RE: same IP printer - two different print servers
Ø Yes - I seriously had faculty and staff using dial up! Welcome to the 21st century! From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 7:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: same IP printer - two different print servers Thanks again everyone... turns out I'm going to have to set them up sooner than later after all. The former print server finally died of old age this morning. The good news though is that it also means I can finally retire the 4 external modems that provided dial up. Yes - I seriously had faculty and staff using dial up! On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rene de Haas rene.deh...@gmail.com wrote: We set up a second server with the same printernames. Then we used a vbscript in the loginscript to remap the old printers to the new ones for everyone. Then you wait a while so most people get changed automatically before retiring the old printserver. We didn't change the printernames to keep things easier for the users. Hth Rene On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Jack jsmre...@new.rr.com wrote: The only real issue I see is that your helpdesk might get some calls after the old printer server is retired. I have done this type of thing many times for our schools. Not sure how you have the students and staff access the printers, we would put shortcuts into the start menu for them to use based upon what there home school was. Then last year we setup the printer shortcut to run a VB script that got the location IP information and then based upon the the groups they were in would then bring up only the printers at the location they were at. But if they have installed the printer from the old server they just have to add the one from the new server, but still a pain for the helpdesk if the staff is at least not sent an email about the change. Jack From: David Lum mailto:david@nwea.org Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: same IP printer - two different print servers Wow you're good, I don't stop at seconds guessing myself, I sometimes make it to ace - 5 times guessing myself! From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: same IP printer - two different print servers Thanks - I needed the second opinion as I kept second guessing myself! On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote: With the exception of centralized reporting/logging, it is indeed as easy as it sound. No problem with having 2 print servers point to the same printer... We've done lots of migrations that way... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: same IP printer - two different print servers I've researched this and it appears to be okay to do, but something keeps telling me it seems too easy I'm in the process of retiring an old print server, but with most of the faculty not back yet I need to keep the printers 'live' on both servers. I'd like to set up different share names for the same printers on the new server and change the networked printers for faculty as they arrive back on campus. Anyone ever done this? Any issues? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
Re: same IP printer - two different print servers
The only real issue I see is that your helpdesk might get some calls after the old printer server is retired. I have done this type of thing many times for our schools. Not sure how you have the students and staff access the printers, we would put shortcuts into the start menu for them to use based upon what there home school was. Then last year we setup the printer shortcut to run a VB script that got the location IP information and then based upon the the groups they were in would then bring up only the printers at the location they were at. But if they have installed the printer from the old server they just have to add the one from the new server, but still a pain for the helpdesk if the staff is at least not sent an email about the change. Jack From: David Lum Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: same IP printer - two different print servers Wow you're good, I don't stop at seconds guessing myself, I sometimes make it to ace - 5 times guessing myself! From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: same IP printer - two different print servers Thanks - I needed the second opinion as I kept second guessing myself! On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote: With the exception of centralized reporting/logging, it is indeed as easy as it sound. No problem with having 2 print servers point to the same printer... We've done lots of migrations that way... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: same IP printer - two different print servers I've researched this and it appears to be okay to do, but something keeps telling me it seems too easy I'm in the process of retiring an old print server, but with most of the faculty not back yet I need to keep the printers 'live' on both servers. I'd like to set up different share names for the same printers on the new server and change the networked printers for faculty as they arrive back on campus. Anyone ever done this? Any issues? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: same IP printer - two different print servers
We set up a second server with the same printernames. Then we used a vbscript in the loginscript to remap the old printers to the new ones for everyone. Then you wait a while so most people get changed automatically before retiring the old printserver. We didn't change the printernames to keep things easier for the users. Hth Rene On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Jack jsmre...@new.rr.com wrote: ** The only real issue I see is that your helpdesk might get some calls after the old printer server is retired. I have done this type of thing many times for our schools. Not sure how you have the students and staff access the printers, we would put shortcuts into the start menu for them to use based upon what there home school was. Then last year we setup the printer shortcut to run a VB script that got the location IP information and then based upon the the groups they were in would then bring up only the printers at the location they were at. But if they have installed the printer from the old server they just have to add the one from the new server, but still a pain for the helpdesk if the staff is at least not sent an email about the change. Jack *From:* David Lum david@nwea.org *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* RE: same IP printer - two different print servers Wow you’re good, I don’t stop at seconds guessing myself, I sometimes make it to ace – 5 times guessing myself! ** ** *From:* Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:41 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: same IP printer - two different print servers ** ** Thanks - I needed the second opinion as I kept second guessing myself! On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote: With the exception of centralized reporting/logging, it is indeed as easy as it sound. No problem with having 2 print servers point to the same printer... We've done lots of migrations that way... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: same IP printer - two different print servers I've researched this and it appears to be okay to do, but something keeps telling me it seems too easy I'm in the process of retiring an old print server, but with most of the faculty not back yet I need to keep the printers 'live' on both servers. I'd like to set up different share names for the same printers on the new server and change the networked printers for faculty as they arrive back on campus. Anyone ever done this? Any issues? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read
Re: same IP printer - two different print servers
Thanks again everyone... turns out I'm going to have to set them up sooner than later after all. The former print server finally died of old age this morning. The good news though is that it also means I can finally retire the 4 external modems that provided dial up. Yes - I seriously had faculty and staff using dial up! On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rene de Haas rene.deh...@gmail.com wrote: We set up a second server with the same printernames. Then we used a vbscript in the loginscript to remap the old printers to the new ones for everyone. Then you wait a while so most people get changed automatically before retiring the old printserver. We didn't change the printernames to keep things easier for the users. Hth Rene On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Jack jsmre...@new.rr.com wrote: ** The only real issue I see is that your helpdesk might get some calls after the old printer server is retired. I have done this type of thing many times for our schools. Not sure how you have the students and staff access the printers, we would put shortcuts into the start menu for them to use based upon what there home school was. Then last year we setup the printer shortcut to run a VB script that got the location IP information and then based upon the the groups they were in would then bring up only the printers at the location they were at. But if they have installed the printer from the old server they just have to add the one from the new server, but still a pain for the helpdesk if the staff is at least not sent an email about the change. Jack *From:* David Lum david@nwea.org *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* RE: same IP printer - two different print servers Wow you’re good, I don’t stop at seconds guessing myself, I sometimes make it to ace – 5 times guessing myself! ** ** *From:* Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:41 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: same IP printer - two different print servers ** ** Thanks - I needed the second opinion as I kept second guessing myself!*** * On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote: With the exception of centralized reporting/logging, it is indeed as easy as it sound. No problem with having 2 print servers point to the same printer... We've done lots of migrations that way... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: same IP printer - two different print servers I've researched this and it appears to be okay to do, but something keeps telling me it seems too easy I'm in the process of retiring an old print server, but with most of the faculty not back yet I need to keep the printers 'live' on both servers. I'd like to set up different share names for the same printers on the new server and change the networked printers for faculty as they arrive back on campus. Anyone ever done this? Any issues? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE
RE: same IP printer - two different print servers
With the exception of centralized reporting/logging, it is indeed as easy as it sound. No problem with having 2 print servers point to the same printer... We've done lots of migrations that way... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: same IP printer - two different print servers I've researched this and it appears to be okay to do, but something keeps telling me it seems too easy I'm in the process of retiring an old print server, but with most of the faculty not back yet I need to keep the printers 'live' on both servers. I'd like to set up different share names for the same printers on the new server and change the networked printers for faculty as they arrive back on campus. Anyone ever done this? Any issues? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: same IP printer - two different print servers
Thanks - I needed the second opinion as I kept second guessing myself! On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.orgwrote: With the exception of centralized reporting/logging, it is indeed as easy as it sound. No problem with having 2 print servers point to the same printer... We've done lots of migrations that way... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: same IP printer - two different print servers I've researched this and it appears to be okay to do, but something keeps telling me it seems too easy I'm in the process of retiring an old print server, but with most of the faculty not back yet I need to keep the printers 'live' on both servers. I'd like to set up different share names for the same printers on the new server and change the networked printers for faculty as they arrive back on campus. Anyone ever done this? Any issues? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: same IP printer - two different print servers
Wow you're good, I don't stop at seconds guessing myself, I sometimes make it to ace - 5 times guessing myself! From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: same IP printer - two different print servers Thanks - I needed the second opinion as I kept second guessing myself! On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.orgmailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote: With the exception of centralized reporting/logging, it is indeed as easy as it sound. No problem with having 2 print servers point to the same printer... We've done lots of migrations that way... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.orgmailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.commailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: same IP printer - two different print servers I've researched this and it appears to be okay to do, but something keeps telling me it seems too easy I'm in the process of retiring an old print server, but with most of the faculty not back yet I need to keep the printers 'live' on both servers. I'd like to set up different share names for the same printers on the new server and change the networked printers for faculty as they arrive back on campus. Anyone ever done this? Any issues? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
