RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains of too many connections. I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help. Olly -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound right. Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else? Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
Is coverage likely to be an issue? Where I live t-mobile is next to useless, where as vodafone is champs :-) Infact my lodger has a t-mobile phone, and it only works in about 2 places in the house! -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 08:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains of too many connections. I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help. Olly -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound right. Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else? Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.html ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
I'll second that for T-Mobile's horrendous UK coverage. I used to have a phone with them, and the only place I could get any decent signal was the pub toilets. Since I switched to O2, no problems at all. -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 08:39 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Is coverage likely to be an issue? Where I live t-mobile is next to useless, where as vodafone is champs :-) Infact my lodger has a t-mobile phone, and it only works in about 2 places in the house! -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 08:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains of too many connections. I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help. Olly -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound right. Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else? Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.html ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt
RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
Fine if you have a desire to call the numbers written on the pub toilet walls then :-) I have always stuck with Voda for the slightly better coverage - it is on the only operater that works at my parents (top of Mendip / middle of Somerset) -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 08:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers I'll second that for T-Mobile's horrendous UK coverage. I used to have a phone with them, and the only place I could get any decent signal was the pub toilets. Since I switched to O2, no problems at all. -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 08:39 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Is coverage likely to be an issue? Where I live t-mobile is next to useless, where as vodafone is champs :-) Infact my lodger has a t-mobile phone, and it only works in about 2 places in the house! -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 08:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains of too many connections. I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help. Olly -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound right. Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else? Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.html ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus
RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
What is replying with the too many connections? You said you get this when you telnet to your SMTP server? Is your SMTP server responding with that message? Or something in between? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 5:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains of too many connections. I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help. Olly -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound right. Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else? Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
I am wondering if maybe vodafone is redirecting all port 25 traffic maybe? Do you see the correct welcome string from which ever smtp server you are telnetting to on port 25 from your vodafone 3G connection? Telnet mail.bbc.co.uk Should give: 220 gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk ESMTP Sendmail ready Strangely enough I can't even telnet to send.vodafone.net on port 25 from normal DSL connection However smtp.vodafone.net on port 25 gives me: 220 gps08-c11d7.vodafone.net ESMTP Service (Nplex 6.0.021C4.14) ready -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 09:05 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers What is replying with the too many connections? You said you get this when you telnet to your SMTP server? Is your SMTP server responding with that message? Or something in between? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 5:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains of too many connections. I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help. Olly -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound right. Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else? Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233
RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
Im afraid to say, T-Mobile rocks for me :) Coverage, cost, decent phones (finally) and the TyTn2 as well. Perfect. -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 08:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers I'll second that for T-Mobile's horrendous UK coverage. I used to have a phone with them, and the only place I could get any decent signal was the pub toilets. Since I switched to O2, no problems at all. -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 08:39 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Is coverage likely to be an issue? Where I live t-mobile is next to useless, where as vodafone is champs :-) Infact my lodger has a t-mobile phone, and it only works in about 2 places in the house! -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 08:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains of too many connections. I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help. Olly -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound right. Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else? Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough
RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
Yep we see a welcome string correct for the server we are telnetting to. We see one of two messages. Either TOO MANY CONNECTIONS immediately or AUTHORIZATION REQUIRED after authorizing. Both errors are odd, as at least two of the servers have limits of many 1000's but show at the time of tests maybe 10 connections, and are only used by 15 people in the company at most. The authorization required error is weird coz we are authorising, and outlook, with the username/password set, fails instantly it flicks to 3g and works as soon as we go to wifi. -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 09:15 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers I am wondering if maybe vodafone is redirecting all port 25 traffic maybe? Do you see the correct welcome string from which ever smtp server you are telnetting to on port 25 from your vodafone 3G connection? Telnet mail.bbc.co.uk Should give: 220 gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk ESMTP Sendmail ready Strangely enough I can't even telnet to send.vodafone.net on port 25 from normal DSL connection However smtp.vodafone.net on port 25 gives me: 220 gps08-c11d7.vodafone.net ESMTP Service (Nplex 6.0.021C4.14) ready -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 09:05 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers What is replying with the too many connections? You said you get this when you telnet to your SMTP server? Is your SMTP server responding with that message? Or something in between? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 5:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains of too many connections. I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help. Olly -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound right. Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else? Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other
RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
The SMTP AUTH stuff probably fails in Outlook because it uses NTLM. NTLM requires an end-to-end TCP connection - the underlying TCP connection is authenticated (if there is a proxy, you need a compatible forward proxy in between like ISA Server, and the Vodafone one probably isn't compatible). That's probably why the Outlook option is failing. I can't explain the too many connections message though. Why can't you setup a VPN? You can't install RRAS on your SMTP gateway? Or the gateway is not running Windows Server? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 8:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Yep we see a welcome string correct for the server we are telnetting to. We see one of two messages. Either TOO MANY CONNECTIONS immediately or AUTHORIZATION REQUIRED after authorizing. Both errors are odd, as at least two of the servers have limits of many 1000's but show at the time of tests maybe 10 connections, and are only used by 15 people in the company at most. The authorization required error is weird coz we are authorising, and outlook, with the username/password set, fails instantly it flicks to 3g and works as soon as we go to wifi. -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 09:15 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers I am wondering if maybe vodafone is redirecting all port 25 traffic maybe? Do you see the correct welcome string from which ever smtp server you are telnetting to on port 25 from your vodafone 3G connection? Telnet mail.bbc.co.uk Should give: 220 gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk ESMTP Sendmail ready Strangely enough I can't even telnet to send.vodafone.net on port 25 from normal DSL connection However smtp.vodafone.net on port 25 gives me: 220 gps08-c11d7.vodafone.net ESMTP Service (Nplex 6.0.021C4.14) ready -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 09:05 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers What is replying with the too many connections? You said you get this when you telnet to your SMTP server? Is your SMTP server responding with that message? Or something in between? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 5:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers VPN isn't an option alas. AUTH SMTP is being used, and without the 3G connection it authorises fine. With it, it doesn't, or worse complains of too many connections. I'll move them over to t-mobile. Thanks for your help. Olly -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 23:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound right. Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else? Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly ~ Upgrade
RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
I think you can also use smtp.vodafone.net but you need to authenticate against that, and again that won't help with the archive side of things. Workaround: vpn back into work? -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:28 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.html ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.html ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com
RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
Yeah we've tried using telnet to send manually. We just get TOO MANY CONNECTIONS come up in the mail server header. That happens on any mail server. -Original Message- From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 16:06 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Trying to send email via SMTP on your own servers cannot be guaranteed. ISPs will push the connection through their own servers, block the connections to remote servers and generally cause a lot of problems. You should avoid using plain SMTP for roaming users if possible, particularly if you need to keep a copy of the email on the server. If you need the email to go through your own servers then you have three options. - If Exchange 2003 or higher RPC over HTTPS or OWA. - VPN - If you aren't using Exchange then you could also look at TLS/SMTPS if your server supports it on another port - 465. Technically legacy, but most email servers and clients can be configured to use it. Ping/nslookup means nothing other than a packet is being sent back. As a troubleshooting tool it is about as much use as shouting in a valley is there anyone there?. What you should be doing is seeing whether you can telnet to the port. That will confirm connectivity. telnet server.domain.co.uk 25 If the cursor just sits there then the traffic is being blocked. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset.co.uk w: www.amset.info Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? Go to http://www.certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates for just $20 a year. Now includes SAN certificates for Exchange 2007 for just $59 a year. Need a domain for your SSL certificate? http://www.domainsforexchange.net/ -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:28 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.html ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus
Re: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Oliver Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone think of a work around ? Aside from the VPN others suggested... A lot of mail servers are already running an MSA (Mail Submission Agent -- think SMTP lite) on TCP/587, but that's also sometimes filtered by ISPs. If so, have your SMTP server run on some additional, non-standard port. The ISP is likely only looking for TCP/25. You don't even need to use TLS or SMTP authentication, although those are certainly a good idea. -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers
Surely you'd have AUTH SMTP enabled on your own mailserver if you're allowing connections from outside your network? (Otherwise you'd be an open relay) In that case the auth required codes you're getting sound right. Are you using Exchange for mail? Or something else? Can you get the guys to VPN back to your network? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Will do. If Vodafone is forcing the use of their own mail servers, well.erthat's a bugger. We'd like to make the sales chaps use our own mail server in order to keep the archive correct. Can anyone think of a work around ? Olly -Original Message- From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Try this server: send.vodafone.net -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 15:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Vodafone 3G-USB and SMTP servers Lo gang, Anyone here getting a problem with Vodafone 3G enabled laptops (either usb adapter based machines or inbuilt 3g units) and sending mail via smtp servers? We've just got 3 3g cards for laptops. No matter what mail server we try to use they all return either AUTHORISATION REQUIRED or TOO MANY CONNECTIONS. We've tried our own mail server here, sending via our mail filtering service, sending straight to client mail servers, our hosted PLESK mail server etc. All the same. Vodafone as usual are being as helpful as choco-teapots and giving us a standard response, but the problem only happens when using the Vodafone service. Using the T-Mobile equivalent works fine as does the wifi down the road, our office connections, home adsl lines etc. Pinging the mail servers comes back with the right IP, and tracerouting to the mail servers shows it's hitting the box. Anyone else seen the same thing? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~