? Or something in between?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 5:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G
connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains
of too many connections.

I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help.

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're
allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an
open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound
right.

Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else?
Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct.

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same.

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc.

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box.

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly



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RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-08 Thread Ames Matthew B
I am wondering if maybe vodafone is redirecting all port 25 traffic
maybe?

Do you see the correct welcome string from which ever smtp server you
are telnetting to on port 25 from your vodafone 3G connection? 

Telnet mail.bbc.co.uk

Should give:
220 gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk ESMTP Sendmail  ready

Strangely enough I can't even telnet to send.vodafone.net on port 25
from normal DSL connection

However smtp.vodafone.net on port 25 gives me:
220 gps08-c11d7.vodafone.net ESMTP Service (Nplex 6.0.021C4.14) ready

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 09:05
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

What is replying with the too many connections? You said you get this
when you telnet to your SMTP server? Is your SMTP server responding with
that message? Or something in between?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 5:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G
connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains
of too many connections.

I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help.

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're
allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an
open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound
right.

Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else?
Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct.

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same.

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc.

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box.

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly



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confidential and/or legally privileged.  Nothing in this e-mail is 
intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ 
subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail 
contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase 
Order.

For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, 
distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance 
on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful.

Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be 
monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit 
and archival purposes.  Any response to this email indicates consent 
to this.

Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality 
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Registered in England  Wales: Company Number:3796233

RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-08 Thread Oliver Marshall
Im afraid to say, T-Mobile rocks for me :) Coverage, cost, decent phones
(finally) and the TyTn2 as well. Perfect.

-Original Message-
From: Rankin, James R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 08:51
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

I'll second that for T-Mobile's horrendous UK coverage. I used to have a
phone with them, and the only place I could get any decent signal was
the
pub toilets. Since I switched to O2, no problems at all.

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 08:39
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Is coverage likely to be an issue?  Where I live t-mobile is next to
useless, where as vodafone is champs :-)  Infact my lodger has a
t-mobile phone, and it only works in about 2 places in the house! 

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 08:32
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G
connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains
of too many connections.

I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help.

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're
allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an
open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound
right.

Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else?
Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct.

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same.

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc.

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box.

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly



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RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-08 Thread Oliver Marshall
Yep we see a welcome string correct for the server we are telnetting to.

We see one of two messages. Either TOO MANY CONNECTIONS immediately or
AUTHORIZATION REQUIRED after authorizing. Both errors are odd, as at
least two of the servers have limits of many 1000's but show at the time
of tests maybe 10 connections, and are only used by 15 people in the
company at most. The authorization required error is weird coz we are
authorising, and outlook, with the username/password set, fails
instantly it flicks to 3g and works as soon as we go to wifi. 

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 09:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

I am wondering if maybe vodafone is redirecting all port 25 traffic
maybe?

Do you see the correct welcome string from which ever smtp server you
are telnetting to on port 25 from your vodafone 3G connection? 

Telnet mail.bbc.co.uk

Should give:
220 gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk ESMTP Sendmail  ready

Strangely enough I can't even telnet to send.vodafone.net on port 25
from normal DSL connection

However smtp.vodafone.net on port 25 gives me:
220 gps08-c11d7.vodafone.net ESMTP Service (Nplex 6.0.021C4.14) ready

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 09:05
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

What is replying with the too many connections? You said you get this
when you telnet to your SMTP server? Is your SMTP server responding with
that message? Or something in between?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 5:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G
connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains
of too many connections.

I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help.

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're
allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an
open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound
right.

Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else?
Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct.

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same.

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc.

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box.

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly



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RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-08 Thread Ken Schaefer
The SMTP AUTH stuff probably fails in Outlook because it uses NTLM. NTLM 
requires an end-to-end TCP connection - the underlying TCP connection is 
authenticated (if there is a proxy, you need a compatible forward proxy in 
between like ISA Server, and the Vodafone one probably isn't compatible). 
That's probably why the Outlook option is failing. I can't explain the too 
many connections message though.

Why can't you setup a VPN? You can't install RRAS on your SMTP gateway? Or the 
gateway is not running Windows Server?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 8:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Yep we see a welcome string correct for the server we are telnetting to.

We see one of two messages. Either TOO MANY CONNECTIONS immediately or
AUTHORIZATION REQUIRED after authorizing. Both errors are odd, as at
least two of the servers have limits of many 1000's but show at the time
of tests maybe 10 connections, and are only used by 15 people in the
company at most. The authorization required error is weird coz we are
authorising, and outlook, with the username/password set, fails
instantly it flicks to 3g and works as soon as we go to wifi.

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2008 09:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

I am wondering if maybe vodafone is redirecting all port 25 traffic
maybe?

Do you see the correct welcome string from which ever smtp server you
are telnetting to on port 25 from your vodafone 3G connection?

Telnet mail.bbc.co.uk

Should give:
220 gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk ESMTP Sendmail  ready

Strangely enough I can't even telnet to send.vodafone.net on port 25
from normal DSL connection

However smtp.vodafone.net on port 25 gives me:
220 gps08-c11d7.vodafone.net ESMTP Service (Nplex 6.0.021C4.14) ready

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2008 09:05
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

What is replying with the too many connections? You said you get this
when you telnet to your SMTP server? Is your SMTP server responding with
that message? Or something in between?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 5:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G
connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains
of too many connections.

I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help.

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're
allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an
open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound
right.

Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else?
Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct.

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same.

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc.

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box.

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly



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RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-07 Thread Ames Matthew B
I think you can also use smtp.vodafone.net but you need to authenticate
against that, and again that won't help with the archive side of things.

Workaround: vpn back into work? 

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:28
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. 

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net 

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same. 

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. 

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. 

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly

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RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-07 Thread Oliver Marshall
Yeah we've tried using telnet to send manually. We just get TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS come up in the mail server header. That happens on any mail
server.

-Original Message-
From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2008 16:06
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Trying to send email via SMTP on your own servers cannot be guaranteed.
ISPs will push the connection through their own servers, block the
connections to remote servers and generally cause a lot of problems. You
should avoid using plain SMTP for roaming users if possible,
particularly if you need to keep a copy of the email on the server.

If you need the email to go through your own servers then you have three
options.

- If Exchange 2003 or higher RPC over HTTPS or OWA.
- VPN
- If you aren't using Exchange then you could also look at TLS/SMTPS if
your server supports it on another port - 465. Technically legacy, but
most email servers and clients can be configured to use it.

Ping/nslookup means nothing other than a packet is being sent back. As a
troubleshooting tool it is about as much use as shouting in a valley is
there anyone there?.
What you should be doing is seeing whether you can telnet to the port.
That will confirm connectivity.

telnet server.domain.co.uk 25

If the cursor just sits there then the traffic is being blocked.

Simon.



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-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:28
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct.

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same.

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc.

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box.

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly

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Re: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-07 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Oliver Marshall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can anyone think of a work around ?

  Aside from the VPN others suggested...

  A lot of mail servers are already running an MSA (Mail Submission
Agent -- think SMTP lite) on TCP/587, but that's also sometimes
filtered by ISPs.  If so, have your SMTP server run on some
additional, non-standard port.  The ISP is likely only looking for
TCP/25.  You don't even need to use TLS or SMTP authentication,
although those are certainly a good idea.

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RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

2008-04-07 Thread Ken Schaefer
Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're allowing 
connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an open relay) In 
that case the auth required codes you're getting sound right.

Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else?
Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Will do.

If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers,
well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps
use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct.

Can anyone think of a work around ?

Olly

-Original Message-
From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Try this server:

send.vodafone.net

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers

Lo gang,

Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either
usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via
smtp servers?

We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try
to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY
CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail
filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted
PLESK mail server etc. All the same.

Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a
standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone
service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down
the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc.

Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting
to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box.

Anyone else seen the same thing?

Olly



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