RE: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

2012-10-03 Thread Tom Miller
I finally decided to just log the accounts in via Web Interface, load the app, 
disconnect, then the same with the remainder accounts.  This works fine and we 
just restart the accounts after the servers are rebooted weekly.  This was I 
can reconnect at home as the accounts as needed
 
Thanks for all the suggestions, folks.

 Webster webs...@carlwebster.com 10/1/2012 6:21 PM 

Sorry I am buried writing documentation.  You should try the thinlist.  
http://www.msterminalservices.org/pages/thinlist.asp

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From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

 
You might have to change the authentication type. Webster will know better. Its 
near midnight here :-)

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From: Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org 

Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:53:13 -0400

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Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

 

Thanks. How do I do that? It uses AD creds from the user already in XA, so is 
there a way I can force run as? 
Tom Miller 
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

 James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com 10/1/2012 5:42:59 PM 
You could publish the application through Citrix and set it so it needed 
authentication when you log in as an alternative, but you'd still have the 
multiple instances of it on the end client device

On 1 October 2012 22:35, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:
Uummm dunno but I didn't think of that. I will try that but that could get 
messy - lots of screens.

These are regular AD accounts though. 

Tom Miller 
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

 James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com 10/1/2012 5:21:19 PM 

Can't you manage this with a single RDP session and use Run As A Different User 
for each instance of the app? Or is it internal application user ids we are 
talking as opposed to AD accounts?

On 1 October 2012 22:15, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:



Sorry, it is a complicated system. There are special accounts that have to be 
logged into run specific application components. Once you start the component, 
it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else. But...there are a 
number of special accounts that are used to run the processes. The vendor 
recommends logging into the server via remote desktop, starting the app, 
disconnecting, login with the next account, start the app, then the same with 
the other accounts (there are 10 or so).

I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface. Can I do this with 
regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else? 
Tom Miller 
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

 Webster webs...@carlwebster.com 10/1/2012 4:46:10 PM 

I am confused also.
 
Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com ( http://www.carlwebster.com/ )
 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

 
I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a 
particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an 
administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?

On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

Hi Folks,

 

We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular component 
that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do not run 
(appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to the server, 
load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote desktop again, 
login as a different user, then load the app again (same app but different 
processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on one server 
designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5 server.

 

Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts use 
the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote desktop 
would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how to set this 
up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.


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Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

2012-10-01 Thread James Rankin
I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a
particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an
administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?

On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

  Hi Folks,

 We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular
 component that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do
 not run (appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to
 the server, load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote
 desktop again, login as a different user, then load the app again (same app
 but different processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on
 one server designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5
 server.

 Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts
 use the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote
 desktop would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how
 to set this up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.

 Tom

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RE: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

2012-10-01 Thread Webster
I am confused also.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a 
particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an 
administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?
On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller 
tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:
Hi Folks,

We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular component 
that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do not run 
(appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to the server, 
load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote desktop again, 
login as a different user, then load the app again (same app but different 
processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on one server 
designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5 server.

Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts use 
the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote desktop 
would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how to set this 
up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.

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Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

2012-10-01 Thread Tom Miller
Sorry, it is a complicated system.  There are special accounts that have to be 
logged into run specific application components.  Once you start the component, 
it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else.  But...there are a 
number of special accounts that are used to run the processes.  The vendor 
recommends logging into the server via remote desktop, starting the app, 
disconnecting, login with the next account, start the app, then the same with 
the other accounts (there are 10 or so).

I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface.  Can I do this with 
regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else?
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

 Webster webs...@carlwebster.com 10/1/2012 4:46:10 PM I am confused 
 also.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a 
particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an 
administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?
On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller 
tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:
Hi Folks,

We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular component 
that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do not run 
(appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to the server, 
load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote desktop again, 
login as a different user, then load the app again (same app but different 
processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on one server 
designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5 server.

Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts use 
the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote desktop 
would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how to set this 
up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.

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Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

2012-10-01 Thread James Rankin
Can't you manage this with a single RDP session and use Run As A Different
User for each instance of the app? Or is it internal application user ids
we are talking as opposed to AD accounts?

On 1 October 2012 22:15, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Sorry, it is a complicated system. There are special accounts that have to
 be logged into run specific application components. Once you start the
 component, it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else.
 But...there are a number of special accounts that are used to run the
 processes. The vendor recommends logging into the server via remote
 desktop, starting the app, disconnecting, login with the next account,
 start the app, then the same with the other accounts (there are 10 or so).

 I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface. Can I do this
 with regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else?
 Tom Miller
 Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board

  Webster webs...@carlwebster.com 10/1/2012 4:46:10 PM 

 I am confused also.

 ** **

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 ** **

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Subject:* Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

 ** **

 I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a
 particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an
 administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?***
 *

 On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Hi Folks,

  

 We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular
 component that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do
 not run (appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to
 the server, load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote
 desktop again, login as a different user, then load the app again (same app
 but different processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on
 one server designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5
 server.

  

 Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts
 use the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote
 desktop would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how
 to set this up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.

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RE: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

2012-10-01 Thread Damien Solodow
Sounds like these are processes they should turn into services or perhaps 
scheduled tasks. :)

But in the interim, I'd think you'd be able to just sign in via Remote Desktop 
to start the sessions and launch the apps.

Might check out something like MRemoteNG or RemoteDesktopManager which would 
let you create a different connection for each special account.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

Sorry, it is a complicated system. There are special accounts that have to be 
logged into run specific application components. Once you start the component, 
it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else. But...there are a 
number of special accounts that are used to run the processes. The vendor 
recommends logging into the server via remote desktop, starting the app, 
disconnecting, login with the next account, start the app, then the same with 
the other accounts (there are 10 or so).

I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface. Can I do this with 
regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else?
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board

 Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com 10/1/2012 
 4:46:10 PM 
I am confused also.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: James Rankin 
[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a 
particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an 
administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?
On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller 
tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:
Hi Folks,

We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular component 
that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do not run 
(appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to the server, 
load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote desktop again, 
login as a different user, then load the app again (same app but different 
processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on one server 
designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5 server.

Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts use 
the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote desktop 
would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how to set this 
up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.

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Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

2012-10-01 Thread Tom Miller
Uummm dunno but I didn't think of that.  I will try that but that could get 
messy - lots of screens.

These are regular AD accounts though.
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

 James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com 10/1/2012 5:21:19 PM Can't you 
 manage this with a single RDP session and use Run As A Different
User for each instance of the app? Or is it internal application user ids
we are talking as opposed to AD accounts?

On 1 October 2012 22:15, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Sorry, it is a complicated system. There are special accounts that have to
 be logged into run specific application components. Once you start the
 component, it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else.
 But...there are a number of special accounts that are used to run the
 processes. The vendor recommends logging into the server via remote
 desktop, starting the app, disconnecting, login with the next account,
 start the app, then the same with the other accounts (there are 10 or so).

 I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface. Can I do this
 with regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else?
 Tom Miller
 Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board

  Webster webs...@carlwebster.com 10/1/2012 4:46:10 PM 

 I am confused also.

 ** **

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 ** **

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Subject:* Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

 ** **

 I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a
 particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an
 administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?***
 *

 On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Hi Folks,

  

 We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular
 component that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do
 not run (appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to
 the server, load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote
 desktop again, login as a different user, then load the app again (same app
 but different processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on
 one server designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5
 server.

  

 Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts
 use the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote
 desktop would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how
 to set this up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.

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Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

2012-10-01 Thread James Rankin
You could publish the application through Citrix and set it so it needed
authentication when you log in as an alternative, but you'd still have the
multiple instances of it on the end client device

On 1 October 2012 22:35, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Uummm dunno but I didn't think of that. I will try that but that could get
 messy - lots of screens.

 These are regular AD accounts though.
 Tom Miller
 Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board

  James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com 10/1/2012 5:21:19 PM 
 Can't you manage this with a single RDP session and use Run As A Different
 User for each instance of the app? Or is it internal application user ids
 we are talking as opposed to AD accounts?

 On 1 October 2012 22:15, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Sorry, it is a complicated system. There are special accounts that have
 to be logged into run specific application components. Once you start the
 component, it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else.
 But...there are a number of special accounts that are used to run the
 processes. The vendor recommends logging into the server via remote
 desktop, starting the app, disconnecting, login with the next account,
 start the app, then the same with the other accounts (there are 10 or so).

 I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface. Can I do this
 with regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else?
 Tom Miller
 Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board

  Webster webs...@carlwebster.com 10/1/2012 4:46:10 PM 

 I am confused also.

 ** **

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 ** **

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Subject:* Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

 ** **

 I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a
 particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an
 administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?**
 **

 On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Hi Folks,

  

 We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular
 component that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do
 not run (appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to
 the server, load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote
 desktop again, login as a different user, then load the app again (same app
 but different processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on
 one server designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5
 server.

  

 Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts
 use the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote
 desktop would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how
 to set this up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.

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Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

2012-10-01 Thread Tom Miller
Thanks.  How do I do that?  It uses AD creds from the user already in XA, so is 
there a way I can force run as?
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

 James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com 10/1/2012 5:42:59 PM You could 
 publish the application through Citrix and set it so it needed
authentication when you log in as an alternative, but you'd still have the
multiple instances of it on the end client device

On 1 October 2012 22:35, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Uummm dunno but I didn't think of that. I will try that but that could get
 messy - lots of screens.

 These are regular AD accounts though.
 Tom Miller
 Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board

  James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com 10/1/2012 5:21:19 PM 
 Can't you manage this with a single RDP session and use Run As A Different
 User for each instance of the app? Or is it internal application user ids
 we are talking as opposed to AD accounts?

 On 1 October 2012 22:15, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Sorry, it is a complicated system. There are special accounts that have
 to be logged into run specific application components. Once you start the
 component, it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else.
 But...there are a number of special accounts that are used to run the
 processes. The vendor recommends logging into the server via remote
 desktop, starting the app, disconnecting, login with the next account,
 start the app, then the same with the other accounts (there are 10 or so).

 I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface. Can I do this
 with regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else?
 Tom Miller
 Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board

  Webster webs...@carlwebster.com 10/1/2012 4:46:10 PM 

 I am confused also.

 ** **

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 ** **

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Subject:* Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

 ** **

 I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a
 particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an
 administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?**
 **

 On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Hi Folks,

  

 We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular
 component that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do
 not run (appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to
 the server, load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote
 desktop again, login as a different user, then load the app again (same app
 but different processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on
 one server designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5
 server.

  

 Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts
 use the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote
 desktop would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how
 to set this up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.

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 never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent,
 sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted,
 amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm
 animals or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent
 minority (such as extraterrestrial

Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

2012-10-01 Thread Rankin, James R
You might have to change the authentication type. Webster will know better. Its 
near midnight here :-)

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:53:13 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, 
Remote desktop

Thanks.  How do I do that?  It uses AD creds from the user already in XA, so is 
there a way I can force run as?
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

 James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com 10/1/2012 5:42:59 PM You could 
 publish the application through Citrix and set it so it needed
authentication when you log in as an alternative, but you'd still have the
multiple instances of it on the end client device

On 1 October 2012 22:35, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Uummm dunno but I didn't think of that. I will try that but that could get
 messy - lots of screens.

 These are regular AD accounts though.
 Tom Miller
 Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board

  James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com 10/1/2012 5:21:19 PM 
 Can't you manage this with a single RDP session and use Run As A Different
 User for each instance of the app? Or is it internal application user ids
 we are talking as opposed to AD accounts?

 On 1 October 2012 22:15, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Sorry, it is a complicated system. There are special accounts that have
 to be logged into run specific application components. Once you start the
 component, it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else.
 But...there are a number of special accounts that are used to run the
 processes. The vendor recommends logging into the server via remote
 desktop, starting the app, disconnecting, login with the next account,
 start the app, then the same with the other accounts (there are 10 or so).

 I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface. Can I do this
 with regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else?
 Tom Miller
 Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board

  Webster webs...@carlwebster.com 10/1/2012 4:46:10 PM 

 I am confused also.

 ** **

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 ** **

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Subject:* Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

 ** **

 I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a
 particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an
 administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?**
 **

 On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Hi Folks,

  

 We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular
 component that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do
 not run (appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to
 the server, load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote
 desktop again, login as a different user, then load the app again (same app
 but different processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on
 one server designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5
 server.

  

 Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts
 use the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote
 desktop would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how
 to set this up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.

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RE: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

2012-10-01 Thread Webster
Sorry I am buried writing documentation.  You should try the thinlist.  
http://www.msterminalservices.org/pages/thinlist.asp
Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

You might have to change the authentication type. Webster will know better. Its 
near midnight here :-)
---Blackberried

From: Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:53:13 -0400
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

Thanks. How do I do that? It uses AD creds from the user already in XA, so is 
there a way I can force run as?
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board

 James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com 
 10/1/2012 5:42:59 PM 
You could publish the application through Citrix and set it so it needed 
authentication when you log in as an alternative, but you'd still have the 
multiple instances of it on the end client device
On 1 October 2012 22:35, Tom Miller 
tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:
Uummm dunno but I didn't think of that. I will try that but that could get 
messy - lots of screens.

These are regular AD accounts though.
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
 James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com 
 10/1/2012 5:21:19 PM 
Can't you manage this with a single RDP session and use Run As A Different User 
for each instance of the app? Or is it internal application user ids we are 
talking as opposed to AD accounts?
On 1 October 2012 22:15, Tom Miller 
tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:
Sorry, it is a complicated system. There are special accounts that have to be 
logged into run specific application components. Once you start the component, 
it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else. But...there are a 
number of special accounts that are used to run the processes. The vendor 
recommends logging into the server via remote desktop, starting the app, 
disconnecting, login with the next account, start the app, then the same with 
the other accounts (there are 10 or so).

I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface. Can I do this with 
regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else?
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board

 Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com 10/1/2012 
 4:46:10 PM 
I am confused also.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a 
particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an 
administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?
On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller 
tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:
Hi Folks,

We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular component 
that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do not run 
(appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to the server, 
load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote desktop again, 
login as a different user, then load the app again (same app but different 
processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on one server 
designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5 server.

Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts use 
the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote desktop 
would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how to set this 
up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.

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