RE: excluding WDS from System State backup

2012-11-26 Thread Guyer, Don
Don't think you can exclude any part of the SS.

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From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: excluding WDS from System State backup

I'm using Backupexec 2012.  I'd like to exclude WDS from being backed up as 
part of the System State backups because it adds 100Gb to each nightly System 
State backup because of the images folder.  I can't seem to find a way to 
exclude JUST the WDS stuff from the System State.  It seems to be all or 
nothing.  Is this possible to do?

Thanks



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RE: excluding WDS from System State backup

2012-11-26 Thread Mike Hoffman
That's the reason we use lots of drive letters. In the SBS world where we 
typically work we tend to put WSUS and other 'stuff' on their own drives for 
that kind of reason. Heck we even have one server with a TB USB drive attached 
which is then passed through to the Hyper-V client just for random un-backed up 
stuff.

How about moving WDS into it's own drive? You could always virtualise and 
over-provision (is that he correct word?).

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: 26 November 2012 18:10
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup

Don't think you can exclude any part of the SS.

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory  Messaging 
Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.org
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From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: excluding WDS from System State backup

I'm using Backupexec 2012.  I'd like to exclude WDS from being backed up as 
part of the System State backups because it adds 100Gb to each nightly System 
State backup because of the images folder.  I can't seem to find a way to 
exclude JUST the WDS stuff from the System State.  It seems to be all or 
nothing.  Is this possible to do?

Thanks



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RE: excluding WDS from System State backup

2012-11-26 Thread jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
WDS is already on a separate drive.  Yet I'm still forced to back up WDS as
part of the System State, best I can tell.


Original Message:
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From: Mike Hoffman m...@drumbrae.net
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:46:34 +
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup


That's the reason we use lots of drive letters. In the SBS world where we
typically work we tend to put WSUS and other 'stuff' on their own drives
for that kind of reason. Heck we even have one server with a TB USB drive
attached which is then passed through to the Hyper-V client just for random
un-backed up stuff.

How about moving WDS into it's own drive? You could always virtualise and
over-provision (is that he correct word?).

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: 26 November 2012 18:10
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup

Don't think you can exclude any part of the SS.

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory 
Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.org
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For
immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the
helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.


-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: excluding WDS from System State backup

I'm using Backupexec 2012.  I'd like to exclude WDS from being backed up as
part of the System State backups because it adds 100Gb to each nightly
System State backup because of the images folder.  I can't seem to find a
way to exclude JUST the WDS stuff from the System State.  It seems to be
all or nothing.  Is this possible to do?

Thanks



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RE: excluding WDS from System State backup

2012-11-26 Thread Guyer, Don
Quick Google uncovered a post stating to stop the WDS service prior to backup.

Proceed at your own risk, YMMV and all that cr@p...

: )

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.org
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-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup

WDS is already on a separate drive.  Yet I'm still forced to back up WDS as 
part of the System State, best I can tell.


Original Message:
-
From: Mike Hoffman m...@drumbrae.net
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:46:34 +
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup


That's the reason we use lots of drive letters. In the SBS world where we 
typically work we tend to put WSUS and other 'stuff' on their own drives for 
that kind of reason. Heck we even have one server with a TB USB drive attached 
which is then passed through to the Hyper-V client just for random un-backed up 
stuff.

How about moving WDS into it's own drive? You could always virtualise and 
over-provision (is that he correct word?).

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org]
Sent: 26 November 2012 18:10
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup

Don't think you can exclude any part of the SS.

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory  Messaging 
Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.org
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate 
assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 
610-492-3839.


-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: excluding WDS from System State backup

I'm using Backupexec 2012.  I'd like to exclude WDS from being backed up as 
part of the System State backups because it adds 100Gb to each nightly System 
State backup because of the images folder.  I can't seem to find a way to 
exclude JUST the WDS stuff from the System State.  It seems to be all or 
nothing.  Is this possible to do?

Thanks



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Re: excluding WDS from System State backup

2012-11-26 Thread Jonathan Link
IMO, the WDS server doesn't change often enough to require frequent
backups.  It gets an ad hoc backup, and relatively infrequent updates, as
necessary, based on changes to the image library.


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:05 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
jesse-r...@wi.rr.comwrote:

 WDS is already on a separate drive.  Yet I'm still forced to back up WDS as
 part of the System State, best I can tell.


 Original Message:
 -
 From: Mike Hoffman m...@drumbrae.net
 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:46:34 +
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup


 That's the reason we use lots of drive letters. In the SBS world where we
 typically work we tend to put WSUS and other 'stuff' on their own drives
 for that kind of reason. Heck we even have one server with a TB USB drive
 attached which is then passed through to the Hyper-V client just for random
 un-backed up stuff.

 How about moving WDS into it's own drive? You could always virtualise and
 over-provision (is that he correct word?).

 Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org]
 Sent: 26 November 2012 18:10
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup

 Don't think you can exclude any part of the SS.

 Regards,

 Don Guyer
 Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory 
 Messaging Services
 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
 email: dgu...@che.org
 Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For
 immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the
 helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.


 -Original Message-
 From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:52 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: excluding WDS from System State backup

 I'm using Backupexec 2012.  I'd like to exclude WDS from being backed up as
 part of the System State backups because it adds 100Gb to each nightly
 System State backup because of the images folder.  I can't seem to find a
 way to exclude JUST the WDS stuff from the System State.  It seems to be
 all or nothing.  Is this possible to do?

 Thanks


 
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Re: excluding WDS from System State backup

2012-11-26 Thread jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
Agreed, but that doesn't solve my issue since I can't seem to prevent it
from getting backed up as part of the system state.  I think I'm going to
have to schedule stopping the WDS service each night, and schedule it to
start up again sometime after the backup is done.  I've been able to verify
that, if WDS service is stopped, my system state backups go from 100GB in
size to about 13GB in size.  (which is why i just hoped there was a way to
exclude WDS from it.. but... doesnt seem likely at this point)


Original Message:
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From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:32:31 -0500
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: excluding WDS from System State backup


IMO, the WDS server doesn't change often enough to require frequent
backups.  It gets an ad hoc backup, and relatively infrequent updates, as
necessary, based on changes to the image library.


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:05 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
jesse-r...@wi.rr.comwrote:

 WDS is already on a separate drive.  Yet I'm still forced to back up WDS
as
 part of the System State, best I can tell.


 Original Message:
 -
 From: Mike Hoffman m...@drumbrae.net
 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:46:34 +
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup


 That's the reason we use lots of drive letters. In the SBS world where we
 typically work we tend to put WSUS and other 'stuff' on their own drives
 for that kind of reason. Heck we even have one server with a TB USB drive
 attached which is then passed through to the Hyper-V client just for
random
 un-backed up stuff.

 How about moving WDS into it's own drive? You could always virtualise and
 over-provision (is that he correct word?).

 Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org]
 Sent: 26 November 2012 18:10
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup

 Don't think you can exclude any part of the SS.

 Regards,

 Don Guyer
 Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory 
 Messaging Services
 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
 email: dgu...@che.org
 Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For
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 -Original Message-
 From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:52 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: excluding WDS from System State backup

 I'm using Backupexec 2012.  I'd like to exclude WDS from being backed up
as
 part of the System State backups because it adds 100Gb to each nightly
 System State backup because of the images folder.  I can't seem to find a
 way to exclude JUST the WDS stuff from the System State.  It seems to be
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